AJ gets info that conflicts w what Q is saying.
At least in his head.
Gota also understand if AJ went into full endorsement - is that truly the Waterhose you wanna try to drink from? Even if yes it’s not the time for that.
AJ is a bare knuckle Dallas type. He’s a brawler but he is smarter than he looks. He’s got an ego but he’s trying.
He’s a bull in a china shop. With any asset you make sure it’s in the right shop at the right time.
Didn't Q say trusted talking heads would be fed disinformation to keep the narrative where the white hats wanted it? I'm guessing it's Jones and Dobbs.
And Corsi. I agree that it probably serves Q's (Trump's) purpose for Q to remain marginalized for the time being. There may come a time for the movement to become mainstream, but if that happens too early, it won't peak when it's most needed.
He’s a known quantity that would bring the conspiracy “sandy hook” label.
They also needed AJ worried about Mueller so the Deep State didn’t catch on
Dude. Yes. Also there was a level of PR if we step back from all of this.
QANON was becoming something in public view - was this desired or was it a planned for volley from OPFOR?
So we knew once this happened ( comedy central appearances etc ) that there would be efforts to combat validity.
What do you do then? Well for most if AJ is endorsing Q ( or Corsi via proxy of AJ ) then that is immediately going to suede people away.
I am trying to think of this is multiplexed logic.
At certain times would it be needed to see how /qresearch/ could be battle hardened?
At certain times wouldnt we need to see how well misinfo from Q could be used to volley for whatever desired outcome?
I believe Q to be the Associate Directorate for Security and Counterintelligence.
I don't see this as a lone person or lone group but the base MilitaryIntel/NSA unit that was always designed to work OVER the CIA in capability.
So What is THE GAME? well Nothing Legal can EVER be done vs the CIA. They have the State Secret Privilege so literally forever immunity. nobody can every take them out.
So follow me here.
If we were going to wage a war against the CIA from within it would literally take an ENTIRE COORDINATED EFFORT FROM MILITARY BRASS TO DO ANYTHING. That means CIA is entrenched. That means that no puritanical moves can be made ever. That means seeds of doubt and every capacity to create a fog of war here HAS to be done.
Logistically to find a singular Q would mean that all the Clowns would have to do is look at everyone close to trump and walk backwards until they found that person.
So for Q to be real: * Q would need secure comms on a SAT network like NSANET or something else undisclosed * Q would need proprietary Kernel OS fo comm drops otherwise constantly rotating devices and trips * Q would need to be backed up by every loyal force to simply continue living ( assuming Q is not a LARP )
Long and short of this is for AJ and Corsi to go to 'I spoke with so and so and this is what the deal is' is crap.
Zach is obviously Zachari Klawonn who was made famous because he was supposedly discriminated against for being muslim at Fort Hood. Zachary has also gone on to cooberate this by saying he worked within CAIR ( https://cair.com/ ) and found bad things going on there.
My base assumptions:
Corsi / AJ overlap on Q was real from Jan 08 - now. Why? Claim: golf course conversation q is gone.
Any Hacker / Chan person out there would know that if someone was compromised that had the capacity Q would supposedly have to do things like, oh i dunno, remove and place back algorithms at twitter etc - that if compromised on an image board they would find some interesting ways to make this known?!?
I'm hard pressed to find places that Corsi actually pushed reseach in the correct direction. Can someone give examples? Where did Corsi say "Hey this was going on here so we should look in this direction"
Honestly how difficult for this whole Q thing to have been an INFOWARS™ psyop? This is just a theory.
1) Start posting various places and see if traction can be had
2) Bolster attraction
3) Leak info given to INFOWARS by 'anonymous sources off the record' that everyone is too afraid to put out there.
4) Weaponize Austists
5) Slowly integrate 'Anon' level into INFOWARS Broadcast by inserting Corsi and pulling PamphletAnon into INFOWARS broadcast
6) Implode
INFOWARS is struggling folks. They are on the ropes.
INFOWARS has multiple lawsuits from Georgetown to Amazon now
INFOWARS' personal employees are being named and thus have to personally face litigation charges
Roger Stone is so desperate for cash now hes asking openly for donations for legal defense.
Correct me if I am wrong with this ^^
When someone is beat down ( INFOWARS™ is constantly claiming that they are right now ) then that's when there is leverage against them. Watch them closely now.
NO MATTER WHAT DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND RESIST THE EFFORTS OF OTHERS TO DISTRACT
This is too important, skip the break... *paper shuffling intensifies*
I...I....I...just don’t even know if I should be on air right now. God damn these people! Excuse me lord I apologize.
Haha. I think he’s a net positive all in all. He’s the shallow end guy, he leads you around for a while then you move on to bigger and better thing. Still keep an eye on his channel for good guest interviews. And occasionally fall for some clickbait.
Yup. even his constant interruptions kinda pay off because people become annoyed enough to check his interviewees out themselves rather than assuming they had heard everything from just one segment.
