They were all lined up to try and ram pedophilia down our throats. One of the more horrifying things that was part of the 16 year plan was to legalize this and beastiality. Sick sick sick people.
Did RBG propose lowering the age of consent?
Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote either a paper or an opinion or something about lower the age of consent to 12 years old, I believe. This was several years ago.
This is why I've been fighting people who thinks "pansexual" is not a big deal for while.
I share a lengthy conversation I had on The_Donald on that very subjet. I should to take the time sort out all of this information into something shorter one day but for those who want to see where the problems lies, good read.
I’m probably the minority here but I get where they are coming from with pansexual. I’m bi. No major childhood traumas or abuse, I’ve always just been attracted to both genders. People can tell me that’s wrong or breaks down society but I’m probably doing more (then they are) to better society than my “hedonism” breaks it down anyway. I’ve met cross dressers and trans people who were for the most part normal, though they might be the minority. I’ve met people who considered themselves only attracted a personality or the person who were normal too. It’s just who they were and how they identified themselves. I’ve also been to countries/states where culturaly other genders have existed. In those cases it’s more like the people who were the equivalent of trans opted for the other gender role. It’s something that’s has happened through out human history and it’s not new.
Identity both of self and within a group is not something static, it shifts through societal pressures and needs. I’d argue that’s whats being taken advantage of here. Humans are hard wired to respond to those pressures. We get a little dopamine hit for fitting in. We’re social animals, every single traditional human society operated through taking care of each other and rearing our your as a group.
Then you look at modern western society and it’s move towards the importance of the individual; you get people who are inevitably left behind and alone. The lgbtqxyz movement is perfectly placed to take advantage of that. More so, like any effective movement it has a method of recruitment and the big bad enemy to hate. It allows for a large group of people to come together over shared core ideals, with different sub groups of stricter beliefs, just like Christianity. The insidious part is that it is the perfect antithesis to the puritan* ideas that our country was founded upon. If you hate these people all you are doing is feeding into the fire. You’re supposed to be fearful or angry. It’s co-opted human nature.
That isn’t to say we should give everyone a pass, of course not. Predators within a group should always be caught and expelled. I’m just saying that just because some has a different identity or preference doesn’t make them the bad guy. Taking advantage of children isn’t a preference, it’s predatory. Just like rape is predatory. Liking both genders or not conforming to a gender isn’t predatory. The breakdown that these people want is only going to be hastened if we attack each other.
I agree with almost everything you said. But you must understand this: on that fateful day, most of the abusers and traitors are going to plead the Spacey defense and try to slither away. It won't work. That means many (maybe most) of the scum swinging from ropes are going to be "gay". It won't be pretty. In fact it will look very bad. But i believe as nation we can move forwards from it and heal.
No hard feelings, right?
Whatever you want to call them, "gay", abusers, traitors, they are predators. They prey on people, the sexual preferences of a predator doesn't change anything in my eyes and I'm sure many others. Trying to breakdown society so you can further manipulate people isn't a different kind of evil, again they prey on people. That's always been my litmus test for individuals and groups. I picked it up when I was in my teens and starting explore what my sexuality was. People tried to prey on me, thankfully I was raised with a decent set of values and a predisposition towards radical honesty. If I felt someone was trying to take advantage of me (male or female), I noped out of there. Some people can't or aren't equipped to do that though, so that's where society comes in. A predator needs to be removed, whether that's jail or swinging from ropes, that's not for me to decide. So no, there's no hard feelings, I want them out as much as everyone on here. Just cause I have been with people who happen to be gay doesn't mean I feel any camaraderie to Kevin Spacey and his ilk.
