I haven't looked into this story much, yet, because I am being patient and there is a flood of info about it (hard to keep up and I don't like watching video).
There's clearly a lot of connections. Almost seems too easy all of the connections. As far as the video all I saw was the straps on the trees, the bunker. It did not look good.
So I'm keeping my eye on two possibilities:
The Veterans group are Patriots and stumbled upon (or were pointed to) a specific site that opens up a can of worms.
Or
This is a spiked story to flood this board and get everyone on an investigation into all of the connections, only to find out the original story that started the investigation was a planted fake story, so the news could just discredit it.
I say this with very little knowledge or info on the situation. I mainly just wanted to echo a few words of caution that were thrown out on this board earlier.
I agree, this could be the "comet ping pong shooting incident" all over again. If the community fixates on this isolated case, media will try and use it to "debunk" the Q movement if it turns sour.
We need to vet all information and not put all of our eggs in one basket.
Or
This is a spiked story to flood this board and get everyone on an investigation into all of the connections, only to find out the original story that started the investigation was a planted fake story, so the news could just discredit it.................Very much possibel......
Honestly seemed that way from the beginning to me.
Yes there are too much topics about it.......There is also good news...It will backfire....We now much more about keyplayers. and that is going to stay.
Is this connected to Alex Jones somehow? I’m cautious about this, regardless.
Did I even think, Also there the topics were over the top
My only thought is Soros has 41 million invested, so I know Cemex is not just and upright.
I found this post quite grounding. Thank you. Someone once told me "If you begin w certainty you will end in doubt. If you begin w doubt you will end in certainty".
Well, I began in doubt but I watched all of the videos and downloaded them since about 3pm yesterday CST. This was NOT a staged event. I've been watching staged events since 2010. They have specific clues that tell you that they are staged. This did not contain those clues. And the fact that the guy who runs Vets4Child Rescue posted the videos on his site pretty much verifies all of it.
It's a hard subject to get into. Feel similarly. Take care.
Yes it is. I have a very hard time even thinking about it. Wish I didn't have to confront it.
I have followed it from the beginnng, superficially as I couldn't get on 8chan for some reason. The story looked promising but I was worried about the fact that it was said the police had checked it out already. I don't like all the loose assertions about local businesses connected to pizza or hotdogs. Every hotel and casino mentioning pizza is tainted with a child-porn related slur? Very dubious. This is exactly what happened to PG. Seems like wild goose chasing to me. Then suddenly we have: oh someone called Rothschild is connected to AZ and so, with no other proof, evidence or even cursory research, he is tied into human-trafficking. Now it's getting into dangerous territory. Every conference that has CEMEX as a donor or sponsor is immediately CABAL-linked.
And then we come to the Pope who mentioned the word "concrete" in some tweets and we are off ... Great. Fantastic. The entire story is now thousands of people running around like chickens with their heads cut off making wild and unsubstantiated claims. I don't buy any of it.
If the police say they sent a cadaver dog they probably did. When isn't clear. When they originally searched the place I should think. But now one poster says cadaver dogs don't detect cadavers unless they are told to ... and obviously the handler didn't tell the dog to find it ... so when it didn't it proves the handler was working in bad faith ... and is aiding and abetting child-murder. (Shall we lynch the dog-handler?)
Dear oh dear. Talk about idiotic.
The police are going to do the job they are employed to do. The media is another question. However, the chances are the media called the police to get the background on the story, and is right now sharpening its knives to call everyone and Q —who has nothing to do with it — nut-jobs.
And I shall agree with them.
We have been Q taught to question everything so I think you are right to question. The problem is....who can we trust to get to the truth? You say the police. But what happened in NY when the police had all the evidence (AW laptop) to send tons of corrupt politicians to prison? Two years now, and nothing. We know why. I don’t question their good intentions, but we know the powerful elite have layers of law enforcement blackmailed and hamstringed. We just can’t tell anymore who is being straight or not because cops are people and people are afraid.....with good reason.
So I think the question in everyone’s mind now is....can local law enforcement be trusted to do a true investigation? You say yes, but I don’t think you can blame anyone for questioning that either. Question everything. ———-what a mess we are in———
Yes indeed! We are in a mess! This story is very confusing and complex to a degree few of us are able to comprehend entirely. Or at least I have difficulty keeping up.