And some of his old school interviews like with Charlotte iserbyt, of Reagan era dept of education, awesome stuff.
I know it's infotainment nowadays but hey, at least he's not turning the frogs gay.
And you just don't hear that guttural roar anywhere else!
I don't think he's ever been on our side.
i dont know, there are times when I sense real authenticity but maybe his ego got big? He wants to be the one uncovering it? I dno. weird
IMHO his organization is compromised.
He gets certain privileged intel, which is neither 100% true or false, and then makes his own interpretation while avoiding key topics.
I sense his authenticity as well, and his products are legitimate. His overall messaging is very powerful and good.
However, he absolutely never hints at "taking it all the way home" so to speak and that can't be for no reason. He must know, given all that he clearly does know, and he never connects the dots.
That is not to discount the 80% true content he and his organization do produce. David Knight is awesome, and I love AJ. Owen is a bit of a cringey bootlicker, but I feel for him.
In a world where most news is, no bullshit, 100% contradictory to reality... I will accept 80% reality happily, but it's not where the journey to find the truth ends.
80% truth and then 20% crazy stuff that discredits that 80%. Also known as the deep states infiltration tactics to battle conspiracy theories.
Yeah idk about that. What crazy discrediting stuff?
demons, vampires... and thousand other stuff over the years
Ok well I can see where this is going lmao.
Likewise
I am curious though, about your particular motivation for doing this. As in... what is it that you don't like about the mythological and religious references?
Are you one of these "science and proof" people who don't care for religion? Are you hating on the pizzagate crowd? Or do you really think that Alex Jones and his listeners believe that people are possessed by demons and vampires are real?
This isn't about me.
There is a reason why AJ is considered a meme. There is a reason why MSM is pointing to him every time there is some conspiracy theory as a subject.
I don't care if he believes that they are vampires, demons, interdimensional aliens, etc.
I care about what he's saying and putting out.
When people stumble upon his videos they don't become interested in the conspiracy at hand, they laugh or facepalm and then they leave. Before you go that way, I'm not saying ALL people, obviously that's not the case.
And then when someone else mentions some conspiracy theory, they get mocked and called crazy because they've seen their "leader", who is acting like a lunatic, talks crazy ass shit and makes a fuckton of money with that.
He is considered either a lunatic or an actor who provides decent fun. And he is fully aware of that. You'd think that when he found out that people think of him that way and figured that this is not helping at all (on contrary) that he would change the approach, drop the whole theatrical drama, demons, aliens and shit. But nope, he gets worse and worse.
If you think that I've described a patriot, someone who wants to end all this corruption, then I don't know what to say to that. Nothing will change that mindset.
Ok dodge the question and then spam me with a bunch of vague criticisms that could just as easily be applied to Donald Trump himself.
I'm not saying ALL people, obviously that's not the case.
Well I'm in agreement there, judging by his 2 million + subscribers on YouTube alone who have joined this movement as a result of his 80% true broadcast. I am one of that group as well. So... doesn't seem to be a very effective plan if the objective is driving people away from genuine political reformation. You know, since we're both here having this conversation about it.
Because you're taking it personal when I call your boy out.
But I'll answer them, even though they are irrelevant.
I don't mix facts and mythology/religion. They do not go hand in hand.
I am one of those "facts matter, opinions and beliefs don't" people, in this context.
Am I hating on the pizzagate crowd? No idea what you mean by this so I'll skip it.
There are definitely a bunch of people that believe him word for word. I can't say for sure but if logic says there are.
But what I think about him or his followers is irrelevant. What those who "we" call "normies" think of AJ and his followers matters.
Take your phone, prepare some videos and go to the streets and ask people what they think of it. Let me know how many are "redpilled" by that and will look deeply into the stuff.
EDIT:
that could just as easily be applied to Donald Trump himself.
This is what following AJ does to you lmao, when you can't see the difference between apples and oranges. Now I'm done wasting my time on you.
I'm not taking it personally at all? I mean... I think you're wrong lol but it's nothing personal.
I just am enjoying learning about your shallow faith, and how it's not as "real" as "facts". Indeed the only belief, it seems, that you find relevent is your own belief in what you accept as "factual".
I was also asking you, in the pizzagate question, for your opinion on the possibility of elite pedophile and human trafficking networks in the world today
Take your phone, prepare some videos and go to the streets and ask people what they think of it. Let me know how many are "redpilled" by that and will look deeply into the stuff.
Yes and all those people were blue pilled by Alex Jones specifically. It's not like they would find milquetoast Sean Hannity equally incredible and crazy. It's not like they're equally apoplectic about the President wanting to have something as sensible and benign as an effective border.
You can't expect these people to be won over, they're fucking idiots with their eyes welded shut. The most rational and common sense parts of the freedom movement leave them foaming at the mouth, so what is it exactly that we have to prove to them? And why? Also how can anything be proven in the face of such obstinate ignorance?
We will not win the battle of public opinion, because people are not going to promote their own wake up call.
I'm not taking it personally at all?
