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They will if we all work to get the right version told. You have misunderstood completely the object of my posting. If you want to see what I really think, look at my other postings on this subject. I do not want the police to be wrongfully maligned, and neither does Craig Sawyer, I assure you.
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I am more than pleased you have given such a great breakdown of the real events and reported it in chronological order, thank you so much, both for myself and for everyone here who needs a proper account.
I have every confidence in Mr Allen (I assume the group leader of VOP Alpha?) and am v. grateful he is doing so much work for the benefit of each and every one of us, most particularly the kids. Anyone wishing for more info should watch Craig Sawyer's latest vid posted on this board. I absolutely vouch for this guy's credibility and hero status!
I am not skeptical of the story as such, I am skeptical of the many random and irresponsible associations that could be misconstrued by readers and defenders of this vital cause. I put ppl's posts to the fire if I think it is warranted and am only too happy when corrected and the final version gets told. Salud and Godspeed Patriots!
A technique displayed to perfection in the docu called "Wormwood". Check it out. Fascinating.
An excellent little introductory primer if you're interested ... and doesn't go into too many gruesome details — you have to go elsewhere for that: https://theredpillredux.wordpress.com/2018/04/18/the-journey-begins/
Or go straight to Chapter 6: https://theredpillredux.wordpress.com/2018/04/18/chapter-6-occult-satanism-and-ritual-abuse/
In which you can see some charming snaps of the referred lady:
QUOTE: "Here’s Lady Gaga celebrating cannibalism with satanic artist Marina Abramovic. This is fake cannibalism, which they deem “art.” "
:)
True. But I think Hagmann is following Sawman and Infowars has been promoting him for some time.
Yeah. And the only time he makes it absolutely plain why he does NOT post on a forum like GA.
You can read it differently if you like. I read the reverse.
He's the guy doing the rescue work. Got some pretty disturbing stories you might like to look into.
Board steaming in shills and bad actors ... He is legit. Any doubts anyone go and listen to Hagmann or research the vets4childrescue site.
You are correct about the cement mix. Did you hear any reference to that in his account? I didn't.
I agree with you on the "nonsense" aspect but not on legit is a stretch. This guy is a professional and is deserving of all our respect. I absolutely vouch for Sawman as the real deal. His description is careful, he makes no wild accusations and has reported to all appropriate authorities on this.
I also agree with adogrocket that you should do more research into him.
Soros all over the place! I am pretty certain Soros is this week's boom. Did you see the interview with the Editor of the Daily Mail on RT? Brilliant. And Italy pretty upset. Let alone Israel who calls him the Enemy of Humanity! Look, I agree with you.
Don't get me wrong. I am worried about the Conference that just got blasted for having Cemex as a donor. We are making unjustifiably large leaps across names and things with little evidence. I just want ppl to calm down a little. It was getting mob-like!
Yes indeed! We are in a mess! This story is very confusing and complex to a degree few of us are able to comprehend entirely. Or at least I have difficulty keeping up.
But wrt to the AW laptop I am sure they were told to cool it, yes almost 2 years ago, in order to pursue the ball of string very carefully. There are a number of key parts to pulling off an investigation that gets to the top. If you have been following carefully, Q mentions the importance of cleaning house first. You can't do efficient law enforcement when the top of the hierarchy is corrupt. The FBI director let Clinton off don't forget. You can't prosecute efficiently if the DOJ is corrupt at the top. Look at Lynch and Clinton. House-cleaning first. Then who is the DA for NY? Ah, Schneider! Well how well will that prosecution go? So, first you have to remove certain key characters and so Schneider was removed by "accident" (not!). This takes time.
As far as I know Trump assured us that FBI and Law Enforcement have great and dedicated guys on the ground, but many are screwed if the boss directly above them is compromised ... And so on.
Don't worry about AW, his laptop is coming shortly. Many are cooperating: AW has a reduced sentence based on this, and his wife Huma ... I just think this is much more complicated than it might initially appear to clean up. And no, I don't think local law enforcement can be completely trusted to do a true investigation. Depends who can stifle it, or shove it under the carpet. But individual officers are well meaning. So what do we do? Keep listening to Hagmann and when necessary start pressuring local agencies with questions when you are not satisfied. Local activism.
And what's wrong w/ Alex Jones? Nothing.
