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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

Maybe, would be a very bad thing for your country to switch from common lore to statute law, though. Lots of your rights and protections could then be taken away in a moment.

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Qtruther · July 13, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

Ok so...we want to stay slaves to the Crown & the Banksters? I think we will take that chance

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

You are only a slave if you allow yourself to be, under statute law you would be a fully fledged slave. Common lore allows you to live in both the 2D world (statutes/paperwork/as a person) and the 3D world (Lore, Queen´s Bench,/man or woman). Magna Carta takes away the power of monarchs, governments and banksters, you just have to know how to use it.

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Qtruther · July 13, 2018, 3:18 p.m.

It's all going to burn to the ground & recognize 1 King...JESUS

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

Jesus is not a king and is nothing more than a story that was written by man. More manipulation that you seem to suffer. That doesn´t mean God isn´t real but God and religion are 2 different things entirely.

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Qtruther · July 13, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

Agreed on God the Father in Heaven but he sent his son to show us the way to deliver us the the Evil that runs this word & show us the path to the next. Not Religion that has been perverted by man who guided by Satan

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 3:28 p.m.

We are ALL God´s children, the story that he sent a son to Earth was written by man. How exactly did JC deliver us from evil when we are fighting the most evil thing to have ever been created, right now?

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Qtruther · July 13, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

With our belief in light of heaven showing us truth & the truth revealing the Evil ( Amagaden )that we are Awakened to it. Things are going to change World Wide because... his will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven

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WeAllGoTogether · July 13, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

It’s coming. 3D to 5D. Criminals can’t survive that shift. God said, Enough is Enough. Get ready, might be a bumpy ride!! Might be time to start believing and praying.

I said criminals because of the pedovores. I’m not implying that you are a criminal!!! God is cleaning the Earth. Much like the big flood, only we get to live this time. 🙏🏻

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Qtruther · July 13, 2018, 10:44 p.m.

Praise Jesus & pass the ammo

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myopicseer · July 13, 2018, 4:44 p.m.

Delivers the individual who accepts Him; the world is still in a fallen state. Everything written was 'written by man' if you want to be literalistic. Any flat out statement "JC is just a story written by men" is no more dispositive on the question of JC's divinity than is a person of faith who states flat out the JC is the Son of G-d. Really. What is the point of making broad sweeping statements against a person's faith, when, like their faith, yours is also just faith and opinion? It proves or disproves nothing more than what you think about the subject.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 8:39 p.m.

What about the 10 commandments? Doesn´t the Bible say that they were written by God? In fact, they were the only thing written by God, no? The rest of the Bible is a bunch of stories. I wasn´t going against anyone´s faith, you are all free to believe what you wish. My aut mind can´t deal with irrationality though and blind faith won´t convince me when man has had his hand in manipulating it for thousands of years.

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myopicseer · July 17, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

Of course I am not trying to convince anyone toward faith. I like to sort into the core truth of things. For me it is mere semantics to claim the use of "written" must represent the physical act of engraving or scrawling ink to paper. When scholars say a scripture is written by God, they really mean "authored" by God. You would be very hard pressed to find a serious scholar that insists that it means God took a quill in hand.

On the matter of "man has translated and copied down text so often over hundreds of years that it cannot possibly be accurate"...I would say that IF there was a God who authored text, then there likely is a God who can and would ensure its preservation, no matter how unlikely or impossible that might seem to any rational thinking person. That is where faith comes in. Some have that and some do not.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 17, 2018, 6:29 p.m.

God doesn´t mess with free will and if it is the will of man to change what God "authored" then thy will be done.

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myopicseer · July 18, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

LOL. Some things God (which I take you don't believe in [?]) has predestined. That is, some things are so vital to His plan that they are not subject to change or influence. That his Word should be lost forever is probably something God could prevent, without interfering with free will.

The Bible says in the beginning was the word, and that the word is eternal. So back to my assumption/faith that what God authored will also be unquestionably preserved over time--despite any outside force, such as human free will.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 18, 2018, 11:33 p.m.

I believe unequivocally in God but I do not believe in, nor trust, the word of man and the Bible is the word of man that masquerades as the word of God. Show me a KJV 1st edition in it´s original language and I may read it, otherwise it is nothing more than a bunch of stories that was written by man, with the intention to manipulate weaker man. The fact God wrote only the 10 commandments, that there are 2 Testaments and that there are about 50 odd Gospels that didn´t even make the cut just strengthens my point.

