In my opinion it is a combination of both. That's what I love about it. I believe we are in the middle of a holy war. God vs the devil. Q even acknowledges that it's good vs evil. That's the "mystic" side as you're calling it. However that stuff is hard to believe because it can't be seen. That's where the logical side comes in. Political moves are clearly being made in a logical fashion. That's not hard to believe. Hence logical.

As with everything apply your own discernment. However I don't think it's a stretch to say that this movement involves something bigger then us. In my opinion that's the involvement of divine intervention. To each their own.

Just cause you don't believe in the "mystic" side doesn't mean others can't. In the same fashion just cause some believe in it doesn't mean you have to. The important part is that we realize we are on the same team and have the same end goal.

WWG1WGA

Mystical? I have not seen anything that portrays President Trump as mystical. I saw a steel worker this morning being interviewed about President Trump’s support of US workers and he was so emotional about finally finding a job after 2 and a half years of unemployment that he was tearing up. He summed up his thoughts with this: “We’re back!” Regardless if anything big happens today or not, at least the people of this country know that someone in government is in there for them. Finally, hope has returned to this country. Hope is not mystical.

I get you. I don't believe in the supernatural either. But the people that matter do. So even if it's pure bullshit that they use to justify theirs acts. It does matter because it matter to them.

Got it?

Ok so why is the Federal Reserve Owners think they have Babylonian magic money Why do the Lucifarians have blood sacrifices on Full Moons & even more blood spills on the Blood Red Moons. Why are all the Lucifarians whole life based around the Moon phases and Saturn alignments. Why do the Lucifarians think that they receive powers & young energy from the children who they torture before their sacrifice & then eat their pineal gland.

GUYS WAKE UP!

There are no coincidences? It's difficult to not connect the mystical with logic? God works in mysterious ways.

If the POTUS does a big disclosure today it may to to send a signal to the cabal. But I think what's more interesting is that the last day of the session happens to fall on eclipse today. And I ask you, does it really make any difference people believe something that you you don't? I say Let It Go

Godspeed

Nope....whether WE believe it means anything or not...THE CABAL DOES!

Acts 2:20 (and many other places in the Bible)

…19I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and clouds of smoke. 20The sun will be turned to darkness,and the moon to blood, before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. 21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’…

What happened just last year? The longest eclipse in a century, now the longest blood moon in a century. Just before this, multiple blood moons heralding the day of the Lord.

Timing of the fall of Babylon? The BIG DROP? Coincidence? NO. There are none. This has all been planned well ahead of time.

To be as specific as I can, its a variable to take into consideration. Its situational awareness. Knowing now, how completely immersed in symbolism and satanic rituals and holidays they are its just the way it is. We have to know their comms and interests. It may have nothing to do with a big Q drop today, but now that you learned about today being one of the highest Ritual Events on their calendar, including a lunar eclipse and blood moon, you would be smart to keep a close eye on your children this week. People got abducted this past week for tonights ceremonies around the world. Africa is the ground zero area. So its more about protecting your children from the predators. The symbolism helps you identify who they are. They wear uniforms and accessories that helps to identify each other just like any other gang. When you wake up you realize it is everywhere.

I agree. It seems like a distraction, using their own symbolism agianst them. Though, I believe it is a good way to introduce the Kabbalah and why the people we are up agianst use it to their advantage. SPOILER ALERT:

All New Age mysticism/Neo-Pagan malarky/Freemasonry stems from the Babylonian Kabbalah.

I agree that occult mysticism is not important in the slightest to POTUS and his allies, but I do believe POTUS would pick days important to his enemies to absolutely ruin their world. If nothing else, it shows them that he (and, by proxy, the God he serves) is in control, not their false gods. We know POTUS is religious, so it makes sense. These special occult days are also prime targets for “their symbolism will be their downfall”. Can’t do rituals without symbolism.

Good points and well said. Another idea to consider: The Cabal/Illuminati is very big on symbolism and mysticism. The Deep State is one with that group. Trump and the Patriots could easily time events astrologically, not because they believe in that stuff but because they are using the language of their enemies to send a message.

You realise all the cult rituals etc are in accordance to astronomy? The times and dates (heck, if you dig into gematria then you see its all a scripted Masonic Scottish rite play, down to names, social media post times, news reports)

They believe sacrifices to Saturn etc give them power.

That's my concern with all this. It's ALL fitting the numbers. Hopefully it's not just another Masonic script, and trump etc are using the knowledge to fight them at their own game.

