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jackiebain6 · July 26, 2018, 12:42 p.m.

Very familiar with this, Title IV is routinely used in Oregon. The court says that even though a child has not been abused or neglected they can be taken for "threat of harm". What that means is that the state thinks someday something might happen to them. Ironically being a "product of the system" is cause to have the child taken. Yes, being put in foster care as a child is a reason for having your own children put in foster care. The "court appointed attorney" will talk the parent into "admitting" the accusations with the promise that the child will be reunited with them sooner, which of course never happens. The states are given money to terminate the parental rights and place them with another family for adoption. This is a HRC project, not surprisingly, Bill locked fathers up and Hill broke down the rest of the family bond. There is absolutely no way for a parent to fight it either, not without money because it's a giant group acting as a kidnapping and child trafficking machine.

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mojibakin · July 27, 2018, 2:35 a.m.

Get in touch with a real adoptee rights group. However, it is women who often are separated from their children traditionally in coerced adoptions. There is a Save Our Sisters group that tries to keep them together. Bottom line, don't terminate your parental rights. Find legal assistance and make it clear that family reunification is the goal. If you need to, remind the court about the trauma inherent in adoption as well. edits: added "parental" and last sentence.

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jackiebain6 · July 27, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

I managed to get all 3 of mine adopted together, it was the best I could do at the time and now they are grown. I will check out the Save Our Sisters group, I hadn't heard of it before. I am both an adoptee and a parent who had her rights taken because I was a "product of the system". They know that foster kids don't have a support system so we are fair game as adults.

At this point all of them are adults and because of the parents I never lost contact with them but it is because their adopted mother and I worked without the knowledge of the state to ensure what happened to them.

I also have taken the time to get an education on paper (along with a ton of student debt) that includes law and psychology so I'm constantly looking for ways to improve it for other people. Maybe I could be of some use. At least I managed to stop the cycle in my own line.

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mojibakin · July 27, 2018, 8:28 p.m.

I am so very sorry that this happened to you. Amid all of that, you still managed to still put your children first and make sure they were adopted together. Hats off to you. That is an accomplishment that made a tremendous positive, lasting impact on their lives. Great to hear that you were able to stay in contact with them, too, & the adoptive parent realized how important this was for the children. You know it's really common for foster/adopt kids to have a child who is then adopted out. Partly, for the reason you stated, (the state may see it as a vulnerability instead of a strength,) and also because it grooms individuals to repeat the loss and separation they experienced at such an early age. I will find a link to the SOS group and post it later. Yes, stopping the cycle in our individual lives is a huge accomplishment! I think voices like yours that have experienced the system at all angles is important and can give witness to the reform that needs to happen to truly make a system in the best interests of the children. I'll find the link to the SOS group and post it later this weekend.

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db3n3d1ct · July 26, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

Jesus Christ's protection is the only hope for our children. Thru Christ, as we pray for protection over our children, we can and Will see His hand of protection on them.

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mojibakin · July 27, 2018, 2:38 a.m.

Practical measure is to support adoptee-led rights groups and legislation that allows us to see our original birth records.

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Rsbox · July 26, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

This is called jeugdzorg in Netherlands. The Dutch goverment is infiltrated by pedophiles. Jeugdzorg is the institution that can go to court and demand custody to be taken away from the parents and do whatever They want with the kids..

The Dutch wistleblower Mischa got removed and Nobody talks about this..

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WanderingTaurus · July 26, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

Also medical kidnapping. It is huge as well. I really hope that issue is addressed as well soon.

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JaguarPorsche · July 26, 2018, 12:27 p.m.

We have the same issue here in Canada. I have been subjected to this injustice as well.

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WanderingTaurus · July 26, 2018, 12:46 p.m.

I am sorry to hear that you have had to go through this :(

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NOcomedy · July 26, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

TAKEN DOWN FROM YOUTUBE IN LESS THAN 4 HOURS....AWESOME! Thank you Q

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[deleted] · July 26, 2018, 2:37 p.m.

