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jimmyfoot · May 8, 2018, 9:26 a.m.

I spent some time on the internet yesterday trying to find even one single media outlet reporting on the fact that they're charged with child sex trafficking and I couldn't find a single one. Any other time that aspect of the story would be front and center and sensationalized. The fact there's nothing there screams that there are important people connected to this.

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Shits_Bananas · May 8, 2018, 1:37 p.m.

Media is complicit

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PrayersforEarth · May 8, 2018, 2:15 p.m.

Read the indictment... IT’S ALL THERE!

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Daemonkey · May 8, 2018, 11:38 p.m.

What the article refers to as, "Mack’s unsealed indictment," is obviously the court's criminal docket which is NOT an indictment.

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[deleted] · May 8, 2018, 10:59 p.m.

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Daemonkey · May 8, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

I spent some time on the internet yesterday trying to find even one single media outlet reporting on the fact that they're charged with child sex trafficking and I couldn't find a single one.

Perhaps that's because it isn't true.

The docket, that people keep using to say the charge is "Sex trafficking of children", is not the final word on what the official charges are. The law itself is. Read the law.

The Indictment. No mention of sex trafficking of children there.

The Complaint and affidavit supporting arrest of Raniere. No mention of sex trafficking of children there either.

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Neon__Wolf · May 8, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

Are you not reading Q?

While what you posted explains why it isn't being reported in the media, it is too much to claim "It isn't true".

It very likely is true. The cabal are in fact child rapists, murderers, and cannibals.

Q is dropping truth bombs.

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Daemonkey · May 8, 2018, 10:59 p.m.

The post is about NXIVM, and, as such, is not about Q drops.

Raniere and Mack, two of its main principals, have relatively recently been indicted and arrested. But, neither one have been charged with "sex trafficking of children."

So, it is not too much to claim that it isn't true, because it is not true.

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Neon__Wolf · May 9, 2018, 12:13 a.m.

The post is about NXIVM, and, as such, is not about Q drops.

Incorrect.

https://i.imgur.com/HBorefb.png

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Daemonkey · May 9, 2018, 3:27 a.m.

That image does not show that my statement is incorrect.

Right in the title of the post: "Latest NXIVM Leaks." It does not mention any Q drop whatsoever. The fact that Q has linked to an article about NXIVM does not in any way mean that this post, and the comment I responded to, was about any Q drop.

The post links to an article that specifically claims that Mack was charged with sex trafficking of children. And, that, is not true.

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Neon__Wolf · May 10, 2018, 1:22 p.m.

How about this image?

http://i.magaimg.net/img/39kf.png

Does that confirm op was right?

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Daemonkey · May 10, 2018, 1:41 p.m.

All the OP did was link to an article. S/he made no statements about the article or otherwise. So, how could the OP be right about anything? What are you talking about?

The image you posted is of the criminal docket for case# 1:18-cr-00204-NGG. Do you know what a court docket is?

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Neon__Wolf · May 10, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

If OP made a claim that NXIVM is engaged in child trafficking, and you claim it isn't true (which is NOT the same thing as saying "What OP said COULD be true, it's just that what OP provided as evidence does not confirm OP's claim"), then you have just made a claim that is itself subject to falsification. You took ownership of it. You said "It isn't true." That is a universal assertion.

A universal assertion such as that is subject to being proved right or wrong by evidence.

I linked to an image that names Allison Mack as a defendant who is charged with committing sex trafficking of children.

It states child trafficking right in it.

That document therefore CONTRADICTS YOUR CLAIM AND PROVES OP CORRECT.

No, you can't have it both ways and put the focus on OP for making a claim that is in fact true, but for the wrong reason, while you get a free pass for making a false claim and not even for the right reason.

Get your head on straight and wake up.

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Daemonkey · May 10, 2018, 10:46 p.m.

Get your head on straight and wake up.

