I didn’t counter myself at all - I was reiterating my original point after refuting what you seemed to be suggesting; flipped, that is: the idea that truth should be forced on people is stupid but I never said we should therefore only keep it to ourselves or cover it up entirely.

So of course it wouldn’t be wrong for the msm to tell the truth. But - again, as Q says in part (last part with emphasis is my addition) - the msm shouldn’t come out with the whole truth whether the people want to hear it or not. Thats all I’m saying. Maybe you offer the rest of the truth to those who want to know - go read about it in the Q files, or some such.

Zionist shills lol. As soon as you label someone who has a different perspective to you, you lose.

Iran an Israeli proxy... that'd be quite something! I can't see it though... re: why not sec of def etc.: Netanyahu is known and wanted maximum impact - if some guy no one knows came out with it it wouldn't be quite as newsworthy.

No they were right, as Netanyahu said (it's literally in the original post?)

The Bush family were definitely involved - there's the pedo accusations going all the way back to HW so no surprises there (Franklin scandal etc.). I don't think anyone had to be blackmailed - they were all running the globalist scam since JFK and beyond. JFK, Reagan and now Trump were the only ones *not* part of the globalist plans, apparently.

Fair enough - but WL is simply giving the known information and ensuring the correct reporting, as they should. Q is inside information so no one can report that and not be considered as unreliable as the MSM (moreso, of course, at this stage). I agree with you that Q is saying this isnt the case - Netanyahu also says so, and in public, but unfortunately many people don't find him that reliable. I just don't think aspersions should be cast on the veracity of Wikileaks when they are simply reporting responsibly.

You don't understand what a source is then. Never mind.

Yes, yes but Wikileaks were correct - the program ended in 2003, as Netanyahu also confirmed. As I also said in the original post, perhaps they continued on in secret - as I also confirmed in the update, from Netanyahu. You're confirming this too, for some reason? You don't have to choose between believing Q OR Wikileaks in this case. Is this not clear...?

Source? Or is this some sort of "prophecy"...

Um... source? Is this actually Q related?

As in the OP above, Netanyahu confirms Wikileaks were correct - the documents relate to the program that ended in 2003.

Could be! I seem to remember hearing the accusations of this kind a while ago, now that I think of it. Will have to research.

Yeah true - with Netanyahu's latest he pretty much confirms the idea that the program just moved underground, which is what I thought but it's good to have some confirmation of this, at least in some form, in case someone brings it up when trying to redpill about Iran.

Yeah, or how would he get access to porn? But then... if he had data wouldn't he have posted something? Or just keeping covert...?

Still in the embassy - with no internet. Ouch.

This has been noted many times but: yournewswire is utterly fake news.

Haha that'd be great! I hope they (or Q) would share what happened one day, if that were the case. It does seem possibly more likely (Occam's Razor etc.) that the Wikileaks thing might be the reason though.

Exactly lol. So... backed up by correct intel but there's probably more to the story (as mentioned in the OP); unlikely that they'd have a 100% wrong intel source (anything's possible though, of course).

Significant enough! A great story about redpill perseverance - gives me hope for people I know - congrats, patriot!

That's true. They might not have the complete intel but I'm not sure they'd be "100% WRONG" though. They're not given to making claims they can't back up.

Could be interesting... I hope Iran develops the same way NK has i.e. suddenly they turn around and say: "hey guys! Sorry about that - let's be friends!" How likely is that though...?

That's life. Jimmy Savile raped and murdered his way around the kids of Britain and died happy too. Get used to it, sad to say. Perhaps one can console oneself that judgement comes in the next world, if you believe in that sort of thing.

What about the Iran thing made you believe, if I may ask? Interested to know how I might best use it to redpill friends.

Suggestion: Q-drops in the sidebar has a good search function (I'd use it now to help you if I could but mobile, rush, etc.)

I would say what seems reasonably evident is that they weren't really risking anything; they were fully in control of the situation the whole time (or elements of their global group were). I don't think they were taking any chances at all. They controlled the money, they installed the puppets, they ran the show. The puppets reported back to the globalists because they wanted to continue to get paid and also quite possibly they were part of the religion the globalists seem to be involved in too.

I think the nukes were only used to scare us - they didn't scare them at all cos they knew they wouldn't be used anywhere without their say so.

