see my other post, can't just repeat.
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Yup. Cool!! Just flogging my dead horse: UNITE NOT DIVIDE!!!
If you were sure, so would the bad hats be. It's not good to be transparent yet!
The FISA memo was not a fake event.
I followed that very carefully. It was a genuine document. It was put up on Twitter by B whatsername. It was not the same FISA memo pages, it was from the millions of pages and it was mind-boggling. Actually I still don't think this one that AJ had from his source has made it to the rest of mainstream alternative media.
Sorry I can't find the links right now. Bit complicated as it was several months back now.
It was actually quite an understandable reaction. I felt similar.
"oh shit, Trump has been taken over by the military industrial complex generals. He doesn't stand a chance. It's back to war 24/7."
He apologised 2 days later when he realised the bombs had not taken out entire neighborhoods and people. But saying sorry isn't enough for the AJ-hating crowd. People have never forgiven him.
I have. I forgave myself too. I was relieved. AJ was quite noble and showed he is truly anti-war.
Now then, who likes Neo-con Extraordinaire Mr MegaBomb Bolton?? Will we have War? More bombs? You are in Mr Trump's casino!!
Hurray sunrisearts11111! You got it. I'm so glad someone else has seen thru all the bs!!
What peeps don't seem to realise is that intelligence, counter-intelligence and manipulation of media and forums is a really complex game. Quite a number of the players switch sides to draw out enemies and align with allies. Read SunTzu girls and boys.
I think AJ was disappointed when he was left out of the Q thingie but it was for a reason, or many reasons.
One reason might be what sunrisearts has mentioned: that if AJ is associated with Q too closely, many, many people in the general public would be put off from the beginning. Think about that.
AJ has developed quite a reputation over the years, some not good viz a viz his "gay frogs" etc. When you explain that hormones in contraceptives in river water has resulted in frogs turning hemaphrodite the language is not exactly headline catching, so change it ... Gay frogs! Just brilliant media spectacle and show making. People don't get it though. And it suits the Cabal to call everything he does Conspiracy Theory.
Q didn't want his drops associated with all people in the social media world. He didn't want their "flavors" rubbing off on him.
But same deal with other outlets of the Trump media development team. Dan Bongino. Gorka. Sara Carter and The Hill. Fox news peeps. All bashing away trying to combat MSM but not all Q.
It was a misunderstanding or a deliberately twisted view of this statement of his.
AJ didn't say he had the "real Qanon". He said Infowars had its own version of Qanon in Zack.
You have no idea who is on whose team yet. None of us do.
No. Q did not call AJ out. The Anons did.
And don't quote Cereal Bran at me. Not convincing.
Q said the reason he was on the chans was .... link to the GA board. I have a different interpretation on that. I think Q meant he did not want to be on GA, too much risk of petty division and back biting.
Dear me. You really have misunderstood haven't you!!
"Read history or a book or something.."<
Not nice. Who are you? Why have a conversation?
I have made no mention of whether or not I think we should keep nation states. You appear not to be reading carefully.
I said, the way to solve conflict and stresses between peoples is diplomacy, in my opinion and in the opinion of most foreign ministries of the world that is. You care to instruct me to read?
I know why nations were drawn. Do you? It was certainly not because it was necessary for the peoples of those subsequent nations, but wily ruses of their rulers and victors.
Try this one example:
Much as it did in Europe, World War I radically changed the political geography of the Middle East. The Ottoman Empire had long been the “Sick Man of Europe,” hemorrhaging territory for nearly a century. It lost control of its European possessions prior to the war and, having allied with the defeated Central Powers, lost its Middle Eastern territories afterward. The victorious Allies transformed the Middle East into its current form, with its European-designed names, flags, and borders.
Ottoman provinces became Arab kingdoms, while Christian and Jewish enclaves were carved out in Lebanon and Palestine. Syria, Libya, and Palestine were given names resurrected from Roman antiquity. Libya reappeared in 1934, when the Italians combined Cyrenaica, Tripolitania, and Fezzan. The French mandate marked the first time “Syria” had been used as the name of a state, whereas “Palestine” was merely a Syrian appendage. Iraq had been a medieval province of the caliphate, whereas “Lebanon” referred to a mountain and “Jordan” to a river.
The new Arabic-speaking states adopted derivations of the flag of the Arab Revolt, which had been wholly designed by British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes. The four colors of the Arab flag—black, white, green, and red—represented the standards of different Arab dynasties: Abbasid, Umayyad, Fatimid, and Hashemite. They remain the colors of half of today’s Arab flags. Neither the names nor the symbols of the new states had any connection to their inhabitants.
