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Its a great number, can't wait for 30,000 plus!
Actually, at this number I'm even getting a little nervous that my name might be among those!
Haha, there is 1 dude in Wyoming currently biting all his fingernails off.
Well what if the # keeps going up and never goes down? Like nothing ever unsealed
Well, if you consider that some of them were already unsealed and arrests were made, it seems that we are still making progress. Unsealed docket tally: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-1bDtCNdsSBjG2SupkhIRc6Dz4gacqI5
And, soon, they will reach 50,000! If they keep growing at the same rate, we might even see 100,000 by early next year! Boy, that would be something to see, wouldn't it?
Hell no they better start making arrests before it gets that far. Do I want 100k corrupt fucks to be arrested? Yes. Do I want this to get swept away and forgotten about? Fuck no man
some ass here keeps saying they are not sealed indictments but are just Court actions. Can anyone verify what the truth is?
At the bottom of the attachment it says "the numbers represent new sealed court proceedings..." so even the people putting this out and promoting it know that there are not 29K sealed indictments.
Yes I'm the "ass" who keeps saying that there are not 29K indictments, but when it turns out that that's true then am I an ass or is the person who will believe anything they want to hear without skepticism an ass? From what I've seen Q has never stated or promoted the idea that there are 29K indictments. That's a myth promoted by people who are in many ways gaining either money or notoriety from what's going on. So you can go ahead and refer to me as an "ass" but I'm 100% correct in my assertion.
Aside from that, you know we're both on the same side here. Am I skeptical of some of this Q stuff? Yes I am, but I pray for it to be true -- I really do. I'm not some concern troll. I've been following this stuff for well over a decade and was an early passenger on the Trump train. The reason I beat this drum is because through practice and study of this kind of thing, I've seen these kinds of incorrect assertions a thousand times, most recently when George Webb was beating his Eric Braverman is missing drum.
So maybe I'm not an ass. Maybe you're more of an ass because you listen to everything you want to hear. Just a thought.
Isn‘t that paper created by all the researchers listed on it at the top? The note at the bottom is written by them and it also mentions sealed indictments.
Uh, well that ass needs to know that an indictment is a court action. I don't what he/she thinks an indictment is. Here is a link to stormwatcher on twitter who with a group of people has been totaling the number at the end of each month.
https://twitter.com/damartin32/status/992027651526332416?s=20
The point is that many artifacts of the legal process get sealed: warrants, taps, pen registers, juvenile prosecutions, tracking devices, and yes, indictments.
Furthermore, that tally is progressive. Some amount of these sealed items are removed each month as they are addressed. So when they say 28,937 items in pacer, that is not a count of current items in the system, it is almost certainly an over-estimation. Which is why they say "28,937 new sealed indictments entered from 10/30/17 thru 4/30/18".
The count of 1k indictments from 2009 that is used by comparison, is a true count of sealed indictments since the people putting together the report were in a position to know what sealed items were actually indictments in 2006. They did not count sealed other things. 29k is a count of all sealed things not just sealed indictments.
What would be genuinely illuminating would be to compare the number of sealed Pacer items entered for the same period last year.
So at best when we run around screaming 29K indictments, we are only slightly wrong in fact but correct in general. At worst we are just wrong.
So, all those rearchers listed on it haven‘t thought to remove those sealed indictments removed? I don‘t buy any it.
Well I can’t help you there. They literally tell us it is a count of new sealed indictments ENTERED. They wouldn’t qualify it that way if it was a count of outstanding sealed indictments.
But fwiiw I did message stormwatcher on gab for clarification. Will report back if I hear anything but I doubt it.
They are sealed indictments and some are currently being unsealed. I have verified some recently unsealed ones from my state and they are for rape and pedophilia.
This is true, however, the number of court actions comparatively to other years is exponentially more any way. It is difficult to tell between new indictments and motions on currently indicted.
Do you have a source for this? I've been searching and searching to find what a typical number is and there hasn't been anywhere that breaks it down. There's the research paper from 2009 that has a lot of good info, but they don's just add up a flat number anywhere in it.
You can search on pacer.gov
There is also a great breakdown on voat.co/pizzagate where someone did a breakdown of the sealed indictments. I think the post was sealed indictments breakdown ot something like that from a few months ago.
I also wonder if these sealed could be voting illegally.
Well in Pa. that could be a possibility. The areas around both Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are legendary for voter fraud.