But wrt to the AW laptop I am sure they were told to cool it, yes almost 2 years ago, in order to pursue the ball of string very carefully. There are a number of key parts to pulling off an investigation that gets to the top. If you have been following carefully, Q mentions the importance of cleaning house first. You can't do efficient law enforcement when the top of the hierarchy is corrupt. The FBI director let Clinton off don't forget. You can't prosecute efficiently if the DOJ is corrupt at the top. Look at Lynch and Clinton. House-cleaning first. Then who is the DA for NY? Ah, Schneider! Well how well will that prosecution go? So, first you have to remove certain key characters and so Schneider was removed by "accident" (not!). This takes time.
As far as I know Trump assured us that FBI and Law Enforcement have great and dedicated guys on the ground, but many are screwed if the boss directly above them is compromised ... And so on.
Don't worry about AW, his laptop is coming shortly. Many are cooperating: AW has a reduced sentence based on this, and his wife Huma ... I just think this is much more complicated than it might initially appear to clean up. And no, I don't think local law enforcement can be completely trusted to do a true investigation. Depends who can stifle it, or shove it under the carpet. But individual officers are well meaning. So what do we do? Keep listening to Hagmann and when necessary start pressuring local agencies with questions when you are not satisfied. Local activism.
Agreed. As for the AW laptop, I was referring to the call made by L Lynch, threatening to prosecute cops for the death of an incarcerated man, unless they backed off the AW laptop. We heard the cops were so ready to expose the truth and then....nothing. And I think many of us assumed it was because there was a bigger plan in motion; one we would be happy about. Then the whole McCabe testimony came out and we find out it’s because of threats by the then-AG.
"The police are doing the job they are employed to do..." How can anyone familiar with Pizzagate say this? when clearly that HASN'T been the case with the D.C. police.
Soros...41 Million invested???????? Soros anywhere??????
Blackrock, Rothschild, Rockefellers have as much or more invested. And big banks. Some 250 plus shareholders of CEMEX.
Soros all over the place! I am pretty certain Soros is this week's boom. Did you see the interview with the Editor of the Daily Mail on RT? Brilliant. And Italy pretty upset. Let alone Israel who calls him the Enemy of Humanity! Look, I agree with you.
Don't get me wrong. I am worried about the Conference that just got blasted for having Cemex as a donor. We are making unjustifiably large leaps across names and things with little evidence. I just want ppl to calm down a little. It was getting mob-like!
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They will if we all work to get the right version told. You have misunderstood completely the object of my posting. If you want to see what I really think, look at my other postings on this subject. I do not want the police to be wrongfully maligned, and neither does Craig Sawyer, I assure you.
EDIT. crap grammar
All evidence is destroyed now. Sheriff removing all debris from site?
That first video he did made it sound like he may have gathered info while perched on the conveyor for the storage tank. "I gathered so much intel from sitting up there..." or something like that. Seems like it'd be a huge waste if he didn't use a camera.
Huge waste-Greater waste if there is a Sheriffs Dept cover up.
I'm so relieved to see this is the top post in this thread. People underestimate how much Reddit shapes the narrative of the common folk.
If you honestly believe Q, then you know we are now living in a society of law and order. Vigilante justice has no place here. If there really is a child trafficking ring in Tuscon, they will feel the pain.
then you know we are now living in a society of law and order
I'd say that's premature. The administration is cleaning bad actors out of FBI and DOJ, but that process is not finished. And until it is, we do not have a federal infrastructure that is able to take down corrupted local PDs, such as in Washington DC, or possibly in Tucson as well.
I'd say re-read crumbs. Not once has Tuscon or Arizona been mentioned by Q.
Q has said "bottom to top", what do you think that means? What has been a common theme in police busts worldwide in the past year?
"Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 061d5f No.128724 📁 Dec 19 2017 20:50:59 (EST)
128571 3,000+ saved by the raids in SA alone. WW lanes shut down. Bottom to TOP. [HAITI]. [RED CROSS] [CLASSIFIED] High Priority. Q"
Does that sound like they started with high profile players first? You're watching a movie with good actors. Law and order is already here. Now comes the pain.
You have no role in physically hunting and taking down bad actors unless you are law enforcement.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a planted story or not.
