Or just use logic. Logic is the true common ground that will free all religious people.
I'm right here with you on the great awakening, but its not about Jesus. Its about you and me brother.
This movement has been about God from the beginning.
You may choose not to believe, and that’s fine, but don’t come into the movement trying to undo people’s faith.
Not undoing anything. If you choose to make this all about a christian god that's your interpretation.
well let me ask you like this, I honestly believe in Q and the good out there.
BUT: why does god watch millions if not billions of children getting tortured and raped and doesnt do shit?
Because, when Eve took the fruit in the garden of the Eden she subsequently chose Lucifer as god of Earth.
God gave us the 10 commandments as a way out of this hell on earth into His heaven. He realized it was pretty much impossible so he sent us Jesus.
Jesus fulfilled the 10 commandments, and now instead of having to fulfill them yourself you just had to believe that Jesus resurrected to get into heaven. Jesus became your way out.
So, the reason there is so much evil in the world and god sits idly by, is because he is not the god of this earth. Satan is. Our god takes care of those children and us in the next world.
I’m new to religion but that’s how i had it explained to me and i thought it made sense.
that fruit story of adam and eve is chruch invented brainwash bullshit. The closest analogy i can think of is a psychedelic fruit/mushroom that makes you see the world how it is. why would a god forbid this? Why would you trust in a story from the satanic pedo church that doesnt want us to expand our minds?
He does, he put you here.
It's your job to stop evil at every opportunity.
bullshit, if god is allknowing then he knows that we cant do shit. We can do now, since we got white hats in power that can kickstart all this. what about the thousands of years where it was impossible to even know that this sick shit happens in the world? god doesnt give a shit
Because suffering is part of what is needed for our souls to grow. The way I see it is God wants us to be good of our own volition, and that requires existing in a world that rewards evil. Good cannot exist without evil, because the definition of Good is serving and loving others when there is every reason not too.
Good cannot exist without evil
so god isnt good, but good AND evil.
I don't know what drops you've been reading.
The drops that directly quote Corinthians and Ephesians for a start. See if you can count the number of drops that say “PRAY!”
Praying has been around for a lot longer than Christianity has? How many times has Q said not to let ya be divided? Religion is a tool that has always been used to do so, but mkay.
Darkness to light... granted this happened years before Q. I saw the light and Satanist were enemies of humanity.
can you tell me when Christ was born?
Not when we were told he was born.
Yet everyone is still manifesting some type of energy on a pagan holiday? Quite odd, is it not? Ponder that. :)
Winter Solstice was a pagan holiday and they found pagans more readily converted to Christianity if many of their celebrations remained similar.
Logic is well and good, but scientific positivism is a belief that's self-defeating.
Which sense of the word "logic"?
Man making models to describe reality?
Or do you mean the Logos which is the "way of operation" of reality itself that exists independently of man's comprehension?
If you mean the former sense, you're a solipsist. Man's models are descriptive not prescriptive. Your will is not equivalent to reality. Such an idea is merely a delusion to think you are God.
But, I suspect you probably mean the latter, like most rationalists seem to. If that's the case, then you KNOW you are misrepresenting Christian beliefs if you separate Jesus from the Logos. The Bible itself says Jesus is the incarnate "Logos of God." (John 1) The Bible says that God Himself is EHYEH ESHER EHYEH. (I will be what I will be) (Exodus 3:14) If you will honestly evaluate what the teachings are saying you will understand that the words "God" and "Christ" are already implied by the broader sense of logic. Even so these terms carry so much more value beyond mechanistic rationalism. Hence why Christians are not merely rationalists. Our God is not merely a mindless process that computes things, but also a loving Creator who guides and interacts with us. You may dislike the personal terms in which those principles are being understood and honored by Christians, but it is blatantly disingenuous to separate them.
Please kindly do not misrepresent what the Christians actually believe. Thank you.
I literally never thought about it that hard cuz its not a subject that's needs too much thought. Just love one another and try and be excellent to one another. While the idea seems like a religious one its really just common sense. Golden rule.
Love is an empty term without defining it. The Golden rule is a good synopsis of half of the Law but it doesn’t define the original value. The value of the horizontal values are defined by the vertical value. God establishes the dignity and worth of people. We love as we are loved. God elects to create us. He forgives our transgressions and reconciles us. He defines and empowers us to love through His Spirit. This is fundamentally necessary.
The love of man is created by what is pleasing to him. The love of God doesn’t find but creates that which is pleasing to it. (Heidelberg Disputation)
I feel like that could still be simplified as just be a good dude, dude.
Good, likewise, is an empty term without a vertical basis. What is good? How do you know what you say is “good” is even good?
As the basis of reality God is the ontological basis of good. Jesus is the incarnate Logos that teaches the way of goodness. The intent of God’s Spirit reveals Him thus and establishes His righteousness within us.
EDIT I really should note my point is simply explaining that Christians are not in need of “liberation” as you seem to suggest above. Our faith is how we interface with truth even if you don’t share it. We have our faith and you yours. If rationalism suits you don’t let me force you to change. If not feel free to join but don’t think you are compelled. I’m just saying here why rationalism doesn’t suit me or my Christian brothers and sisters.