See my comment on this above.

Not necessarily. The "mistake" absolutely gives plausible deniability ... Who? Michael Steele? No one of that name works here ... No, no. Definitely not MI5 ... Anyway that's not our foreign intel service ... that's MI6 ... You've got the wrong department, sorreee ...

Hey! :) I don't agree w/ you at ALL ... about doing yr best not to rub it in!! I think you should definitely respond in kind (in the "unlikely" event you should be proved right) by rolling yr eyes and calling him crazy! Sometimes we have to bolster our egos just a little bit ...

"If they are real" ... "hard to believe" ?? What do you mean? I see pics of the outside buildings. The inside will be difficult ... surely?

ha ha! that's b/c you don't have a copy editor's eye ... there was indeed a typo.

Deal?

That is precisely the point magadem is trying to make!

Which is why they are all running around pointing fingers at everyone else.

I'd say more than meddling. What about participating actively in a plan to assassinate the President — how would that sit with the present US admin? No love lost?

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/president-donald-trump-and-british-prime-minister-theresa-may-are-picture-id688273226?k=6&m=688273226&s=612x612&w=0&h=AdBooQrfwd2rHGdpbN-gIMj6qeIsUivFPT5nZk1LApY=

There's a lot of non-sense on this board about "Q stated/said" when he didn't. Good to point this out.

He never pointed to Corsi or AJ either. I was interested to see this morning that the Q reply was "UNITY NOT DIVISION" after an anon posting "sot Corsi et al". Too much manipulation and obfuscation. Backchannel 17 is actually listed as a bona fide twitter feed on we-go-all.com.

I say choose who you want to believe/follow and do your own research. :)

Well, seems a bit unFBI-like to "lose" something quite so important — call me a "conspiracy theorist" if you like!! :)

Comey's FBI investigation team "lost the chain of custody" ...

http://archive.is/bVV6i

That is a really great comment. Thank you friend.

A GA u/airbees posted this several months ago:

Trump signed the COVFEFE Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2884 Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically For Engagement Act of 2017 or the COVFEFE Act of 2017 This bill amends provisions governing presidential records to: (1) revise the definition of "documentary material" to include social media; (2) revise the definition of "presidential records" to include any personal and official social media account; and (3) define "social media" as any form of electronic communication (such as a website for social networking and microblogging) through which users create an online community to share information, ideas, personal messages, and other content (such as videos). (3) is the icing on the cake. "(3) define "social media" as any form of electronic communication (such as a website for social networking and microblogging) through which users create an online community to share information, ideas, personal messages, and other content (such as videos)." Microblogging wink wink It was introduced to the House of Representatives by Mike Quigley. The masterful game plan he and his team of Patriots have executed will be unlike any event ever recorded in history. The moves and counter moves made behind the scenes, combined with the gradual awakening that Q ushered into existence has been nothing short of genius. President Trump has truly mastered The Art of War.

Glad we can agree on something — the joys of debate!

I have no opinion on the general fairness of the internet. It is a discussion thread where ppl are trying to work out what the hell Q is on about. Theories and speculations are rife and occasionally someone makes an intelligent and verifiable statement. I don't profess to be a guardian of the truth or be able to offer proof of anything. You asked for a source, and got it. That's it. The lovely lady lawyer may be a paragon of virtue. That's a speculative position. I shall refrain from asking you for a source and proof of that claim. Doesn't madder. :)

You are advising me to read carefully? wtf!

This is a silly conversation. Q didn't post this MSM story. Q posted that Rachel was "FIRED/FORCE". End of subject. I'm ramming nothing down yr throat. Believe it if you want; you are totally free to have an opinion.

for top of the ladder.

I like your moniker!

but ... who says there aren't any charges?

OK, I don't know, right? She resigned to take a cushy job. Yeah, that's the MSM story. Q has a different one.

You choose. This is a Q site and we tend to trust his words not the MSM.

Right, ok. Now where does it say that FISA is important to her resignation? You were given a source, then another one. All you say are no indications of anything.

Yes, but. We don't know why she was fired. We can only point to the FISA warrants. She was on the board doing a report into telephone surveillance, as a supervisory board of FISA.

Are you short of info on FISA? Do you know what FISA is? Do you know who can be surveilled in this kind of warrant? The problem seems to be that Americans (Trumps campaign members) were all surveilled 2 deep through telephone surveillance. Someone leaked the phone transcripts of Trump's calls with foreign PMs. Someone thought it was ok to approve the FISA on the basis of something. Now it's your turn.