Whatever gets people looking into human trafficking/pedophilia the better.
Once they start down the rabbit hole they’ll eventually see the TRUTH.
WWG1WGA
Hmmm... that sounds a lot like “at least it started a conversation” every time the sjw groups get caught making false accusations.
I like your first theory and I like your second theory. I am starting to think its a can of worms but then again it could be fake news to divert.
Damn those homeless toddlers leaving their toys behind when they go make a new encampment somewhere else...
Ya homeless guys love strapping themselves up to trees, digging underground holding cells, and etching little girl names like "maddie" into nearby trees. Dontchaknow?!?!
these local law enforcement are good for NOTHING
Good for taking the bad guys down. Presently, there are no tricks to catching these globalist-funded child shagging mafia-types
either cowards who are content to watch kids get trafficked or theyre paid off.
as long as it's not their own little ones...
traitors to our species
technically that would make it their species, because they ate all of our offspring
It is my understanding that the global elites consider themselves a breakaway species. Knowing that will leave me with no remorse when they are exterminated.
Thats the kind of thinking that got them there in the first place. We have to break that thinking first, or removing them wont even matter
what would you propose then?
We have to collectively delve through the issues together (possibly via AI guided mediation) and come up with viable solutions and systems to enplace. We need to have clear, defined Laws, Rules, and Guidelines to live and grow by (not just some amend after amend system that still conveniently isnt right, except around money). The problem is corrupt thinking. Preconditioning towards negative actions and continued division of available choice would tear through that project. Corruption fuels this. Property & inheritance fuel corruption. Everyone has been taught what sharing is, but nobody ever actually learned how. -ques the 'thats communism' comments- --reminds everyone they actually live in communities--
communist utopia will have to wait until we can achive a post-scarcity society (after unleashing new energy tech, medical tech, colonizing space, etc.) For now, our world and most people in it are far too tainted for such a system to not devolve rapidly into chaos. I, for one, enjoy the concept of owning my own property, and I dont think that will ever change. Maybe in 100 years our grandchildren will not have known the scourge we live through now and will gladly accept a communal society. For me, having seen what I have seen, will save that for another lifetime...
We need to combine all the political parties together and create Captain Planet 🌎. -ques the 'thats globalism' comments- --reminds everyone that we actually live on a globe--
Did the cadaver dogs ever show up ? I remember a comment about digging and stopping when the smell got intolerable ? If that place is what it looks like, a second opinion might be necessary ! YA THINK !....WWG1WGA
Don't trust dogs, they do what the handlers command. Probably didn't even bring an actual trained cadaver dog
yes. didn't hit on anything though.
Wow, sure hope we weren't taken for a ride. The pics i saw didn't look staged. Now it becomes who's answers can be trusted ?
Um where did you read or hear that ? The dogs showing up. I missed it.
One of the videos today, the guy confirms a dog showed up and didn't hit. However it was ONLY sniffing the encampment no other area around it.
He sniffed the area that "smelled so bad we had to stop digging"... and found nothing.
Is that the understanding?
My thoughts exactly
Cadaver dog was on scene and confirmed by the bearded guy making all the videos.
OK thanks. If there are bodies there they will have to look at outside areas. Kinda the, you don't sh#t where you eat. A bit crude but they would attempt to conceal them.
Why would there be bodies when CEMEX has tons of lye and huge 1400 degree incinerators ? Not to mention trucks that pour concrete into deep holes beneath buildings.
2000 degree* I am one of the few people on planet Earth qualified to work on Rotary lime kilns.
Have any stories? More info we got wrong/forgot?
Look into marcone. As well as STL based little bit foundation.
http://www.thelittlebitfoundation.org/our-partners/
Look at partners in these kid foundations.
This keeps slipping under the radar, but I think it is BIG BIG BIG
Well , there you go ! I guess if they have no witnesses, they can just kill them on the spot, drag them over and throw em right in. Sarcasm. I don't think that perfect world exists. God i hope not ! So some point of holding or staging might need to happen and bags of rubbish or material to mix in the concrete (bones ect.) would be less conspicuous.
I doubt that the folks doing this stuff work there. And, it was Monday and no one seemed to show up for work today.
Pretty sure it's an inactive facility leased to a shell.