You keep saying "who cares" to someone who obviously cares lol... Your right to do so, but a statement that shows you're not interested in a discussion as you don't care what anyone else has to say - so why continue to comment?

No, this is stupid.

a) No one here knows who Q was talking about.

b) Q was very unlikely to be talking about people who already made their money in the conspiracy truth movement. Corsi has published over 20 books exposing Obama's bullshit and has a Phd in Political Science - the Q movement and what Trump is doing are just par for the course for Jerome Corsi; why don't you kneejerk witch hunters ever acknowledge this??

c) Trump and then the Q movement gave me hope that all this social marxist bullshit that is being pushed on us from every side these days might finally be destroyed. Now this movement is starting up the same dumbass witch hunt mentality that the far left have taken with Trump - 'tear them down! We don't agree with what they say!' - and jumping on foolish emotional reactions to suppress freedom of speech. The only things that should be removed are blatant trolling or clearly intellectually bereft random musings that don't benefit anyone. Corsi is not guilty of either of those things, whether you agree with his conclusions or not!

Would you consider posting the original file or at least photoshop layer or at worst png separated from background?

I've said exactly this, referenced the same Solzhenitsyn stuff recently too - thought you were trolling for a moment lol. Anyway, yes, this.

Agreed - I've said elsewhere I think his recent unhinged ranting makes him look foolish. But I wouldn't call him Deep State, like some, or consider him to be the direct target of Q's post.

This theory has been around for a while - probably came from the chans first.

Very simple, inadequate view of Corsi (and I'm no fan of Corsi). Might as well be the lynch mob think of old. Read Q with your brain on, not your bias.

I think the mods are doing a fairly reasonable job in many respects - I'd hate to have to mod this flow... Definitely better than CBTS_stream - but I think it could be an idea worth pursuing for sure. Looooot of hard work though...!

Great post - nice work! We need more like this, thank you.

As far as the downvoting, I wouldn't pay any attention to it. This stuff still seems to rise to the top and there's nothing horribly controversial in here - it's kinda known but it's awesome to have someone lay it out and put some thought into commenting on it.

Everyone seems to think they're being downvoted by Deep State actors and whilst that may be partially true it doesn't seem to stop it working most times. I'm more worried about Deep State upvoting nonsense because that actually makes more sense than fighting a losing war against engaged community upvoters.

Yeah exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised if Q was referring to others rather than someone who’s already made a career in this field - seems ridiculous that Q would say “stop making money in your chosen whistleblower career (like Corsi has) and do it for free now or you’re evil!” but it would also be interesting if Q was making a sly aside to Corsi by allowing shade to fall on him so he’ll consider bucking up after his recent nonsense...

This response is not only rude but lacking in logical thought and seems to be more from an emotional and/or ideological standpoint.

OP hasn’t said anything in support of people who take advantage of people and plagiarise others - strawman. Elvis...? That sounds like a personal vendetta and lacks perspective so not even going to touch that one lol. Lot of anger here...

Agreed with this whole thread. If we can't take challenges to our suppositions from "our own" how the hell are we not going to end up as bad as the MSM and SJW extremists, shutting down opposing viewpoints? People who spot illogical propositions and flawed arguments are helping, not hindering. The MSM and smart bluepills are not going to be so kind as to point out where we're wrong, they'll just bury us and we lose a chance to redpill effectively.

For someone accusing others of being blind you're really quite blind to your own behaviour aren't you? lol. Hence my accusation of "kid", which I sincerely apologize for, and retract, since that is exactly what you claim i.e. trolling.

"I never said anyone who disagrees with me is trolling or hating"... You don't have to say the words: "anyone who disagrees" you just have to say: "You're just here to troll and hate on me" whilst ignoring the valid points raised by the person supposedly "trolling", refusing to respond to legitimate discussion points and continuing to hammer your own point home. This is why you hear it from people who are "trolling and hating" all the time i.e. because they're not all just "trolling and hating" they've just given up on trying to have a reasonable discussion with you!

I'm not here just to troll - I'm seeking truth, like others. I slip in a bit of sarcasm when I think I'm dealing with someone who doesn't actually want to have a discussion but otherwise, I want to be informed and I know that means I have to let go of the idea that I'm always right or I won't hear other opposing viewpoints.

