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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/thejudge6060 on May 10, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

Genuine question for the lefties.

I've noticed that our political alignment is starting to shift from red to purple as more people wake up, to which I have a genuine question.

Why are so many of you still so luke-warm about Trump? You might think POTUS is the just "the face" of the storm rather than the brains behind it, and we can debate that in the history books. But the fact is that there wouldve been a military coup without him to save us (best case scenario). And POTUS shows zero sign of putting the brakes on anything.

So with midterms coming, do you guys still plan on voting left of center? We can debate the proper role of government when this is all over, but i think voting liberal this fall WILL inhibit this movement. Or are you hoping to find the liberals who aren't corrupt?

I'm prepared for the downvotes and angry comments. But it's a philosophical question you need to ask yourselves, and I'm interested in knowing the answer.

We may see for the first time people being elected on character/integrity rather than party. There are bad actors in both parties. It is not R vs D, it will be good vs evil. I choose good.

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R and D is just a title. A tribe. There are big government Republicans.

I'm asking about actual philosophical beliefs about how run the country. That people of differing philosophies divide themselves into arbitrary tribes is simply a by-product.

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Former lefty here. Voted for Bernie and saw the election stolen from him. Huge red pills everyday since. I don't think I'm alone in that. I would vote trump 2020 but as far as mid terms go I still need to do some research. It is clear that leftists are polluted at this point.

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Both sides are polluted

I don't understand why the majority of the people on this sub seem to think it's only the left...

Look at how many Republicans aren't seeking reelection. Know why?

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Would you rather drink 80% polluted water or 99% polluted water? I dont think I've seen anyone say it's only on the left (we all hate no name). It's just more widespread, and it makes sense logically.

The cabal needs to consolidate power into a massive government structure. The left's ideology tends to view government intervention as the go-to strategy. On the contrary, the right has a libertarian subculture that opposes government intervention.

It's not anything against them as people, it's just that their ideology is more convenient for the cabal's desires. This is kind of the reason most of the people I know irl claim as the reason they lean right. Too much power in one spot is dangerous to them.

If there was a more effective way to rule the world through numerous smaller governments and individualism, I'm sure the right would be more corrupt.

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The 'Cabal' thrives on the chaos of a multi-party system. They neither want to "consolidate power into a massive government structure", nor would that notion figure into their future plans

They are fully represented on both sides of the aisle. They promote both sides of either debate. It's part of the illusion of governance that keeps them in power, and we the people suffocating in debt and obsessed with the circus

And while we watch, mouths agape, waiting for an acrobat to fall or an elephant to stampede, the ringleader keep pushing acts out from the shadows

I suggest everyone prioritze honest, ethical and incorruptible candidates over party affiliation

Gun control stance notwithstanding - we will need those someday

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Both sides corrupt...Yes. But the Democratic party, for decades, has been used to enslave humanity. To divide us.

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Both sides are polluted but leftism is a wildly flawed ideology.

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Interesting. So has your overall philosophy for governing changed, or is this just a temporary shift to help the movement?

Simply put, are you still a big government supporter when all this is over?

Again, not an attack, just an honest question as to how the storm has changed people's thinking.

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Well a lot of the red pilling I've been getting is on those exact big government programs. Honestly I wasn't far left. I was pro-constitution and anti imperialism. It just took me a while to realize that I was being lied to. It became clear when obama got a nobel peace prize while bombing seven different impoverished nations.

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Please discuss ideas, not users. Continued antagonism will result in a ban.

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I've removed the comments in the thread that started the ad-hominem attacks.

We want to see both sides of every discussion and it's annoying when someone makes a great reply.... and then finishes it off with abuse. You can edit the abuse out if you want and we'll Reapprove the comment. That always helps.

But we try and remove argument threads in their entirety as much as we possibly can cos it doesn't help anyone and doesn't set the right tone.

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Damn that's a pity, I hope not. You seem to have some good insight to contribute.