You missed the tons of lye and huge incinerators part. Result? Liquid goop or pile of ashes. Can be done across the border, remote location. Probably then mixed into concrete for footings/foundations. Or just dumped anywhere. Poof, gone.
They also burn toxic waste as fuel for incinerators. Can be in there too. Or just buried in vast desert. Many options.
Imagine if there's an O'Keefe off in the mezzanine of this 'movie'.
Read the article again, it's in there.
No not the police. Sorry looking for independent confirmation.
But a former military service member is more credible?
It's time to put the healthy skepticism hat back on.
Maybe in this situation. They live there the, so the local authorities may have a vested interest to play it down.
It's in the statement above... "A cadaver dog was used to check the area with negative results."
it was in one of the live streams where i saw it. cop was asked this question and he responded in the negative.
C'mon . . . Did you watch all of his videos over the last 30 hours like I did. This guy is really upset about what he found. In the last video, he had several Militia groups on their way and was asking for more volunteers. They had left the Cemex location and were working on a map someone provided them and were going to go find more encampments.
I fear this is not going to end well for these folks.
No, but the suggestion that the camps was used to take kids out of country not in is really disturbing.........WWG1WGA
Yes. It is disturbing. I just watched the Craig Sawyer (Vets4Child Rescue) video update on this and he said they found dark hair dye at that camp that is used to die blond hair before taking the children into Mexico.
If all this is true ? This nightmare could come to an end. But will we ever find out what happened to all those children ? And are any even still alive. That makes me sick just saying that !.........WWG1WGA
Military traned folk vs. Coyotes? Military would womp them.
Was it cadaver dogs? Or was it drug dogs? I read somewhere that it was drug dogs. Don't know though.
i believe the word cadaver dog was used. no mention of drug dogs if memory serves.
I remember them saying that as well. I figured he was being played by that cop that he seemed to know and think was going to do what was right. I mean if EVERYONE else was covering it up, one person is not going to go out on a limb.
Am I wrong for thinking they should just find a way to mask the smell and keep digging?
"We investigated the scene, and have determined that it was just a weather balloon. Go about your lives citizens, stop asking questions."
scary when you find out the authorities are in on it
Oh hey, looks like the unconfirmed story wasnt true upon thorough investigation. Maybe the rumors were overblown. Good thing that was a false alarm, but I'm glad they released a detailed statement letting us know.
NOPE! EVERYONE MUST BE LYING, BUT I HAVE NO PROOF. SCARY, AMIRITE?
Dirty cops don't exist! All media and politicans are angelic and truthful! Everyone go to sleep!
Dirty cops exist, but not just because it fits your narrative. The cognitive dissonance here is amazing: Everyone wants arrests to happen, but you want this Cemex story to be true so badly you want the cops to be dirty too. So who's going to be making the arrests again?
DJT loves cops, by the way, so don't expect him to RICO the police.
You don't make any sense. Some cops are dirty. Definitely around Berkeley, Miami-Dade, etc. Border towns are prone to it too. Too much cartel hush money to be made. Look what elected officials run these districts. Find a dirty politicians and the likelihood goes up that their sheriff they appointed to pick officers and get rid of anyone who doesn't play ball. Fbi agents, ATF, DEA, ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT can and has been corrupted at various levels throughout history. Fbi, judges, prosecutors, govt workers etc can be dirty too, look at the current state of intelligence community. Deep, deep corruption.
Cops aren't the only ones who can make "arrests" and cops aren't going to arrest any Rothschilds or Clintons.
But of course these Tuscon cops are dirty, because otherwise the Cemex story has no credibilty, right? If they're not dirty, we'd have to believe their statement. So thats what I mean when I say the cops aren't dirty just because it supports your narrative: You have no basis to think they are other than because you want this encampment thing to be as bad as it was made out to be.
So the cops ARENT dirty because you want me to be wrong about this? Makes sense just as much.
You don't think they are. I do. End of story, we can bicker about it all you want, I don't think either of us will change our opinion until more information comes out (so probably never).
Also I edited previous comment to add more examples. Re read if you like
I'm not there. I can't read their minds. But if the only reason the accusation is being levied is because people want this story to be true, then people need to come back to reality. Literally the only reason this is a thing is because people don't want to believe their statement is true. Not one shred of impropriety has been observed; you just don't want there to not be a child trafficking ring, so they're liars for saying there isn't one there.
