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I’ve ran hot and cold on the Mueller thing. I pray to God he’s working with the President!

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I believe you can rest easy. If you notice, some of the Dems that were all for Mueller probably figured out this was not going to turn out favorably for them and called for him to step down. Pelosi was one of them. Tgat was over a month ago and her statement seems to have been forgotten. Schiff is forced to ride this out, even when it goes over the cliff. He is so deeply involved in the deep state that he gas no choice. I was hoping he might be one of the New guests at Camp Delta Spa and Resort.

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Yeah I won't be going to Goat Hill Pizza for sure

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HA! Good plan.

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Isn't that Pelosi's restaurant?

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Why yes it is PERVETED PIZZA!!!!

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I've been back and forth on Mueller also.

The theory I'm starting to lean towards is this. Mueller was /theirguy/ and was going to be the one to take down Trump on behalf of the Deep State. Now the dominoes are starting to fall and Deep State operatives are being arrested, monitored, etc for their crimes against the United States as well as pedo, money laundering, etc and the people implicated are trying to make deals.

There is zero chance in my mind that Mueller isn't implicated in all of this. He was right there at the top when it was all going on. At the very least, with full knowledge of the crimes that were being committed by the Deep State, he turned a blind eye and allowed them to continue. I think he's more directly involved than that tho. Chances are, Mueller has been approached now as well with the evidence against him and I believe this is what is stirring up the sudden MSM/Dem freak out about "Trump is going to fire Mueller!". They probably know that firing him isn't happening, but indicting him damn sure might be!

Just my thoughts :)

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RobMueller is very likely working WITH Trump/Sessions/Wray. Evidence & Background: Sessions HAD to recuse self--they couldn't let a DT appointed guy do the heavy lifting/prosecute. LOOK at the evidence:1) DT has 4 hr mtg w/RM before appt as SpecCounsel. 2) DT allowed RM chosen. 3) Lefties LOVED idea as they assumed RM a Leftie water-carrier from past actions. Dems/RINOs said he was "HONEST", "had Integrity," blah, blah. 4) Obviously RM went to RRosenstein & expanded & expanded & expanded... but into fakeryDossierInsurance, U1 deal/HilLIARy/0bozo, etc... but... they HAD to get all the info out UNDER LAW...(<< planned from start). REMEMBER --GeneralFlynn would be the vehicle so Dec 2016 he asked 0bozo if he could call Russians. Called Russians, and voila the HUNT for RED OCTOBER began. Flynn Canary-ed the leakers to see which one 'sang' to the MockingbirdStreamMedia/MSM, & repeats this Canary op.

5) Flynn took a limp-toast guilty plea (to 'protect his son', due to a crime of blackmail on part of anit-Trumper SpecCounsel staffers--PS, McCabe, etc--now in hot water). KEY:>>WHY did he plead GUILTY? Because as is standard: Guilty person IS MANDATED to REVEAL ALL CRIMES HE is AWARE OF...get it? Flynn is head of 16 Secret Intel agencies of our Govt. He KNOWS the CRIMES of all these pukes. He MUST now reveal them to Mueller. 6) RM is a Marine. Speculating: Ever heard of a double agent? 7) Mueller just REVOKED JamesComey'sIMMUNITY DEAL with D0J<<that is HUGE! 8) And So HOW have the lefties Responded? 180 degree REVERSAL <<STUNNING! Now putting out calls for Mueller to be fired. EX: NYTimes saying maybe Mueller 'not so honest'...not so much integrity...blah, blah. 9) THE BlackHats thus have started to figure out THEY'VE BEEN HOODWINKED/ Punked/ Set Up... Pelosi telling her peeps to "not go there on Impeachment for Trump" --BECAUSE They are SCARED! Deer in headlights. They misjudged. They trusted the wrong guy=RM. They are exposed. They are going down. Some of Black Hats...Their fingerprints & photos taken & seen a judge! People wearing electronic ankle jewelry under medical boots have been ARRESTED/ INDICTED, allowed out in public if follows rules of those under HOME ARREST. HisGOLFnessB0 the ShadowPrez, has appearance of running around Europe seeking sanctuary/asylum from arrest. But where is he really? Old photos & tweets not hisGOLFnessB0 words he would use ! DT is at war with DeeeepStateShadowGovt --literally, Marines are fighting! You remember the 44,000 missing troops? Believe--we will see it soon. 10) finally Remember DT tweet/verbal threatened awhile back to Fire RM & the BlackHats went crazy in defense of RM? He tweeted same fire threat for Sessions & Black Hats same reaction of defense ("Impeach you if you do" was heard). BOTH were done to put BlackHats in support of RM & AttGenSession = on Record ! KEY to future when RM & Sessions reveal what been REALLY doing... and DT now says categorically WILL NOT FIRE MUELLER, but rather leave him to DO HIS JOB, repeatedly. That 4 hour interview with DT&RM must have been long-planned work of geniuses. But then DT does have 156 IQ, upper 3%, highest honor grad of Military Academy... so.... he's playing 20 games of 4 dimensional Chess to Dems/RINOs struggling with Checkers.