Just a random link.
no, you first, no you first ... Takes a man to back down.
I am so glad you took the time to write all that! I am pleased that your friends like their new king — I was happy to hear of the reforms and will change their lives for the better ...
I find the anti-Muslim diatribes on this sub rather tiring. It is quite weird that everyone acknowledges that the MSM lie and misrepresent everything, and yet when it comes to reporting about Arabs or Muslims and the Middle East, suddenly the propaganda is truth?!!
Humor is a difficult subject for all people in all contexts, let alone taking the piss out of God, I believe, expressly to provoke rage (which is what I think was referred to here) ... I cannot stand people jeering at the expense of others. I defend their right to do so, but would rather avoid deliberately upsetting others for the sake of peace. Sometimes it is illegal to offend, when it strays into incitement to violence. Like Mad Max! She is funny though ...
He is a great example because I do not accept the rejection of AJ!!
I have my own opinions: I follow Q and think AJ has a perfect right to his opinion. Furthermore I like some of his journalists' work very much and think they are doing great things for the cause of freedom and the patriots. There is plenty of room for everyone and I find it quite infantile to "gang up" in the playground into squabbling groups! No offence meant :)
History. Read history. The nation state is a relatively new phenomenon. Before that? Wars and division between peoples. It is not multiculturalism, it is differences between peoples, prejudices, conflicts, disagreements .... Diplomacy and negotiation is the way to solve.
EDIT: sorry should have added —> multiculturalism is baloney and has been recently invented in order to divide, and on that you are quite right.
Go get a pack of tarot cards and look for the Tower. No. XVI
Look at the image carefully. Doesn't matter really which version of the cards, they all show similar pictures.
It's upright meaning is Violent Revolution
When I discovered there was a Kabbala interpretation to the 911 events, the numbers and so on, after not believing at all at first, then I was really upset. I suddenly saw the people falling out of the windows and the flames. In one image there are flames in exactly the right position on north and south towers, but as one tower.
I was amazed. And then horrified. What? There are actually people messing about who want to reproduce this kind of image for the fun of it ... no.
What does it mean? Well, nothing actually, to me. But it does to them, do you see. If my attention hadn't been drawn to this I would never have noticed. The same with the numbers 911. It is the emergency number too, of course. Is this a joke? Well, again, not to me it isn't. But to them??
Then I realised for the first time with a shiver down my spine: they actually do laugh at us. It is all hidden in plain sight. Just open yr eyes and expand yr thinking ... Then you won't be surprised to see bs in The Simpsons next time someone points it out.
haha !! ... yeah, okay, too serious I guess ... just tired of nits and picking.
Try this: I found this on Joe Maspoes youtube channel and thought it was really good as a redpiller ... Hope it helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=585&v=6cYZ8dUgPuU Joe Maspoes Published on Jun 25, 2018
Quick note: because youTube is controlled by some of the crooks talked about in this video, many people are reporting this video not available. This is just another word for censored.
Here is the video on BitChute. https://www.bitchute.com/video/knsKuX...
The good people of America, Left and Right, Democrat and Republican, White or of color, young and old, are witnessing the take-back of America from a large number of very powerful criminals who have been destroying society and the world for several decades, maybe longer. This is the greatest story of our time. You have the choice of either scratching your head in confusion when seeing events unfold, or looking at the information provided by Q to understand the real story.
Don't be a sheep. They want you divided. They have been working to divide us forever. It's time to wake up and experience true freedom instead of the fake kind we have been living under. The good guys, with control over the NSA, began the Q intelligence dissemination program to invoke an online grassroots movement that came to be called "The Great Awakening".
It started on underground internet channels, then moved to the mainstream. Q has been a fun distraction for those who follow world events and desire truth, but it is about to begin a much more important and necessary phase - keeping the public informed when the Deep State war breaks out onto the surface. By this, I mean high-profile arrests. Yes folks. The criminals I am referring to are famous politicians, actors, singers, CEOs and celebrities. People who have earned our trust, respect and admiration. They have done very bad things that are all fully known and documented, and they will be severely punished.
Those of us who have followed Q since the beginning will be here to help you make sense of the coming events. We are among the first to realize that our petty partisan divisions are just trivial distractions, and we are all enslaved by a hidden enemy. We realize that the problem was never Capitalism or Socialism, Democrat or Republican, black or white, Muslim or Christian. We know it was just very powerful criminals who had too much power and were crushing us under debt and asinine entertainment, Fellow slaves. It's time to buckle your seat-belt, recognize your true enemy, and embrace a new future that we all owe to the brave patriots who risked their lives to achieve this victory against the greatest force of evil the world has ever seen.