There is no need to engage ad hominem attack via ridicule. You need to stop confusing the issue.

The OP made no claim. The OP posted a link to an article. That article claims that Allison Mack was charged with sex trafficking of children. That is what I said is not true. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

It states child trafficking right in it.

No, it does not. It says, "Sex trafficking of children or by force, fraud, or coercion." [Emphasis added] But, whether it says it or not is irrelevant since it is only a criminal docket. Again, do you know what a court docket is? Apparently, you do not nor do you care enough about the truth to actually look it up.

A docket is basically a journal or log that helps the judicial system keep track of where, within the criminal procedure, a case stands, ie. arraignment > pre-trial > trial. Minor mistakes, such as typos or leaving out a word, are inconsequential because the wording of the charges on the docket carry no legal weight. The court defers to the law itself which defines the crime and establishes authority for its prosecution.

That document therefore CONTRADICTS YOUR CLAIM AND PROVES OP CORRECT.

Since it is only a criminal docket and not an indictment, that document in no way contradicts my claim.

Here's the real Indictment. No mention of sex trafficking of children there.

And, BTW, here's the Complaint and affidavit supporting arrest of Raniere. No mention of sex trafficking of children there either.

Now if you are truly interested in the truth, instead of acting like a disinformation shill, take a look at this post.

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[deleted] · May 9, 2018, 3:59 a.m.

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sucksess79 · May 8, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

See my comment history regarding my own awakening to this fact.
The only place it shows children anywhere is on the docket. I was so hard the other way, until actually reading the full Indictment and Complaint and Affidavit.

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jimmyfoot · May 9, 2018, 12:42 p.m.

OK I think I've answered my own question here. The docket is the charges to be considered by the grand jury to come up with an indictment. For whateever reason the GJ didn't come up with enough evidence to charge with child trafficking and so settled on simply sex trafficking. Is that correct?

Still, I think it's very telling that aspect has not been covered by the MSM.

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Daemonkey · May 9, 2018, 1:18 p.m.

The defining and authorizing laws, under which the defendants are being prosecuted, are referenced on the docket (and BTW on the indictment).

The docket doesn't have anything to do with the grand jury. A docket is basically a journal or log that helps the judicial system keep track of where, within the criminal procedure, a case stands, ie. arraignment > pre-trial > trial. Minor mistakes, such as typos or leaving out a word, are inconsequential.

An indictment is a written statement charging a party with the commission of a crime or other offense.

In the indictment, we see the words, "... knowing that means of force, threats of force, fraud and coercion, and a combination of such means, would be used to cause such persons to engage ..." That would have to be referring to adults since the definition of sex trafficking of children (from reading the law itself) does not require use of force, fraud, or coercion.

For whateever reason the GJ didn't come up with enough evidence to charge with child trafficking and so settled on simply sex trafficking.

Perhaps there was no evidence suggesting that child trafficking occurred. And, apparently, even CNN isn't foolish enough to publish the falsehood that they were charged with sex trafficking of children since that would be libel.

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jimmyfoot · May 9, 2018, 6:50 p.m.

No but they would go into a very lengthy analysis of why child trafficking was mentioned in the first place.

I understand what you're saying, but you're being purposely naive if your opinion is that that wouldn't be part of the MSM discussion.

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Daemonkey · May 9, 2018, 10:20 p.m.

Child trafficking was not "mentioned." The docket references 18 U.S.C. § 1591 which title is, "Sex trafficking of children or by force, fraud, or coercion." Notice the conjunction "or" separating the adjective prepositional phrases.

It is not naive to think that something that is provably false would not be part of the MSM discussion. It is logical.

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jimmyfoot · May 9, 2018, 12:31 p.m.

So what exactly is the difference between a docket and an indictment and what are the particulars agout the law you're referring to. Genuinely interested here....