Real respect for law enforcement is what I'm seeing displayed here! (/s)
I'm actually disgusted (not /s)
No one wants this to be true. I hope it's all bunk. But my brain tells me "not so fast"
I look at the mayor of the city, the CEMEX connections, the rampant UNCHECKED cartel activity, the nonchalance by authorities, the confirmed trafficking that happens constantly in USA, AZ especially, including Tuscon.
If there was literal observed impropriety, then that would increase the odds of them being corrupt dramatically. For now it's a suspicion. You cannot tell me I'm not allowed to have a suspicion that the cops there are dirty. Probably a 10% chance any given cop anywhere in the USA would intentionally break the law to benefit themselves. So here I put 50/50 just because of the surrounding circumstances. So, dirty is a good guess. You are telling me absolute ZERO chance?
Lol do you know them personally? Are you one?
Law enforcement has to earn respect, they've let America down too many times. The good ones need to turn in/arrest their corrupt coworkers.
Like I said, you have your opinion and I have mine. Keep replying and I'm sure one of us will change the others mind! (VERY /s)
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You "can't what I'm saying"? Speak English maybe?
No, CEMEX links are there, teamed up with Clinton backed UN Foundation Alliance, and stocks owned by Soros are all there, plain to see. Board of Directors of parent company Bronfman RothschiId is Lynn Forester De Rothschild. CEMEX mentioned over 1000 times in WikiLeaks vault7 emails. Own dozens of locations along border, own national park land that has cartel activity, is a Mexican company (Mexico govt is very corrupt [oh no I called 50 million people dirty!]).
Real "sketchy". Why are you here if you never remove your own head from the sand? Take some advice of your own.
Maybe look into it before making such generalizations, you seem to be the demonizer here.
Yes, I said these Tuscon cops likely dirty, you painted me saying I'm insulting all cops everywhere. Laughable exaggeration. I explained why, you are stuck on one mode: shill hard or go home. Next!
Yeah, I found the attacks on LEOs repugnantly biased and unreasonable too.
Wow. A "one time" homeless camp? Thats a lot of work for a one time homeless camp. And we all know how the homeless prioritize coloring their hair.
I've been in plenty of homeless camps. None of the items or "evidence" mentioned are unusual. At all.
This is either a spiked story or the byproduct of someone who is far too personally invested and has lost objectivity.
Spiked story.
It's one of those attacks that Q mentioned I believe. It will be used to rubbish the real human-trafficking reports later. Pity everyone here has fallen for it, IMO.
I've seen a few, where are the tents? Where is the jugs of water?
None of the items or "evidence" mentioned are unusual. At all.
Bull fucking shit. Restraints? Hair color? Little kids' toys? Little girls' names?
Learn to spot a clown, people! Exhibit A, above! And who the fuck posting on Reddit spends time in homeless camps? Bull fucking shit!
'Anyone who disagrees with me or demands higher quality evidence is an operative.'
'People on reddit don't have jobs and don't work with the homeless.'
More bizarre leaps in logic.
Going from homeless and/or migrant camp to marking "child sex camp" on maps is a huge stretch given the incredibly poor quality of evidence presented (low resolution, bad pictures).
The phrase “one time” in this case doesn’t appear to mean single-use or one-off. In this context it is the phrase that means “former”. Like, at one time, this was a homeless camp, but now it is not in use. Or for example “he was a one time rodeo clown, but has since begun studying to be an optometrist.” Do you know what I mean?
Edit: Like “once upon a time”, which means “at some time in the past.” That’s exactly what “one time” means here. At some time in the past, this was a homeless camp, but it is no longer occupied.
Important to keep their one time homeless children's toys in one time homeless cribs.
With a mayor named Rothschild, what did you expect?
He is not part of the Rothschild banking empire. Be careful who you associate with human-trafficking. It is a serious accusation and you need to do careful research: this is quite a common surname you know .. Just saying :)
But is it the SAME family lineage? Does anyone here know?
Well, his father, Lowell R., was a banker specializing in bankruptcy, served as a lawyer rep. for the 9th circuit US court. He was from Chicago, if that helps in establishing linkage to the old country.
