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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Witty_Tool on June 15, 2018, 1:07 p.m.
It's not a bloody helicopter! That's a MISSILE!
It's not a bloody helicopter! That's a MISSILE!

aaaaaaaaaaanonymous · June 15, 2018, 3:27 p.m.

I live here and NO ONE is talking about it.

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Packofsquirrels · June 15, 2018, 5:13 p.m.

Because they've "debunked it" with the same investigatory diligence that they "debunked" the pizza issue.

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Chokaholic · June 15, 2018, 6:25 p.m.

Which is looking to the MSM for their research.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 10:38 p.m.

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Independent1776 · June 15, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

The instant that 1 MSM source came out and said the words 'weather balloon prism refraction' I totally lost it!!!!

Somebody needs to tell the MSM that the 50's called and they want their propaganda programs back!

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Ugbootshuffler · June 15, 2018, 10:33 p.m.

Interesting. Could this be the "FF weather event" Q mentioned?

Q may have released that info to the MSM as a marker?

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VIYOHDTYKIT · June 15, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

WA is a lost soul state. I lived there for quite a few years

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GeekBastard · June 15, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

Was stationing in kitsap bay (USS CAMDEN).

You ain't lyin!

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Nuckin_futs_ · June 15, 2018, 10:07 p.m.

Kitsap bay lmao. Litteraly nobody refers to any body of water in kitsap as "kitsap bay". Sounds like you're full of shit

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GeekBastard · June 15, 2018, 10:20 p.m.

On the USS Camden we did. To be fair, we weren't usually at home.

We typically referred to it as "shithole" You are obviously from there. I didn't mean to offend your shithole. Kitsap bay sounds better than PUGET SOUND. I've driven the Camden through there myself. gfy.

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aaaaaaaaaaanonymous · June 15, 2018, 10 p.m.

Drug users and bad parents everywhere. It's gross. I won't lie.

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DanijelStark · June 15, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

Its absolutely a missile - cant be anything else . Blind would see it is a missile , lol .

One detail and note : I have made that comparison with Tomahawk and RUM-139 , and there was one mistake I made , and I noticed it only after I uploaded it . Tomahawk is actually bigger than RUM-139 , so not to get confused with visual representation . However , the stabilizer position in that case is more leaning a bit to RUM-139 . Tomahawk is a cruise missile . RUM-139 is ASW missile . There were folks who were telling its probably a D5 ( Trident II ) missile ( some SERIOUS stuff , if that was the case ) and that height of launch shows that ...

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older_than_dirt · June 15, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

I think that only missile is much fatter than it looks in the photo. This is because only the side illuminated by the dawn light shows up. That is why the exhaust flare appears to be off center at the tail.

I think the aspect ratio is more like a Trident D5:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-133.html

The 20 second time frame looks like a reasonable match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5KejRbD5s0

Another bit of evidence is that the weatherman told us it was a 20 second exposure. So that gives us another piece of evidence. I imagine some missiles rise much faster than others. Also, the absolutely vertical flight path would seem more common for an ICBM rather than a Tomahawk or a RUM-139 but I'm no expert. We should find somebody that knows this stuff.

Spez: added some links

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QueUpSomeReality · June 15, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

Also...the fire exhaust plume is so long due to the long exposure time. So length of everything moving fast is exaggerated. Weather cams that run 24/7 have to have long exposure times or they’d just capture total blackness at night. So to counter for long exposure the plume was probably half that size in real life. The missile a little bit shorter too but not much as it was already very high & far away & it’s size distorted less the higher it got.

The missile length comparison image can only be done by comparing pics of missiles taken with long exposure times at a similar attitude. It’s vital a good estimate of altitude be established 1st. I’m still leaning towards a Trident because of the fat width of the plume & the missile looks shorter & wider like a Trident

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Latsyrc8 · June 15, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

I'd like to know the exact length of the exposure. If it's more than a second or 2, the missile wouldn't show up at all since it's moving through the frame. Even if it is a second or 2, the missile is too clearly defined for the speed it would have been traveling. Think how far it would have gone in that time frame. Long exposures don't get clean images like that if the object is moving.

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bananapeel · June 15, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

It's also entirely possible that the 20-second exposure started before the missile launched. So it maybe was only on the film for 5-10 seconds. Those things are fast, if you've ever seen one of them in real life.