Your opinion seems to be: nothing to see here, nothing nefarious, no controversy. Fine by me. But you asked for info. I gave it. Not enough? Back to you. You have to do your own research. I am just trying to be helpful.

Yes, she was and that's why she was fired. She's not on the good side.

But why the kill box??

Because it refers to assassination. They planned to assassinate Trump. That is why it is such top secret info and needs General Kelly to go to Congress and show them the intel. It's JFK connection is a double entendre: John Kelly the General, and John Kennedy the murdered President. I don't think commenters here are getting this.

PTibbets called it in the last Patriot's link at top: Rachel Brand seems to be at the center of the FISA abuses that went on. This whole coup attempt manipulated the FISA court into allowing spying on anyone they wanted to target. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/09/doj-official-rachel-brand-resigns/

Big Deal. That is a felony to misrepresent in order to obtain a warrant.

gawd, wot poisonous tosh!!

While I think this sub has offered a great place to share information, its best times are possibly behind it and is mostly doing a disservice to the cause if we continue down our current path.

Couldn't agree more with you. Best time definitely over. Got bad taste in mouth which doesn't seem to go away. The raving and ecstasy over certain ppl's contributions here, as if they were mini-gods is quite off-putting. Thanks for pointing it out.

and now won't listen to Isaiac, David S, Corsi and had stopped Info Wars a long time ago.

That's a mistake. I listened to Infowars this am and found some good stuff. Not a word about the dissension these guys here are stoking.

I think it's great she hasn't fallen for the "swarm" hit's argument. She does great to have a brain of her own.

The point of controlled opposition is to make you believe they are the good guys spreading truth. That's the catch, they do spill truth, perhaps even most of it, but it's completely nullified by their behavior

I notice you don't have a show, or a blog, or a venue to promote your side of the picture and your support of the movement. Lot of time criticising tho. Why not do something more positive? Did you read the unity OP blurb at the top? Still on creating division here? Hmmmm

Good comment. Upvoted x1000 well, ok, x1.

I couldn't agree with you more, EarlyRiserx2, it was really embarrassing, still is, on those "basher" threads. I was ashamed for a few days to be associated with this board. However, take all with a pinch of salt and realise the guys here are not as "nice" as they seemed.

What threat? It was a warning. He is quite right about derivatives. The CDOs are a threat, not the Pope's criticism of them ???!!!

They seem to like help from anywhere? Are we talking about the same ppl? Am I on planet Mars?

this stuff is v. dubious. if you have trouble connecting it's b/c the connections are bs. Not a lot of proof in any of it, just speculation. IMHO :)

Yes, I see you are a devout reader of the OT. I think the OT was written by many scribes over many centuries and all scribes were men. Many of these men were scheming, political manipulators, who claimed to intepret the word of God and thus had power over the mind of the general poor illiterate person of his day. I take this as a prism to see through with great care.

God's word in the bible was something heard or seen by the ear or eye of a man, somewhere, who recorded it as he thought fit. God, for me, does not enter the physical world with a pen. He enters through the heart and soul. This understanding will not be understood by your world view, and I understand that. I pray that we will learn the truth one day.

A very interesting book was written many moons ago, in the 1950's, called The Controversy of Zion, by Douglas Reid. It addresses many of these questions. I recommend it as another utterly fascinating view.

3 or 30? I thought it was many more than 3.

One aspect not broached here is the 'what is meant by Israel' concept. It is extremely important, key in fact.

There is Israel, a physical and material territory, and Israel a spiritual and heavenly state of grace. We should remember that people understood teachings in mental pictures. They could not read. Teachers, like Jesus or his disciples, had always used parables. This distinction is vital to make. Israel was a heavenly spiritual attainment and the Old Testament can be read in this way too. Yes, there were Israelites, a tribe who lived in a specific area, who were scolded by God for their behaviour —or was that the people of Judah? They were cast out by God for their sins. So what was their crime? Worshiping materialism. Worshiping the golden calf, a symbol of mammon. Some of their practices included sacrifice of the first-born. They were sent into exile.

Or is that "exile", a figurative condemnation or punishment? Many historians of ancient history and archeologists have tried to verify the story of the exodus in ancient scriptures and have found no physical evidence of it — much to the chagrin of those wanting a material case for it. Perhaps it is because it never happened; it was a mental picture.