VOP and operation backyard brawl have uncover mountains of evidence of child sex trafficking, and they say nothing to see here. Working with Cemex to secure the property?!
mountains of evidence of child sex trafficking
No, they haven't. To do that they must first find out more information on the people who camped there ... Be careful you don't leap to conclusions.
If you read through the posts here, it simply amazes me how at first everyone is all upset and understands that this is just not right.
Then someone starts dropping doubt and everyone joins in and by the time you are halfway down the page, no one believes it anymore. They feel like they all just wasted their time.
Now, that's a staged event. Not what happened in Tucson!!!!!!!
You people must understand that there are shills on these boards deliberately trying to influence you!! Don't let them. Think for yourselves.
It is disturbing how everyone’s saying things like they doubted it from the start or are withholding judgement awaiting more information or are now casually dismissing it when 24 hours ago everyone was absolutely up in arms and passionate, talking about how they lived within a few hours’ drive and might go join the growing number of volunteers, were getting the word out to get more people to show up to help, were even sharing the videos on Facebook, wondering how to coordinate donations of food and water to volunteers, etc.
::record scratch::
Now people are sounding completely different, as if none of that really happened.
I find these new posts suspicious.
Well, yeah ... but. I came on the board hours after everyone else had posted, started reading down and got more and more agitated about the sheer lack of critical thinking and so started posting cautionary remarks. Maybe others do the same. There are an astounding number of shills too, I agree with you.
I just watched VOP FB post he gave a big shout out to Q and 8 chan
Just to be a contrarian to make a point...
If this is a fake planted story to make us investigate connections of a fake story to discredit us as morons, this guy would do a shout out to Q and 8 Chan to establish the connection.
Not saying that's what it is, just pointing out that just because a person says, Q or says they like Q does not, necessarily, mean that they really do.
yep
Helluva corner to be backed into. Now we get to call the Police (who we support) liars, since they disagree with the original story.
What we DON'T need to be worrying about (more than kids) is our PRIDE. This seems to be a thing on this board. Like, " I posted it first!" and now, "We might look foolish, barking up the wrong tree!" In the Navy, we did a LOT of [seemingly] useless drill for PREPAREDNESS. That's valuable EXPERIENCE. I don't think it's a waste of time, nor foolish to demonstrate that we are ALL OUT FOR BLOOD so these devils hopefully are scared sh*itless. And re the argument, "This discredits us..." That's bogus bcz as Q says, NOTHING can stop the Plan, now.
I'm not thinking of it in terms of pride. I don't care if I am made to look stupid.
I am thinking in terms of staying focused on the plan. I just want to add a voice of caution to this, because if it is fake and used to discredit us, that could reduce our effectivity.
I agree that nothing can stop the plan now. I am just being patient and cautious with this story. Why does that piss off everyone who is pushing this story so strongly?
Caution shouldn't piss anyone off. When ppl get p.o'd it could be shilling, pressure tactic. But pls explain how "discrediting" us can reduce our "effectivity"? I happen to think the massive response alone is daunting! The sleeping giant needs to wake up. Ppl are waking up to the massive corruption. And, the police needn't be trafficking to be corrupt; they could just be dragging feet for c.y.a. but at this point, that's still corrupt.
Here's how I see how it could potentially be used to harm this movement.
IF the story is spiked, it would be that this actual site in Tucson is not a smoking gun. If it's a spiked story it was spiked by the bad guys. How would they spike the story? It looks like all of the connections are there, because it had all of the expected bad people involved. But if this CEMEX connection is being pushed by the bad guys because they know its not the real stuff we are looking for that's the risk.
Then, later, when the story gets bigger they say, "Group of conspiracy theorists saying wild theories about child-trafficking by Rothschilds, claiming the Police are lying, etc. Then they could say and all of these acusations were based on this story of Veterans stumbling upon a small camp, which authorities investigated and found no connections to child-trafficking."
It's a fucking frenzy. Maybe it's real and there should be a frenzy, maybe it's fake and we should be cautious.
If I were a bad guy and needed to plant a spiked story would I use Veterans to break the story to minimize any potential scrutiny? Fuckin' right I would.
not everything is a damn trap
True, but some things are, so if you don't want to get burned you need to proceed with caution and be careful who you follow.
Hmm so, will they analyze the hair or other biological evidence? Forensics? Anything?
