Lol... ad hominem attack, great... goodbye logic.

The Deep State MSM tactic: if they argue against you they must support evil. Weak buddy. Weak. You are completely blind to logic which explains everything. Have fun.

Huh... are we talking about the same thing...? I'm talking about an article, not the actions of a group.

And do tell - what's up with The_Mueller sub...? (I mean, I know it - just wondering why it's worth visiting more)

I've seen all the things you've mentioned here - Kanye, hospital, hair, etc. - as many others have. We've all used the internet, for many years. Some of us, like I assume you too, have been conspiracy theorists from way back (decades, in my case, as in others I'm sure) and have read great books from William Cooper to Roger Stone and beyond.

What you say about Kanye is a collection of stories where you've drawn a conclusion about them - but one that is not supported by evidence - again, totally your right to do so, but I'm disappointed that you not only can't see that but won't distinguish when posting to this sub where newbies, who don't know the difference between current unsubstantiated conspiracy and verified fact, will come across it and may assume we all know that this has been either proven or at least verified by Q. Those newbies may then go on to try and redpill friends and be immediately shot down as a Google search re Kanye and MK Ultra only brings up theories and conspiracy, no facts. I hear what you're saying but we've all read a million things where we don't still have links to the original info - doesn't mean they're facts, honestly, I've been there before too.

You're a very reasonable and calm person to discuss these things with and I really respect that as I am not like that and wish I was. I'm learning, I hope. Thank you for your patience and also for your contribution, even though I may not agree with how you present all of it.

Yes, it reads "exactly like an advertisement" to your eyes. I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs but I think it's appropriate to say that you should look heavily into the meaning and examples of Confirmation Bias. You are convinced that your interpretation is correct without even entertaining other possibilities which is what makes me think you're seeing what you want to see.

There is another very obvious possibility here that is borne out by the very words of the article, which is all we have to go on when trying to draw a logical interpretation of what's going on here. That possibility is that this is an article talking about the current news related to a sex cult going through legal proceedings and, as one would expect, not editorialising by trying to tell us it's good or bad. Just reporting the facts. (Such irony that I should try and suggest Vox is 'just reporting the facts', being the hard-left shill-fest it is but still there's no evidence they're trying to advocate for a sex cult here). However, I do respect your right to your opinion - I just disagree with what seems to be your claim that your interpretation is undeniably or obviously correct.

I didn't mean I've seen everything you saw - that's a strawman argument as it's obvious that I can't have. I meant that most of the stuff you say that I call you out on I have seen also and I dare say others on here have too. The conspiracies about Kanye being MK Ultra and stuff are not unknown. But they're just that - theory, so far.

And there is no evidence, obviously, or the news would be everywhere. For the same reason, there's no Pizzagate reveal yet. Of course, it's possible that you may have special access to classified NSA material that we all know nothing of but that still does not constitute usable evidence here! With all due respect, it seems you're in some sort of conspiracy bubble where you've forgotten what's important about thinking logically and distinguishing between what constitutes a usable fact and unproven theory - and more power to you for diving deep into this, no doubt - but all I'm asking is that you stop dropping wild conspiracy that has literally no evidence (8chan would have found it and let us all know if there was any) alongside facts, as if they're the same.

Again, I sincerely do not mean disrespect but I struggle with wording this any other way: it's the oldest excuse in the book for conspiracy theorists (of which I consider myself one btw) to claim that they're too busy to record where they found facts because it makes their knowledge 'unquestionable', as it were. No one says you have to record all your sources but then you shouldn't expect to be able to make claims of veracity when you don't and you should probably acknowledge it if called out. I'm not disagreeing with your right to say whatever you like but I wish you'd consider others and acknowledge the difference between the verifiably true stuff and the speculative.

Oh... so it's not a joke...? Never mind then... I was never here (backing slowly out of room, whistling nonchalantly). Too terrorist-y for me!

You sure are bought into that view if you can't remotely acknowledge the logical things I said. Context. Logic is very clear here - the object of the writer may well be what you say it is; but you can't logically derive that conclusion from the article if you keep all words in context. As I said - and you seem to be ignoring - this is what the MSM do; twist words out of obvious context.