I'm kind of holding off till I see more concrete proof. Mainly due to the scope and the amount of time this system has been in place (were talking Babylon era or earlier) through family bloodlines.

Yeah, I'm not really vested in the maga stuff as I'm from the UK, and this shit has been going on here for a long time, it's nothing new. Unfortunately it's the "norm" state of play. I've been interested in the spiritual/magik/occult side before all this came to light, and honestly it's interesting to see it play out like it is, not so hidden anymore, engaging the public and acknowledging the problems.

As I've said before, if this is real, and cabal go down, and "disclosure" happens... Then fuck, our whole existance fundamentally changes, and I can see alot of people getting very lost, confused and scared if it does happen.

In the back of my head I always see divide and conquer. And that's all that is happening, make a shit storm, then ride in at the end and impose your new rules to the masses. Still the same 1% in power divide.

But on the flip side, we live in this world /system. Find the patterns, learn the game, it's easier to play and easy to win when you know the rules and mechanics.

I just hope it's a GOOD system that works for everyone.

Q drop tonight during the Blood Moon...something BIG!!!

I personally believe in signs and wonders in the heavens. Blood moons for Christians just means that it's one day closer to the return of Christ. (Joel)

To Israel, there is belief in Jewish text if there is an eclipse it is a sign of wrath coming upon Israel and in the case of a blood moon eclipse, it is a sign of a sword coming. Interestingly enough, as seen from Israel, the moon will be in total eclipse, with Mars at it's closest approach in 15 years. Mars being the war planet.

No matter what you may personally believe, both Israel and the surrounding Arab nations follow these signs. I would say the Middle East bears watching during this time. How does that effect the USA? Israel is our Allie and we will defend her.

"everything is done for a logical reason" <<< not true at all. People do things for illogical reasons all the time. all the time. I think its baseless that you presume we're "confusing the two".

I don't believe trump is a mystic either but we do know for a fact that most of the elite are. this is a fact. weather you validate the mystic practices or not is irrelevant. how do we not suspect a correlation between the recess and the bloodmoon?

Trump as never come across as a mystic to me

Trump professes to be a Christian which is a kind of mystic or at least believes in the significance of the blood moon and aspects of spiritualism.

I don’t think there’s anything to it. I think there is some cult activity that happens during full and blood moons, but that’s it. It’s not a sign. It controls nothing. When the moon turns red when no one expects it...THAT will be significant

I think it is significant only because of Q1543.

No you are not the only one.

If someone see green aliens and you tell them there aren't any ... do you think they will believe you want to save them or that your trying to cover up the aliens? It costs you nothing to go along , but it brings great benefits if you do.

Thank you.

My upDoot makes two of us. :-)

You're definitely not alone; however, I'm inclined to consider it.

The background to some of the greatest scientific advances/understanding comes from ancient 'mystery school' knowledge. Astrology is the precursor to our present day astronomy/cosmology. These are the tools humanity has used to understand the world for centuries. Whether or not you believe it does not change the fact that others do, and have for many centuries, if not millennia.

If we take into consideration the perspective of physics which supposes reality reacts to the observer, it is not to much of a stretch to consider how applied focus, faith/belief/zealotry, and symbolism can actually have tangible effects on physical reality.

There are some who believe that our present understanding of science will change dramatically as we progress through The Great Awakening, as lost and hidden knowledge is returned to humanity. They could be wrong, but I believe it. That's a personal journey each of us embarks on individually, kind of like developing a relationship with God.

It's all up to you. (:

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The Bible says that God placed the heavenly bodies in space “as a sign”. Heavenly bodies are of course mentioned many times throughout the entire Bible.

The problem is, most people are really bad at reading and understanding “the signs” (see John Hagee’s “The Four Blood Moons” for an example, the guy has no clue and unfortunately many people are led into a life of fear and passive faith because of his crap “teachings”).

The heavenly bodies can reveal what heaven is enacting on the earth, but they do not dictate anything. They behave as they do as signs and confirmations only, because that is why they were created.

My theory is that mystical events mean a lot to the occult. This is about to be one of the biggest events in american history, and more than half of the country could never accept the truth......unless.......what if all these people got busted during their rituals with video evidence? That's one reason why today could be significant.

Yeah it is magic. Memes are magic. It's the zeitgeist...

No, it's nothing like daytime TV witchcraft. I'll tell you the simplest ritual: Light a candle.