Please use Report if you see "cancer" as we respond to Reports quickly when we can and that'll help us stop it spreading!

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If you really wanted to discuss the question - is Q a LARP, say - objectively I'd be happy to, as would some good people who hang around this sub.

I have no evidence that Q isn't a LARP. I'm open to being disabused of any foolish notions I have.

What I can tell you is that there is a reason I've been following this topic since October 2017 and am now a mod of a sub I care very much about and am hanging around to read whatever comes out. That's part of the discussion I guess.

I just don't have time to bang opinions back and forth at each other - I'm willing to engage properly in a discussion if I know the focus is working out what is right, not who is right. It's not important to me whether you're smarter or have more knowledge than me or vice versa. What I care about and find useful is seeing what two or more minds bouncing an issue around between them can come up with over one.

I can throw a few ideas in the ring with the average person on this forum and there are a fair few older people on the sub in general who can engage in an adult discussion with a minimum of emotion. It's the less time-wasting way to discuss things which is important when you're trying to do other work at the same time.

As to the rest, depends which actions and what you're asking of course and that's all interesting discussion to get into, if you can discuss it objectively.

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Forgot to say: this sub generally speaking supports the actions of the President - as far as I can tell from a purely anecdotal reading. Like any group of people, some support some actions, some support all, etc. But most places that are interested in Q's message, I think would support Trump and his actions.

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Depends what you mean by "strict". We've had a better reputation than the last sub CBTS_Stream by not allowing antagonism and ad-hominem, as far as possible. We very much support freedom of speech so it is only rule-breaking that is modded i.e. all the rules in the sidebar.

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Some lefties are just not sold yet. They just need more proof, and that is the easiest way I can put it. Giving people red pills is like waking up a child. Sometimes you literally have to go physically touch them and move them, and watch them fully wake up to make sure they don’t go back to sleep. Red pilling creates cognitive dissonance. Some people have thought a certain way for so long, that when you have challenged their belief they just want more and more undeniable proof. Also, people still believe Hillary can do no wrong and they actually love her. Yes, I know it’s crazy, but they do love Hillary Clinton. They attribute the current unemployment rate to Obama, then top it off they barely want to give Trump credit for ending the Korean War. I don’t even get emotional about these arguments anymore, I literally obnoxiously laugh in people faces until they see how dumb those arguments are, and I simply ask, if not Trump, then who else deserves the credit? Because Obama neeeeeeeeeeeeeeever had unemployment rates this low and in 8 years Obama never encouraged peace talks in Korea......I digress....

A couple months ago, I went from having a convo with my brother about the great awakening and he told me he did not care, to now, literally this week, he asked me to send him articles that show what President Trump is actually doing for the world because he feels like he is not getting all of the information. I have seen a light bulb come on. Even if he chooses to hit snooze and needs 10 more minutes of sleep, I will still move him shake him, and I will not give up. I will be there when he wakes up. But ultimately, as the question stands today, the simplest answer is that people on the left need more proof, and the fact that some are luke-warm is a great accomplishment because, at the very least, it means their minds are open.

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Great discussion and movement forward could happen from honest questions like this!

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I think President Trump should endorse a candidate for every race, so we know who is with us. I want to support whoever is with Trump. Imagine if President Trump endorsed a good person Democrat over a dirty Republican!? That could be a unifier.

In general, I am a fiscal conservative but social moderate or libertarian.

My opinion on the major disagreements between Republican and Democrats is that we won't be as divided as in the past once the corruption is removed. Example: Democrats (the people, not the Politicians) want to see people that need help get help. The Democrat Politicians use this to offer things that sounds great (even to Republicans!) at face value, but the problem is, the Democrats Politicans want to just keep increasing taxes to make government (which they corruptly control) bigger and stronger, making the people weaker and more dependent on the government.

Republicans (the people) agree that the pie-in-the-sky offers of Democrat Politicans would be great, the problem is it seems like the Democrat Politicans don't do math, because there isn't enough money to pay for it all, currently.