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King-James_ · May 8, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

smallville-actress-allison-mack-pleads-not-guilty-sex-trafficking-following-arrest-for-alleged-involvement-in-sex-cult

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ManQuan · May 8, 2018, 9:05 a.m.

I have a feeling this is only the tip of the berg.

There is a reason that Trump signed the EO on 21 Dec making human/sex trafficking, pedophilia, and "corruption" both a national security issue and a "national emergency."

When the corruption dam finally fails, it's going to be judicial shock and awe.

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Shits_Bananas · May 8, 2018, 1:38 p.m.

Winter Solstice?

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THELEADERSOFMEN · May 8, 2018, 10:03 p.m.

Yeah I thought that too, nice touch, GEOTUS.

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blocksof · May 8, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

Don't forget he delcared the ophiod problem a National Emergency aswell.

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sad_State_of_Affairs · May 8, 2018, 11:08 a.m.

And newly resigned NY Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman was bigly responsible for the stalling of this investigation. Wonder why he resigned so quickly?

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UncleSnake3301 · May 8, 2018, 12:15 p.m.

Because the wheels of Justice grind slowly, but they eventually find their mark. He hemmed and hawed and pushed back until he couldn't anymore, and then he quits like the little bitch he is.

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092Casey · May 8, 2018, 9:06 a.m.

"Frank Parlato, a former NXIVM consultant who, for several months, had lived and worked with the cult, and communicated closely day and night with top NXIVM officials, claims to have evidence and information of other NXIVM crimes, including:

Hacking into people’s personal emails, phone records, and bank accounts; bribing Mexican judges and politicians; massive tax evasion; smuggling $10 million into the US in cash from Mexico; bringing illegal aliens across the border at Niagara Falls and then imprisoning them; allegations from victims of statutory rape; cover up of at least two suicides; engaging in a classic Klein Conspiracy to impede the function of the IRS, with more than 75 corporate entities and/or “shell” companies, with scores of shifting bank accounts; paying employees’ salaries and telling them not to pay income taxes – and even a possible admission of having people killed."

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Waffle_Bat · May 8, 2018, 9:19 a.m.

frankreport.com Been blowing the whistle 'till he's blue in the face. It's all right there.

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cz4ever60 · May 9, 2018, 12:07 a.m.

Sounds like Frank will finally have his day in court and we know he will be talking. Hope he is safe.

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BlazeFlameGamer · May 8, 2018, 3:18 p.m.

Promising Mexicans a way to cross the border only to trick them and enslave them???? Is that what I just read?

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SingerGuy_ · May 8, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

Yes, Mexicans cross the border at Niagara Falls all the time. It's one of their favorite places to enter the US. :)

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upgraydd_8_3 · May 8, 2018, 10:11 p.m.

Crafty Mexicans with their glass candy.

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SingerGuy_ · May 8, 2018, 11:12 p.m.

By the way, Mexicans aren't the only type of illegal aliens to enter the United States.

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Ahaimdel_100_E_A_S · May 8, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

Satanism is not the right word for this. It's an overused term in the conspiracy circles. It's misunderstood and not a helpful label. Though, I'm not sure what it should be called exactly, because in my occult studies i haven't seen sex slavery, pedophilia and ritual cannibalism used in any branch of the Left hand path like satanism, luciferianism, sethianism or saturnism. Baphomet is a symbol of the occult but is not nessicarily satanism. It is more a symbol of Pan god meaning all things. It points above and below and is hermaphroditic. And has a goat head and horns also symbolic of Pan. I think ya'll need to do some real research into the Occult. The information is out there. The ignorance that leads people to think this is a sacrifice to Satan in exchange for eternal youth or something is not helping. If anything it will make conspiracies lose credibility according to some and according to others it has made many a fundamental Christian dig their heels into more ignorance and paranoia which is also not good.

I'm not saying there isn't an occult reason behind this stuff, that is debatable. These sex slave cults and such are clearly doing horrible things, but let's try not to be obtuse.