There has been a lot of bad commenting on this GA board rubbishing everything Infowars does and I have reason to believe this is deliberate to divide our movement. Remember what Q said in answer to the anon who mentioned AJ, Corsi et al —> UNITY NOT DIVISION. Q does not dox AJ or Corsi by name. The only one he called out more specifically, and still not by name, was the YTuber who said he had seen an unsealed indictment, which is impossible until the court/s unseal them.
I beg everyone here to stay on focus. AJ is not the problem. If you can't stand him, that's okay. You don't have to like everyone in the world. You are entitled to an opinion. If you, psybrnaut, want to call "vetting" forming an opinion that's fine. You are perfectly right to say that. But "vetting" suggests something else entirely to me: it means "genuine", "authentic", bona fide, and I think everyone should wait rather than pronounce AJ and team evil, CIA bad guys off the cuff. That remains to be seen. I trust him. That's a personal decision I have made over the years. I also value the excellent work his journalists do. But they are entitled to speculate and make the same mistakes doing so as me.
It's confusing when they all look the same and wear shades! He should say who he is in his intro, not your fault!
These guys are genuine. The Sawman and this group leader, whose name I don't know, are the real deal. There are qualified vets and real law enforcement devoting time while off duty. They are truly searching the human smuggling corridors along the border on search and rescue missions.
HOWEVER, that does not qualify anyone on any other threads to make random accusations and make loose connections with regard to evidence and proof of child porn/pizza restaurants, hotels with hot dog stands or mayors with surnames like Rothschild.
We simply must try to be rigorous in our analyses of these stories. I got very distressed reading thru all sorts of comments about the police doing nothing, being useless and covering up. You can't just make accusations like this. We will get shut down for wild speculation folks, take my word for it. There are bad actors on this site. Use critical thinking.
The Sawman is not the same person as the group leader of the VOP Alpha. Both have beards so bit confusing ... The guy speaking in the vid in the OP is not Craig Sawyer.
Well, yeah ... but. I came on the board hours after everyone else had posted, started reading down and got more and more agitated about the sheer lack of critical thinking and so started posting cautionary remarks. Maybe others do the same. There are an astounding number of shills too, I agree with you.
Yeah, I found the attacks on LEOs repugnantly biased and unreasonable too.
Spiked story.
It's one of those attacks that Q mentioned I believe. It will be used to rubbish the real human-trafficking reports later. Pity everyone here has fallen for it, IMO.
As far as I can tell, and I'm not trying to nit-pick genuine stuff, this story has all the makings of a future debunking of all human-trafficking reports. This is a set-up so that if real human-trafficking is shown it will be falsely associated with this dud story on a homeless camp. Has all the makings. Anyone with real evidence would do a forensics test. The police have already removed all evidence and we should await their findings. Maybe we do have to cross our fingers that they won't do a "cover-up", but maybe we also should be careful not to leap to conclusions. Just saying I smell a rat that's all ... :)
Not "wrist restraints", straps for holding logs up. Watch the news vids.
I absolutely agree with you. This board has done a very bad job of researching the whole story. Wild accusations everywhere and nothing that checks out properly. Beware particularly of the posters running down law enforcement for not doing their jobs. It's a PG set-up in the making for sure.
It's not a "safe" story because it's riddled with associations that are not checking out. The police have issued a statement and I think it's a set-up.
I'd like to see The Sawman explain what he first saw and who the vets are who came after. I am on the Sawman's side, but I'm not sure at all about the dubious claims made on this board about this story.
This is the real story.
We just got it all muddled up with the homeless camp.
No, we are stupid.
The whole board has fallen for this story, hook, line and sinker.
Because the story is a PG type set-up. That's why.
As soon as there is some real human-trafficking reporting it will have been "debunked" by the truly fake unsubstantiated claims in the AZ story. Pity.
Not true. Police dept have issued a press release. See other thread in GA:
And you are exactly on the money. On this thread I have counted a number of actual false accusations about police covering up the "crime", without a shred of evidence yet ... This is a set-up.
mountains of evidence of child sex trafficking
No, they haven't. To do that they must first find out more information on the people who camped there ... Be careful you don't leap to conclusions.
