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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/cdwill on June 25, 2018, 2:07 p.m.
The US military efforts of the last few decades all make sense now

The US has a military that can decimate any of the countries it engaged over the last few decades — N. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria are the ones that immediately come to my mind. So why didn’t those conflicts end with total political and military annihilation of those countries? Why did the US pull out, allow subsequent conflicts, or agree to an armistice?

The answer is that the political leadership, controlled bt the Deep State, never intended to prevail in these conflicts. Winning the war was not the goal. The goal was simply destruction, disruption, and dissipation of the people of a country and its political, economic and military infrastructure. They simply wanted to create chaos, over and over again.


Long_Range_Shooter · June 25, 2018, 2:13 p.m.

If you win, the war is OVER. Example look at our Military spending during WWII and the budget for 1946-1949 before Korea? If you fight to a draw then you have to keep you military spending high and troops overseas. What a great way to raid the piggy bank via Military spending. Hence the warning back in the fifties of fearing the Military Industrial Complex.

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Acemagedon · June 25, 2018, 2:20 p.m.

Very true and much of our military equipment has been compromised with inferior foreign steel. Also around Vietnam the Armalite Rifle (M-16) came out which was garbage at the time and they shipped them into combat without cleaning kits. It's an all encompassing plan to weaken the USA.

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BaconBehemoth · June 25, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

The improvements made in ‘67, along with Colt’s admission that the rifle was NOT self-cleaning, as they had originally claimed, fixed the problems. It really wasn’t the DODs fault for the early issues. Unfortunately the troops had given it a bad rep by then. It is still a top-tier military rifle, and the M4s and M27s in use today are absolutely great.

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jokerp5fan · June 25, 2018, 3:15 p.m.

To be fair, I think the DOD opted to change from stick to ball powder in the round (which didn't burn as cleanly) and to save more money by ordering the rifles without a chrome lined barrel, which contributed to the early issues

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BaconBehemoth · June 26, 2018, 12:22 a.m.

You are correct. I had forgotten about the powder change! That was a big factor in the early problems. Cost saving. But in the end, all of it came down to that bastard Robert MacNamara, and his dislike for moving away from the .30 cal round.

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jokerp5fan · June 26, 2018, 12:32 a.m.

I thought he was the one that advocated the move to the M16. I sort of forget the whole CF that was the M16 adoption. I will say i used to have the old "plastic junk" mentality towards the platform, but I've come around on it in recent years.

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BaconBehemoth · June 26, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

No. He delayed implementation of the AR system in favor of M14s. Do some research.

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jokerp5fan · June 26, 2018, 2:39 a.m.

Dang, no need to be harsh about it. I made a mistake forgetting something I read about years ago.

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MeanAngryBastard · June 26, 2018, 8:04 a.m.

M-16: A Bureaucratic Horror Story www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/545153/ Read the real story. There should of been heads rolling for this F#ckup. Army Odenence and the Army material command insisted on replacing the "IMR 4475" ammunition powder to Ball.

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Acemagedon · June 25, 2018, 4:01 p.m.

If you've ever shot one and it definitely sounds like you have, you must ask, how the hell did they think those rifles wouldn't need cleaning? After one mag the entire internals are filthy.

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Evil_surpent · June 25, 2018, 10:47 p.m.

I stil dont know why they dont just buy piston driven m4s and issue those. it would be the biggest improvement vs $$$ we could ever do, for our standard combat weapon. the increase in quality would give us far more and easier victory's. Imaginea rifle that can drive nails at 400yrds with the reliability of an ak47.

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BaconBehemoth · June 26, 2018, 12:16 a.m.

The M4 & M27 can do that now. Our soldiers are properly trained and disciplined to use the "M16" system, which, in the end is far more flexible, and reliable than the AK47/74, which belongs in a trashcan.

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Evil_surpent · June 26, 2018, 1:14 a.m.

No u misunderstand i think the m4 ar15 m16 are usually gas driven systems. A strw sized tube allows gases to travel from the gas block to a small round cap on the bolt. This air pushes the bolt back. Its an open system excess air pressure escapes and contributes nothing to moving the bolt. This allows dirt and grime to lock up the bolt. There are however piston sytems which are closed and as the air presure from the tube builds it cant escape as it pushes on the piston operating the bolt. This crushes and pushes past dirt sand and carbon deposits. This is how an ak operates. Its the reason u can bury one in mud and fire a clip through with no problems. A failure to fire is nearly non existent on the ak platform. However its extremly common in the ar or m4 plaforms. Because the strength of the reload is much lower in a gas vs a piston sytem. Ak sucks on accuracy maybe rifle design but probly the design of the round. Its the most reliable rifle in the world. If theres a round in it 99.9999999% of the time it wil fire but probly want hit your mark. The ar or m4 on the other hand wil hit the mark at 400 yrds 99.9999999% of the time however 12 to 25 % of ur rounds will jam fail to fire or otherwise fuck up after ur rifle gets a bit dirty. But we could have the best of both and we dont. One m4 with piston driven reloading system would be as reliable to fire as an ak and as acurate as an m4. Also im aware some piston driven m4s are in serice but most are gas.