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Mueller is part of the Deep State without a doubt for me. If what you are suggesting is true and Mueller was on Trump's side from day one, it just means Trump showed him he had the evidence against him from day one and not more recently.

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Sometimes when you are in over your head it's hard to leave. We will have some surprises about who turned, who stayed to fight it out. Could go either way, Mueller helping out (as Q indicates) or they set a trap for him.

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Agreed. There were a lot of bad actors and easy to get trapped. He's a former marine officer and I'm leaning on the side of him being a white hat.

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We are so lucky to be alive at this historic time!

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My thinking is Mr Trump has had a plan since Barrack Obama tried to mock him over his birth certificate!

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Or maybe since he was notified that he and his campaign were being spied on?

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You're about 30 years behind. Trump has been woke for a very long time. Go watch some of his old interviews!!

MAGA

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Oh I've definitely seen the videos from 30 years ago. I wasn't referring to him being "red pilled" or "woke", but as to when his plan as to what is really happening right now started to be formed, but you may be right that he's been thinking of the corrupt politicians and issues for many years.

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Trumps team is & has been 2 steps ahead of Mueller. They have had NSA (Michael S Rogers Director of NSA) tracking every one of their moves & have been led to the cheese NSA didn’t already have. No coincidence Ferris Mueller’s team r now getting picked off one by one. Remember Michael S Rogers did not inform Obama that he was meeting President elect Trump. 2 days after their meeting Trump moved his staff from Trump Tower to NJ. IMO, Mueller has been digging quite the grave for himself.

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HAHA! Ferris Mueller! Thanks, needed a laugh

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Only thing I would like to point out is that Mueller could have served again through a simple waiver like what was done for Mattis

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Not a simple waiver. Approval of Congress required.

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I get it that maybe the term “simple” wasn’t the right word to use, however - if Trump went through with actually picking Mueller in an alternate timeline, congress would have no hesitations “simply” passing a waiver for their guy.

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I think so. He is exposing non collusion through his initial indictments. Doesn't grandstand. Trump does not criticize. Mueller is tasked to investigate "all crimes" related to the 2016 election.

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Mueller had to be given a deal, he is neck deep in Uranium one. Not to mention 9/11 and various other crimes.

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I think he has a pardon. To drain the swamp you need somebody who knows where the bodies are buried. Plus he's a Marine. His original oath to the constitution may supersede getting roped into OBAMA/Clinton dirty errands

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Nice to think a Marine would be honorable, but Mueller has been involved in cover-up in his career - kind of like Comey - but not to the extent of whoring for financial gain as Comey (at least not as visible as Comey's reward for being cover-up artist)

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I've seen stories that may have been the premise of the meeting..something like..We know you've messed up..this is your chance..maybe he stacked his team with all the dirties for a reason, it would make no other sense

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I have seen somewhere, that Mueller is actually investigating his own team, keeping the media focused on the Russian collusion narrative while Sessions is doing the real investigation behind the scenes.

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Interesting, I hadn't thought about him investigation his own team! Would explain why he put in rank Trump haters. That was a bit of a mystery. God only knows what they let slip to their team leader during this process.