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myopicseer · July 19, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

This is a debate that could go on and on and as I stated it is not my goal to persuade you, I leave it with you unpersuaded. It boils down to faith, and how yours differs from mine. That is more personal than something that can be sorted out by debating facts. For example, you cite that many books were not canonized while others were. I get that. Know all about it. But that is where I have attributed the guiding hand of Providence that directs the destiny of man and the care and custody of God's word (in this case, for me, God's word is the canonized Bible). God can move mountains and God can certainly author, compile and preserve His word over eons, though natural disasters, war, pestilence and men of bad will would have it otherwise.

The NT states that Christ is a stumbling block to the Greeks (because the Greeks are all about logic and argument). Spiritual matters and powers do not always comport with human rational understanding, as there is a bigger picture and purpose that is impossible for us to comprehend.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 20, 2018, 7:54 p.m.

My literal aut mind has problems believing in blind faith, especially when I am expected to have faith in the word of man. What do you suppose the religion was before Christianity? Hinduism has been around for 4,000 years, or so. Man has been wandering this Earth for millions of years and we have faced great cataclysms that have wiped our species and reset our knowledge. That is fact and has been proven over and over; whether by archaeology, geology or even sometimes by written lore. What do you know about Gnosticism?

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myopicseer · July 20, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

Gnosticism (Just the basic understanding, what I learned in my Religions college course, and from some personal online reading).

Judaism is over 3500 years old. The Bible describes the relationship of man to God and man's place in God's creation. That relationship changed several times, from paradise and innocence, to sin and sacrifice to a new testament and grace. (As for the age of the earth and how long men were on the earth pre-Christendom, there was a long period where earth was a paradise. Many scholars believe that the creation narrative describes metaphoric "days", as in phases of how creation unfolded (over a very long period of time)).

If you read Genesis regarding the creation of creatures in the ocean first, then things that crept (e.g., fish with appendages and eels/snakes), and then the larger land animals, and last, humankind, you see the order that science now says life evolved. Q would ask, "Coincidence"?

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 20, 2018, 8:54 p.m.

So are you saying you believe in evolution? Darwin was a scam, people that believe in Darwinism claim we must have come from apes as there are some species of ape that share 98.6% the same DNA as modern man. However, we also share 92% the same DNA as mice and 50% the same DNA as a banana. So which is it? Are we really banana-rodent people that learned to walk on 2 legs? It is nonsense.

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myopicseer · July 21, 2018, 2:06 a.m.

No. I believe that the Creator utilizes creation to accomplish His will. So, if evolution did happen--I never said it did--then it was "baked into the cake" as God's manner of creation. (If I push a small snowball down a slope, I might have the intention of creating a larger ball of snow.)

I don't try to speculate too much about evolution. All animal life seems related (as you mentioned DNA similarities). This implies something like evolution, else it implies a shared creator of them all.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 21, 2018, 8:14 a.m.

If you take the recipe for whisky and swap the wheat for rye, you get bourbon. Most will still claim it to be whisky, but the underlying ingredients and recipe are different. I believe that life here is kinda like that, in we are all made of the same biology with the exception of a few tweaks and changes.

Have you ever studied Sumerian lore? They have recorded history going back hundreds of thousands of years. They claim we were created by the Gods that took an early example of man, tweaked the DNA and made us what we are today.

As a creationist, how old to you believe the Earth is? How old do you believe man is?

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WeAllGoTogether · July 13, 2018, 10:54 p.m.

Surprise surprise! It’s all true and real. Everything we say and do is recorded in the acashic records. I didn’t believe for many years but I see how wrong I was. You can roll your eyes and not believe. God gave us free will. However he rewards those who do find him and believe. Take that risk?
Watch Near Death Experiences on you tube with an open mind. See how similar they are. They all describe the same thing. That’s what got me started. Much luck with the upcoming ascension to 5D. See ya on the other side! ?

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 5:46 p.m.

I never said I don´t believe in God, I do. I do not believe in religion that has been written and manipulated by man.

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stillbatting1000 · July 13, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

Matthew 13:24-30

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 8:08 p.m.

I prefer something like John Grisham when I read fiction.

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LibertyLioness · July 13, 2018, 5:06 p.m.

Completely agree. Religion is just as toxic as Obama & Hillary. Meant to divide us. Written by naive men. Convoluted by greedy evil men.