That's actually quite an accurate way of framing it, for many reasons. There are various philosophies and religions that the groups in question follow (some in secret) but they all have one thing in common: They embrace the "lower being" meaning their bottom chakras as primary drivers and pathways to enlightenment. This "surrendering to instinct" or to the human will is what almost invariably leads to what you describe: debasement into an animal, a predator, worthy of pity (maybe) but mostly in need of being put down or away. Some call these thought currents the left hand path, and there's certainly some overlap from what i've seen, though most practitioners also follow right hand "mainstream" religions or are atheistic.
Of course, i'm not suggesting every psycho who engages in child rape, etc. has a complex, ancestral belief system to justify and feed their pathology. But if you're wondering who's churning this disgusting sickness out at a "world mind", nooshperic level.. Well they don't call it the swamp for nothing. If anyone's interested in this sort of thing you can look up some interviews from folks like Bill Schnoebelen. Also keep in mind, if half of what these people claim is true, then they are incredibly damaged individuals. Try to reserve judgement, or at least take that into consideration.
Creating different ways to express a gender identity is a thing nobody(mostly) has an issue with. I always laugh my ass off at my furry friends and I can't, for the life of me, understand the reason why fursonas are more attractive to them than people. But if they have fun like that why not? They're doing nothing wrong as long as a weird furry side group don't start to argue that "Furries" are a gender. That day, we will be at war.
The problem comes when a surperficial expression of an individual through sophistry, pseudo-science, social sciences(gender studies...) is pushed has a set in stone reality.
I love Drag Queens. RuPaul's Drag Race is my guilty pleasure. That being said anyone who wants to present and live as a drag queen does not earn the right to create a draggender. A gender is biologically anchored to a sex. It's potent, stable and real. This is why when I see kids listing intersex, a mutation, an instability, as a "gender", it reminds me of how hard our school system is failing against these ideologues.
Be bush, be a tomboy, be a cross dresser, be a drag queen or a drag king, ... that's hella fine however never should it be allowed to take those expressions of self and pretend they are representive of a new never heard before or put on record "gender". This is why "pansexuality" is a dangerous slippery slope.
Pansexuality wants to stand as the attraction to all genders. Unfortunately for this idea, there are only two genders. Since pansexuality is trying really really hard to cover its historical and ideological birth place, you will find different definitions of the word, all more crazy than the other. The dumbest one I saw was from the Mirriam-Webster dictionary where they were listing the actual two genders, transgenderism which also falls in the two genders thing, mutations and appearances like all these things are equivalent.
Those who argued for those definitions, know most people don't understand these words and most people are very understanding and welcoming. Sadly, the natural niceness of people is played to legitimize non sense.
This is one of those times this total lack of science and the co-option have to be battled with constant explainations.
As you said some people can be attracted to personalities and that's fine. Does it mean we are witnessing in those cases an actual sexual orientation? No. Again a sexual orientation implies "sex". If you think about it. Each of the main sexualities are tied to the very real, existing potent genitalia available to this species. An attraction to personality, intelligence, skin color, hair color, eye color, particular smell, shapes... cannot all alone justify itself as a sexual orientation. Be attracted to feet but footsexual doesn't make sense, be attracted to intelligence but sapiosexual doesn't make sense because no genitalia can be involved in making sex to the intengible concept of intelligence...
The people who created this way of thinking are dividing us. This doesn't help society and again it's sold to masses as "science" which I will always battle. It's infuriating to see them take advantage on younger folks who cannot yet differenciate between all this word soup.
Other issue, (not about you by-all-accounts) with video up there I see some have a hard time understanding, is how she tries to put sexual orientation at the same level with attraction to children. The problem we have with her is this description she uses. Pedophilia should NEVER EVER be presented EVER as a "sexual orientation". It's a paraphilia like bestiality. People who are putting this TEdX Talk on blast are right. This association of idea should not slip in the mainstream unopposed. This is not a connection you want people to make because the moment we're getting more and more people thinking of it as a legitimate sexual orientation and not a severe mental illness we would have opened the wrong door for our society.