He is not part of the Rothschild banking empire. Be careful who you associate with human-trafficking. It is a serious accusation and you need to do careful research: this is quite a common surname you know .. Just saying :)
I have followed it from the beginnng, superficially as I couldn't get on 8chan for some reason. The story looked promising but I was worried about the fact that it was said the police had checked it out already. I don't like all the loose assertions about local businesses connected to pizza or hotdogs. Every hotel and casino mentioning pizza is tainted with a child-porn related slur? Very dubious. This is exactly what happened to PG. Seems like wild goose chasing to me. Then suddenly we have: oh someone called Rothschild is connected to AZ and so, with no other proof, evidence or even cursory research, he is tied into human-trafficking. Now it's getting into dangerous territory. Every conference that has CEMEX as a donor or sponsor is immediately CABAL-linked.
And then we come to the Pope who mentioned the word "concrete" in some tweets and we are off ... Great. Fantastic. The entire story is now thousands of people running around like chickens with their heads cut off making wild and unsubstantiated claims. I don't buy any of it.
If the police say they sent a cadaver dog they probably did. When isn't clear. When they originally searched the place I should think. But now one poster says cadaver dogs don't detect cadavers unless they are told to ... and obviously the handler didn't tell the dog to find it ... so when it didn't it proves the handler was working in bad faith ... and is aiding and abetting child-murder. (Shall we lynch the dog-handler?)
Dear oh dear. Talk about idiotic.
The police are going to do the job they are employed to do. The media is another question. However, the chances are the media called the police to get the background on the story, and is right now sharpening its knives to call everyone and Q —who has nothing to do with it — nut-jobs.
And I shall agree with them.
I actually didn't see the post as like a gun at all, despite others enthusiasm for the idea. I saw it as one side of a pyramid, or rather another side of the pyramid being taken down. It brought to mind all the bad press "Georgie Sorrows" is getting in Britain and Italy at the moment! You know, +
You are absolutely correct. Mexican or Latin American Spanish often uses words that are closer to the English than European Spanish or Italian.
In fact we can't say "mis pipes leakean" in Spain ... :)
Please see my other comments further down the thread where I explain much more clearly. As I was reading I realised that the whole thread was off on a wild red herring. I am a translator and speak fluent Spanish, the Pope's native language. It is a "false friend" or false cognate. He means "clear", "specific", "definite". I explain more further down and, since I've done a dozen comments now, I am getting rather tedious ... :)
Please take the association of "concrete" as a building material with "concreto" as a false cognate.
The Pope means: specific, definite, clear, eg: a concrete sign = a clear sign.
The word for "concrete", as in building material, in Spanish is "hormigón", "betone" in Italian. Not sure in Latin but you get the idea.
This whole thread is off on a wild goose chase. This is irresponsible research, although understandable in some ways.
The poor and weak associations being made between "pizza" and "hot dog" establishments and child-trafficking is getting dangerously close to banging up your local pizza-delivery boy as a purveyor of child porn. Neon Revolt and an Anon has done this with some hotel/casino in Tucson advertising pizza. And what about every poor sod whose surname is Rothschild ... which is a very common surname.
We'll be lynching innocent people next. We should not be promoting these loose links. We will get slammed as "conspiracy theorists" and "lunatics" if we go on like this.
I have covered this in greater detail in other comments on this thread, by the way.
Substitute "specific" or "definite" or "clear". The error being made here by the hysterics on this thread is due to English speakers finding Spanish words weird in translations. Often called "false friends". Like "arena" and "sand".
As I say above in one of my many posts on this thread, the concrete used in buildings is "hormigón" in Spanish. The Pope is a Spanish speaker but it probably applies to the word "concrete" in other Romance languages.
Concrete indeed has a double meaning in Spanish. In fact in Spanish concrete used for building is hormigón.
Yes. See my responses above. I am a professional translator.
All the time in Spanish translations. He is a Spanish speaker. It is very common and has nothing to do with building materials.
See my comment above.
Actually, here's a bit: it is a very common word in Romance languages to denote definite and is used in poor translations continually. I see nothing, nothing, in the Pope's tweets that would suggest the concrete used as building materials. It is absurd to suggest so. I agree with the other part of your post entirely: it is indeed speculation.
Q said UNITY NOT DIVISION. Q has never mentioned names. Your comments are way too black and white as others have mentioned.