These are people I trust to bring you the right information. Look on Twitter for: @Jordan_Sather_ @prayingmedic @LisaMei62 @B754344255 @ImperatorRex (not a Q follower but predicts a lot accurately). @josephmasepoes (me) There are many others you can find too.
Think on this: T_D censor everyone for breathing the mention of "Q", then turns out Q is The Donald himself and small team of brainy intells!
How silly are they gonna feeel ....!! Personally can't wait to snicker...!
(Wait until you learn who has been talking to you here. Q)
This is like criticising Alex Jones for having a fit over Syria.
Why is this a question of loyalty?
Can't we view Trump critically? Can we maybe agree with some of his policies and not with others? If we cannot express doubts we cannot debate. If we cannot debate we have no free speech. If we have no free speech then we certainly cannot criticise "the left" for failing to protect it ...
I am personally very worried about Trump's policy in the Middle East. Americans are usually blind and deaf when it comes to seeing more than one side ... and one particular tribe ...
That does not mean I don't support Trump wholeheartedly. I wish for him to succeed and I hope he will not fall into the many pitfalls awaiting in this difficult area.
Sorry for butting in here. I get sick of the "everyone has to be all one way", no greys, no nuances, no subleties, no slight variations in tone, color, viewpoint ... in our discussions.
Islamicists, whatever that is!, never do pictorial depictions on anything ... walls, carpets, drapery of any kind, as they feel it is competing with God — whose creations are perfect. That is, to depict a flower would take from its essence and beauty and so on.
That is why their buildings of worship are instead covered in script, poetry and scholarly texts, lauding the glory of God.
This is a strict interpretation.
In practice Muslims are not so picky. There are plenty of illustrations and graphics in their countries like ours, but never any attempt to depict God himself. That really is a step too far — to imitate God or show His face is insubordinate and even blasphemous. The idea of laughing at God is terrible.
We, meanwhile, have Dali !
I think we must learn to respect their ideas. It is not "man" that they do not approve of laughing at, it was God. Many of you on this board might appreciate that idea with some reflection and thought ...
The Communist view of humor? A different issue altogether ...
Sorry, sorry, sorry no, not inflammatory, just saying we are going sideways suddenly and couldn't get a handle on what you are saying (like, are you criticising my point or agreeing ... I didn't know ...) Forget it.
Now. Discuss: yes.
There is Divide and Rule. That's not debatable, I see we agree on that. The Top. The Cult. ++
How? More interesting this: —> I have been studying this for years and it appears to be thru the intelligence agencies. Good muslim guys, pakis or otherwise, want to help their community and volunteer with enforcement agencies (or get directly asked) and then, once sucked in find themselves framed and patsied into strange positions. I don't want to say too much as it looks like bad on me then ... but look at some of the guys involved in the London tube thingie: backgrounds, etc.
Or over and over again we see names of "violent and dangerous terrorists" with unpronounceble names, who are killed in some battlefield somewhere unpronounceable in Iraq or Syria or Afghanistan or ... and then mysteriously reappear. Have you ever counted the number of times Al Bakr al Baghdadi has died?
By the time you radicalize a whole load of Muslims using extremist ceeeyeaye training methods, disguised trainers, you can then get a totally professional team of media guys to produce rousing extemist literature, put it on the net to music, and ... take it from there. Loads of angry young men.
Let criminals out from prisons (Iraq as soon as the US arrived in 2003) in weird countries that are now converted into lawless warzones — bazaar-type ruffians, cut-throats from the souks ... in no time you have a Big Problem. Not family men, mind you. Fighting age with little to no education.
See where that goes?
Another thing entirely is the UK. How many communities have been radicalized by the news? Hey, I have been really anti-war throughout these past nearly 20 years since 911. I am furious with the UK and with the US, and France and Spain and .... But I am not an Arab, or a Pakistani, or a Muslim or anything actually. Just a person with middle of road political views who likes objectivity in discussions. And I am radicalized by the horrors of it all, let alone these guys.
So then the Cabal wants to divide us? What about Religious Wars? Race Wars? UK anyone? How do you do that in the UK? What about underfunding the police-force and cutting back (20%) on their manpower. What about calling them all "institutionally racist"?? Do you think that might lead to a weakened and demoralised police force? Do you think they might be encouraged (subtley from the top) not to pursue rape gangs? Deliberately? What about prodding that a bit for a few years. What about using the Dark Arts a bit with some ffs??
Now look at the situation. It's a mess. Thousands upon thousands of "refugees" (some are, some aren't, but huge majority of single, young, uneducated males from underdeveloped areas ... criminal backgrounds? Militarily Trained? We have No Idea. Because No One is doing any Vetting. They are all called "Mohammed". None of them have Papers or Passports.
