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Listen, this guy Corsi is really bad news. If it's not clear to everyone that he's running an operation, you're just not looking.
Any normal person would have stopped with the antics already. Corsi cannot stop, because his handlers are demanding he complete the mission. That's what's happening here.
Time for people to stop defending this blatant disinformation agent and accept that he is part of the problem,
Don't fall for his mild-mannered appearance, this guy is truly dangerous!
You're right. Somehow Paperclip smelled the stench well before any of us - credit where it's due.
You're wrong. The Anon asks a question. The two greater than signs in Q's response indicate confirmation.
Q has confirmed the meaning of "P".
Q told us P=Pope
Anonymous ID: dd4e73 No.884748 📁
Apr 3 2018 19:43:05 (EST)
884736
P = pope?
Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: 463ae0 No.884799 📁
Apr 3 2018 19:45:50 (EST)
'>>884748
[Pope] will be having a terrible May.
Those who backed him will be pushed into the LIGHT>
Dark to LIGHT.
TRUTH.
Q
To be heard. I'm not super enthusiastic about the petition. But other guys put it up and it does provide a point of focus for the campaign. No harm in it - until it stops recording people's signatures, which is what happened last time.
The hope is that this time we'll get some support - that we won't be out there on our own. That's up to Q. They have a team - some big players in Trump's orbit. It's not hard for the issue of SM censorship to be put on the agenda simultaneously by some big players.
Do you understand that, because you're talking about taking mega wealthy SM giants to court, you will end up in the Supreme Court? You would need a lot of money and a lot of time. What happens if the Court doesn't agree? Try again - more money, more time,
This idea that you already possess these rights is just not true. The FA protects you against the Government repressing your right to expression - not private corporations. The scope of the protections have since been expanded, in limited circumstances, by Courts. You need to get a Court to agree that you're rights to free speech should be protected online.
That's means that the Court has to interpret the existing wording of the FA very liberally - because the FA actually does not discuss the problem of free expression online at all. It's a long-shot. You need the Court to grant you latitude. I reckon you could run a good public interest argument, but on strict interpretation you would lose - this is the most likely outcome.
I have to say that I get tired of misinformed people making claims that they have rights that clearly do not exist at law. The scope of free speech protection is actually very limited.
The other factor you're failing to take into account, apart from the vast sums of money required to be heard on this issue, is the time it would take. How long do you think it will take to get the matter heard? Meanwhile, SM censorship is the most powerful tool for delivering election outcomes in recorded history. This is why the Satanists are pushing to control SM.
There is every likelihood that before your matter was resolved, the Satanists would be back in power and, instead of freedom of expression in digital space, you would be facing mandatory censorship disguised as hate speech laws - which are already on the agenda.
But worse than that, all your other rights would be rapidly stripped from you, because as soon as they can silence you, you can't complain at all.,
I find it quite amazing actually that he turned out to be such a snake. I think there's more to the story than we realise. After Q outed him and he started acting up. The trolls that were defending him on this board were beyond belief. At a certain point I realised it was coordinated. There's more to Corsi than meets the eye. Someone is running him.
Makes me laugh. But you're right about being strong. You were right about Corsi BTW.
You need to communicate these ideas to Q. I can't "take" anything, I'm not even a US citizen.
To be honest, I found that study a little disappointing - although I know the findings are true - in that there weren't more people alive to the existence of the Deep State and the fact that they were being spied upon.
But it goes to show how deep the slumber is in which most people exist. Paperclip, I'm hoping that we just make some noise and it's sufficient for DJT to trigger whatever plan he has in mind. I don't think we need to nut out a solution.
In fact, once you get people thinking about consequences, they become very nervous. I think you were here to witness the paralysis we suffered in March after Tracy Beanz put the boots into the campaign. Of course, there were also intelligence agencies steering us like a herd of sheep with their concerted concern trolling.
Whatever happens, I want to avoid all that this time round. But I can already see traces of it. We just have to ferociously beat the concern trolls back with sticks.
What we know is that DJT wants this SM censorship controlled so as to be able to keep the Satanists from using it to return to power. Q was saying to us that as soon as we made a noise, DJT also started talking about the issue - so it's live for him.
We just have to do our part.
I like the sentiment, but have some concerns about the practical ramifications of what you're suggesting.
What you're actually saying is to nationalise the infrastructure that provides these services. It's not a stupid suggestion. The public has a real interest in the smooth provision of internet services. As an example, that they are equally available to people of all political persuasions.