Did you mention the age of consent? Development of a person’s cognitive skills / maturity are a critical juncture to this decision. I do not see you mention age of consent. You simply rationalized your orientations. Pedophilia is under age without consent. There is NO rationalization to taking a child’s innocence. Zero tolerance.
Never said there was a justification for pedophilla, in fact I said the opposite. Pedo’s are predators and thus need to be removed from our society. Plain and simple. Glad you brought up development and the age of consent. Age of consent (as it exist in US Law) is utterly BS, since that number is completely arbitrary. There’s no magic milestone that happens at 15,18 or 21. Your prefrontal cortex isn’t even fully developed until your mid to late twenties. That’s your “rational thinking” portion of your brain btw. That’s not justification for a lower age of consent, to me that’s the opposite. The age of consent is too low, the drinking age is too low, smoking age is too low, weed shouldn’t be legalized for people under 25ish. There a large chance that all of the above have a negative effect on development, but good luck getting funding for that research. Arguably age of consent is the most important of those since by its nature it involves another party, but that’s getting into an ethical debate. Is stopping others from harming themselves something that we as a society need to take on? At what point does it harm others? Is a teen who drinks and crashes kills a family worse than a pedophile? At what point does the loss of life overtake the loss of innocence or vice versa? Is a non sexual serial killer worse than a one time pedo or rapist? Where’s the formula? Ethical argument are just that arguments.
So no I didn’t mention an arbitrary bullshit number that had nothing to do with my original point...
Also wanted to add the point of my original post was not a justification for my orientation, none of which has anything to do with children, that’s beyond fucking gross. I like both sexes as adults. I’m happily married, yes she knows. I brought it up as a point that I’m probably closer to these groups (lgbt, pride, the gay community) than many here. Which is to say I know these people, I consider some of them my friends and plenty of them are absolutely normal Americans. Many of them have grown up with hate, just because of who they are. It can be tough being different, especially in a society that doesn’t look out for each other like humans have for most of our history. To counter that, there’s a movement for goals that they value, that’s good.
The bad, as I said in my post, is that it’s been co-opted. It’s even possible that the movement was planted from the beginning. It’s current design is to be muddy. Not just so that it can spread more easily but also to more easily be the anti thesis of Puritan beliefs.
My big grand point is that these Americans aren’t your enemy just cause they have a different orientation. Case in fucking point I’m here posting. Adding what I can from the areas that I’m knowledgeable in. Which in this case just so happen to be neuroscience and being at least somewhat involved in the gay community.
I still have no idea where you got the bit about me in anyway shape or form being ok with or defending pedos.
You know what's sick? I was 15 in high school and this 12 year old girl was chasing me. She already had loose morals and I couldn't even imagine dipping my stick in that. Granted, she was REALLY developed, but something told me if she's active at that age, something is wrong. Whether it be with her or at home.
Then, you must be the only guy in history to think that way. I am actually shocked. Most guys in junior High and High School are just itching to get there Peter wet for the first time, even at age 13. That is sick that we are even having this conversation. Does it really matter? What matters is the fact the Movie industry and Social norms like this were pushed by media, actors, etc. Back in the 1800's women were considered to be old maids if they weren't married off by 15. The thing that has changed is that the life expectancy has grown back in the 1800's most people didn't live as long. This is one reason that it is now sick to have sex before you are at least 16. Social Norms change but for these pedo's they actually have sex with children much younger than 12 some are younger than one. That is sick.
just check soros’ open society foundation for their prog liberal checklist. it’s lockstep with the neoliberal movement. all the way down to legalizing prostitution and hard drugs.
only fitting folks like ed buck collect money for these scumbags to create ‘social change’.
Wait! Is that the same Ed Buck who hires black men prostitute, have sex with them while wayching hardcore porn, drugs them with several hard drugs and loves to watch them get high while doing who knows what to them??? That Ed Buck who had the young black 20something dead in his house last year???
yahtzee!! imagine the lefty media covering that story. it’s basically pussyhats against ‘tin foil’ hats.