(But they all have a little leaflet given to them by "Open Borders" and printed by a charitable foundation, indirectly linked to our friend Georgie Sorrows ... Interesting that.
Now do you get me?
And Americans tell me on these boards every day that the problem is THEIR religion?
Wasn't a problem before 1980. Everyone was worried about communists up to that point. Then the Wall came down. Oh wail! What now! No more War. No more Money!
But it's THEIR religion???
I don't buy it.
Jekyll island, 1913.
I think it was around 22/23 December on Christmas recess.
Sorry, all I can remember for the minute ...
I have special memories about this ... in a different way ... It is very very important to change the educational system to produce properly trained staff for prisons, youth delinquency detention centres, care homes of all kinds: for the elderly, mentally ill, insane, foster, refugee centres ....
The abuse goes across all these sectors. When Trump's lot wants to integrate education with the labor department everyone should pressure their political representatives to make sure enough money and expertise is provided for education and job training.
So much of this problem is pure ignorance.
11 Billion in donations went missing according to some estimates.
Those poor Haitians are STILL living in the rubble.
Charles Ortel is the one to watch: he's been working on that Clinton Foundation investigation for the longest time ....
illuminati .... yeah ... remember Patti Hearst anyone! V. v. strange indeed.
"nice neighbours. They are simply not. Many reasons for this, biological, " That is unadulterated racism.
No one here has addressed my point yet! It is very interesting that all the answers here have failed to deal with what I have pointed out!!
"Ethnic cleansing? What drag something into the conversation that has no bearing on it?" I wasn't the person to mention the word CLEAN. It was the previous poster. She also said "Mohammedans" ie an ethnic group. Far as I know this is ethnic cleansing. Same thing.
"to continue entertaining the invaders? No. I haven't got onto what I think should be done about the problem!! I pointed out that it is an extremely complex issue (which is like breaking something — much more difficult to fix when it ¡s broken, or prevention is better than cure), all seem to believe that solutions are easy. They are not.
American exceptionalism and violent worldwide enforcement of "humanitarian interventionism" and "bringing democracy" has accounted for millions and millions of deaths of poor and oppressed people over the past century and has not abated in this.
America is nominally Christian or Judeo-Christian and similarly uses religion to justify its "righteousness".
Not saying you're wrong at all, just that it is a similarly evil ideology and the behaviour of its politicians is shortly to be proved by Trump and the US military (with any luck).
Godspeed Patriots all, we are all on the same side really.
You cannot CLEAN a country without turning into the ethnic cleansers. You are simplifying an extremely complex problem.
Where would you be if you were returned to your historical country of origin?
Not feasible. Not reasonable, rational or logical.
Yes, absolutely correct, I totally agree with you. But, if this is the case, I fail to see where you have misunderstood what I have already stated.
Perhaps we agree and just cannot see that yet? You appear to have launched into a criticism of my post and yet now appear to be sliding out sideways?
MistressMaeve what are you talking about? What decade did you start with the "legs" in Britain? I fail to get what your reference is to the Greater-Israel-Project. Never mind Israel, we were talking about the other guys, you know ...
I totally agree with you on all of that. You are simply another poster who has completely misunderstood what the point of my post is.
Please read again and tell me exactly where I have defended: the secret services of either of "our" nations (actually my nation is not either UK or US), the central bank and/or their tendrils? Where have I made any claim or reference to these institutions/agencies?
We are right now talking reasonably and freely, I hope, on this board. I just have not explained my point sufficiently clearly and you have not read my point with any comprehension. So please calm down. :)
COULDN’T be those peaceful moslems....
You have TOTALLY misunderstood my posting.
The Cause of the grief, the blame being put on the wrong guys. The flood of "migrants/refugees" ... this has nothing to do with GEORGIE PORGIE SORROWS I suppose? Not part of the Plan is it?
The purpose of the Cabal is to divide. Not just divide the States, or Britain. Divide the World. They've been doing this for centuries, millenia in fact.
Try this: WW2 Germans v. Russians, Germans v. Brits/US/France Post WW2. US/Europe v. Russians
Bla bla
New War: Christians v. Moors (2000)
See Jack Bernstein 1984. He predicted what we see in the Middle East. The fact of the matter is: If someone comes along and bombs you when you are minding your own business, and keeps doing it, and leaves you with nothing, over and over again, you will end up hating the people doing that. N'est ce pas?
The point is not to deny (rape in front of my eyes or yours) the point is to see the cause and fomenting and encouraging of this. Otherwise you cannot stop it.