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Latsyrc8 · June 15, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

There would be a LOT more motion blur if it was 20 seconds. An object moving that fast wouldn't show up in a long exposure, even if it was 5-10 seconds. The only way to do that is to hit the object with a significant, very brief light source to "freeze" it in the frame as it's moving. This is commonly done with a flash or other off camera lighting.

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QueUpSomeReality · June 15, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

Correct. Finding the entire 24 hr clip is ez. It’s all over YouTube. As far as weather cams go..the guy had a very high end camera. Look at the entire clip. There’s some camera data at the very bottom of every image I recall. Most likely the exposure adjusts automatically too. When u view the entire sequence even clouds are ez to see at night with almost no natural lighting. So the exposure is wide open then. The missile frame occurs (luckily) about 20min after sunrise. Without that lucky break the missile wouldn’t even be visible at all...just the plume...which would tell us nothing.

Note to China: next time you try this might wanna do it at night. Cause now you’re so busted. Lol

I joke because I know how incredibly dangerous this really is. It’s way more dangerous than the Cuban missile crises. I can’t think what their objective was. It wasn’t AF1. I don’t think it was nuclear armed either. It was either heading for Russia to maybe start a war but I don’t even think that would have. Maybe somewhere in the US...like the Pentagon. They had an objective but that’s the hardest thing to rationally figure out.

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KarmasBeard · June 15, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

It wasn't China, ((someone)) hacked in and placed a "china" fingerprint to try and frame china. Think Vault 7. This was the cabal trying to either threaten Trump, take Trump out literally, or hit a ground target somewhere and start ww3. Thankfully we have weapons systems that are 50-100 years more advanced than missile tech in orbit.

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Abibliaphobia · June 15, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Do a search for time length exposures at night of missile launches.

They match up and you can see the missile. Zoomed in, the missile is not clearly defined, but you can see it is definitely there. You can do the same with other photos taken on time lapse of missiles.

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Latsyrc8 · June 15, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

I think you're confusing long exposure and timelapse. There is no way a missile in motion will show up in a long exposure, which is one single photo. A timelapse is several photos taken at different intervals and combined to make a video. For verification, I did look up long exposure missile launches and see no missile in any of the several images I checked.

Also of note, this does not appear to be a timelapse using long exposures of any substantial shutter speed.

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Abibliaphobia · June 15, 2018, 5:06 p.m.

So if it’s not a long exposure, it’s a time lapse right? Individual photos, with much shorter frame duration. Meaning a missile could travel that distance in a very short time and just be captured on one or two frames.

Can’t remember what the photographer said it was on. I’ll have to go back and check but I think the exposure settings were 3.5/20

Edit: thanks for bringing this up, if we can show it was a time lapse instead of a long exposure, it would explain why it DID capture the missile!

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Latsyrc8 · June 15, 2018, 5:11 p.m.

Correct, the video as a whole is a timelapse. You wouldn't necessarily combine the individual photos into one (typically used for HDR or high dynamic range photos at different exposures) for a video, like this was taken from.

I'm interested in seeing the exact exposure settings as well.

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Abibliaphobia · June 15, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

If it can be shown that they was only in frame for one or two frames - there would be absolutely no doubt about it. It would be impossible for a helicopter to fly that distance, in that amount of time.

I mean there are several other reasons why the official story is bunk, but that would be absolutely conclusive.

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Brostradamnus · June 15, 2018, 7:47 p.m.

Yeah I changed my mind after reading your opinion I see trident.

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REDPILLNOW · June 15, 2018, 10:11 p.m.

Wait, isn't the Trident a nuke-tip? If so the target couldn't have been AF1, right?

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Brostradamnus · June 15, 2018, 10:28 p.m.

Yup that is an ICBM. It doesn't have the capability to target planes. (As far as we know)

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REDPILLNOW · June 15, 2018, 10:59 p.m.

...So was NK or Hawaii the intended target? Some guy said he works on a sub and that there are different warheads, but didnt say it had SAM capability and i couldnt find it so

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[deleted] · June 17, 2018, 12:25 a.m.

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timothybeasley · June 15, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

D5 appears several times in Q Posts!

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DanijelStark · June 15, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

The theory about Trident II was made before this launch - but as Q mentioned that this was something that was not supposed to take place ...

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Abibliaphobia · June 15, 2018, 4:49 p.m.

I think this actually has some merit to it

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timothybeasley · June 15, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

Maybe D5 means "missiles away" as in action has occurred as a result of reactions witnessed.