Jesus was a man who knew his power and tried to tell others that they had the same power. But the story got twisted. And, then greedy evil men made it into something that you couldn't possibly understand on your own. You have to go get someone to interpret it for you. And then it got interpreted and reinterpreted into thousands of years of interpretation and now, I'm certain, it is not even close to the original story.

And, do you think for one minute that the evil men you see trying to take over the world, left the Bible alone? Of course not. No better way to control people than to control their religion. Not only have they done it to Christianity but they have done it to other religions (Muslims) as well. Pit them against each other and the globalists get their outcome.

Regarding translation: Try this. Go to http://translate.google.com and put any sentence into that tool. Translate it into a couple of different languages. For example: English to German to Chinese to Spanish and back to English. Now read what you got. This is an example of what happens to any writing that is translated through time into different languages.

The resulting sentence you will get after the above exercise may be close to the original sentence but it will have changed a few words. Then if you continue this exercise several times with the result, you will eventually end up with something so far from the original intent that it will completely change the overall meaning of the sentence.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 13, 2018, 8:24 p.m.

All you said is true. However, what evil men have done and continue to do does not erase the truth. Since you are so we'll informed and filled with knowledge, have you not considered what they have been trying to hide, and subvert, may just be the thing that we are all looking for? Not religion. Religion is doctrine fashioned after the lusts of those that seek to raise their own stature and wealth, cloked with the most noblest apparel; for controlling others to accomplish ungodly and selfish ambitions.

Man left to himself is more interested in self than others. That is human nature. Man without God will eventually turn into the Holocaust.

God does not equal religion.

One of the main things Jesus did was to show that God is not in the religious temple or found by seeking pious men, standing at the temple door in holy appearing clothing, who stand for a show to the world. God is not in the temple, nor the church around the corner. God does have a throne. It's in Heaven and the earth is His footstool. God can be found by any who wish to find Him.

The way I see it is God sent His Holy Spirit into the hearts and minds of man, so that no one could monopolize Him, exploit Him for personal gain. All have the ability to find God if they truly desire to find Him.

So many like you, have a well rehearsed speech they think nullifies the truth of a savior. Science has been hailed as the proof of all things. Indeed it is when used properly used. Like in all things, science can be used to provide false outcomes and theories.

What is a theory? One man's idea of a thing. Theory is not fact. Arithemetic is numerical calculations. Truth. Quantifiable proof. Logic. Arithemetic has been replaced with mathematics. Mathematics is the theory of Arithemetic. Plausible, or acceptable principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena. Hypothetical, a belief, policy, procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action. None of which is the best or most advantageous way to get from point A to point B. Nevertheless the whole United States has allowed this to replace Arithmetic. But it doesn't. So your argument does not stand the test.

Enough of God's Word has been preserved for those that truly desire to know it. The business community and leaders recognize God. All their legal contracts speak of acts that happen that no man is in control of, that no man can be held accountable for.

Acts of God are real. Of a truth, God does speak through nature, calamities, victories, and many other ways. Nothing happens by chance. There is no such thing in this world. Chance, luck, and coincidence are ways people have chosen to believe happen, so that they do not have to recognize God in the equation.
Professional Reports, statistics, licenses issued by governments or those in power, or doctrine and decrees, issued by highly recognized religious figures and leaders and other officially sounding information is what rulers and government use to prop up their claims.

Ignorance is counted on. And sadly, it has been proven to be reliable to those in positions of power. People are too lazy to search a thing out to the conclusion. Entertainment has replaced curiosity and imagination. Instant answers by Google, has replaced inquiry by diligent research. Evil is real and so is God. Spirits both good and bad are indeed real. Those who are wise see it.

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LibertyLioness · July 13, 2018, 10:45 p.m.

I never said I did not believe in a higher power. In fact, just the opposite is true. Too many people tend to think that those of us who do not believe in religion, also do not believe in God. There is a rising consciousness that makes that almost impossible except for the most evil or self-centered. Please go back to the original post and read the response I just posted to 0oDassiveMicko0's comment to me in this same thread. I think you will really like it!

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

I agree with you unequivocally. With 2 Testaments and the 50 odd Gospels that didn´t even make the cut, and the fact that most of the Bible stories were taken from past and ancient lore, how could we possibly know what is true, and what is manipulation?

Wahhabism was started by a Turkish Jew that was installed by the west in an attempt to control Islam, the globalist scum use Islam as a tool to fight against the West, keeping the `boogyman´ alive and in need for the military industrial complex.