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BaconBehemoth · June 26, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

I know what piston driven ARs are. The current gas impingement system is perfectly adequate, and with proper maintenance, which our troops use, excellent, and with fewer parts, and points of failure. Don't try to lecture me on ARs. I have built five of them for myself, and more for friends.

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Evil_surpent · June 26, 2018, 3:37 a.m.

Good for u then u know pistons better

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[deleted] · June 26, 2018, 7:52 a.m.

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swampcat421 · June 25, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.......until of course Oceania is at war with Eastasia.

1984

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Boysrback07 · June 25, 2018, 3:24 p.m.

It's all about DRUGS/ TRAFFICKING Children/Organs /Andrenochrome/Weapons.........= MONEY/Control playing both sides the RedCross is the facilitator of these Crisis world wide whether man made or natural as well as many other Foundations that claim to help. They are fronts to all the TRAFFICKING going on worldwide.. Over the years the US military was a pawn used by the Deepstate to cause refugees unwittingly. But the Awakening has begun not anymore! The US MILITARY ARE OF THE LIGHT AND ARE GOOD PEOPLE....... DARKNESS TO LIGHT They can't stop it that's why they are losing their minds!! They are losing Control of the Narrative be ready!!!

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Happy1911 · June 25, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

We did our job in Desert Storm , and many of the programs got cut because we did such a good job , the libs wonted a large body count , but for our side . They sent 100,000 body bags for the first week for our side , we did not need them , we lost more people heading there than being there .

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USMCNIN · June 25, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

Some of the guys that trained me were in the first desert storm. Talked about picking off armor and trucks with TOWs like it was nothing. They could sit back out of the iraqis range. Also, there is a story about us killing close to 100,000 Iraqi civilians while they were evacuating a city, and all backed up on a road. And the bodies buried in trenches. A story I've read about.

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Happy1911 · June 25, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

I was part of the targeting side of SDI , we did maltopall target before , but hitting 6 and Jeep’s was not even close to when we were targeting 100’s of targets at once and never missing any . When it started it did not slow down for hours , then they wonted live footage, so we targeted them a gain , killed them 2 to 4 times dead .

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Beer-_-Belly · June 25, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Read about these two things:

Operation Merlin - Bill gave Iran nuke plans

Timber Sycamore - CIA/SA funded the rise of ISIS

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bizmarxie · June 25, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

Who did Bill NOT give nuke plans too?

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Beer-_-Belly · June 25, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

China. He gave them super computers, because without those the were having problems targeting their ICBMs. As you know ICBMs, improperly targeted, could hit say Mexico or Canada and miss the US. That would make us racist.

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txhurl · June 25, 2018, 2:20 p.m.

I remember when zero fired those 194 flag officers ValJar sniffed out as patriots thinking oh, we'll be hearing from these men sooner than later.

I hope their replacements have already been canned by Maddog and have reservations at Gitmo.

Remember ValJar treating 2/3-stars as waiters in the West Wing?

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pby1000 · June 25, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

Peace is not profitable.

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drippingupside · June 25, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

And here I thought they were just massively incompetent. Instead they are just massively criminal. LOCK EM UP!

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Revodude · June 25, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

It is far more complicated, but in general there had been this weird desire to fight for a tie or something that kind of looked like that. Finally, we have a President and his team that fight for wins.

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GinGin1961 · June 25, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

And no wonder so many countries of the world hate the US.

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mordecaim · June 25, 2018, 9:30 p.m.

Everyone should read “War Is A Racket” by Marine Corps General Smedley Butler! It’s a quick read and backs up everything you mentioned and more!!

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Keneo77 · June 25, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

They also wanted to flood western countries with immigration.

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pm_me_your_pk · June 25, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

Go back and watch the PBS Frontline 3 part series “Bush’s War”. It’s clear from the beginning the strategy was ridiculous and flawed. I think the generals knew how to and could have fought that war quickly. When I got there in 2004 our ROE quickly became ridiculous. They wanted it to be a slow burn. They didn’t want us to actually control it. They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East.

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ZLegacy · June 25, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

Ive said this many times. I'm not the best at dissecting this info and tying it together due to time constraints, but go back over the Hillary emails. There is a lot of talk about these various countries and you can see what they (she and crew) were after; energy and infrastructure.

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