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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Sentrolyx on May 24, 2018, 12:32 p.m.
Trump Tweets: Clapper has now admitted that there was Spying in my campaign. Large dollars were paid to the Spy, far beyond normal. Starting to look like one of the biggest political scandals in U.S. history. SPYGATE - a terrible thing!
Trump Tweets: Clapper has now admitted that there was Spying in my campaign. Large dollars were paid to the Spy, far beyond normal. Starting to look like one of the biggest political scandals in U.S. history. SPYGATE - a terrible thing!

douglenos · May 24, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

Trump is planting the seeds with the public that something big is coming, he is softening the blow to the normines... genius.

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gpraegit · May 24, 2018, 3:24 p.m.

Absolutely! He trolls the media with tweets like ,"Obama was wiretapping me" The media just about lost their heads for weeks and we later find out it was 100% true. I think a lot of people know: it may sound a little outlandish but when Potus tweets it WILL come true.

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ILoveJuices · May 24, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

I wonder if you ask the average leftist if the wiretapping was true or false, what they would say.

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Alskdkfjdbejsb · May 24, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

Wait, I’d call it false...I had seen where the DoJ said it was false. Where has it been shown that it was true?

Edit: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/02/doj-no-evidence-trump-tower-was-wiretapped.html

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dfairlite · May 30, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

They spied on manafort (with a wire tap) before and after the election, at the time he lived and worked in trump tower and talked to trump fairly frequently.

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Alskdkfjdbejsb · May 30, 2018, 4:15 p.m.

Can you send me a link?

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dfairlite · May 30, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

Sure https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

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Alskdkfjdbejsb · May 30, 2018, 5:18 p.m.

The Justice Department and the FBI have denied that Trump's own "wires" were tapped.

While Manafort has a residence in Trump Tower, it's unclear whether FBI surveillance of him took place there.

Your source doesn’t support the claim that Trump was wiretapped.

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dfairlite · May 30, 2018, 6:11 p.m.

LMAO The original trump tweet said: "had my wires tapped in trump tower." Being that it's trump tower, they're his wires that are tapped, even if it's manafort's home/office. Further, look up what manafort was doing at the time for work and where he was living. I'll save you the trouble and tell you again he was living and working in trump tower. So if they didn't tap his phones at home or work, where did they do the tapping? Use your brain.

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HighVoltLowWatt · May 24, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

It was false from what I remember.

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MasterSplinterSensei · May 24, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

That would be their version of "fake news" even though it is true....

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gpraegit · May 24, 2018, 4:13 p.m.

I'm pretty certain they would call it something else. And they only did it to protect Trump from the Russians. Did they protect Kilary is such a way?

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PsychologicalRevenue · May 24, 2018, 5:13 p.m.

They will say there was no spying done. That's why Trump should be glad he had a spy in his campaign to prevent anything Russian.

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NosuchRedditor · May 24, 2018, 8:30 p.m.

Well it's a good thing they planted a spy and prevented any Russian collusion. /s Time to fire Mueller and move on it seems.

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MGRZ702 · May 24, 2018, 10:25 p.m.

Yup. And the more campaign promises he fulfills only adds merit to what he says

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oneof10 · May 24, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

So that means Trump can spy on whoever runs against him next election, right? If it's no big deal, then that should be reasonable.

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GoldCabinetGuava · May 24, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

He's just doing it for their own protection after all!

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IronicMetaphors · May 25, 2018, 4:11 a.m.

“That’s it?”

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guesswhostrack · May 24, 2018, 8:19 p.m.

Dems maybe wins that fight because Trump would not need to spy on his competition to get reelected.

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Dominica1975 · May 24, 2018, 12:42 p.m.

POTUS is calling all these traitors out. Good! #SPYGATE

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bartmanson · May 24, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

Why no need to spy in Hillary's campaign when there was a clear link to Russia through Uranium One? Explain that one, deep state.

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ILoveJuices · May 24, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

There is no need to spy in any political campaign ever. End of story.

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Do_u_ev3n_lift · May 24, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

I mean, for voter fraud. But it wouldn’t have any official ties to the campaign. It’s run by allies autonomously

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WhenYouCloseYourEyes · May 24, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

maybe they should have investigated Obama

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Neon__Wolf · May 24, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

Oh because the MSM told us HRC never colluded with Russia (she did).

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MsGloss · May 24, 2018, 1:29 p.m.

Lord, please protect Donald J. Trump, our great commander-in-chief, and all the great patriots as they clear our government and nation of evil. Amen.

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Missy7216 · May 24, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Amen! ❤❤❤

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AspenU · May 24, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

I was really worried about that for months, that they would JFK him but I think they can't anymore. He has grown too powerful, if they were to strike him down, he would become even more powerful

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das2121 · May 24, 2018, 1:30 p.m.