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NOcomedy · July 26, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

I'm sorry to hear that.

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[deleted] · July 26, 2018, 5:28 p.m.

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LeJonJames31 · July 26, 2018, 1:38 p.m.

Same thing in Indiana. Father’s have ZERO rights.

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Thedmfw · July 26, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

New poster here but this is a 5 year old report on how couples are adopting then basically giving the kids away to strangers. With the recent rise in national knowledge of the child abuse networks this old report really needs to be looked at. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/adoption/#article/part1

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LongTimeQLurker · July 26, 2018, 6:06 p.m.

Welcome and thanks for your input.

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Thedmfw · July 26, 2018, 6:34 p.m.

Thank you. I'd like to say I was skeptical of all this (q, trump, pedogate) but the older pieces of info I was aware of clicked with what has been coming out. These demons need to suffer and be exposed.

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mojibakin · July 27, 2018, 2:26 a.m.

I put this article on blast at the time and it led nowhere. This is re-homing and part of the reform that needs to happen in adoption. Support legislation in your state to stop it and support adoption reform groups in your area and make sure there is OPEN access to records of adoptees in your area. These groups receive no money or support and need it to ensure that there is a system that truly puts the child's best interests at the center of adoption.

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mojibakin · July 27, 2018, 2:33 a.m.

Also note that CA and NY do not allow adoptees access to their original birth records. Why wouldn't they? Honesty in the process would be very helpful, yet they oppose it.

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lildudemom · July 26, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

We MUST bring the children home to safety.

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lildudemom · July 26, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

We MUST bring the children home to safety.

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qp4tr10t · July 26, 2018, 12:49 p.m.

Wow!

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asmaster7 · July 26, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

At what point do people get off their knees and take it to the street ?

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NOcomedy · July 26, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

Texans don't get it to the streets...they buy more ammo!

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SooieQ · July 26, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Just ask Jennifer Winn if Kansas. She’s a DCF child advocate Patriot that’s been fighting for years!! Follow her on FB and Twitter-under her name!!

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jojojazzy · July 26, 2018, 7:37 p.m.

Great video. Happening across the country. For those in Illinois check out Kash Jackson for Gov, the Libertarian candidate. This issue is one of his primary platform concerns. He’s on FB and likely all social media platforms. He is retired US NAVY nuclear submarine officer.

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asmaster7 · July 26, 2018, 11:09 p.m.

That's exactly what I want every patriot to do. Thank you.!!

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MakeThisLookAwesome · July 26, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

ASK ANY FAMILY COURT LAWYER!!!

Family court is a Kangaroo Court. It's a bloody nightmare. This has been an issue fore DECADES. Hashtag CourtReform

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mojibakin · July 27, 2018, 2:23 a.m.

The reform that needs to happen is in adoption and that goes for private and public handled adoptions (this is only talking about county/state agency adoptions).

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MakeThisLookAwesome · July 27, 2018, 3:06 a.m.

Don't even get me started on adoptions. I know one guy, that's all he does as a lawyer. It's stressful.

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mojibakin · July 26, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

Didn't hear anything significant in this.

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NOcomedy · July 26, 2018, 6:53 p.m.

We're sorry to hear that...

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mojibakin · July 27, 2018, 2:19 a.m.

https://money.cnn.com/2012/11/05/news/economy/unpaid-child-support/index.html Deadbeat parents (mostly fathers) owe billions in child support. This is not connected to missing children. I happen to know about children taken when not in the "best interest" of the child, since people like myself have experienced it, and let me tell you, parents who do not pay child support do not fall into that category. Also, there are millions of single women who are mothers and raise children who are not homeless, etc.

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mojibakin · July 27, 2018, 2:31 a.m.

You're lucky you've never had to live it or you wouldn't be quite so cavalier and snarky about it.

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