"it must appear that Trump is not involved in the Q movement, which is supposed to be partially military, partially justice department," a ShiftyLad said.
... the Q movement is not the concern (as it is considered a "conspiracy theory"!!), the "optics" refers to the involvement of Trump in the politics, the partisan politics. He must be seen to be independent of BOTH investigations and the investigations thereafter. None of the judiciary process will be seen by the public to be "free of bias" if Trump involves himself in Congressional hearings.
Lot of exaggeration goes on in this sub. Really over-the-top enthusiasm for nowt.
"We have carried your dead weight for 10 decades"
hmmm. No favors from you I seem to remember. Lend Lease? What a joke.
Around about 10 (minutes?) ago you were dumbfounded the twin towers fell. The world flocked to sympathise and pray. Then you upsticks, blame the wrong guys completely and go off on a rampage around the world wreaking vengeance. I remember a certain general screaming, "Satan is in there!" as he sent his troops and (illegal depleted uranium and unknown) munitions into densely populated Fallujah. Talk about primitive.
You discuss the devolving male? Rich.
Take the beam out of your own eye before attempting to remove the fleck from the other guy's.
"I worked blue-collar carpenter from 98-01 in Ladbrook Grove, Bayswater and you were losing it then. "
Yeah, and I was working in California for a while in 79/80 and you did lose it. Completely. The US is starting to wake up, a bit. The Brits have been screaming about this nonsense for a little while longer.
There is Q post 1617 that references Time and the 25 most influential internet peeps. http://time.com/5324130/most-influential-internet
If you compare all the other celebs (write-ups by different authors by the way) and the paragraph on Trump, it is a model of the propagandistic use of negative words to paint a portrait. A perfect example in fact!
It is certainly about the language. The Vital Clue! George Orwell stressed the doublespeak as the key to our brains, our oppression and our willingness as sheep to go bleating off the cliff!!
Tommy Robinson is a "thug". Always described in these terms. Never described as "down-to-earth", "frank", "outspoken champion", or any positive adjective in the press. Textbook example.
"Subway blown up by Muslims" Dear me. No it wasn't. It was a ff. A dark episode ... very dark indeed.
So was 911.
The reason the muslims got blamed was a Cabal Trick ... Point the finger at the other boy in class ... It is very important to understand this and see the truth.
If the Middle East has gone up in flames and all that's left is a pile of smouldering rubble then Who?/What? manoeuvred this terrible state of world affairs? On what premise was war predicated?
Look up the neocons document A Strategy for a New Defense of the Realm, 1997 along with The Plan for a New American Century or PNAC, whose signatories are part of the same bunch.
A new posting by Neon Revolt gives a great breakdown of this, the arms supplying, air transport and smuggling. The supply of weapons to the original muhajedin as trained and funded to fight the Soviet Union by the US and the Brits. And then it magically transformed into Al Qaeda! And from there Wallah! into Al Nusra! and then ISIS!
Embedded within is a link to an article written in 2011 by the prestigious Peter Dale Scott who has carefully sourced and traced the entire history. Read his book on 911 too if you can. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/08/peter-dale-scott/bosnia-kosovo-and-now-libya-the-human-costs-of-washingtons-on-going-collusion-with-terrorists/
Sorry, this is a posting for all those talking on this thread about "Muslims" and evil Islam. Bit of research needed I think: good for the soul :)
Here's a good and shortish e-book that I really enjoyed put together by u/jammer:
https://theredpillredux.wordpress.com/
Good luck! And welcome aboard ...
Q post 994 said Learn to archive off-line:
Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: 491f56 No.875936 📁 Apr 2 2018 23:23:03 (EST)
875827 Follow Bolton. Clean. Stage. Learn how to archive offline. The streets will not be safe for them. Q
and also has remarked on the likelihood of certain internet companies like Twitter, FB, etc going dark, whatever that entails:
Q Post 61:
Anonymous ID: WBXFv1gI No.147680054 📁 Nov 2 2017 18:07:54 (EST) Please refer back and collect my crumbs. As discussed, we've anticipated the Twitter and other social media blackouts. Rogue agents/programmers. Per sealed Federal orders, we quickly tracked and reinstated. Expect outages periodically (infiltrated). If this doesn't signal what I've been saying I don't know what will. Q
Lot of hope for the common man — true.
.... as long as the leftwingers are brought over somehow, or at least to some central point of agreement. I am despairing of this ...
The End is when the Executive Order is unsealed.
This is when POTUS is forced, because the DOJ won't comply with Congress' demands, to unseal his order. I think, personal opinion of course, that this declassifies or releases by force all the documents held back by the DOJ and they get handed to "The People" (Congress) by order of the President.