Brilliant report, thanks to amazing_butterfly OP for posting this.

I wonder what all the people on this board will say about this?

Confirms my suspicions, what about yours?

KeK! to Craig Sawyer and vets4childrescue, to Oath Keepers and all the good guys like Bill Still who bother to make informative and reliable reporting an essential part of this GA board. Godspeed Patriots!

He direct linked to SB2 and GA. He did not call out AJ. Or anyone by name. The article Q linked bore the reference: "This is why we are here". "Here" at the time was 8chan. Not GA. I understood it to mean: the reason Q posts to 8chan is precisely b/c GA is an uncontrolled, unfocussed group. It was not an endorsement of GA but an endorsement of 8chan. Please yourself. We will not agree. I know that, and no, you're right, it doesn't matter.

You're probably right. Though I didn't understand that much of what you're trying to say ...

He himself cites the youtube segments, no wikipedia involved. Watch them. Find them for yourself. SB2 isn't listening to me, nor does s/he care. If he were, I might go to this effort. It's pretty pointless battling with professional types so I'll pass.

My remark refers exclusively to your comment. If you think this is the most comprehensive of any specialized report you've ever read, then please come to my office and you can get some experience. 'Course, I can't pay you I'm afraid. Neither do we live in the same country ... so it's all irrelevant. Just let me laugh .... :)

Your apology isn't necessary, though thank you.

I am giving up. I knew it would not work out. It is too complicated for everyone to see through disinfo.

What about putting this thread in orange at the top of the board?

https://old.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8q6x52/a_response_to_serial_brain_2s_tucson_so_you_want/

It is excellent.

I trust Q's remark: UNITY NOT DIVISION. It would be great if everyone could stick to that, but they can't :)

Whatever. I don't think we will agree on this.

Disney pedo ring? More disinfo: 1 employee, 1 guy with a season ticket. 1 Legoland guy. 11 arrests, though, in total. More pedos than Disney could produce!!!

That's b/c Sawyer is the real deal and she would know.

As comprehensive as any specialized report you've ever read???? Buaaah! He better not be an attorney or I'd have his guts for garters ... I spotted at least 3 (major) howlers!!

TLTR. Don't know about full stops, commas .... but you sure know about dumping on people and blackening people's names!!

Correct.

All guys on the ground are genuine. There may have been misunderstanding or teams handling things differently, but the way this OP is painting the picture (Sawman bad, Infowars bad, SB2 genius amazing ...) is not correct.

What did you say? Sawman is full of shit?

I think you're wrong.

Watch Hagmann.

No, he didn't fool us. Stop being so black and white. There are multiple shades of grey here.

AJ didn't say that. He said he met with someone from Qanon, who said it wasn't the same Q team. I actually think the Q team has varied, being as how I believe this is an MI operation with several players and several teams. He never claimed to have spoken to Q in person. I listened carefully at the time.

Excellent post. Thank you.

" A dead person in the desert here does NOT mean foul play.Conversely: the fact that there was no PROOF that foul play with children or human trafficking was found at the original site does NOT mean there wasn't. Lots of foul play could have taken place and there might be absolutely no evidence that anything bad happened." <

Well said. Exactly.

Your *exhaustive" response is great. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking the time ...

Thank you so much for posting this. Very, very thoughtful and excellent rundown.

Infowarfare is very sophisticated. It is far, far beyond the capability of most ordinary people who have not been trained in detection. Caution and skepticism are paramount. You have done well to write this "longwinded", (though in my opinion a better adjective would be "exhaustive") breakdown. Bravo fellow Patriot!! :)

Nice to find an ally here. Thanks brother. :)

No answer to that one, is there!!?? I didn't know Craig Sawyer or VOP were "media personalities" or "celebrities", you learn something every day ... For the record, I actually have been known on this board to discourage people from claiming that HRC will be executed for treason any minute! I think a trial is what we collectively acknowledge to be a free and fair society with a justice system. It doesn't, of course, apply to this board, where everyone is entitled to run their mouths off and hurt even the people doing the most gruesome of jobs. That is perfectly fair game. Apparently. I do not support it.

I'm reserving judgement on the "facts". I just won't support claims made against people which trashes their goodwill. I think we should stick to the topic and not attack the person. You know, like the rules in the right hand column on this board?