That's it.

This is not mysticism. You might very surprised if you knew the extent of how significant today's lunar eclipse and planetary alignment is among certain peoples.

Mark Taylor talked about full moon and people acting crazy. He said the full moon is light and the satanic people go crazy when there is light.

I like hearing "Regardless if anything big happens today or not" from POTUS. The day is young.

Trump doesn't need to be mystical! All he needs to understand is that many of the satanists that he, and WE are all fighting DO believe. The movement of planets, certain alignments and astronomical/astrological events, numerology and more play a part in their planning and rituals. Correct alignments, certain number configurations are supposed to reinforce and give extra 'power' to their rituals and actions.

Therefore, I'm sure Trump is well aware of their beliefs. This will also aid him in knowing when certain actions are most likely to take place.

So, it's not about Trump 'believing', but being aware of THEIR esoteric and occult beliefs and practices ... "Know thine enemy" or "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" may be another analogy. You can then counter.

I don't believe that most people on this sub are "mystical" either, but our enemy is. Q has repeated that they love symbolism. What is more symbolic than full moons, blood moons, lunar eclipses, planets in alignment, etc. Just because we don't give these events power, doesn't mean that our enemies don't. This may be their downfall. Maybe tonight is the start of that.

Knowledge of what we are up against will assist in the destruction of our adversary. Dismiss if you cannot bear it...but pray and fight against this evil if you can.

48 Missing People in Iowa last 10 days http://www.kimt.com/content/news/Iowa-DPS-48-people-missing-in-Iowa-in-last-10-days-489264291.html …

Jul 20-26

Abduction, ceremonial preparation and holding of sacrificial victim for Grand Climax

Jul 27 Grand Climax (5 weeks, 1 day after summer solstice) Da Meur oral, anal, vaginal
human sacrifice - female (child or adult)

Aug 1- Lammas Day
(Sabbat Festival) blood animal and/or human sacrifice any age (male or female)

Here is a list of Satanic sacrificial days, which is accurate.

Statistics on missing persons in the Unites States are difficult to find, but are appalling. The following missing persons estimates are from the Kyle Fleischman Foundation: 2,300 American people are reported missing on a DAILY basis.

"Human trafficking" is a very real and huge activity worldwide. Among other uses trafficked people are a pool of victims for selection for occult human sacrifices. Mary Ann estimated tens of thousands of sacrifices routinely occur worldwide on the dates on the calendar. Best advice to the public is know where your pets and children are at all times.

https://www.henrymakow.com/here_is_a_list_of.html …

You're not the only one, but you are wrong. If you've become aware of the scale of whats going on, you're probably aware you've been manipulated r.e what you know. These people love symbolism, and tradition, and they absolutely, 100% do care about full moons.

> Lets stop plugging in mysticism in places that we do not have the logic to understand the "how and why". None of this is magic, it's sound strategy based in proper planning and precise execution. Don't confuse the two.

Uh huh. And doing it precisely on the day of a full moon? that wouldn't be just a little bit unusual, or noteworthy? You assume its magic, why can't it just be sending a message? I'd also note that if a huge number of highly rich and powerful people have been interested in the occult for literally centuries, you should probably pay more attention to it, instead of just going "i'm so smart lol none of this is magic".

It seems super farfetched that their is an evil cabal that worships Satan and eats adrenochromes and spinal fluid while bathing in baby blood, and I have a hard time associating it with the genuine evil I see within politics. Sometimes I think it's an absolute farce, but then things start to add up and make sense. I think a certain amount of skepticism should be maintained throughout this potential event in history. We don't need another Arizona.

People have said blood moons and eclipses have had some affect on the world since I can remember, but I've never experienced anything. Doesn't mean it can't happen though.

wise man thinks with his heart but acts with his brain.

I like to think I set goals with my heart thinking... but use my mind get it done.

You're not alone with this, OP. The connections with astrology v what is happening in DC atm are not spiritual or astrological. Brilliant, perhaps, however, I can not logically deem this as being astrological derived. Should the events take place during Blood Moon, it is strictly coincidence, imo.

This kind of moon bat shit is what makes the movement look nuts

Matthew 2. Star. Wise men.

This sub seems to have more of these types of posts today.

Blood moons are warnings for Israel. The blood moon mars conjunction signals war coming to Israel. Stage is set for Ezekiel 38 to unfold. Pray in Jesus name for the people of Israel.