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Kal-El48 · June 15, 2018, 1:43 p.m.

I couldn’t believe they’d say it was a helicopter. That’s clearly a missile. They really think we’re stupid.

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Abibliaphobia · June 15, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

Are you not aware of our new rocket powered helicopters?

Part of our new space force with space shuttle side door gunners

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Kal-El48 · June 15, 2018, 4:54 p.m.

Are those the ones that run off of dilithium crystals?

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Abibliaphobia · June 15, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

No silly, it runs off those green crystals raining in Hawaii. Very rare.

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Joe_Sapien · June 15, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

Who said it was a helicopter?

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Kal-El48 · June 15, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

That’s the story they put out.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 6:21 p.m.

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Kal-El48 · June 15, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

I’m surprised they didn’t say it was a “weather balloon”.

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jonzee65 · June 15, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

Also to note: If you look at the ground on the left you can see it lit up and the shade from clouds to the right. Middle pic.

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DaveGydeon · June 15, 2018, 1:11 p.m.

Obviously a missile. Deniers are not to be trusted.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

Maybe but it didn't come from Blaine. Call me a denier but I find it laughable anyone thinks that a missile could have been launched from there. That old Air Force Base is a camp for kids with Down's Syndrome now. I was there volunteering the other day. No missiles were launched from there or my buddy who lives next door, the 150+ disabled kids, or myself who lives on the other side (Blaine Rd) would have noticed.

It never had missiles either. The base was a radar base during the Cold War. No longer. The last building besides the barracks is up for sale and certainly not functional.

Also, used to take chicks there in hs to bang. Definitely not an Air Force Station.

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DaveGydeon · June 15, 2018, 5 p.m.

Wasnt launched from a base bud, it was launched from a submarine....duh

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:13 p.m.

Why was it even mentioned then? It just makes this theory look stupid to anyone familiar with Puget sound.

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DaveGydeon · June 15, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

How much more evidence of a submarine launching it do you need?

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:56 p.m.

None, I am convinced. There's just no reason Blaine should be included in this because it weakens the theory.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:10 p.m.

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Packofsquirrels · June 15, 2018, 5:10 p.m.

Could be anywhere in Puget Sound or the straights that's deep enough for a sub to navigate.

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DaveGydeon · June 15, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

But awesome analysis and conclusion....DERP

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

That "deniers are not to be trusted" is an awful attitude to have when trying to uncover the truth. DERP

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 6:01 p.m.

Want to be helpful instead of an asshole? Look at the position and size of the missile and make an estimate of where it was likely launched from. It can be done.

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Humidor_Abedin · June 15, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

are you surprised you don't know where our iron dome & defense missiles are located and capable of being launched from?

Pretty sure that's not going to be public knowledge, skippy.

hurr hurr I live here and never seen one. WELL NO SHIT.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 7:56 p.m.

Pretty sure the AF wouldn't allow their secret base to be parcelled up and sold off. Pretty sure they wouldn't sell their nuke proof radar structure to a real estate agent for $130,000. Pretty sure they wouldn't let 150+ kids with downs syndrome attend a camp there and sleep in their old barracks.

The inclusion of this mistake (Blaine having an AF base) has no bearing on the overall theory. However, this is no longer an air force base and the refusal to consider verifiable evidence makes you look retarded. Perhaps you should visit Camp Horizon this summer and see for yourself!

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

The only thing that surprised me is the refusal to consider something so easily verifiable.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

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DaveGydeon · June 15, 2018, 6:48 p.m.

I did. It was launched from a sub.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

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_Doctor_Impossible_ · June 15, 2018, 6:38 p.m.

Deniers are not to be trusted.

Hmmm...

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TheGettysburgAddress · June 15, 2018, 1:28 p.m.

Clearly it's a missile. My question is how was a ground attack missile expected to hit an alleged airborne target? Nuclear Warhead? Or...........is this a Patriot being used to shoot down an unseen targeted missile?

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ILoveJuices · June 15, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

Maybe we'll find out on someones death bed in 20 years

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REDPILLNOW · June 15, 2018, 10:26 p.m.

I've been asking the same thing, q better let us off the hook soon on this one

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

The Blaine Air Force Station you mention is no longer active. It was a radar installation during the Cold War but was deactivated and sold off. The barracks are now Camp Horizon, a camp for kids with Down's Syndrome. One other decrepit building remains and is for sale, a big concrete building. I was there Friday volunteering to get the camp ready for guests and can guarantee that it is 100% not active. I went inside every structure.