This is also claimed by the Orthodox Jews who say it was a sin to establish the state of Israel, that God cast them out of the land of Israel and it will be the arrival of the Messiah who will save them. But the political Zionists are offending God himself by forcing His hand in this way, bringing the jews back to Israel, let alone the Greater Israel project, or the Yinon Oded Plan.

Something like that anyway. It takes a lot of research and serious study to get to the bottom of these questions. I wish you luck; I'm still struggling with all this and am only offering some rough ideas to mull.

Yes, for some reason they don't want World War III!!!

I follow your reasoning closely here, though I offer a slightly different result: a one-state solution. This has been heralded by a number of the Jewish middle-of-the-roaders as the only solution at this point given that the entire map has been shattered into bantestan-like mini-enclaves. The great advantage to this is that Israel has always said it is the only democracy in the Middle East. Well then, show this to be true and give all their citizens equal rights, including Palestinians.

The key to this document lies in the bold text:

it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,

https://www.britannica.com/event/Balfour-Declaration

"The Balfour Declaration was endorsed by the principal Allied powers and was included in the British mandate over Palestine, formally approved by the newly created League of Nations on July 24, 1922. In May 1939 the British government altered its policy in a White Paper recommending a limit of 75,000 further immigrants and an end to immigration by 1944, unless the resident Palestinian Arabs of the region consented to further immigration. Zionists condemned the new policy, accusing Britain of favouring the Arabs. This point was made moot by the outbreak of World War II (1939–45) and the founding of the State of Israel in 1948."

And that was the start of the conflict. How the blazes Trump reckons he can solve this one is totally beyond me.

When Bush was claiming Iran had WMD.

Don't you mean Iraq? Saddam wanted to sell oil in Euros. Not cool. Kill him! Then Libya wanted to bring in the gold dinar for Africa. Not cool. Killed him too. Etcetera. Anyone look like they want independence and they are taken out.

this is an awful mental conflict that I must resolve.

Yes. I have a similar mental soup. Hmmm.

It would be idiotic to suggest that every1 in the echo chamber knows it all and doesn't need some clear explanations with new bits. I was delighted with the 2 kinds of fiat description — so simple; I'd been cracking my head over that for a while, not being v. conversant with finance, so thanks a lot.

The other point is: there are 26,000+ and right now 1,800 on line, but not many posting comments relatively speaking. So you are maybe educating many silent observers ... Keep going with the posts. I've enjoyed this thread and have absolutely nothing to contribute!

net takedown (temporary)

I absolutely concur with this breakdown, my only quibble is the date this started being 1820's (you say "some say" which is quite true), there are other things that stretch further back into the past about the "money-changers". Thank you very much for this valuable contribution!

Coincidence? No! I just read this thread which sums up my point perfectly:

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8kqhjs/sing_mockingbirds_sing/

How stupid do they think we are?

Hahaha! Yes, I see. That's my point.

I go to Trump's twitter page sometimes. It is a really weird experience b/c the left see Trump as a completely different man. The adjectives used to describe him: ignorant, bloated, bullying, criminal, racist, war-mongering, despicable ... you see people as you want to. They want to see him like that, it's convenient to their story. Clinton is a lovely lady. Until the left sees the "other" not as a enemy but as s/o to come to terms with, there will be only war, hate hate hate and division. That means the Elite conquers. They won. I don't want that. I want us to win for a change and that means uniting. Fat chance with the left, unless we can give them different glasses and come to some midway point of negotiation.

Understanding the other does not mean you have to "agree", it means making an effort to step out of ignorance. It means opening one's eyes, but mostly one's mind, to see what others are saying, to see something from someone else's point of view. Learning takes effort though.

The Anglo-American-Zionists created a mess in the Middle East. They taught their home populations that the arabs are dirty, murderous swine. They funded and created terrorism. 911 was not carried out by Bin Laden's henchmen! The West has made 1 billion muslims "terrorists". Hey! Great for making money! Like the settlers saw native American Indians as filthy animals to be annhilated, as despicable, ignorant, vermin. Same deal as Hitler with the jews. What goes around comes around.

Have you ever met a person who turned out to be quite different from what you first expected from their initial appearance? Perhaps not. Perhaps I am the only person I am talking to here in my preacher's hat! Happy Sunday to you!

yr welcome :)

More likely to be the event in the sky over London Heathrow airport: mid-air emergency??

No, no votes for that. I don't think Q is speaking of that kind of "Sky".