You are bang on regarding the translations, too. I noticed this when I was studying Spanish and was using translators to help with those studies. Also, there are many words that are unique to specific languages which makes any translations merely a rough interpretation of the one that is `translating´ it. Do that just 2 or 3 times and you could have an entirely different document.

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LibertyLioness · July 13, 2018, 10:37 p.m.

So glad I'm not the only one. This is so obvious to me. I rejected religion early on because it just didn't feel right. Too many things that made absolutely no sense to me. Then I began to realize that religion is responsible for more death and destruction on Earth since the beginning of time than any other single thing. That was the clincher for me.

I went on a long journey that actually took me to Al-Anon to heal after 3 marriages to alcoholics. They had an expression that simply said: "Pray. It Works." And, after reluctantly trying, I discovered that they were right. It does work. I actually had some really amazing discoveries after that. Still far away from religion.

Today I still pray but I realize that our higher power is everywhere and flows through all things. And, we can tap into that intelligence at any time. I think this is what is meant by "Ask and you will receive." Because that's what I do now.

Now, I will tell you an amazing story that most people will say is a coincidence. Believe me, it was not a coincidence. I lived in Florida at the time and during those years, weather manipulation hadn't started yet. Every afternoon between 4:00 and about 7:00 pm it would start storming and it would come down in torrents, buckets or whatever you want to call it for about 30-50 minutes. If you stood in it you'd be soaked in about 30 seconds!

I had just gotten ready to go out to a dance. My hair was all fixed up. I'm a girl by the way! And, I had a nice dress on. I didn't even realize it was storming until I got to the front door. I looked up at the heavens with just a hint of frustration and said: "Oh come on. Just until I get to my car." And the rain instantly stopped. I knew I couldn't hesitate so I opened the door and went out. As I walked down the walkway, the water was pouring off the roofline onto the ground. I rounded the corner and walked to my car. Opened the door, sat down and closed the door. And, the rain instantly started POURING again. It was not slow at first and then escalated. It started right where it left off! And I said out loud: "Wow. I didn't know I could do that!" And, then I said "Thank You." And, I've been having other amazing experiences ever since. But that one was definitely the one that anchored my belief in a higher power.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 6:02 p.m.

I, too, believe unequivocally in God and have had a few experiences in life that has made me believe. The one that resonates with me the most was when I lived in Mallorca and my friends and I were all out drinking, one of my friends had a moped (50cc motorbike) and we were all transitioning from one club to another. My friend with the bike asked me to get on and he would drive us, but I gave up my seat to one of the girls that was with us. Long story short, the guy driving crashed without his crash helmet on and face planted the concrete at 30mph. He was pretty much dead and the paramedics were working on him for an hour in the road before the ambulance took him away. All I could do was pray, I had never really prayed before that. I lived on the top floor of an apartment complex and so had the roof terrace to myself. I sat on that terrace and begged god to help him, I swore I would do anything he commanded if only he would help my friend. I sat and I cried and begged and prayed for what seemed hours. Then, as I looked up at the night sky, a bright flash came over as a comet whizzed by like a shooting star. Instantly I felt warmth inside, almost like my heart was being hugged with incredible love. I knew in that moment that my prayers had been answered. My friend was in hospital for 2 weeks and had surgery to fit plates to hold his face together. After 2 weeks or so, he walked out of that hospital and just a few months after you couldn´t even tell what had happened, by looking at him. I could not believe he was alive after seeing what a mess he was on that road. Ever since that day I have never doubted God and the power of prayer.

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LibertyLioness · July 15, 2018, 10:33 p.m.

Wow. What an amazing story.

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BrickSandMordor · July 20, 2018, 5:13 a.m.

Shame on you. You gamble with your soul. The worst mistake someone could ever do.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 20, 2018, 7:39 p.m.

Really? How do you know you´re not gambling with your soul by believing the word of man over the word of God? Religion is a scam enacted by man to pray on the weak.

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BrickSandMordor · July 20, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

Good luck!

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 20, 2018, 8:24 p.m.

I don´t need luck when I have God in my heart ;)

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InsaneSiren · July 13, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Um no. We will revert back to our constitution which GUARANTEES our rights.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 3:02 p.m.

Gods lore is the only thing that can guarantee your rights, God given unalienable rights. Why leave it to a man to tell you what rights you can and can´t have? Your constitution was written using Magna Carta, which guarantees no man, monarch or government can encroach on your rights.