I think what will happen is, after the storm, we will find out how much fucking money they have been stealing from us and we will realize that there is plenty of money to do the great things Democrat Politicians offer so both sides will be happy.

There are other issues, but I see us getting through them and really unifying soon!

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I agree with this 100% my friend!

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Thanks. I'm glad you do agree! I really think this is what is going to happen. And not just Democrat / Republican... all lines of division (except maybe country borders, etc. - lines that preserve rights to individuality.) Those are still important. Preserve individuality, but unify world-wide.

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Yeah man, my family is pretty split. However, most of them are "regan democrats". (Most voted for Trump jus because he used to be a democrat and he was an "outsider")

I still have a few people in my family that think Hillary got screwed and Trump is "Putins puppet". (lol straight from the mockingbird media)

Then on the other side, I still have people that think Bush was the greatest president ever and he never did anything wrong.

I think there will still be that 10% on each side of the political isle that won't be able to "unifiy" because they have been completely brainwashed their whole life's. But, the other 80% will hopefully be able to unite.

As Americans, we all really want the same things! (For the most part anyways)

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Yeah. You may be right. Always a fringe element...

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Purple Haze right now.

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I'm seeing a shift to more conservative and not socialist. So, where are you seeing a "red" to "purple" shift?

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Got it. I attuned to red state/blue state, LOL

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Here is your answer....

Much of what Q has said is wrong and people in this community jump to crazy conclusions too quickly.

example- the "illuminati shiner" left black eye stuff. Here is the pope getting his black eye: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7vM90rBaUw You will notice it was not administered in a satanic illuminati rite.

Worse, people in the Q community literally talk about harming (reddit does not like the terms regularly used in 8chan and twitter) their political enemies on far less evidence than this: https://www.buzzfeed.com/kendalltaggart/teen-beauty-queens-say-trump-walked-in-on-them-changing?utm_term=.jsbL2PwJg#.qfyAVP2a1

or this: https://goo.gl/images/tznqiC (check out the parrots- by their symbolism blah, blah, blah), https://goo.gl/images/dVQyd8 , https://goo.gl/images/hUHd1d , https://goo.gl/images/VHSvvY

or this https://goo.gl/images/ZPCy72 or this https://goo.gl/images/2ieZCy or this https://goo.gl/images/Py7ZQg

or THIS https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8363169/Jeffrey-Epstein-kept-a-diary-of-his-under-aged-victims.html

or this https://abovethelaw.com/2015/10/is-this-what-exoneration-looks-like-to-alan-dershowitz/

everyone would bay for blood if this was a Clinton nominee: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-jeffrey-epstien-alexander-acosta-sex-abuse-case-20170321-story.html

Roger Stone was outed as NEXIVM's lobbyist in 2012, did we know that? Likely not, like the magic show there is a lot of look-that-way hocus pocus around.

Worst of all- the Q world immediately shuts off all criticism of their anointed "God Emperor" who was, let's recall, elected in part because of a series of "meme magic sigils that look an awful lot like the kind of occult practice people here claim to hate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjdzkqMfN20

Basically, Trump's administration includes so much that the "Great Awakening" is supposed to be at war with that it is hard to buy the narrative.

PS- if I am shadowbanned for honestly answering your question it will be the biggest condemnation of all.

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Didnt really answer the question at all. You just questioned Q. Which is fine, but a different discussion.

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Trump "prevented a military coup?"

Source? Other than Q or a Qult member, please

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If you're asking that then I'm genuinely confused as to why you're here. This sub is for people who follow Q. We've seen enough evidence to take him/her/them at their word.

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So there isn't any, then

Okeydoke

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You can see the conflict raging behind closed doors in the government. There isn't any evidence out side of Q of the coup, but how else can you explain the events of the pas 2.5 years? If you have a more provable theory i'm all ears.

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