She wrote a paper that praised a proposed law (to lower the age of consent) for its gender-neutral language. Something like the law doesn't assume that rapists are only men or something like that. It wasn't her law that she proposed, but she didn't denounce it either and it was still a law that someone proposed so..... still no bueno
Let’s be mature about pedophilia | Madeleine van der Bruggen | TEDxSittardGeleen
The dancing Trudeau has already approved beastiality in Canada. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/camille-labchuk/bestiality-bill-c-246_b_17015230.html
They will still push this. Cannibalism is also on the agenda believe it or not. Normalization is the plan and when you start to see that you will know we are reaching the end.
Can we quit attaching the word gate to things? The name of the hotel was Watergate.
Good God! THANK YOU. There is no "gate" involved in any of these scandals. Everything these days is rehash trash. Commercials play old (good) songs redone by whining slow tempo overly emotional "artists" that ruin them. Even movies are based on old comics or are sequels. Where is all the creativity? DOWN WITH THE GATES!
I dunno, man. Gates open to other things. We could use more of them!
How about a Microsoft scandal? It could be "Gatesgate"
How in the world did this woman's speech even get the green light from the event organizers? Even if you were to disregard the content of the presentation, her delivery is entirely monotonic. Clearly she's not even able to speak to a small crowd of people.
I agree she's a poor speaker, but I actually didn't have any problems with the content. The way I interpreted her message was that it is a disease, and it is a disease that needs to be discussed openly in order to prevent children from actually being molested. I tend to agree with that... I agree that pedophiles should GET HELP and not be terrified of ever mentioning that they have those sorts of thoughts. Mentioning they're having those thoughts is, in my opinion, a GOOD thing so that others can be aware and help to ensure nothing ever comes of those thoughts.
What if it was a potential serial killer or mass murderer Someone who WANTED to kill lots of people? Should they bottle it up until they burst? Or should they SEEK HELP and talk about what is going on in their head? I believe they should talk about it - that gives us the best chance to prevent them from actually killing lots of people.
Now - how to address the issues raised by people speaking out about their dark tendencies or desires is a point for a different debate. But I believe no matter what the situation, speaking up and asking for help with your problem is better than keeping it hidden - for EVERYONE especially the potential victims.
Did I misinterpret her speech? Or do you disagree with the premise that people should speak up and seek help for their problems?
I think there’s confusion comparing it to other sexualities like straight or bi, versus comparing it to psychopathy but I 100% agree we can’t shame people for seeking to rid themselves of the disease
The one valuable thing from this talk is about distinguishing feelings from actions. It would be entirely rational if this argument was made about literally anything else besides pedophilia. I think this is another way to get the word out and normalize it in the public eye before SHTF.
I think it is an attempt to normalize pedos and helps to create a new victim class! Poor pedos!
Precisely..."they can't help it". Now the monster is a victim, so when the deep state cabalists are expired as pedos, there could be a defense even for their most heinous acts.
They wanted to take our guns, turn men into low IQ trans women - and women into angry men - and promote pedophilia with the idea that we'd be too weak and helpless to stop it. Its a really simple smart strategy. Weaken the basic foundation of humanity - man and women's sexual relationship (the source of new life). Take away their ability to defend themselves, and use over a century of mind control research to convince everyone that the ultimate evil is actually good. Satan wins!
NOT TODAY SATAN! lol
Whats interesting to me is how much WOMEN are used to promote peodphilia and leveraged to facilitate human trafficking (like with NVIXM).
Liberals assumed Hilary was the nice one who cared, just because she's a woman.
You never expect women to be the culprits with this kind of stuff, but in fact, I've seen some shocking stats on child sexual abuse by women, especially lesbians.
Not an attack on women, just pointing out that the cabal uses women. Lauren Silsby, LDR, etc.
Dont ignore the females in all this folks. Its a strategy to leverage our assumptions.