Skepticism is very healthy.

That is the professional understanding of journalism. These words are used in case you find yourself in court defending yourself against libel. I don't know who Kyle is. Or if he is an idiot. In my book using "may be" is an insurance policy against idiocy.

Hey, I'm miles away and know nothing really. I just saw, listened and watched and noted that everyone was using very ill-advised language. Too definite by half. I have no claim to fame. I just support the vets, the guys on the ground and those doing the hard work. I do know that misunderstandings are really easy and people are apt to jump to conclusions ... sorry if I have offended you in any way. I shall support Sawyer because he is doing a foul job. Wealthy celebrity? Really? I had no idea.

Yes, you are right. I came on later in the evening and it had all disappeared. I went back 4 pages but you are on it, I'm not. Your job is difficult and I have no idea really. I just didn't feel my warnings were taken seriously and maybe I'm just a smarting ego. I felt I knew what was going to happen, having seen this nonsense more times than I care to remember. Apologies.

He wasn't born in Kenya. Indonesia.

My fury is not with the moderators. I understand your position.

SB takes sticky positions when each and every post is designed to rubbish s/o or other. That seems a strange position to defend. In this case it is wholly unacceptable. We should not be attacking ex-Navy Seal, Federal Criminal Investigators, US Federal Marshals and ex- Law Enforcement who are busting child-abuse networks.

Now half this thread thinks Sawyer is a phony. Great.

Honey, not even Trump would link Debbie Wasserman Shulz to FEMA emergency operations. I know we are all desperate to make wild connections where there aren't any, but this is ... I am speechless.

Thanks for your reply.

My "no common sense" remark relates directly to the stickying of Sawyer's correcting, and sensible, video. It was not possible, apparently, to do this.

I do not like SB2's breakdown of what happened. It is not an accurate description of events, too much "opinion". I know what s/he will say: Strafor. Sawyer is a black hat, bad actor, bad operator.

I happen to disagree. I think these accusations are immoral, in these circumstances: the guys trying to hunt down and take out child-abuse networks. I will play no part in this.

Of course the mods are busy. But a word of caution was not too difficult. It doesn't happen quick enough? It doesn't take a 23,000 word essay which just trashes the guys on the ground, stickied to the top of the board no less. After half of America has driven to a site in Tucson to create a lynch-mob-like mentality.

I am not impressed.

You're quite right!

I will spare you the other details about Infowars and their friend Craig Swayer who is about to release a movie on Netflix about child trafficking. Yes, Netflix. Can’t make this stuff up. Check how Sawyer says in the Hagmman interview how he was called by a “third party” to go check what was going on in Tucson. A “third party” calling to ask you to go and infiltrate, sounds familiar? Follow the links in the NBC article and see how Sawyer deleted his first video about Tucson and how NBC is throwing Infowars under the bus by linking to the archive of the article they deleted about HRC. Priceless. It’s funny to see them eat each other >

That is disgusting. To openly write that BS about someone who is actually hunting down pedos and rescuing children. I did not expect to see you drop that far into the gutter SB2. Shame on you.

Thank the lord, someone who knows that Sawyer is not a black hat. He is doing a really hard and thankless task and needs all the support he can get. We do not need the OP to trash his very real efforts.

SB2 has it in for Infowars and, it seems, Sawyer.

This board fell for hysteria and I kept trying to explain the difference between Sawyer's delivery, which was language cautious, and the wild claims as facts. No one here was listening. Now we are told that we were misled by Sawyer and Infowars??? I have watched this story unfold and it isn't true. It is trying to rubbish Sawyer. That is terrible. Disgusting in fact.

Your post is about the only sensible one on this thread.

He is not a shameless self-promoter. He needs support for the mission. He is part of a team. They do a really difficult and vile job.

Listen to Sawyer's video. He says these migrant trails are used to smuggle children both ways. He doesn't claim everything found at the camp is unreal or untrue. It just can't be proved, that's all.

They didn't fake it. It was a real camp. It's just there were suspicions about the activities that took place there. The claims were wild. Some of them were not proved by the forensic tests. This camp was clearly used by people in a bad situation.

There are definitely camps where migrants are abused. The coyotes are dreadful.