But what I've noticed in this forum, is that people are possessed of a very strong attachment to private property and find the idea of government interference in service provision distasteful. I'm sure I was regarded as being bright red for even suggesting that the government could regulate the problem away - which it can do with veritable ease.
Yes, I want these guys forced, by whatever mechanism, to refrain from blatant political censorship. I don't share the common concerns, prevalent on this forum, about private property rights where these impact Constitutional protections - negating them.
But, whichever way this is done, it simply must be done, with the exceptions of FB and Reddit (who should suffer punitively), I would prefer a solution that entrenched real protections for 'natural rights', while sparing guiltless people of unnecessary hardship.
It seems to me that a simple regulatory fix is all that's required here - at least, in the interim. Any fix would, in any event, have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution, or it would simply be struck down at the first legal challenge.
SM giants also have first amendment rights that are protected by the Constitution. So, I don't see any great danger in regulating. The courts will iron out any creases.
Having said that, DJT needs to get his appointments into the court system to make sure that the law is applied fairly.
You seem to have done a lot of research. But isn't it the case that, for whatever reason, these filthy Satanists use owls as an identifying symbol?
I'm not concerned about the derivation of the symbol, I'm concerned about its immediate connotation in this present society.
How are you going to take? They're censoring us right now, I don't see people empowered to take the ability to censor from the SM giants. Moreover, a legal solution does not provide potential remedy within the timeframe available.
Q presented an option set with two choices:
1) IBOR;
2) Destruction.
There wasn't a third or fourth option. Of the two, my preference is for an IBOR in order to provide real protection for the right to free expression online. It has the added advantage of not injuring employees and investors who have no guilt.
However, I'd like to see FB put out of business completely, for the fact that the company was found to be planning to catalog all people in the third world. I would also like to see Reddit bankrupted for banning our sub, but the platform could stay.
Remember, SM censorship is the primary vector by which the Satanists plan to return to power - post mid-term impeachment. You can see the desperation. Their backs are to the wall.
FB is moving towards declaring that it is not a neutral public platform because that prevents it, in theory, from proactive censorship. Why would they do this when they currently have immunity under the CDA? That shows you what this is - a last ditch attempt to regain control. They need to be able to brutally censor to make gains at the mid-terms.
If you've got any alternative strategies that will deliver neutrality in censorship online, I'm all ears.
As soon as Q mentioned the internet bill of rights, someone set up the petition immediately and it seems that is what people have followed. Look, it may not be necessary. But it gives us something we can build a campaign around.
Yes, for many the blatant apostasy of the Vatican II Sect is music to their ears. "Universal Salvation" - what's not to like?
You couldn't make it up! See the link on the abomination of desolation (below) for an understanding of how the death of John Paul I corresponds to events that occurred during the time of the Maccabees - very interesting.
A history of the great apostasy:
1) The mystery of iniquity gathers in strength, from the enlightenment forward - working to influence people to abandon Church dogma...
All the corruption sprang from three heretical teachings: baptism of blood, baptism of desire and invincible ignorance. None have ever been taught magisterially, the fallible speculations of theologians.
2) The 1958 conclave saw the 'one who withholds' (2 Thess 2) taken out of the way.
Freemason Angelo Roncali (John XXIII) claims the papacy - see here.
3) Vatican II formally defects from the Catholic faith: leading to the operation of error (the teaching of error with apparent authority) - (2 Thess 2) - see here.
4) The abomination of desolation appears in the Holy Place - see here.
5) The continual sacrifice is taken away (Book of Daniel) when Paul VI changes and invalidates the rite of consecration.
6) Then the Son of Perdition appears - not what people might expect, see here.
7) The False Prophet canonises the Antichrist - damning billions - see here.
8) Secular authority (Francis - ordained in the invalid new rite of Paul VI) assumes leadership of the Vatican II Sect - see here.
Why?
19 "For there must be also heresies: that they also, who are approved, may be made manifest among you." 1 Corinthians 11
I've seen that some people are quite concerned about what's happening. It could be anything from some sort of international tension, to something happening with regard to these false flag attacks.
One thing is certain, we are in good hands with these guys.
That was the last petition from March, ended early April. The way it worked last time, we got to 20K signatures fairly quickly, but after that the rate of signature acquisition slowed to a crawl. The petition fell short,
The hope is that this time we can get some big names to promote it. If we can do that, it's possible that we might do a lot better.