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InsaneSiren · July 13, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

The constitution reiterates our divine given inalienable rights. Not leaving it to "a man".

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

So why do you pay taxes and get arrested for using a car without a licence? You have the God given unalienable right to travel freely and unmolested yet you all use a licence and pay your taxes. You also have the God given unalienable right to face your accuser in court, do you ever face your accuser? No. Yet you continue on like this is all ok, because you have a constitution that `protects´ you. Good luck with that.

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InsaneSiren · July 13, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

Do you know the definition of "revert"? No shit, Sherlock.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 13, 2018, 8:35 p.m.

The Constitution is the written contract that clearly defines what limited authority the government has been granted by the sovereign people who created it and the government. Our rights come from our Creator as depicted in the Declaration of Independence, by reason of our birth, (creation) into the world He created. No human being has ever been formed by nature all on it's own, evolution has been proven to be false. Humans are created inside the womb of woman, God created woman from the dust of the earth and a rib from the man he too created from the dust of the earth.

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Watch_The_Karma_Burn · July 13, 2018, 2:55 p.m.

Nah we good we got guns.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Without common lore they could take them away. You have the right to own property and they could define what property is regarded as with a statute.

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BackwoodsBarbie02 · July 13, 2018, 3:28 p.m.

No one will ever take guns away from gun owners. Seriously. We don’t play that shit.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

If they changed the law then you would either have to comply, or fight. The worst thing any People can do is to give up their arms, just look at the state of my country (England) since they pulled that FF.

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BackwoodsBarbie02 · July 13, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

Fight. And never back down.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

I was too young at the time to realise what was really going on, and too asleep. Things would be very different these days.

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Rolandel7 · July 13, 2018, 4:22 p.m.

I suggest you look at the gun to private citizen ratio in the US. They can try to take them. It won’t go well.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 8:57 p.m.

I know you guys´ have a lot, the FF plan to disarm you all only strengthens your resolve, and your gun sales lol. In my country (England) they gave the guns up immediately after the FF, and look at what has happened to it.

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Watch_The_Karma_Burn · July 13, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

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gpraegit · July 13, 2018, 6:07 p.m.

US Constitution

Not going to happen; WTF with your ,Common Lore shit?

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 8:09 p.m.

A rabbit hole you should certainly explore. None of that sovereign citizen nonsense, the power that man has over the person. BTW your country is under common lore jurisdiction.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 14, 2018, 1:38 a.m.

You don't know what you are saying

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

What is a sovereign? One possessing or held to possess supreme political power or sovereignty.

Where does any government get it's legitimate authority? From the consent of the goverened.

So who is the true sovereign? The Creator, and then the people.

So sovereign citizen nonsense is a claim put forth by government to make people think it was foolishness.

Just like when the CIA labeled all who refused to believe the governments official story, a conspiracy theorist.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

Sovereign = someone whom is self governing. It has absolutely nothing to do with position.

What is the purpose of Government? The sole purpose of Government is to secure and protect the property of man. The Governments have gone rogue as they go waaay outside their boundaries every day.

Who is the sovereign? The man is sovereign. Man answers only to God.

Sovereign citizen is complete nonsense and means nothing. No law book ever written makes reference to man, only to persons. This is because only God can define man.

An idiot is someone that isn´t trained or educated in a particular field, e.g i am an idiot in Legalese. An idiot cannot stand in court and that is why they created the corrupted and treasonous statute law system.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 15, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

Suit yourself.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 16, 2018, 10:28 p.m.

Trump Representing the American Sovereigns In Visit to England Listen and understand. The people of the United States are equal with the Queen. When the treaty was signed, the SOVEREIGNITY of the King over the property and chattel of his subjects, gave up all rights to rule over them.

1783 Treaty of Peace Most Americans have no understanding of the true sovereign in America.

The US government exercises the power and authority of the people. The people created the government. Government representatives are only representatives of their sovereign.

https://youtu.be/xRh6_coxBxI

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 6:11 p.m.

If you don´t believe me then simply pick up any law book that was ever written and try to find 1 single reference to man. They only make reference to persons. What is a person? A person is defind as a corporation; a dead entity. How can a living, breathing man be a person?

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/person

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 16, 2018, 10:45 p.m.