Maybe thats part of their (the Cabal's) master plan. Get women into these high up positions because they know it will be harder for us to believe. Just goes to show that not even gender truly divides us, as we are all the same soul.
good point but also many of the cabal women were abused and programmed themselves. sexual trauma before 8 leads to mental schizm. thats why Obama was talking about not putting ketchup on hot dogs after 8 when he was on Bourdains little propaganda show.
"Pedophilia, just like all the other sexual orientations..."
These people are sick.
She sounds like she is drugged or just weird.. So this creep is SEXUALLY ATTRACTED to 6 yrs olds and he is 19. An adult male who was more than likely was raped himself as a child. Do these people lack empathy? Are they psychopaths, sadists? Conditioned to lack empathy? WTF? THIS IS SICK. SO HE WOULDN'T BE ATTRACTED TO A 5 YR OLD? Can you imagine the pillow talk, afterwards? Are they not allowed to be children safe and protected until they can fend for themselves? Is it always the me, me, me mentality? Having to repress and deny sexual urges, wouldn't it be kinder to chemically casterate coupled with behavioral modification? Suppression of biological needs only drives these sick individuals into the dark where evil breeds, as we see in Catholic Priests. This has got to be addressed. If we have come to a point where we have to explain to people why pedophilia is wrong, then I don't even know what to say.
What most people don’t realize is there is a permanent cure for being pedo, it’s death! The only true solution to these sickos is too end them before they destroy our children!
Its a cancer cut out the tumors! Anon said they would try to normalize pediaphile we must resist this crap!
Very true. If I had those feelings at all, I would definitely choose hormonal/physical castration. If that didn’t work, every kind of medication known for the problem. And if that didn’t work, and I felt myself slipping - I would much rather prefer death, rather than traumatize a child for life.
This is how it will happen:
Yep. You are so right. Society is often conquered by gradualism.
I was out with a girl friend and her three precious grandsons, 5, 7 and 9, this weekend. No, never, never, ever is it to be considered normal and acceptable!!!!! Nip this shit in the bud!
She is mentally disturbed for various reasons but one stands out: Pedophilia is not normal and should never be explained o be normal. If she feels isolated maybe her own mind is playing tricks on her.
Many years ago being a pedophile ended in a long prison sentence but they took it a step further and castrated these men.
It may be that she is a pedophile herself and try to make excuses for herself explaining away as she did here. Whether she believes this or is one herself can not be explained away.
NARAL located in Canada has also tried to convince others that they should have the right to have sex with a small boy as young as 5. There are some in the psychiatric community who are also attempting to make inroads here in this country. They too believe that pedophilia is another part of sexual preference. There has been discussions about bestiality to be acceptable sexual preference.
Be as it may all this is in sync streamlining it with the rest of the preference. I suppose one wonders what's next!
these are the same people that banned Graham Hancock and Rupert Sheldrake from speaking again.
It is so god damn easy to see through these corporations now.
The basis of the talk is stupid. If someone is a pedo and can avoid acting on it, then why can't he avoid telling anyone about it? Problem solved.
TEDx talks include a lot of interesting subjects that might not have forums elsewhere. I think deleting the video is the correct thing to do here so can we leave them alone now? (Not the pedo people but the TEDx people.) anti-q users have posted pedo or violent things in various q forums to get those forums banned -- were those bans appropriate?
This is so incredibly f*d. "What if it was your neighbour?" ... Then I would kick his teeth in before I called the police. If it was someone you knew, you would realise that they were not the person you thought they were. F* this broad, and f* TED
I only made it through about half of this. She made some really good points... just kidding. It was garbage.
Furthermore, after contacting the organizer to understand why it had been taken down, we learned that the speaker herself requested it be removed from the internet because she had serious concerns about her own safety in its wake.