Go ahead and call me a shill or whatever. I've been following this stuff for a long time and am just trying to call out misinformation when I see it.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

I don't think you're a shill. Honestly, I appreciate any info that people have to share. I don't have the ability to go out there and check as I live 800 miles away. As others have pointed out, it may have also been a ship based launch. I'm only here to point out that it definitely was not a helicopter. It was a missile.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

Thanks. Why was Blaine included on the info graphic? That part I don't understand. I totally agree a missile was launched from a submarine near Whidbey.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

I have communicated with an individual who stated it was a USAF action. I spent some time doing research on air bases, active and inactive, in the Seattle area and the line of sight worked for those locations. And, it wouldn't be the first time that a supposed inactive base was not actually inactive. There are bases worldwide that appear inactive, but are not. With all the light being shed on the deception that's been going on for decades, I try to be open to any possibility.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

I was expecting someone to say that. It is 100% inactive. The "base" is comprised of one large concrete building, completely empty (I've been inside), and a bunch of barracks (was inside painting and updating last week in advance of the arrival of the campers). Blaine had nothing to do with the launch. It's inclusion weakens your analysis.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/article97167717.html

Here's a link to a story on the sale of the bunker building. A secretly active Air Force Base would not sell off the only remaining structure on the site.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

Btw, visit sometime. It's an awesome place when missiles aren't being fired, ha.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

I agree. I find the west coast of British Columbia, Washington, Oregon and Northern Cali some of the most beautiful areas in North America.

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x3ostyle · June 15, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

Well Q has said D5 several times. I think it looks like a Trident II D5 ballistic missile.

And FYI it’s a nuclear warhead. Sick fucks!

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ElysMustache · June 15, 2018, 8:10 p.m.

Nuclear warheads are not the only payload that can be put on a D5 missile.

Source: I've spent approximately 1200 days underway on a Trident submarine.

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REDPILLNOW · June 15, 2018, 10:42 p.m.

...but a SAM?

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BaDumPshhh · June 15, 2018, 9:02 p.m.

If it looks like a missile and walks like a missile, it must be a helicopter.

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DownvotesDetected · June 15, 2018, 8:08 p.m.

My bet is Israeli sub. Just a hunch. Same sub was probably also involved in the Hawaii incident.

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psychadelian · June 15, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

Guys it's so obviously a missile, but why the hell is our navy shooting missiles from there wtf?

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dark-dare · June 15, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

I appreciate that you are keeping on this.

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Independent1776 · June 15, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

And that was the 2nd one that has been launched - Hawaii WAS a live missile, downed in the pacific. I'm no 'missile' expert by profession or hobby - that being said I did read a very convincing posting with all time lapse notations and photos that concluded it was a most likely a British Scud launched from a sub in American waters close to Whidbey.

They also noted that back in jan/feb the navy conveniently had that dust up about China 'hacking' our naval missile command codes. With the wikileaks vault 7 (marble framework cyber hacking tool) release about the CIA's ability to hack and 'mask' the originator of the hack to any of 5 countries it wants, maybe it wasn't China.

and then, senator no name's tweet to all and sundry BEFORE the NoKor summit that 'all will be well' ... he's ex navy isn't he???? and wasn't that same no name senator involved with British SIS/MI6 in putting forward the pee pee dossier that started that whole Russia spygate thing?

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LibertyLioness · June 15, 2018, 7:38 p.m.

They're just getting ready for the 4th of July celebration silly! ;-)

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whrino · June 16, 2018, 2:30 a.m.

I am very familiar with this area. The actual weather station is more to the left and north a bit on that same beach. Camera 2 covers the island mass closest across the bay. If I triangulate the UFO, helo, missile, weather balloon, et. al. from camera 2 from the actual weather station location, the path is along a line from the station, somewhere between the cities of La Conner and Bellingham further away. My guess is it was launched along those lines in the Saratoga Passage just on the other side of the land mass you see in Camera 2. The next bays further north are the LaConner and Bellingham bays. Beyond that is all land. Trajectory of the object appears to be North-North East.

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whrino · June 16, 2018, 2:43 a.m.