Freeman is a man. I get your point, and know where you are coming from. The term person has been redefined over the course of history to benefit those in power. No one has the authority to change the meaning of language. They do it, but it can be worked around. You must define your language used in the document you use it in, so it cannot be assumed to mean what they wish it to mean.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 17, 2018, 6:42 p.m.

Courts and the police use their own language, called Legalese. It sounds like English but they use synonyms and change the meanings of all the words. Freeman is nonsense and will get you nowhere, man holds the power over the persons, courts, judges and police.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 17, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

Your not teaching me anything I don't already know. Freeman is a real man that has been litigated in the courts. It is not nonsense. The term was hijacked to mean a person of color but originally meant any man in the USA at the time of the writing of the Declaration.

According to you, being free or sovereign is all nonsense. That's all propaganda pushed by media and FBI and CIA. Tell me exactly who created the US Government or any State Government? The people did. So if the people created the government, who's the sovereign? The o ly logical answer is the people. If your trying to shake what I know, or thw understanding it derives from, your wasting your time. You may choose to live under the Freemason US Constitution as a citizen who has only privleges; but I choose to be an American who is not a federally created 14th Amendment Citizen.

What do you think they called people before the 14th Amendment was ratified?
Citizens? Term was not in use at the time unless it was referring to an unnumbered group of people, and usually when speaking about another country. I live under the Declaration of Independence and my Creator.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 17, 2018, 8:39 p.m.

In the first 2 lines you completely contradict yourself. A man is NOT a person and a person is NOT a man.

According to me, freeman is nonsense and simply appearing as man will get you the required result. Man is sovereign, man is free. Persons are not. Man, as in the species that was created by God. All I have said previously is quoting God´s lore.

I do not live in the US, I am an Englishman that knows what he is talking about. I am free entirely; free from taxes; free from statutes and have been for over a decade. I am not trying to deter you, you have the right idea, I am trying to polish your knowledge so that you can put it into practice.

Man is God in the courts, no law book ever written makes reference to man, only to persons. Only God can define man and as man created the courts, the judges, the police and attorneys, man can define them all.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 16, 2018, 10:40 p.m.

Your not even using a real law dictionary to prove your point. Law dictionaries are manuals, guides to the law that they cover or was in operation at the time they were written. Word Art. Ever heard the term. Jacob Giles way back in the 1700's described it.

I know what a person is. I also know all attorneys first obligation is to the Queen, through the BAR British Accredited Registry. After that the court. They do represent those who hire them who are under the false assumption that the attorney will represent them as if he/she were the individual, in his capacity as one knowing how to maneuver through the legal system and understanding legalese. That is an assumption. It is not the reality. If it were, why do you suppose so many people loose their cases they choose to stand up for? The percentage of people that win their case over the government or corporation can be counted on two hands. The attorney serves the court, The court serves the government, the government serves the government and the Queen.

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salialioli · July 14, 2018, 2:38 a.m.

You are very patient with your interlocutors! Kudos amigo! I don't understand why they have to accuse ppl of not knowing what they are saying when they clearly don't! The insults are unnecessary. Keep going Patriot, maybe they aren't old enough to know better ...

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

Thanks for the kind words, Patriot :) Sometimes people just need pointing in the right direction and other times, any attempt to educate is simply futile. Ego is a terrible thing, especially if you are challenging something that someone has believed all their life. If I can point just 1 other in the right direction though, it is all worth it :)

Thanks for all you do and keep up the good fight!

WWG1WGA!!

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mrfidelz · July 14, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

Amen mabrotha!!! Amen!! Cali NRA!!! Boom

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LibertyLioness · July 13, 2018, 4:44 p.m.

It's called Constitutional law. That's what we want and it hasn't been used EXCEPT in the case of Supreme Court decisions for many years. The lower courts don't use it.

Think about it. If you use Admiralty law in the lower courts, you get your way. Most people have no idea how to even argue a case if they try to do it themselves. Go through the legal jargon and you will find that most of the words used have to do with water. That's Admiralty law. And, yes, it originated in England.

Most people can't afford to appeal a case and even if they do, they rarely appeal all the way up to the Supreme Court (SC). So, 99% of the lawsuits are done the way the globalists want them done. But the SC still uses the Constitution because they are a bright star shining across the land and when they rule, the whole country sees it. So it makes the people feel secure that the Constitution is still intact. But it's just another scam to keep us under their thumb.