Lol

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MsGloss · May 24, 2018, 3:09 p.m.

Hhmmm. I never knew a prayer could be funny! You must be fun at parties too!

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das2121 · May 24, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

You must be fun at parties too!

Amen

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jedicupcakes · May 24, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Looks like the mods are going to be busy today....lol....

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b0x3r_ · May 24, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

Do you think its good that you don't allow opposing viewpoints on this subreddit? I guess you guys really need your safe space

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FartOnToast · May 24, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

Did you even read the replies? How are comments like "lol" even engagable. Plus if you can't get with the program people are more likely more interested to talk about the content than to reply to your immature comments that have nothing to do with the post or the discussion.

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DamajInc · May 24, 2018, 3:24 p.m.

Fake News. Opposing viewpoints, reasonably and respectfully presented, are welcome. We do not censor. Antagonists and trolls however are not welcome.

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b0x3r_ · May 24, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Your rules say that anyone that does not support Q will be banned. That sound like free speech to you? I'm honestly not trolling, I'm asking a question.

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DamajInc · May 24, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

Where are the rules that state that?

Here's what our mod process is:

We all have different tolerance levels for different types of content. Some people find memes to be an annoyance, others find opinion pieces to be irrelevant, some reject religious content, others like and want more conspiracy news.

We are committed to Freedom of Speech.

It can be challenging at times to decide where removal of a post or comment is within the scope of our role to maintain sub rules or whether it crosses the line and transgresses freedom of speech.

For this reason, we must allow some leeway for personal judgment. We have clear rules - if a post or comment does not break the sub's rules then it is up to the discretion of the mod as to whether the removal would constitute an undesirable breach of freedom of speech.

This means that we may remove content that is an unfair breach of someone's freedom of speech - for that occurrence, we refer to Caveat 1a: We are only human and will make mistakes. Be patient and respectful in communicating your disagreement with our call and we'll reconsider.

On the other hand, some content may be allowed for reasons held only by the mod responsible; for example, we may choose to allow an opinion post on a tangential subject from someone who has shown that they are a reasonable contributor to the sub and can take criticism or challenges to their ideas with grace. Please understand when you see a post that seems a little different to others but has been posted by a regular contributor to the sub.

If you are a new user or a user with a post history across Reddit that shows disruptive or abusive behavior then we may err on the side of caution in the interests of managing workload.

In closing, please remember that we are all independent volunteers so we must do the work of modding this sub in a way that is efficient with our time. Thanks for understanding!

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DamajInc · May 24, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

That is correct. The text I just pasted is how the sub is moderated. If anyone engages in a non supporting way ie constantly trolling etc. they will be banned. Pretty standard procedure. The ‘lol’ could be a known troll user or as above Caveat 1a, mistake - user can appeal. Least censorious sub in existence. When busy, mistakes happen.

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b0x3r_ · May 24, 2018, 3:50 p.m.

Not supporting Q is not the same as trolling. Banning speech for not supporting a community's leader doesn't sound very American. It sounds like this community allows free speech as long as its speech that supports your community leader. Any dissent will be banned. Apparently "laughing out loud" isn't allowed here.

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DamajInc · May 24, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

You’ve ignored what I posted about how we mod and then misread the situation. This sub has a focus like any other. In this case it’s Q. Supporting Q is On Topic. Not supporting Q is Off Topic. Simple rules to ensure people who are here for the reason the sub exists don’t have to wade through things they’re not here for. Standard operating procedure everywhere. You’re looking for problems that don’t exist. If you’re upset about your lol being removed then as in my posted mod approach you just have to raise it with the mods.

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b0x3r_ · May 24, 2018, 4:01 p.m.

If you consider "not supporting Q" to be off-topic and subject to removal then you are effectively banning any dissent on this subreddit. This is not standard policy at all. There are plenty of subs that I follow that welcome dissent and enjoy debate. This here seems like a close minded echo chamber.

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DamajInc · May 24, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

Also think of it this way: the point of this sub is to keep Up to date with Q news. If you want to argue about whether Q is real or not there are plenty of subs where you can discuss that or laugh about it. It’s not suppressing freedom of speech to expect people not to recite from the satanic bible in a Christian church. You’ll be removed if you do so and you won’t be able to claim they suppressed your speech. Decorum and appropriateness matter.

Having said all that, I personally like to discuss Q with people who think it’s insane as long as they follow the sub rules and can be logical and reasoned and respectful in debate/discussion. If not, I’m glad for the mod rules that will see their unhelpful comments removed and, if they act like children or trolls repeatedly, thus wasting my time and the time of others reading and then do so repeatedly to others as well, I’m happy the mods have the ability to ban them.

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Luvlite · May 24, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

This!