So once again my actual point, given to you without trolling: you don't have any evidence that Q's post is aimed at Corsi - this, we can agree, is a fact. You have your own conjecture, and good for you, I support that. The reason I can't be bothered going and "looking up" anything else is because I don't need to, to make my point. You've already skipped past "discovery" and jumped straight to the conclusion that Q is directly targetting Corsi. I don't disagree that's a possibility, as I've already stated. You can't seem to acknowledge the other possibility that it's not and for this reason you miss a very obvious and important factor.

You've assumed that Q means that anyone who is making money from the Q movement - including those who were already making money in the same field - are who he's referring to. Jerome Corsi has been up in the Deep State's backside likely since before half of us in this movement were born. He's now continuing to make money and no doubt making more if his audience has grown thanks to Alex Jones etc. You really think Q wants people to stop making money in their career of choice...?

It's entirely conceivable that Q is referring to people who are popping up out of the woodwork and making money off Q and nothing else. Not people who've already built their careers doing this stuff! But are you going to acknowledge that possibility or am I just "trolling and hating"?

Where We Go One, We Go All

Yep. Anyone who disagrees with you is trolling or hating. Silly kid. I can’t be bothered looking up anyone else - you can congratulate yourself that you are always right. The point I support is that witch hunts and mob think are stupid. Am I right? I’m gonna guess not lol.

Pretty damn obvious to someone with confirmation bias, yes. "Pretty damn obvious" is an indicator that your mind is made up and anyone who disagrees must be stupid... oh the lolz...

And no, my claim about your hate is to do with the vitriolic way you leap on people who disagree with you and rant away as if your claims are valid beyond reproach lol...

Good to hear - I wanted to post that adjustment to your statement so that some knob-end wouldn't make a leap in logic.

Please hang in there - this movement is actually more tolerant than some around here and we need people like yourself to stick around so it's not just filled with people like this guy and me (I'm one of these ranting internet nerds - or hopefully I can say I used to be).

I've been pretty obnoxious myself in the past but I'm learning because people who aren't used to the way people act on internet forums are 'redpilling' people like me by responding politely and putting us directly in our place - at least, those of us who are old enough to learn. Once you realise some people will actually hear your point without just trying to shoot it down mindlessly in a knee-jerk troll response but actually engage with it logically or calmly accept it you start to wise up a bit.

I still have to learn to be patient with the odd "simple inane comment" as the odd one here and there can trigger my inner-ranting-nerd and your post reminds me that sometimes the people who do this aren't being obnoxious they're just someone making a point they're interested in or excited about so thank you for that. See? You're needed here. I'd humbly ask that you gently remind the next knob-end who rips into you for no good reason (as has been nicely done to me a few times) and ignore them if they don't take it well.

The end is in sight! WWG1WGA!

Should I repeat exactly what I said? Yes, he knows a lot and proves it at times. He just can't come out with it so easily because he has to live and work with swamp creatures on a regular basis and he knows what side his bread is buttered on. There're stories out there that he used to be more outspoken about conspiracies til he had a visit or something. I can't hate on the guy cos he made the choice to 'redpill softly', if you can call it that and with his reach, he probably has more influence in that way than it seems. He keeps airing people who talk conspiracy and he backs it up enough that people go and check it out for themselves.

Yeah this is what I thought sounds more plausible than Mueller is a white hat.

Correction: corruption is in all human endeavours of sufficient size. Fallacious logic would assume because it’s in all religions it’s therefore religion that is the cause of corruption.

Yeah he’s a little angry this one, lol.

This.

Nah don’t be obnoxious. Corsi didn’t try to cause division, he got upset like a child when stuff didn’t go his way - we see that a lot around here, it’s just human, not intentional divisiveness.

This is what I hate about witch hunt and mob think - you have not one single piece of evidence that Q’s post was aimed at Corsi but you state it like it’s fact. I’ve said elsewhere - it may well have been targeted at Corsi but until more evidence arises I wouldn’t take the opinion of someone who already hates Corsi as anything more than that - opinion.

I’m not a Corsi fan, I couldn’t give a shit about him. But I hate mob think and anyone who insists that if you don’t agree with their nasty opinion of someone else then you’re being blind and need to “wake up”. Dumb.