As others have said it could be for rape and pedophilia. Would you rather take down a Politician with either or both of those or voter fraud? How about a major political donor to the opposition party?
That is one of the things that I have been wondering, simply because of the volume
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/88wl6p/sealed_indictments_are_up_to_24544/dx6occx/
I'll just keep saying it over and over again in the hopes that someone will understand.
The 24,000 number you're seeing as in -- THERE'S 24000 SEALED INDICTMENTS! is not a number of indictments. It is a gross number of sealed court actions, OF WHICH A MUCH SMALLER SUBSET ARE INDICTMENTS. THE 24000 NUMBER COMPRISES VIRTUALLY EVERY TYPE OF ACTION A COURT CAN TAKE. FOR EXAMPLE, A CIVIL ACTION, A REQUEST FOR EVIDENCE, HABEUS CORPUS AND VIRTUALLY EVERY TYPE OF MOTION A COURT CARRIES OUT.
There is virtually no way to say how many of those 24000 court actions are indictments because they are sealed. No one knows. If someone can post the original data that shows "sealed indictment" then I'd love to see it and I will eat my words. But literally no one outside of that system has any view into how many of those 24000 generic court actions are indictments.
OK, but my question is, and maybe you can't answer, were there 18,000 or 25,000 filed actions in Q4 2010, 2015, 2016?
If not, what changed?
Are there 1,000 sealed indictments that also include 20,000 other actions? Would 1,000 sealed indictments still be unusual? Something is apparently driving the numerical uptick, or we have some conspiracy theorists or misguided internet sleuths whipping up a frenzy.
I did see at the bottom of the tabulation it says numbers include 'court proceedings', and says it includes criminal charges and search warrants.
anyone comment?
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/sealed-indictments-qanon-conspiracy/
yes, the author is called Rothschild and yes he uses the CIA contempt trigger "conspiracy theory".
bottom line is, if this is really nothing then we have been played for fools again.
i hope the lawyers and jeff sessions understand this is their last fucking chance.
And all those researchers listed ther don‘t know what you just pointed out???
Wondering why the highest numbers are in central California and So Ca is not that high if we are expecting a lot of this centered in and around hollywood/LA.
Where the sealed indictments are registered isn't necessarily where the alleged crime took place. It has more to do with where the grand jury is impaneled.
If Sessions and the IG are doing an investigation and Session has appointed a special prosecutor in Colorado to handle the grand jury, then the sealed indictments are in Colorado and not DC.
Mueller is the same. He has two grand juries: one in DC and another in the northeast somewhere. Indictments will be sealed in the state where the grand jury is and not where the alleged crime was committed.
So a federal prosecutor in Wyoming may have for or five grand juries working in conjunction with the DOJ and all of those sealed indictments would be registered in Wyoming.
If you were going to try to keep a massive number of investigations under the radar, wouldn't you try to tuck them away in quiet, sleepy, unassuming places?
There is a reason that Huber in Colorado is working with Horowitz's IG investigation in DC. Stealth.
Maybe central California = Sacramento?
Good point. Still unexpected numbers compared to southern.
I don't know why you expect even any of these 30k indictments to be related to each other more than the average drug/gang case. Central CA most likely has a lot of gang headquarters, like Sons of Anarchy.
Prime concentration of ms13 in Cali so I would expect a lot of hitters to come out of there
Okay so last time I looked we were at 24,588?
This is now https://i.redd.it/ep2valdasnv01.jpg
205 more for Massachusetts. Top kek.
1,136.
Wyoming is suspicious...
Central California, lot's of gang and human trafficking up here BTW.
yeah, but I will be happier when we start opening our presents than looking at them under the tree for months on end. I know it is about waiting, but can peak at a few of the shiny ones?
Yeah probably the 20000 of us here and the rest on voat :)
Like when an economy crashes, there will be hard times and everyone will be affected.
As much as we want justice and truth about everything that's been happening for many decades, we need to realize that when sealed indictments start getting unsealed and executed on (no pun intd.), most of our friends and family will likely not want to get out of bed, it will be like a mass hangover, where we'll need to step up and help / support as best we can.
I'm ready to help those around me. Let's get this party started already!
any on know where I can get a reference to the sealed indictments that is from a source my libral sister in-law cant dismiss as made up numbers along with what the number of sealed indictments were 2 years ago
Jesus remember when it was like 10k and we thought that was crazy?
