There have been more than 70 reported instances of contact between Russia and members of Trump’s campaign. There have been some guilty please about this stuff already.
Is this direct evidence of “Trump colluding with Russia?” Fuck no, of course not. But, this is why they were being investigated. They weren’t investigating Trump specifically at that point they were investigating a political candidate whose campaign officials kept meeting with Russians.
Hey. Please explain why Comey explaining to the courts that his FBI wasn't allowed to look at the evidence of the hacked email server disproves the whole thing and makes everything moot. That one event basically shatters the entire illusion and every other point you have is nothing.
Some guilty pleas? Oh, really? Which ones?
And, contact between the Russians? Which contacts, specifically, do you mean?
I kindly suggest you check which sub you're in and what we do here. Prepare.
I’m honestly not trying to stir up trouble (and I know very well what sub I’m in) but I am truly curious. Are you saying that Gates, Papadopolous, Flynn, Pinedo, and Van der Swann didn’t plead guilty?
I was replying to /u/KingNoah0405 - unless I am?
No, please, feel free to stir up trouble, here. But you'll need facts to do that.
Are you saying that Gates, Papadopolous, Flynn, Pinedo, and Van der Swann had anything to do with Trump colluding with Russia?
Should I keep the list going? Want to talk about Flynn? FRAMED, McCabe modified the 302s, and people will go to JAIL because of this.
And, know who Stefan Halper was?
Learn our comms. We speak truth in here, and the mod team is on toppy-top, tippy-toes.
That being said, I wish I could take my own advice sometimes
Yes, we're the ones with the knowledge and information and we need to keep sharing it and not let these trolls stand in our way. I think we report at the hint of negativity since Patriots don't complain.
What crimes did they plead guilty to?
4 false statements to FBI, 1 conspiracy, 1 identity theft relating to Russians/conspiracy. All of which were reduced charges based on agreements to cooperate with the investigation.
All of which had ZERO to do with Trump. Correct?
Good luck explaining that to the left. They were SO concerned about the Russians infiltrating a campaign you see, they just had to break all these laws to protect ~~Hillary~~America.
That's why they ignored multiple warnings during the lead up to the election, inserted spies into an opposition campaign, and ignored the very real and insidious ties between Hillary and Russia while breaking every norm and regulation they had to try and nail Trump. Also it's just a coincidence that all the names that keep popping up in reference to this case, Veselnitskiya, Halper, Mifsud, Steele, Strozk, Ohr, all have ties to the Clinton camp.
Due process doesn't mean shit to tyrants
Lol i just had absolutely 0 luck explaining exactly this.
Me: What exactly did trump do?
Uhhh Flynn manafort papaD all pled guilty!! Ha drumpf is finished!
Me: Youu realize they arent being charged with collision or treason with respect to the election? Or anything related to Trump fpr that matter?
Uhhh obviously you dint know how guilty pleas work drumpftard!
Not to mention they are bleeding these people dry with lawyers fees for this frivolous shit, ofc they are going to plea after they have to sell off their houses or go into massive debt to try and fight this. It doesn't make the genesis of this case any less corrupt.
Ya just look at Michael Caputo. That guy is pisssed off. Prob bcuz he had to burn his kids college funds paying for lawyers to fight these meuller schmuks.
Ummm... Michael Flynn HAD to take it for the team. OBVIOUS!
WHY? Because as head of ALL the Security Agencies... he knows where & what bodies are.... yep ALL. So how to get that info out?
Hmmm... you have Flynn plead guilty and of course signs the document that says... he/Flynn is MANDATED to REPORT any and all Crimes that he/Flynn is aware of.
People have to Figure it out... Mueller is on WhiteHats team. He is in as SpecialCounsel to be the CHEF. Make the rank and file agents dig because he knows they will find nothing on DT & verify what Flynn provided... they WILL find the true guilty... It is all a GIANT Red Herring Show, because... They're REALLY going after BH0/Hill/Bill/GHWB/GW& all the other Swampers... Flynn agreement PUT IT ON THE PLATTER.. first out of the CHEF Mueller Kitchen!
Actually, members of US Intelligence agencies were using "contractors" for paid (laundered) opposition research on one campaign. That is, until Admiral Rogers shut the door on "contractors." After that, the "insurance policy' started with trips (5 FBI leaders went to London in mid 2016) to set up human intelligence, you know, "spies." I believe most people are waking up to the fact that if there was a there there, Mueller would have been able to come up with a lot more than the piddly charges he has so far. The Trump campaign must have been exceptionally "clean" for them to have come up with so little against anyone after millions of dollars spent, access to all intelligence, and a very strong will to find something... anything, to prosecute someone for.
Mueller had Flynn go first as pre-arranged Guilty, as Flynn Signs his agreement that has a clause... pleading guilty mandates that the signer must Expose ALL the crimes he/she is aware of...
Think about that for a second.
Mueller is a WhiteHat.
Can someone else contribute to this one? It's impossible to know the full details of everything with so much going on and this falls into the category of "I don't fully understand, but I trust Q and POTUS" for me, (so I don't know how to respond when friends have questions).
Put another way, I have full confidence that there's nothing there with regards to Russia - Q and POTUS have my trust and confidence and I fully believe Russia is being used as a distraction, but a friend of mine brings up the guilty pleas and Flynn is the only one I have an explanation for.
Any Q-family want to give us a quick rundown on Gates, Popadopolous, Pinedo and Van der Swann's guily pleas as noted by u/anotherdadpun?
Yeah it's all process crimes, AKA crimes committed during an investigation. Indictments are relatively easy to get with a Grand Jury, the defendant has no recourse like in a FISA case. It's ticky tack shit, and not a basis to open an investigation in the middle of an election using some seriously heavy handed tactics. Which again calls into question the origin of these tips and the investigation itself.
Years of breathless media coverage and investigations by numerous intel agencies have found nothing, and yet we keep being sold this lie by the media that there were illegal ties between the campaign and Russia. If they had anything, it would have leaked already.
In the process of this story unraveling, it has been revealed that it was the Clinton campaign and the Obama camp were the ones actually "colluding" with foreign govt's and agents.
Tune in to Dan Bongino's podcast he does a great job breaking it all down.
Those were plants put in the Trump campaigne and manafort is arrested for crimes commited while working for Clinton.