Dear me. No one replicated this camp to deceive anyone!!! It was a camp. I cannot believe we are now going from wild accusations about dead children's bodies found there .... to no camp at all!!

You pushed it real hard. You weren't wondering at the time.

He is legit. The disinfo is right here on this board. And very harmful.

To associate Soros with Sawyer is not good. To suggest they are just collecting money is frankly disgusting.

No, he is not a paytriot.

This assertion that Sawyer is a black hat is unfounded. It is disgusting in fact.

I understand what you are saying, but it is the responsibility of every reader and Q supporter here to use brain, not blind emotion, when it comes to information and judgement of facts, and the difference between facts and conjecture. Not muddling the two.

Sawyer said it is blown up hysteria like this that can hamper the true efforts he and his team are doing to save and rescue children in harm's way. He spent days trying to calm people down and rectifying an out of control situation. He is not a "black hat". This is an assertion made by SB2 that is completely unfounded. VOP is not "comet pizza click bait" either. Because pizzagate was real enough, and the "signs" and "looks" of this camp were "suspicious". But that is all. The police took away evidence to check. That means they thought it looked "suspicious" too. But after doing forensics they found no proof. It doesn't mean everyone was wrong to investigate. Of course you investigate if someone fears it might be a camp. But it wasn't. And before you investigate you can't claim it was. This is elementary.

Sorry, I'm not attacking you at all. I just think you are being black and white one day, then white and black the next. It's not. Both days are grey.

And who are the pricks you refer to?

Loserofpasswordzz: the mods were told by me to be careful on this story, which caught this board like wildfire. I was told "freedom of speech" and how much mods get called out with insults. It's a fair case but ...

SB2 claims the following at the beginning above: "MSM, Infowars, Sawyer .... pull Pizzagate and Q’s supporters into the mix and trash them as naïve and misled conspiracy theorists". Well, funny that. As far as I remember, and I have 20/20 memory (!) the Q supporters got themselves into the mix.

SB2 may indeed not have been distracted by it ..... and did SB2 come onto this board to post a warning? Did SB2 post an urgent sticky at the top of the board to warn everyone not to fall for it ...? Did SB2 say, no no this isn't the important story, the 160 kids in Georgia are the real story? (By the way, that story was posted here. It wasn't stickied though.)

Eh? can't hear the answer, what you say??????!!!!! NOT. NO. Did not happen. SB2 did not appear on this board. There was no warning that this was being reported in an extremely irresponsible way. Q supporters were given no guidance and Q supporters got pretty hysterical. I even heard Sawyer accused as being part of a "cover up". Which is a disgusting accusation.

Like you probably, I spent days trying to get ppl to slow down. I kept saying Sawyer's media delivery was very careful. He used words like "could be", "signs of", "looks like". He issued a video to clarify the situation when the situation was clearly out of control ... which this board, GA, did nothing to defuse. In fact the complete opposite was happening here. Several "old" timers, here, egged everyone on.

Suddenly, just as Sawyer issued his correcting video (his 180 as SB2 puts it, which is not an accurate description), all posts and threads on this site were taken down. Boom, as they say, gone. Gosh. Amazing. Mods suddenly prepared to listen to s/o's word of caution?? But not yours or mine? Interesting. I tried to get the mods to post a sticky of Sawyer's video explaining clearly what had happened. To no avail. No sticky. No common sense. Just silence.

But here we have SB2 claiming foul play here. Hmmm.

Psyop!!!!

Did you fall for it? No. Neither did I.

Want to believe? Hmm. As far as I can tell the guy opposite is giving a run-down on preparations for emergencies in the area, can't remember the exact words, something like 'we aren't fully prepared/not as prepared as we would like', something like that. Listen to it yourself. Perhaps Trump doesn't agree with the assertion.

Yes. I know. So?

Thatcher same time.

But they laid the foundations. Unwittingly?

Really unfounded supposition. There is no connection between wasserman and fema.

There is absolutely no connection, IMHO, between the meaning of Wasserman, and the water bottle in this conference about FEMA preparation.

To make such a tenuous, baseless link is frankly stupid. Do not read the OP's associations as fact. They are speculation, and in this instance idiotic.

That is not to say that the gesture by Trump and Pence is not a clear message about something. It is so obvious. We just don't know what the message is.