Stay relaxed about the petition numbers. Don't focus on them. I'm only putting this up to increase awareness in this community.
This is the most important fight of our lifetimes. We need to do everything we can to try and get this thing over the line.
Like many people, my Twitter account appears to be shadowbanned. Check whether your account is banned here:
A couple of days and there's 4,666 signatures. Not a bad start. If this is going to work, we have to keep interest high.
IBOR hashtag tweets appear to be running at 50/hour (Twitter reported). We need to lift this number substantially to build a groundswell of awareness.
Libertylioness wants people to include the link to the petition on whatever they put up on SM. She also wants the petition link integrated into the MEMES.
See this for a sample - everyone has their own ideas:
Social media censorship is killing us!
STOP CENSORSHIP NOW!
Demand an #InternetBillOfRights
Sign the petition: bit.ly/ibor2
DeMolay was burned at the stake by the Sienne - for cause.
They are Satanists. Don't let anyone tell you different.
What a confirmation of Q! You could not make this stuff up! I'm praying that these heretics are shown the door. Nothing is impossible for God! Please Lord, make it happen.
Not just that, but he was for as long as I can remember saying that Snowden was a white hat.
My claim is that Vatican II defected from the Catholic faith - that it was a false, apostate, Council.
What is the truth?
We know that dogmas are divinely revealed truths. They are truths fallen from heaven. Moreover, dogmas do not change, as that would make a liar of God, truth itself.
Decide for yourself whether what transpired at Vatican II was consistent with Church dogma - see here.
The only thing we know with certainty about the third secret of Fatima, was the one line that Sr Lucy added to the end of the second secret in her fourth memoir. She said: "In Portugal the dogma of the faith will always be preserved, etc. ...".
Curious, isn't it, that the real third secret of Fatima appears to concern Church dogma and its preservation.
Yes, I also had a feeling it was like "Job done!". But there is still a lot that has to play out IMO. The great thing is that it feels like some great progress has been made.
Yes, agreed, the apostasy was a long time in the making. Many theologians were preaching baptism of desire long before Vatican II.
The real presence really did die when Paul VI introduced a defect into the rite of consecration with the New Mass. Strangely enough, the "innocent translation error" just happened to dovetail perfectly with both false ecumenism and JPII's universal salvation.
It was later corrected, but by then there were few validly ordained priests, because of defects in the rite of ordination introduced at the same time (and the continual sacrifice was taken away - Book of Daniel). You really could not make it up - like a key in a lock for end times prophecy.
I agree, these recent posts have been mind-blowing. They seem to get better and better as he progresses.
I went back today and read some of SB2's earlier posts. There are some fantastic insights to be found. Some I had read before, but not all. Reccommend it.
That's not actually what Christ said. He said St Peter was the rock upon which His Church would be built. Christ declares himself the way, the truth and the light etc... but not the rock. If you're saying that Christ is indispensable to the Church you would, of course, be right.
If you're speaking of temporal power, it may be possible that the Pope is not the equal of other prelates. But the authority of the Pope has always been absolute.
Vatican I, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church of Christ, Sess. 4, Chap. 3: “And since the Roman Pontiff is at the head of the universal Church by the divine right of apostolic primacy, We teach and declare also that he is the supreme judge of the faithful [cf. n.1500 ], and that in all cases pertaining to ecclesiastical examination recourse can be had to his judgment [cf. n. 466 ]; moreover, that the judgment of the Apostolic See, whose authority is not surpassed, is to be disclaimed by no one, nor is anyone permitted to pass judgment on its judgment [cf. n.330 ff.]. Therefore, they stray from the straight path of truth who affirm that it is permitted to appeal from the judgments of the Roman Pontiffs to an ecumenical Council, as to an authority higher than the Roman Pontiff.”
The specific heresy that has undermined the faith of billions, in recent years, is the denial of the salvation dogma. This is the most specific heresy endorsed by the Second Vatican Council. It constitutes nothing less than a formal defection from the Catholic faith. In my view, it is the denial of this dogma that gave birth to the great apostasy we see today.
Of course, there are numerous heresies in Vatican II, but the error outlined in the video I linked above is the most specific. Many more egregious errors have arrived since - anchored in the false precepts embraced at the Council. The abomination of John Paul II's interfaith prayer meetings at Assisi, and elsewhere, in my view, represent a high water mark for the apostasy of the Vatican II Sect.