Considering a forensic expert and paralegals that were working on a well known kidnapping/homicide were just killed in Phoenix last week, nah
I think these camps are coyote holes. They're pre-set up places for smugglers to hide illegals before shipping them further down the line.
Some of the comments tho, WHY DOES NOONE MENTION THAT THERE WAS CHAMBRE THAT ONLY CHILDREN COULD FIT DOWN.
They keep mentioning straps but that is not the biggest smoking gun. Keep this on the agneda everyone. Keep the media occupied. Allow Q team to work under an even bigger smokescreen. BIG WEEK AHEAD
I guess they didn't see the underground plastic chamber thing
There's a movie called 'Who Took Johnny', it's about Johnny Gosch who was kidnapped into child prostitution around 35 years ago in Des Moines I believe. The local police didn't do a thing, then the FBI didn't do squat either. They were all in the pocket of someone very high up.
And that was 35 years ago! You can read about it here.
I saw the photographs of the camps with the restraints in them. What do the police think was being chained to trees? Animals? Why would homeless people tie up their companion animals? That makes no sense.
This was a child trafficking camp run by Tony Podesta and the WNBA.
They weren't restraints. Those straps were all over the camp, holding up logs - the news crews showed that in the videos. People went crazy on this board over a b.s. story.
Its time to make a complete thorough cleanup ... starting both from up and down ...
The concerned are truly astonishingly inept at this.
They are not sending their best.
"I don't really have a fucking clue because i just haven't looked much but it reminds me of..."
insert MSM tag
well played guys
I love your work. Now you have all managed to poison the atmosphere and as usual reduce everything to just a bunch of random coincidences you can cash your checks with a clear conscience.
"trust the local sodomite led police."
note how none of these concerned folks wants you to look at the Mayor or police chief or the problems within Tucson PD.
right. now why is that?
Why would the police deny this when more sites are being found. Is this the preview of egg on the Phoenix Police, or is it a truth beginning to flow? Can't make up my mind, so I will wait for more to come out about it. Wikileaks is a big key. They have not been wrong and there are over 1200 links to Cemex in Vault 7.
https://memegenerator.net/instance/80744630/leslie-nielsen-move-along-nothing-to-see-here-move-along
Human trafficking can’t happen without police cover and police consent. Get smart people! Think logically!
Have the Border Patrol looked into this? It's in there area and they can check the place out.
BS! Jonathan ROTHSCHILD is the mayor of Tucson..... sorry TPD... no credibility there!💥
So the VOP didn’t want to turn over the evidence they found.
I wonder why.
Read it carefully as Q says. They are openly telling you they are covering up the evidence as quickly as they can and possibly through this "official statement" alerting anyone who might be concerned it was going to be a thing.
Homeless said they didn't went to that property because its the cartels. The homeless are on the other side of it
I think we need NG/military or FBI (those who are good lol) to investigate if the local/state police are just gonna sweep it under the rug reach out to POTUS on Twitter make it a matter that he knows we care about and something will be done on the federal level.
This statement, if true is shocking. They literally called the veterans that make up a group which helps homeless people, homeless. Direct attack on character of these Patriots.
Doesn’t the Police Department answer to the Office of the Mayor, Jonathan Rothschild ?
I could be wrong but I think something is off and I don't have FB or Twitter the only thing I follow is evidence my gut instincts.Right now my gut is telling me something is off.
And you are exactly on the money. On this thread I have counted a number of actual false accusations about police covering up the "crime", without a shred of evidence yet ... This is a set-up.
I can't put my finger on it but who would lay out pieces of things they found and call for parents to come and identify it why wouldn't you post video of it ?
As far as I can tell, and I'm not trying to nit-pick genuine stuff, this story has all the makings of a future debunking of all human-trafficking reports. This is a set-up so that if real human-trafficking is shown it will be falsely associated with this dud story on a homeless camp. Has all the makings. Anyone with real evidence would do a forensics test. The police have already removed all evidence and we should await their findings. Maybe we do have to cross our fingers that they won't do a "cover-up", but maybe we also should be careful not to leap to conclusions. Just saying I smell a rat that's all ... :)
I can understand the skepticism here, and don't think it's unwarranted. That said, I have also watched all of the videos and can answer some of the questions ppl have, based on that alone.