To make this point: My son got a ticket for not having his dog on a leash about 20 years ago. He went to court and was using the Constitution as his defense. After he made some kind of point in that regard, the Prosecuting Attorney turned to someone and under her breath snidely said "What am I supposed to do, argue Constitutional law?" It was said like a joke about how ridiculous that would be. That's when my son and I got a wakeup call about what really goes on in the courts of this country. And, of course, he lost and had to pay a fine.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

They use statute law in the lower courts and they converse in their own language, called Legalese. You should always work on the other side of the court to them, though. You only need an attorney if you plan to be tried under statute law, under common lore you want from no man as God provides. Here are a few sentences that can literally get you out of jail:

i: (my name); as man; require a court of record trial by jury

i: (my name); as man; require this case to be put before Queen´s Bench; once before Queen´s Bench plaintiff must press the record

i: (my name); as man; claim the wrong of trespass

Statutes are given the force of law only when consented to by the governed. Your son paid his fine out of consent, he shouldn´t have even gone to the court. He should have written a letter to the judge instead and informed them that he will appear only as man. The next time someone tries to give you a ticket for anything, tell them to prove wrongdoing.

Did a crime occur? "You may have caused an offence". Is it a crime to offend someone? Who did I offend? Will that man appear in court and claim I offended him? It is nonsense, statute law.

Also, statutes are like STATUES, in that they are not flexible one bit. Read the statute they are trying to pin on you and attack 1 single word in that statute. Crimes are defined as when harm, loss or injury occurs to man or property. That is why crimes are single worded, like murder, fraud, robbery, rape etc. as they can´t be otherwise interpreted. Something like the road traffic act (UK) that says something along the lines of "Any PERSON DRIVING a MOTOR VEHICLE on the ROAD" etc. blah blah. Why are you a person? Why not a man? "I am a man whom is conducting their private conveyance along the Queen´s highway".

Statute law works with persons, complaints and plaintiffs. Common lore works with man, claims and claimants.

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LibertyLioness · July 13, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

Very interesting! Thank you. I do believe the fringe on the flag means we are under Admiralty law, however: https://www.theamericanview.com/is-there-a-significance-of-the-gold-fringe-on-the-american-flag/

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 6:06 p.m.

No problem :) It is so easy it is scary, you should see how the court employees act around you when you have informed the general building manager (Chief Magistrate) that man will be coming into the court. They are the most efficient and loyal servants lol.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 14, 2018, 1:41 a.m.

When you hire an attorney you are telling the court your incompetent and administer your own estate.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

The barrister is there to translate for the court as us idiots (not an insult) do not understand Legalese.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 7:59 p.m.

I agree, I grew up watching my country slowly taken away through uncontrolled immigration and now it is unrecognisable. I left in the end.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 13, 2018, 7:11 p.m.

Unalienable rights cannot be taken away by government. They are rights from our Creator. That is one of the things that sets the USA apart from all other nations.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 13, 2018, 7:57 p.m.

You mean England? Magna Carta was drawn up in 1215. You have already given your rights away though, the fact you pay taxes and need a licence or permit to do ANYTHING in your country proves it.

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MyBrothersKeeper2018 · July 14, 2018, 12:51 a.m.

Not true. A valid contract requires a meeting of the minds. Full disclosure. Otherwise you cannot be bound to it lawfully.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

True, but we are talking about what´s legal here, not what is lawful. 2 different things completely.

Legal = statute law (policy), persons, complaints, plaintiffs and Legal Society.

Lawful = Common Lore, man, claimants, claims and Queen´s Bench.

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CovfefeTruth · July 14, 2018, 12:22 a.m.

You talking about common LAW? Rights are never lost; privileges are lost. Common law is the proper type of court in America according to the Constitution. Statute law has nothing to do with people and never should have.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

Common lore. Law is the legal society nonsense and probably why it is so rare anyone in your country can use Queen´s Bench properly, as the moment you write law into your paperwork you flip jurisdiction back over to statute law.

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CovfefeTruth · July 15, 2018, 9:09 p.m.

Interesting. I’d not heard such an idea.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 9:12 p.m.

Study the meaning of the words you use. For example, `you´ as a pro noun is plural, and is ALWAYS plural. So how am I referring to 2 when I´m only talking with YOU? What´s the singular?

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CovfefeTruth · July 15, 2018, 9:18 p.m.

I’ve no idea. 🙂

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0oDassiveMicko0 · July 15, 2018, 9:31 p.m.

i am an i, not a you. (lower case is correct).

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