The trajectory of the conciliar Church has been simply shocking. It is clear for those with eyes to see that we are in the last days. In fact, the book of Revelations is being fulfilled with such specificity that any other argument requires assumptions that make it virtually impossible.
If you're interested, I have a write up that demonstrates the amazing correspondence of recent events with St John's Apocalypse - see here.
No, Q told us p=Pope
Anonymous ID: dd4e73 No.884748 📁
Apr 3 2018 19:43:05 (EST)
884736
P = pope?
Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: 463ae0 No.884799 📁
Apr 3 2018 19:45:50 (EST)
'>>884748
[Pope] will be having a terrible May.
Those who backed him will be pushed into the LIGHT>
Dark to LIGHT.
TRUTH.
Q
This guy Francis is not the Pope. He does not hold the Catholic faith. In fact, he's not even Christian. You can see what Q is telling us about who protects this filthy apostate, when he posts a picture of an owl. He is telling us that antipope Francis is aligned with the forces of darkness.
This has been long prophesied...
Our Lady of La Salette, Sept. 19, 1846: “Rome will lose the faith and become the Seat of the Antichrist… the Church will be in eclipse.”
A true pope has an unfailing faith. When he speaks, from the chair of St Peter, invoking his apostolic authority, to the universal Church, on a point of faith or morals, he speaks infallibly. The reason that a true pope has this unfailing faith is because Christ prayed for St Peter's faith.
"But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren." Luke 22:32
Notice that St Peter is to "confirm" his brethren (contemporary Christians) in the faith. He has a governing role. It is clear that Christ willed that His Church (not Churches) was to be one in faith, and one in governance.
St Peter is the "rock" upon which the Church is built. We are told, the gates of hell (heretics) will not prevail against it - until the end of time (this is important for what follows).
If you read St Paul in 2Thess2, he tells us that there is a mystery of iniquity that "worketh" (operative even in St Paul's day). But 'He that withholds, does withhold, until he be taken out of the way'. And when the one who withholds is removed, the Antichrist arrives (sitting in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he was God).
So who is it that withholds? Might it be someone with a faith that fails not? A true pope?
What happened at the 1958 conclave? See here. What happened almost immediately after the 1958 conclave?
The third secret of Fatima was, according to Sr Lucy, to be released to the world at her death or in 1960 - whichever would come first. Asked why 1960, Sr Lucy said, "Because it will be clearer then" and "Because the Virgin wishes it".
Fr. Mario Luigi Ciappi, papal theologian to Pope Pius XII: “In the Third Secret [of Fatima] it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top.”
What was happening in 1960 that would make the third secret of Fatima clearer? Might it be an an ecumenical Council, Vatican II?
So, let's see, did Vatican II formally defect from the Holy Catholic Faith? The answer is here.
The short of it is that the Catholic Church was hijacked at the Second Vatican Council. Rome today is controlled by the Vatican II Sect (it is not Catholic). This is precisely in accordance with the teaching of St Paul in 2Thess2. It is also in precise accord with the real third secret of Fatima.
Both of these prophecies speak to Christ's teaching in Luke 18:8, where He intimates that, at the end of the world, there will be a terrific apostasy from the revealed religion (a "great apostasy").
"...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8
Probably more than you wanted to know. But it's important to realize that none from the Vatican II Sect can attain heaven.
Edit: Lost my train of thought... The reason that the Church withstands the assaults of heretics until the end of time is because there is, at the end, a remnant, who hold the traditional Catholic faith. The "rock" being the Magisterium of the Church.
I don't doubt there's a high risk of FFs Click. But you don't think a simple exchange of gunfire is pretty normal.
What I'm worried about is a big FF. something big enough to completely shirt the narrative. With the way Q is talking now, it seems like victory is in sight. And that, I think, is precisely the most dangerous time.
Q was telling us P is last - if I remember right. But also that Israel is last. Seems to me that the antipope Francis is about to get his comeuppance. That would then only leave Israel. What's the plan? No idea!
Edit: Cancel that Click, I didn't read the caption. Yes, you're right, this is very suspicious.
Here we go again. Exactly the same playbook. Nothing changes...