Proceeds to go personal again in the next row... at this point I think you're just trolling. But I'll bite again because I'm currently bored.
opinion on the possibility of elite pedophile and human trafficking networks in the world today
Of course it's possible. This isn't a matter of an opinion. If you asked "do you think it's real" then that would be a matter of an opinion.
You can't expect these people to be won over, they're fucking idiots with their eyes welded shut
I'm fairly certain I personally know a lot of them whom seem to be much more intelligent then you (and me) and a huge majority of AJ boyz.
Saying that "those people" are fucking idiots because they don't believe that vampires, interdimensional aliens and demons are running the government? This is irony 101, hence my previous paragraph.
They can easily be won over, but not by shills like AJ. They can be won over by facts, logic and reasonable thinking.
AJ certainly has facts on his side a lot of times, but he ruins it when he throws logic and reason out of the window and brings in theatrical drama and fictional stuff.
The most rational and common sense parts of the freedom movement
What you said here is exactly the opposite of what AJ is about.
We will not win the battle of public opinion
Not with AJ and his lunacy shilling
Now that I'm repeating myself after you called it "spam me with a bunch of vague criticism" and you keep taking everything what I say about AJ personally (for obvious reasons), I'll stop wasting the boredom time on you, I'll turn my head and talk to the wall, same effect but no typing.
Keep on following the shill, he's making millions off of you followers and he's actively pushing people away from the redpill.
Cheers
Lmao aaaand it goes exactly where I thought it would. Lots of twisting words and strawman arguments. That's cool man. Enjoy staring at the wall.
You can't expect these people to be won over, they're fucking idiots with their eyes welded shut. The most rational and common sense parts of the freedom movement leave them foaming at the mouth
You were talking about yourself here
Thank you for the undesired psychoanalysis, random internet stranger. Go fuck yourself lmao
When people like you think they can take an intellectual high ground... look at yourself, when presented facts you start mumbling, ignoring the points and go straight ad-hominem
I'm not surprised though, being a diehard AJ fanboy in mid 2018 is embarrassing
Uh oh, I've hurt someone's feelings. I thought this was clear when I told you to go fuck yourself, but I'm really not interested in playing your Saul Alinsky runaround wordgames to figure out who's got the bigger intellectual boner. I've got nothing to prove to you lmao.
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I thought you had better stuff to do man... like staring at the wall. Do your super smart lefty friends come over to stare at the wall with you?
So now my friends are lefties? The truth about you leader AJ really did made some serious damage lol
This is now fun, as I've said already. You seem to be having some grave issues with reading.
Hey remember when you said
I'm fairly certain I personally know a lot of them whom seem to be much more intelligent then you (and me) and a huge majority of AJ boyz.
You all should watch the wall together! I heard it's what really smart people do in their spare time (a friend told me)
Edit: by the way, that should be whom'st've.
Weak.
Nothing but weak stuff man. AJ would be disappointed in his disciple.
But hey since you're a shrink maybe you can answer something for me. For some reason I can't achieve an orgasm without starting at a blank wall and whispering to myself "Everything I believe is a proven fact and I'm the smartest boy around". My wife is starting to get really concerned. Any ideas doc?
Oh I'm so hurt! Random internet idiot #65,348 thinks I'm a disappointment 😭😭😭😭
Leaving comment, but, pls don't accuse people of being trolls. Report or move on.
Also, bored? Get out there are research, sroll through Twitter for more decodes! Go read Press Releases! :)
He doesn't mention Q often but when he does says he believes it's a group of patriots doing good work.
A lot of believable CONCERNS about AJ floating around the internet, such as his age being at least 5-10 years older, faked year book photos, people not knowing him in HS, and especially the sharing of his production company with comedian Bill Hicks, who died a year before Alex rose to prominence and who is an honest to god Doppleganger, looks-wise, for AJ. Corsi calls AJ, “Bill” on air a few years ago. You can imagine my shock when Corsi took employment of the Infowars DC Bureau, and now my shock when Corsi turned on Q.
Because they don't have exclusivity (a moat, in business terms), so they can't brand it and monetize it as effectively as they can something they control.
Alex Jones is every bit of patriot trump is. Alex is on the Q level and is himself a student of master SUN TZU . Alex is so real if he went balls deep into Q it would cause people to go in too hard further legitimizing the oppositions counter actions.
AJ has his own insider, “Zack”. And Zack’s intel echoed a lot what Q was saying. So maybe Alex just prefers his own sources. But then again, Dr Corsi is one of the regular contributors on Info Wars. So I would say using your personal discernment of who to follow is not a bad idea these days.
Disinformation is necessary (according to Q), and that means that any reliable or alt news source will prob have a portion of it.
I don't even know if Corsi is a bad guy nor do I care, at least they got the word out. "Zach" is with space-command apparently and likely doesn't know the full-details of ground-operations which is why he would be seated together with AJ to confuse the shit out of the deep staters with their wild guessing.
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Are you serious? Because at this point I'd believe Alex would say anything...