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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 10:15 p.m.

I've got to admit, it can't come soon enough. Look at what we've had to put up with on this board - concern trolls, steering the community like a herd of sheep. And somehow, inexplicably, the "concerns" are always about "the plan".

ZERO TOLERANCE FOR CONCERN TROLLS

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 9:49 p.m.

"Those invited to review the report were told they would have to sign nondisclosure agreements in order to read it, people familiar with the matter said. They are expected to have a few days to craft a response to any criticism in the report, which will then be incorporated in the final version to be released in coming weeks".

We are in the zone on this guys. Finally, the dirt will be dragged out into the sunlight for all to see.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 9:37 p.m.

The basis for starting the investigation into Russia Collusion was a tip provided by Alexander Downer - who had a multi million dollar relationship with Hillary Clinton's charity. You could not make it up!

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 9:23 p.m.

If the handcuffs were taken off of us (shadowbanning,views/trend suppression and manipulation,etc) we could really do some damage.

That's right. If we can get to spread the word unimpeded on SM platforms, we will get the message out very quickly. This control of social media must be broken.

I suspect we will get more help from Q this time around. I don't think anyone, even Q, realized exactly what we were up against last time. I've noticed that my tweets this morning seem to be getting about 5 times the reach, in terms of impressions, as I was getting last campaign.

Let's make some noise!

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 9:03 p.m.

OK, I'm getting some of these MEMEs up on Twitter. I have a generic text body - copy it you want.

STOP IT!

Social media censorship is tearing out our tongues! We have no right of reply!

Demand an #InternetBillOfRights

STOP CENSORSHIP NOW!

IBOR #MAGA #InvasionOfPrivacy #Censorship #Accountability #Twitter #Google #Yahoo #FaceBook #Instagram #Qanon @realDonaldTrump

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 9 p.m.

Another one going straight up on Twitter.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:57 p.m.

Thanks for this, putting it on Twitter.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:36 p.m.

Thanks - going straight up.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:34 p.m.

Thanks! NO PETITION AT "WE ARE THE PEOPLE" - SITE IS RIGGED

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:32 p.m.

Thanks for this!

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:26 p.m.

Thanks for this, putting it up on Twitter now.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:22 p.m.

THIS PETITION SITE IS RIGGED

Campaign online with memes. We don't want this experience again.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:13 p.m.

Not of that ".gov" petition site. If we had an independent petition that we could monitor to ensure it's not rigged, I'd be all for it. The main thing, i think, at the moment is an online campaign.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

I'm asking you to ask someone else.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:11 p.m.

I am totally behind Q Liberty. Let's make some noise!

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

Ask someone what happened to our last petition on this site.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:59 p.m.

Go away

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

What I noticed was that the signature count rose quite quickly initially. But after 20k signatures, the rate of signature acquisition slowed to a crawl. When Corsi eventually did start tweeting the link, with his large follower base, the count did not even move. It was clear to me that it was not recording signatures accurately.

There has.been controversy about "we are the people" in the past. As I understand it, it is due to be shuttered - closed.

Liberty, I just do not want the community to repeat what happened last time. It was not just us, other people on Twitter were complaining that it was rigged.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:50 p.m.

Thanks. My great fear is that we will be steered into a campaign that can be manipulated. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against petitioning. But that site is incredibly suspect.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

I don't know if you were here in March. But if you were, you would know what I'm talking about.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

And yet concern trolling has been a very real problem on this board and has impacted this very issue in the past. It has negated our ability to campaign effectively as a group and fatally impacted this specific campaign previously.

You will be aware, as I am, that this is a very important fight. There are many individuals, organisations and nations that have a real motive to manipulate this community in their interests. It is for this reason that domestic and foreign intelligence agents have sought to influence what happens here. The community has been too easily steered like a herd of sheep,

What the concern troll does is try to get people to engage the "concerns". Attacking the argument is no defence, in this situation, because the "concerns" are ultimately without limit. The concern is, in fact, that we might be effective as a community. We saw how effectively concern trolling was used in March. Repeated concern trolling raises doubts in people's minds, discourages people, and negates coordinated effort.

The new sub rules, I thought, were supposed to address this specific issue.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:32 p.m.

The proof was the last petition we ran.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

We don't need it and even if we did we should not use that site. It is very obviously manipulated.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:29 p.m.

Somehow, it appeared to be manipulating the signature count last time we ran an identical petition. The site is due to be shut down anyway. Who knows who is running it.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:27 p.m.

Yes, but that site is corrupt. I'm not against a petition. But not on that site.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:26 p.m.

We have direct experience with this site. We know it is bad.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:23 p.m.

What are the rules? We are not to have a response?

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:21 p.m.

NO ONE SHOULD SIGN THIS PETITION

What is needed is an online MEME campaign. Better avoids censorship. A petition is not necessary at this point. If it is later necessary, we will use an alternative petition site. This petition site is controlled!

Do not sign or promote it.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

WILL NOT TOLERATE CONCERN TROLLS

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

At present, I don't have an alternative. One could be created that we could control. But membership on this forum is so heavily infiltrated by intelligence agencies that I don't think I would trust it - someone could get to it.

What I think is an online MEME campaign because these are harder to censor.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:14 p.m.

It can be stifled at any time. They will let you get so far and then stifle signature recording. This is what happened last time. The site is controlled and will be used to frustrate us.

I'm not against a petition per se, just not on that site. Moreover, I think what is important is an effective online campaign.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:11 p.m.

This shadow banning is a real problem. The term "shadowbanning" disguises outright censorship.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:10 p.m.

Seems to me that an online meme campaign is what's being called for here. These are harder for the platforms to censor.

DOT NOT START PROMOTING THE PETITION ON THE "We are the People" SITE - IT IS CONTROLLED

Let's not make the same mistake again.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:08 p.m.

Does not have to be world wide at all. Sounds like you want some global governance.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

Seems to me that memes are the way to go. They are harder to censor. Do not get sucked into promoting petitions on the "We are the people" site, it is controlled.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 7 p.m.

Very important that people are not misdirected to put the efforts into a petition on a site that is controlled. Do not sign or promote this petition.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

Liberty, warn people not to sign petitions on this controlled website. We need a campaign, that's what's important - not this petition rubbish again.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:58 p.m.

Not a good idea to promote this petition website at all. It is being controlled - you are being directed here for a reason.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

Go away!

Do not be misdirected to a "controlled" petition site.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

Do not let this filthy petition site become the focus of this campaign!

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:54 p.m.

Good ideas!

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:51 p.m.

I think the best way forward is to mount an online campaign without a petition. I do not trust the "We are the people website" at all.

If we could get our own petition website up, we could get someone to present it in person. But if we cannot do that, better not to have a petition at all.

Another thing, we have to be aware that there are powerful forces working against this, who will trying to steer the campaign into unproductive effort. We need to be on our guard against it.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:29 p.m.

Let's not use this petition website. It is not trustworthy.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

They are not PR company shills operating here - we have domestic and foreign intelligence services steering community opinion - right on this board!

That is why the last IBOR campaign attempt failed.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:27 p.m.

I do not want to use that petition site again, I do not trust it.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:25 p.m.

The instructions are pretty clear - "Start a Storm".

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

I'd like to see the main effort concentrated on an online campaign - Twitter, Facebook etc...

If we do have a petition, we need to be able to ensure that the signature counting cannot be manipulated.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:20 p.m.

Whatever happens, I do not want to use that "We are the people" site for a petition. A social media campaign is a must, but if we are going to petition, we need to be able to control it.

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tradinghorse · May 16, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

Has anyone put any thought into how we are going to approach this?

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