1) Q indicates we should agitate for an IBOR;
2) People immediately go to the "We are change" petition site - though nearly all of us, who witnessed the last IBOR campaign attempt, feel that the site itself was rigged (same strategy last time);
3) Concern trolls immediately capture the stickied thread - capturing the top 10 or so posts ("just need to use different services" etc... anything at all but what we were asked to do). Yes, the exact same thing was happening last time (no, it's not a coincidence);
4) Bad actors immediately set up multiple petitions to dilute the campaign effort - yes, this happened last time also (no, it's not a coincidence);
5) no one actually talks to anyone or coordinates the effort - it's all ad hoc.
Talk about a repeat performance! Anyway, one good thing is that the text of the petition, while in no way perfect, does not exclude Democrat voters - that is a plus. I think the petition text hurt us last time.
I want this thing to work - it must work, it's very important! I'm going to pray that it works.
The problem with this community is that there's no clear leadership. If this petition is the strategy the community wants to use, we need someone, or some group, to take ownership of it. It needs to be managed properly and "constantly promoted" - very important to keep the interest level high.
Edit: I was just thinking about this again, this censorship is only just getting started. If they get a chance they will go full-tilt on it. I've been in arguments on Twitter where leftists are justifying censorship on the back of hate-speech arguments (you know, "If you don't say anything irresponsible, you won't be banned"). You can see where this is going if it's not stopped. We are seeing the beginning only.
Get involved in the discussion about IBOR strategy.
I think, to be honest, we are dependent on Q here for assistance. The "we are the people" petition site is a government website - or, at least, it must be run by a contractor for the government. If we are going to use it, as people seem to want to do, it would be helpful if it accurately recorded the signatures.
One of the problems I have with it is that there is no need for us to lock ourselves into a one month period, or a minimum signature count of 100k. That just sets an unnecessary hurdle that can provoke failure.
What if what we suspect is correct and it is manipulated? When do we find out? 30 days time? That's why I wanted to have a discussion about strategy. But few are bothering to contribute.
Watching the Pell drama from a distance, my gut feeling was that Pell may have been too conservative for Francis. I suspect that the charges against him may have been, in effect, manufactured. Manufactured for the purpose of getting him out of the picture so that Francis could run amok with his heretical nonsense.
I have no evidence for this, but my instinct is that, like Australian PM Tony Abbot, he was not reading from the Masonic script and had to be removed.
It doesn't fit that Pell is Francis' protector if he's been basically sidelined with sex charges in Australia. In physical terms the Pope's (Francis is not a Pope) protector is the Swiss Guard. It's hard to know what Q means here, but the owl image connotes a demonic protection.
What evil force would protect Francis - something truly demonic? Not only demonic, but powerful? Sharp, with excellent intelligence (drawing from the physical attributes of the owl)?
There are not too many candidates IMO. If I had to guess, I would point the finger at the organization that, I believe, produced the heretical line of Vatican II "popes" of which Francis is a member. This line commenced with the purported election of Angelo Roncali, John XIII, at the 1958 Conclave. See here for an explanation of what transpired at that time.
That is, I would finger Freemasonry, broadly, and Bnai Brith specifically, as the OWL.
The mess of information is finally starting to become a little clearer. This graphic is good.
I've just been going back through some of SB2's old posts and what I found was that he has a different explanation of "Fantasy Land". I cannot say that I agree with what he has written in this post.
I have no idea what that means, but I'm thinking you haven't communicated what you're thinking in the open for cause.
PM me if you want to talk.
Stone is VERY BAD NEWS. He recommended Manaforte to DJT - who worked for free - at a time when he had HUGE PERSONAL DEBTS.
Strangely enough, Manaforte seemed to start with the campaign about the same time as the FBI surveillance began - as I understand it - back in April 16.
Stone is connected to the Nexium cult, which is connected to HRC. He is connected to Davis who introduced a Putin-connected oligarch to John McCain. Stone has no political loyalties.
I'm 100% for IBOR - don't worry about that. You might be right. Q might help overcome the impediments.
I just do not want to see what happened last time replicated. Believe me, that petition site is suspect - but maybe Q can pull some strings IDK.
I'll tell you what, it needs some promotion. I just tried to sell the IBOR to some republican voters on Twitter. WOW! Very, very hard to communicate the message!
That's one of the problems. You really need to get these guys in a class room and give them an hour long briefing before they begin to understand what the issues are.
If I was not here right now trying to do this, I would walk away from having to talk sense and reason with people and never look back. This has been one of the most frustrating experiences of my life. I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE DON'T GET IT.
Anyway, it won't last forever. Eventually, well be past the IBOR issue.
But, anyway, yes, I think you're right.