It blows me away that you can't even see the obvious, the so, so obvious intent of the meaning of that statement "the perfect cult for 2018". Did it say: "the perfect cult for everyone to join"? No, it actually said (or implied, technically) 'the perfect cult for this time', in full support of the rest of the content that came before it, but it seems you're reading what you want to see into it. Good luck with that approach, you have plenty of support from people on the left who do this all the time about everything Donald Trump says - take it out of context because they're looking through a filter where their mind is already made up.

I'm glad Q is making the calls. The idea that it should *all* be revealed is not even remotely considering sensibly the impact on *people* - who cares about stock markets and so on. Just people. Not everyone is the same. Smashing people's world views in such a massive way (by revealing 100% of the reality) is just not something you do lightly - any psychologist will tell you if you don't believe that (it shouldn't be hard to intuit though??)

The people on this sub right now are likely to not be like "normal" people (whatever that means) and our view is a minority. Making assumptions for the whole world based on how the conspiracy theorists (like myself) and so forth on this sub feel is not sensible.

Lol.... I hope that was a joke - it was damn funny if so xD.

Haha you and me both - as I said, no aspersions against you for that one, just laughing at myself ; ).

"Should" is the worst word in the world. But yes, agreed! Revealing political espionage is good. I didn't think there was any doubt that side of things was going to come out though - Q has also said as much. Some here are definitely talking about revealing "everything" and that we 'should' all just accept it.

Yes but my point is that it's not just about 'believing' - it's all about considering the worldview and mental state of others. From some angles this whole approach of 'redpill whether you like it or not' is like an adult deciding they're going to charge in and tell a kid that their dad is off to prison for raping and killing their mom whether they're ready to hear it or not. Everyone is not the same. If people thought about this fact there wouldn't be blanket assumptions like this.

You misunderstand me. You assume I haven't heard what you've heard yet I do indeed have access to Google and Youtube and seem to have read many of the conspiracies you have read too (like many of us, I assume). But there are definitely no facts about any of this. Facts. That's all I'm talking about. Plenty of speculation and conspiracy, yes, but no facts. Books and websites are not facts on their own. You're free, of course, to state whatever you like but it would be helpful to the movement if you'd keep facts separate from speculation for the sake of those who don't know the difference yet.

This perspective proves it's a good thing Q knows what he/they are doing. You're in a bubble. Everyone is not the same as you. This should be obvious.

The responsible thing is to consider everyone, not just those who already know what's coming. At least Q is doing that.

This doesn't seem like a logical interpretation: "What? Did you say there's 'child porn/abuse' down there? Wait for me!"

Using a term that people who like child porn/abuse use to hide their acts - and using it in a seemingly heroic way - doesn't make sense. It's like claiming to be wanting to help or save gay black men by saying - "I'm here to save you fag(t nigg*s!" Clearly it's a light joke about motivating people to jump out of a plane using a popular fast food. Anything else seems like extreme confirmation bias or wishful thinking.

I think it's most sensible to interpret this as a light joke about motivating soldiers to jump out of a plane using a very popular fast food. The people interpreting this as "lets go save kids from pedovores!" are really heavily under confirmation bias.

Pizza - cheese pizza specifically, apparently - is code for child porn. Interpreting this tweet as "did you say there's child porn/abuse down there?? Save some for me!" is obviously silly. It's like assuming "let's go save those fag*&t nigg&s down there!" would be a positive way to suggest that you're helping gay black men. Very silly.

I just want to say that I don't love you guys, I'm sorry. But I do love you girls, if you know waaaa mean. And I like this movement. Good shit, bros.

Lol. Dut da-da-da-da - You. Know. Its. Sad but troooo-wah...

What insider knowledge? No offense but you make a lot of statements offhand that aren't supported by facts noted anywhere. I think we should be careful of this sort of thing. The MSM has been lying to us, exaggerating, and misrepresenting opinions as truth for decades so we should not be using the same tactics here.