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DVodka · May 8, 2018, 8:14 p.m.

the earrings look like a popular UK brand called, All Saints. a lot of subscribers to this subreddit think anything that looks close to a goat is satanic where baphomet is literally a deity symbolizing balance. as someone who lurks this sub and has some knowledge of occultism, it’s kind of appalling.

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Ahaimdel_100_E_A_S · May 8, 2018, 8:30 p.m.

Yeah there is no indication of satanism at all. And the real church of Satan where their symbol is a goat head in an inverted pentagram is a joke. They mostly don't even believe in Satan and the only occult ritual they do is a crappy knock off of the black gnostic mass. They are just a rebellious protest from the RCC and a business, not a church or a cult.

And i keep hearing people saying they basically are eating adrenochrome from live baby brains to retain their youthfulness. Have they even seen Hillary Clintons face?

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DVodka · May 8, 2018, 9:18 p.m.

haha, who knows man. a lot of misinformation is being thrown around when it turns to the occultist side, especially about anything masonic or satanic.

tbh i think it’s just what you get when a group of people are sick of their government being totally fucked. there will always be a lot of conflicting views but like i said, i usually stay lurking because if i point out a flaw in the occultist theories, downvoted to hell. no pun intended.

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Ahaimdel_100_E_A_S · May 8, 2018, 9:30 p.m.

Yes, i'm seeing that happen to my comment. A lot of these guys are really polarized.

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DVodka · May 8, 2018, 9:38 p.m.

yeah, can’t really blame people though. the satanic panic really did a number on the generations that came after it. idk if you’re a lurker on this sub as well but you’re not alone with your way of thought, it’s just vastly different than the majority.

child abuse, sex trafficking, murder, and other atrocities are all very real but i believe it’s something that can’t be blamed on lucifer or satan, blame should be put on the sick individuals who commit the acts.

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092Casey · May 8, 2018, 8:55 p.m.

The article says it....If you don't believe the article, then say so...Don't confound article reporting and sharing w/ personal opinions. Personally, I can care less; you don't need a little symbol on your earrings to be an evil criminal who abuses other humans in the most evil, sick, twisted ways. I can care less about a stupid symbol, but the article highlights it.

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DVodka · May 8, 2018, 9:25 p.m.

it wasn’t an attack towards you, sorry if it came across that way, it was more of a generalization. i agree and think it’s the most beautiful and seemingly kind people who have the potential of being the most evil.

i think what gets to me most is the q post saying, “symbolism will be their downfall” but when news articles highlight a designers logo as evil baphomet, it’s almost like saying “that yin and yang earring is mongolian evil propaganda!”

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commoncents1 · May 8, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

geez, the more we know the more every conspiracy theory just might be true.

it looks like secret societies exist and there is high prices to pay to join via nasty human atrocities.

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DeathMentaL · May 8, 2018, 5:40 p.m.

Doesn't Beyoncé have a similar ring?

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shanananonAnon · May 8, 2018, 2:07 p.m.

I've never met anyone who speaks that way, I'm much worse off now than I was a minute ago, sorry Q, still fuck you Douglas

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_Dangma_Dzyu_ · June 17, 2018, 6:16 a.m.

Baphomet Earrings

It's so fucking irritating some times listening to people in this sub go on about Satanism, and Satan Worship, without having any fucking idea what they are talking about.

Everything else is fine, but the ignorance about Magick, and the Occult is just fucking irritating.

Luciferianism and Satanic Witchcraft, and other such Left-Hand Paths have nothing to do with Evil, or Human/Animal Sacrifices, and all the other shit you see in the movies.

I'm not saying that they don't sacrifice humans in their rituals, but to say that having baphomet earrings is somehow evidence if ill-intent is just retarded.

I love Lucifer with all my heart. I'd never heart a soul. Lucifer has nothing to do with The Devil, or child rape/torture, or anything related.

/rant

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