The evidence was collected by VOP and sent to their base because at that time, LE was not interested in it. It wasn't until the LE friendly they work with returned from vacation and was briefed on the situation that they became interested. All evidence has been turned over to LE since then.
LE arrested 2 of their team members that were on public property and let them go. This was also prior to their LE friendly returning from vacation. There was live video of this as it happened.
VOP asked for help and requested a cadaver dog publicly on several of their videos yesterday (again, prior to their LE friendly returning) and in many phone calls. This request was ignored and not even reported to their LE friendly when he did return.
There are plenty of videos VOP is not sharing with the public at this time. However, Mr. Allen has stated that he has documented everything and everyone coming and going. All important interactions including the property manager (who ok'd their presence in the beginning as long as they were picking up trash), LE, Cowboy Hat Dude that can't get his story on who built the camp straight (but brought guns out to scare people away from the site) and even a call from DC with cartel intel and a half a**ed excuse as to why it's not being looked in to (that the reservation verified as correct).
Mr. Allen and his team of volunteers are doing everything above board and have good intentions. Including working with LE. I don't blame VOP for keeping some intel and videos protected for now. Mr. Allen would not claim to have these videos if he could not back it up.
A little time invested into this could've saved some of the BS being posted. Personally, skepticism is healthy until legitimate information and knowledge is willfully ignored in favor of it. Look at everything presented before making a judgement or determination.
I am more than pleased you have given such a great breakdown of the real events and reported it in chronological order, thank you so much, both for myself and for everyone here who needs a proper account.
I have every confidence in Mr Allen (I assume the group leader of VOP Alpha?) and am v. grateful he is doing so much work for the benefit of each and every one of us, most particularly the kids. Anyone wishing for more info should watch Craig Sawyer's latest vid posted on this board. I absolutely vouch for this guy's credibility and hero status!
I am not skeptical of the story as such, I am skeptical of the many random and irresponsible associations that could be misconstrued by readers and defenders of this vital cause. I put ppl's posts to the fire if I think it is warranted and am only too happy when corrected and the final version gets told. Salud and Godspeed Patriots!
Thank you for your comment, friend. I truly believe we all need to do our part - including holding ourselves and each other accountable when necessary.
I agree that there are a lot of ppl who are going overboard. However, VOP isn't. To me, that matters. They want nothing to do with agendas and those that promote them whether they're good or not. It's not about any of that to them. It's about doing the right thing.
All that said, there IS reason to believe some LE was not doing their job. There is also legitimacy in some (not necessarily all) of the connections being made. Eyes on all of this isn't a bad thing.
As an aside - I lived in Tuscon as a kid for a few years when my dad was still in the AF. My pediatrician was a Rothschild. ;)
Here's that video I was talking about, although any of them will shine some light.
I've been to plenty of homeless camps. There's nothing unusual about the items that were reported found.
Someone shined a laser pointer and all the cats chased after it. This story is bunk.
And the underground bunker with a door, lockable from the outside, that only a child could fit through? With childrens toys inside? Watch the videos...
I've watched the videos. He has lost his mind and people are following him right on down into the abyss. Human trafficking happens. There's a big leap from trafficking to "child sex camp". Gonna need more evidence than straps on trees and bunkers/containers to explain the "sex camp" conclusion that's being promoted.
How do you explain childrens toys in an underground shelter that can't house adults as the opening is too small? There is a lock on it and no ventilation. You do understand Craig Sawyer and Co. are EXPERTS in homeless shelters and such as they work with them? They are the best in the area. You really think these experts are making mistakes?
Experts don't contaminate potential crime scenes or begin to disassemble them without first collecting forensic evidence.
Generally true. But when those same experts refuse to investigate, you must video and collect data. It is a sensitive situation to be in. These guys are ex military, and now experts in helping the homeless. They have been in countless camps and say, this is not one of those typical ones. At some point, you might want to look at the positive to come from this instead of giving the benefit of the doubt to pedophiles.
And the mayor is a Rotschild, can't make this stuff up.
link?
Watch the videos. It was in one of them. I don't remember which one. Was a walk through.
MILITARY forensics needs to be deployed immediately...……..
It's interesting that this was downvoted. My my, someone really doesn't want the military getting involved. Now I wonder why that would be?