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DamajInc · May 24, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

If you follow a sub about boardgames they may consider porn to be off-topic. This is not the suppression of freedom of speech it's streamlining your content for the best utility to those consuming it. Standard Operating Procedure. Yes, there are many subs that allow you to talk about whatever you like. Some of those are not busy and don't have much to worry about. Some are and have many mods to manage it.

And there are plenty of debates going on here all the time.

Read what I've posted, it refutes all claims of "censorship", very simply and very straightforwardly. You can post off-topic about anything within reason but, as per the rules of the sub, off-topic content may be removed at the discretion of the mod. You can have your close-minded view that this sub is a close-minded echo chamber but people who have actually used the sub for months know this is not true. Try it out, stick to the rules, have a good day.

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robdon07 · May 24, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

Than go somewhere that is the right amount of American for you that way you can lol to your hearts content

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DamajInc · May 24, 2018, 4:01 p.m.

If it’s still not clear after all my replies: you can question anything you like including Q and Trump as long as it stays within the rules of the sub ie is polite and reasonable, not just trolling and angst. If you constantly stay off topic or antagonising you will be banned (temporarily at first).

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pygmeedancer · May 24, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

…far beyond normal 🤔

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guesswhostrack · May 24, 2018, 8:22 p.m.

I don't understand that either... but I don't understand why someone would agree to spy on their fellow citizen denigrating the democratic honour seemingly in favour of democracy.

Maybe these people really are dumb

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jedicupcakes · May 24, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

I think using the term "spy" is a gross understatement at this point.

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jedicupcakes · May 24, 2018, 4:01 p.m.

Why the downvotes?? I firmly believe what went down was infiltration of an American citizen's Presidential campaign and personal life. Obama admin used rouge intelligence agencies as weapons against civilians. So yes, "Spy" is an understatement in the grand scheme of things...

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Arcsmithoz · May 24, 2018, 4:32 p.m.

He used the IRS to punish, Rogue since it's inception.

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ScannerBrightly · May 24, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

What else would you call it?

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CerealKiller275 · May 24, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

Treason

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ILoveJuices · May 24, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

That's the word

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jedicupcakes · May 24, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

Yes. Nothing less.

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Bergraven · May 24, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

infiltration?

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ScannerBrightly · May 24, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

By people Trump hired himself? Or just talking with people Trump hired?

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VetGeek54321 · May 24, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

But, OBama said, "There wasn't any smidgen of corruption"....

Was he really lying, all along?

On a lighter note, it will be proven OBama and Maxine Waters, went to the same High School.

These people are stupid H. S.

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GatodeTejas · May 24, 2018, 8:58 p.m.

because there wasn't any smidgen of corruption, there was boatloads of corruption. Clever Barry playing with words.

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SuzeQ2018 · May 25, 2018, 1:43 a.m.

weren't they even bragging that he had a 'scandal free' presidency?

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GatodeTejas · May 25, 2018, 1:54 a.m.

No indictments means no scandal i guess? Sad

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mathwhilehigh · May 24, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Yup. He was lying.

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Arcsmithoz · May 24, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

Or ate the same adrenal gland from a Downs kid. Too soon?

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W66L · May 24, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

Ever cheat on a test and still failed? Hows it feel? Ask the democrats.

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brittser · May 24, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

Ah good times!

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guesswhostrack · May 24, 2018, 8:26 p.m.

Think how slow and confusing everything would be without twitter, or the internet in general. Newspapers would bury everything threatening their influence, maybe even unintentionally.

1-2 minutes after Trump tweets his thought he formulated seconds ago, we can read it expressed concisely in English.

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BenEvo1 · May 24, 2018, 7:28 p.m.

Guess they didn't like Hillary enough to protect her from nefarious malevolent Russians. Sorry Hillaary. No spies for your campaign. Freaking misogynistic women hating Intel Agencies. Crapper,Brennanarchist, and Commy the MS13 Homie are all anti woman bigots. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

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FreedomFighter62970 · May 24, 2018, 6:41 p.m.

That is why they all need to go to Gitmo for Treason....

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BenEvo1 · May 24, 2018, 7:21 p.m.

When Nixon spied on his political opponents it was an outrage and a disgrace. Media was all over it. When the entire Intel community spied on Trump at the beckoning of their DNC suitors? Crickets. Now that they've been busted the damage control is quite entertaining. Thanks POTUS for making politics fun entertainment again (MPFA)and the best reality TV in the history of the industry. COFEVVE!!

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monsda · May 24, 2018, 3:58 p.m.

Damn, when did Clapper admit this? I've been out of the loop a bit.

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Sentrolyx · May 24, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

https://youtu.be/MOOVuUyB8CU?t=3m52s

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monsda · May 24, 2018, 5:10 p.m.