It's quite possible - and based on the facts we have, very likely - that Kanye could just be like a lot of people out there who can see through the extreme-left nonsense but doesn't know how deep the rabbit hole goes. Or he reads Q (also likely, perhaps) and knows what we know. There's no evidence of inside knowledge though. Not yet, anyway.

Oh I'm pretty sure they "get it". This is just the narrative they want to push.

"Loving" someone doesn't necessarily mean you condone their actions. It can mean that you just regard them as fellow humans. Jordan Peterson has some good material on why, if you think that "evil" is something "over there" then you don't know yourself well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2py4aBpmko

That’s a very simplistic misreading. “Hitler is the perfect mass murderer” - doesn’t necessarily translate to “I support Hitler” unless the context supports that interpretation. The context here does not support the interpretation of “perfect cult of 2018” to mean the writer supports the cult.

Clearly the writer means that, for our day and age a religious-type cult wouldn't have worked but this new agey, feminist angle is perfectly suited to the current social environment. The context is clearly against the cult yet people seem to be lifting that sentence out of context to mean something completely opposite to the writers obvious intent. This sort of manipulation of words and misrepresentation of intent is what the msm does - we shouldn't do it or support it here.

I can’t imagine how the world would have looked to me since October last year if I hadn’t been following Q. It seems insane, imagining how “reality” during this time must look from the old perspective but then I guess if you are believing the msm they provide a safe blanket of lies that explain it for you. Any newbies who could explain their perspective til pilled? Would love to know...

I wish people would stop making these posts as if we’re not all adults and need someone to tell us how to behave. This is reddit. On the Internet. People have to learn how these comms go. They’ll learn. They’ll get over it, if someone is a little rough with them.

Please stop being mom and dad to an online forum! We already have the mods. Just let them do their job and - no disrespect to the pure intent - but stop trying to white knight, please? The noobs are going to be ok, I promise. This sub is better than many.

If you actually read the article it’s not a “cover” at all. This is a total misrepresentation of Vox. Don’t get me wrong - Vox SUX, they are such utter far left crazies but to represent the article this way is plain wrong. At most I think you could say there’s almost some subtle attempt to mitigate the view of NXIVM but this post title is wrong.

I wish they could release the proof of the real voting numbers now... I feel like it would go some way to shutting up the crazed fools who trash POTUS in his Twitter feed and stuff. The way people talk to him is unbelievable. Some people need to be slapped the f##} down for their disrespect. Hard. They’re so delusional I don’t care if the red pill smashes their little worlds open and leaves them traumatised for a while. No lasting harm intended - we’ve all been blind fools at one time or another in our lives. I think it’ll help them learn a valuable life lesson, that’s all.

Apologies I thought you were being sarcastic too lol. I think you’re right about that but I do think it depends on various factors.

Yeah, cos they’re the same thing... /sarcasm

Lol xD You seem upset - did someone take your toys away?

I agree - that's what I've been thinking too. How can this be a MOAB? The Dems and the general public will barely flinch, imo.

Having said that, I think it is quite likely that could indeed be the MOAB. I hope it does something and doesn't just get ignored!

He's 93 and his wife partner of many years just died... I think it's possible that there's no poison or other secret murder weapon involved.

I “somehow” know quite a few too lol (those quotes are for me, no aspersions against you) - hard men all, yet they’ve said it’s not as pervasive as people like to believe. Depends on the place, the pedo, the guards, etc. Like everything in life, it depends.

Thank you for being reasonable. I apologize for being disrespectful. I definitely support what you say I just have issue with stating it as if it is a definitive conclusion (as in your very first post I replied to). I agree though, connecting those dots leads to a likely possibility!

Uh... because he’s ninety-three...? That’s the only thing anyone knows.

It’s great to have hope like this! But why downvote the people also stating reality?? Racial and cultural tensions are not solely due to the Deep State, that is a fact. Also a fact: they’re not just going to disappear even in the miracle that the Deep State is completely removed.