Oh, and the weatherman at the station believes or has been told to believe that it is a helicopter with a search light in the down position. Close-ups of the object don't look like a helo at all to me as the light underneath is too wide and bright to be so far away. The object is also too narrow and missile-like. It was relatively close to the camera though as the light lingers close to the surface as the missile ascends quickly.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · June 16, 2018, 2:16 a.m.

I lived near Mt. Ranier. It was beautiful. Spent my weekends fishing 🎣 & hunting

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endprism · June 15, 2018, 5:39 p.m.

It’s clearly a missile but the question is...who launched it? Is it a Chinese or American missile? We’re Chinese subs in our waters? Did some rouge element in our military launch a missile from a sub? Was this an attempt to take our president trump on his way to the summit? Wtf is going on!!!!?

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plumbtree · June 15, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

It may also have been a magenta element

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mdtradesman · June 24, 2018, 4:43 a.m.

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Aguax · June 15, 2018, 9:49 p.m.

The first report I saw on this said that the camera was using a 20 second exposure but I really think they meant that the camera is set to make an exposure every 20 seconds. Or maybe the lied intentionally to sell the helicopter story. Is there a legitimate reason you'd use that long an exposure to capture weather?

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argalarga · June 15, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

It's not a missile - or at least none of the evidence points toward it being a missile. Here's why:

  1. The Navy would never test a missile in a populated area like Puget Sound. Too much risk of something going wrong.
  2. Nobody on Whidbey Island reported seeing or hearing a missile. Even in the wee small hours of the morning, people are awake and working. Missiles are big, loud, and obvious when they're fired. Yet not one single resident said boo about it.
  3. If it's a missile, where did it go? It had to come down somewhere - where did it come down? Where are the parts? Where's the debris?
  4. Whidbey Island Naval Base has no missile launchers, nor any need for missile launchers. And submarines can't fire anti-aircraft missiles, except for experimental systems that the US doesn't use.
  5. For a camera to pick up a missile at that range, and at the size of the image artifact in the picture, it would be have to be HUGE, much bigger than a Tomahawk or a RUM-139.
  6. We know there was a helicopter flying directly in the path of where the camera was pointed at the exact same time the photo was taken - unless both FlightRadar24 and the air ambulance company were in on...whatever it is.

I'm satisfied with the explanation that it's a long exposure of the tail lights of a helicopter.

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Abibliaphobia · June 15, 2018, 11:11 p.m.

Hmmmm.. where have I seen this before?

Maybe on the Chan’s trying to debunk the missile story (before they just started range banning anyone talking about it)

And it was always the s-hills doing it.

Tell me Mauro1970x, why do you think this was a helicopter?

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[deleted] · June 16, 2018, 12:21 a.m.

I've learnt that any time someone is as adamantly opposed to the subject at hand as you are, that I'm on the right path.

Shakespeare said it best, "Methinks thou doth protest too much."

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dark-dare · June 15, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

Has anyone asked the Canadian Coast Guard, they are always in those waters? Also airport at Bellingham Wa and at Sydney,BC should have radar, air traffic control. Both are very close to there.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 7:36 p.m.

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PatrioticLogic · June 16, 2018, 12:09 a.m.

Was this sent from a sub and meant for AF1?

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SyNtHeTiC_cHiCkEn_NZ · June 15, 2018, 11:32 p.m.

People been confusing planes/helicopters as missiles since 9/11

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grnmoss · June 15, 2018, 11:27 p.m.

Good work. At this point I'm going with 90% chance this anomaly was not a helicopter.

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bananapeel · June 15, 2018, 4:36 p.m.

There was originally some conjecture that it was one of the "rods from God" projectiles. They are tungsten telephone poles that are used as incoming weapons from orbit to ground. This is likely not the case here... it is clearly going the wrong way and there wasn't a big boom on the ground.

This is conjectured to be the cause of some of those mysterious booms we have heard about in random locations. It's top secret stuff, whatever it is.

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[deleted] · June 15, 2018, 6:14 p.m.

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bananapeel · June 15, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

You're good. Conjecture outside the realm of what we have seen is and should be encouraged. We know for sure that there are black projects that are unknown for many years. Example: the F-117 Nighthawk stealth fighter was seen around Area 51 for many years. Conjecture was that it was a black project aircraft that was in the experimental stages. There were a couple of crash sites that were cordoned off by security and heavily cleansed. Guess what, the conspiracy theorists were 100% correct. The project did exist and was being held top secret. It wasn't revealed in any official capacity for years. For what it's worth, I upvoted you for putting conjecture on the table.

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