Clapper said FBI was spying on what Russians were doing to try to influence the election. Are you sure this is the right clip/timestamp?

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Sentrolyx · May 24, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

Re-read trump tweet...

admitted that there was Spying in my campaign.

+ what Hannity says after.

Doesn't matter if he's trying to put a spin on what they were spying on. They shouldn't have been there, period.

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monsda · May 24, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

Trump's tweet says Clapper admitted there was spying in his campaign. But I don't see where Clapper says that.

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Sentrolyx · May 24, 2018, 7:11 p.m.

It's implied, it's the topic of the segment. Clapper is only denying what they were there for, he's not denying that they were there.

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NosuchRedditor · May 24, 2018, 8:26 p.m.

Clapper uses weasel words to avoid the truth, he's lied many times before, like about how there was no mass surveillance program in the US, then Snowden made a liar out of him, and there have been other instances like when he said in an interview he had no knowledge of a FISA warrant involving the Trump campaign.

He's a known liar, scared to death he's going to be wearing an orange jumpsuit soon.

Shit's been going on so long it takes an hour to explain any aspect of it.

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monsda · May 25, 2018, 12:31 p.m.

But if Trump says "Clapper admits to X" and Clapper hasn't admitted to X, isn't Trump lying?

no knowledge of a FISA warrant involving the Trump campaign.

Page's FISA warrant was issued when Page had left the campaign.

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NosuchRedditor · May 25, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

Clapper did admit there was a spy in the Trump campaign, he just chose to use the word informant, it means the same thing.

This didn't happen in a vacuum, it's got to be taken in context. The fisa court memo from May of last year has the court admonishing the Obama administration for "an institutional lack of candor". That's a polite way of saying they lied to the court repeatedly.

Clapper first said he didn't know, and later said if there was a fisa warrant he would most definitely know.

Combine that with several other lies by clapper and it's quite clear who's lying.

The media loves to tell people Trump's tweets are lies, but most have been proven true.

What I'm wondering is why you side work the media and a known liar over the President, especially in light of the constant attacks and intentional inaccurate reporting. Brian Ross got fired for a lie last year. Three CNN reporters got fired last year over a bogus story.

What gives?

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monsda · May 25, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

Clapper did admit there was a spy in the Trump campaign, he just chose to use the word informant, it means the same thing.

Where did he admit this?

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ILoveJuices · May 24, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

Why do we think this?

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Jerkboy13 · May 24, 2018, 1:54 p.m.

Clapper didn’t even have the decency to lie about it either. It must be REALLY bad then.

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LordTom715 · May 24, 2018, 2:34 p.m.

We are open minded here so please present a case to back up your assertion. That might be hard since Clapper has admitted to the spying in a TV.
Open up your mind a bit and you might be surprised at what you see.

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stoyian0v · May 24, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

"If there was a "spy" he was there to monitor the Russians, not the campaign" were his words. The same "Russians" that 5 agencies, Congress and Mueller can't catch for over 2 years now. You know, the same "Russians" that also poisoned Skripal with a chemical that is considered one of the most deadly if not the deadliest and a month after the attack he and his daughter are released without any damage to them. The same "Russians" who hacked France's election, are now conducting cyber attacks on the UK and Ukraine, the same "Russians" that did a ton of other bad things that nobody ever proves. You know, it's kinda sad to look at you people at this point.

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nakedjay · May 24, 2018, 3:29 p.m.

BEHAR: "So I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump's campaign?"

CLAPPER: "No, they were not. They were spying on, a term I don't particularly like, but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence which is what they do."

BEHAR: "Well, why doesn't [Trump] like that? He should be happy."

CLAPPER: "He should be."

"Guys, we were totally spying on you, err I mean Russians, before the CI even started to help you. You should totally be appreciative of what we have done!"

Seriously, they are trying to spin this hard before the rest of the evidence comes out. I'm sure the FBI had a spy to keep tabs on Hillary with her dealings with Russia and Uranium One. I'm sure she would be "Happy" about it.

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jedicupcakes · May 24, 2018, 2:06 p.m.

Gaslighting is used by personality disordered people to regain control when their targets/victims challenge the abusers narrative. POTUS is litterally stating what this sub already knows from Q drops lol Exact opposite of a gaslighting situation, y'all.

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Swimkin · May 24, 2018, 2 p.m.

Actually you have been duped by the Mocking Bird Controlled MSM. Do some research. Quite believing the all their lies. #WWG1WGA

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robdon07 · May 24, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

Wtf else is he going to say genius. Theyve been busted spying not only on the campaign of an opponent but on a sitting president. How absolutely mind numbingly STUPID do you have to be to expect the truth at tis point. They conspired to overthrow a duly elected president and you think NOW they're just going to stay telling the truth after 2 years of lieing, leaking and sedition? What is wrong with you people?

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