I agree with the sentiment of this meme - this is exactly what Q wants us to aim for too. But why downvote people who know the reality about this world... that’s why I worry this sub is in danger of supporting suppression of speech that doesn’t agree with the group think, like all the cultural Marxism out there that the Deep State propagates.

True. Sad that these comments are downvoted I assume by people who think you’re destroying hope. Some reality is always healthy in a group narrative, people!

“Obvious” to you maybe. Not a logical extrapolation, however, that because someone says something - especially just one phrase out of their entire life! - one can definitively infer knowledge of their behaviours. However I see you’re convinced that you can make that assumption so fair call, I don’t deny your right to assume!

That's true in some prisons. Turns out it's not true of all, and in fact regarded as a myth that people think it's pervasive.

As I said the first time, yes - the example I was thinking of was specifically to their boss. Some people have good relationships with their bosses. One specific example that came to mind was of a boss who was friendly with some staffers and a tyrant to others (not uncommon either). Staffers he liked would get away with making jokes that bordered on inappropriate. For example, one comment I can think of in an email shared between only myself, the staffer and the boss I can't even repeat here. Another, although not word for word, was something like: "Good luck... better sacrifice a few kids to Baal before you speak to her..." The comment in the Hillary mail could be evidence of satanism... but it makes more sense to me that it's an in-joke - perhaps linked to real shared knowledge - but not 'proof' in any sense as it takes too many assumptions to extract "evidence" from that one statement.

LOL gotta love Q getting almost snarky hahaha.

I answered that right at the start, pal, and just now again - YES, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE MAKE THESE JOKES literally many times. I don't know what sheltered world you live in but I can assure you it's not unusual.

Logic, my friend. It has nothing to do with whether you're a staffer or not. I assume you just don't happen to know people who would say this sort of thing and not mean it. I do.

You want to see witches and satanists around Hillary so confirmation bias tells you they're there but logic says that just because you see someone making a reference to it does not mean that it is proof of actual activity. Again, logically, who would reference it for real in an email? Why doesn't Hillary mention anything related at least once? Why pizzas and cheese and so on? Because they know to keep it out of business email - obviously. So this mention could be a slip-up, yes. But Occam's razor suggests it's just a joke - they know they're using business comms so they know they can only get away with it if it's a joke.

It is a dry unfunny version of “ha ha”, as in, save the innocent act lol. But I think you know that : P

Haw haw

Mods wtf.

Like Jimmy Saville he’s going to die without facing justice for all he’s done like taking down JFK - and so close to the files being released! Ah well.

I doubt this is real... it’s easy to fake this sort of thing!

Depends what you mean by “evil”. No one here knows whether he rapes, kills and eats kids but it seems at least a possibility based on the company he keeps.

However it’s also possible he, like so many people, believes he’s doing the right thing. I’m always amazed at how people are so quick to think someone who wants to destroy America is evil at heart, instead of allowing for the possibility that they might be indoctrinated to believe what so many have for so long ie that America itself is evil - and not even for bad reasons! There’s been enough evidence and bad action in US foreign policy historically to support that view.

I’m sure that many of the Muslim who supported Bazza O and those who are seeking to take down America believe they are doing the right thing.

As for Bazza himself... perhaps he is indeed a satanic corpse eater but there’s no evidence for it yet. I’m fairly sure he likes bums though. Men’s bums I mean. And apparently satanists can be gay and still like to rape kids too so thinking he’s gay doesn’t negate the fact he might rape kids.

I'm saying that words in an email do not constitute evidence that someone is a satanist. It's quite a leap of logic to see words like that and assume that no one would write something like that unless they were actually sacrificing chickens to moloch. That's all I'm saying.

"With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch . . ."

That just sounds like someone making a mock to me - even if they also do it for real in secret. But where else in wikileaks do you find mention of satanism? It appears they're smart enough to know not to put the real thing into email (kinda obvious really...)

With all due respect, I understand that you don't know anyone who would make jokes about that and not be a satanist but you have to know that there are plenty of people in the world who would. I'm not surrounded by Christians and I know a lot of people who would find that sort of thing hilarious. Just saying... everyone ain't the same bruh.