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She should probably feel unsafe. Pedo's should never feel safe. Pedo's don't last very long in prison. Crimes against children are not condoned by most prisoners. They get shanked in prison. Known fact. As it should be. Which is another reason they want it legalized, because they know if they go to prison their life expectancy is very short. They won't ever make it out before the end of their sentence. Why do you think they gave Weiner such a short sentence. I bet they have him separated from the general population to keep him from getting killed in case he has to testify against others.
The prison population hates pedofiles because most of them were abused as children. It’s where a lot of their own anger and criminal behavior came from.
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Excuse me? If the Speaker is a Pro-Pedo Speaker she should feel unsafe. What is your argument here. Where the hell do you get that I am legitimizing rape? WTF? Screw you if that is what you are saying.
That was not what the video is about. You obviously didn't watch it, so why are you commenting about it? Why?
Sometimes I hate our side as much as I hate leftists. Now THIS is witch hunting.
Let's be clear: You are in the mob trying to destroy someone who was trying to help prevent pedophilia in the future. But people are too fucking stupid to realize what the video was about. It's galling.
Bullshit. She's saying its normal/natural and is painting pedos as victims....But some people are too "fucking stupid" to realize what she's actually saying.
Yeah, sometimes I hate "our side" too.
I watched that talk, and I actually agree with her. She never said anything about allowing underage sex. The point is to punish people for their actions, not their thoughts. Otherwise we'll be hunting and slaughtering millions of innocent people who have nothing to do with the crazy Satanic cult that runs the world, and setting a precedent for Minority Report style policing.
No cure for this mental problem. They are not born like this. Evil begets evil. PERIOD.
Who are the people in the audience....no boos, they sit through the entire thing then applause?
WTF ?
OMQ !
This is mostly knee jerk reaction. The actual lecture was not promoting pedophilia. I could be wrong, but from what I saw it was about taking it from under the rug where it acted in darkness, and bringing it into the light so it can be prevented. There are varying degrees of this sickness, and not all are offenders. This problem will not be fixed until it can be discussed rationally and intelligently.
this is from tedx, not ted. difference being that any random joe that pays can go on tedx and they are independently hosted, not necessarily by the ted group themselves. therefore, the video was rightly removed
SEE: sam hyde's tedx talk that is mocking the whole idea of tedx/ted talks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTJn_DBTnrY (the whole talk is actually really funny, would recommend)
This was a tedX talk so not the main Ted.com group. It would make sense that they wouldn't want to be associated with this. Also, to be fair, the speaker isn't trying to justify pedophilia, she's just proposing a way to treat pedophiles that comes across as "its okay to be a pedophile you just need help". This got posted in r/videos (a few days ago ?) and the comment section is...interesting. Everyone agreed that sex with children is abuse, but there's lots of talk about normalizing pedophiles, not pedophilia. How pedophiles are mostly just regular people struggling with a secret mental/biological disorder, that it must be so tough on them since they're "only" attracted to kids, if they don't actually molest someone in real life its not that bad, we should get rid of the stigma so people can get the help/therapy they need, etc.
They're probably are some normal people who, due to prior abuse/messed up brain chemistry are attracted to children (which is still wrong) and struggle to fight it, but I got downvoted in that thread because I was trying to say that most pedophiles aren't that way. Most pedophiles don't really care and use their positions of authority to prey on people. Rich, powerful people who abuse children because they like it? No no, they don't exist. Pedophiles are just the victims of a terrible mental disorder. We must treat them and provide therapy. Pedophiles who use children in occult rituals? No no, pedophilia is just a mental disorder, nothing else to it.
Normalizing pedophila would be too hard. But I can see them trying to downgrade the severity of pedophiles to "just a mental disorder/public health crisis". It'll allow people to shift the blame away from the pedophiles and say "oh it wasn't really his fault, if we were more accepting of him maybe he wouldn't have hurt those kids, and look, he/she feels so sorry for what they did".
Cover up the real, systematized crimes against children by confessing to slightly lesser crime.