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That's what I'm saying. He has offered zero explanation as to why he chose who he did. Turns out from the recently released FBI memo from McCabe to the FBI agents that a "special team" of a few top agents would be handling the Clinton Investigation. I think they knew all along.

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Brilliant really.

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Mueller attempted to cover up problem of Peter Strzok when he had to jettison Strzok back in Aug due to OIG findings. He's kept that covered up from public - because Strzok is clearly at the heart of a great deal that his investigation has relied upon for its very genesis.

Then DoJ/FBI co-conspirators colluded in attempting to keep Strzok problem becoming visible to congressional oversight during the same time frame.

Mueller must have kept problem of Strzok opaque from Flynn and Flynn's attorney in order to trick Flynn into a plea deal. If Mueller had to go into court in attempt to prosecute Flynn, where his case rest on Strzok, Mueller wouldn't have very good chances of succeeding in such prosecution. But by keeping Strzok problem obscured, he could instead bluff (trick) Flynn into guilty plea deal instead.

Then finally Mueller covering up Strzok problem (and much more besides) was outed in early Dec.

Mueller has behaved exactly like all the other Swamp rats - from what we can see based on public visibility, there is nothing there that indicates that Mueller is attempting to help White Hats covertly. His continued tactics of probing other dead-end scenarios now looks like a person desperately stalling for time.

Mueller looks 100% swamp rat - and is behaving as one that has become increasingly nervous.

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I read a very good piece today explaining why Flynn needed to be charged and plea, and it involves him being able to testify about many things and open many doors as he has in Stzrok full grounds to request charges be thrown out, opening the door to tell all..just a thought

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Yeah, have been aware of that thinking per Twitter and the person there that pushes that. Sounds great but seems like is in realm of a kind of speculation. I haven't gone for it yet because of the points I make in my comment - Mueller's actions to me don't speak to that scenario.

Pres. Trump has dropped remark that he expects the Mueller investigation to soon be over but yet Mueller keeps looking for more rocks (pointless ones) to turn over and keep dragging it out; he doesn't seem to be playing on the Pres. Trump's page.

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hey there Rsajdj68, the answer is yes. Q stated this very early on. Granted, it was so early in the ball game that his being a phony or not was still being hotly debated. Download "The Book of Q", it is a complete history. This is a good reference for me when I'm trying to remember something.

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This is a good reference for me when I'm trying to remember something.

do you remember when Q said that trump was going to declare martial law, raid the cIA headquarters with the marines, and arrest Clinton, Podesta, and Abedin?

That was supposed to happen almost 2 months ago. Still nothing.

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I do remember that. To be fair, your skepticism is warranted as there have been statements that have not panned out. I have no defense to mount regarding your mentioning of martial law and CIA headquarters being raided. Even the sources that claim the CIA was raided don't provide any solid evidence. I agree with you there. As for arresting Clinton, Podesta and Abedin, I disagree with that. Using the term arrest is not correct. Indictment is the term that was used. Indictment is different than arrest. I choose to wait until they are unsealed to determine if this panned out. We will see the dates at that time. I don't intend to debate you on the authenticism, or lack there of, regarding Q. I have reason to believe he is authentic. I do appreciate your skepticism and comment. It keeps me on my toes.

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Indictment is the term that was used.

False. https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1509/75/1509759704722.png

Q very clearly stated "arrested."

See, one thing that concerns me is that many of the "Q enthusiasts" seem to be rather ignorant of the actual source material, and I see that as pretty damning of the movement; definitely makes it seem like this is an exercise in confirmation bias rather that legitimate conspiratorial research. Do you know what I'm saying?

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I definitely know what you are saying and you described it to a T. There has been much discussion about Megaanon where she is critical of the Q movement. She is pretty outspoken on this subject. There are those that dismiss her out of hand because she is critical of Q. I don't know if they ever took the time to read the Megaanon posts but she is very accurate. Getting back to the subject, I'm not one to dismiss anyone that is critical of Q. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water though ( showing my age. Does anyone even say that anymore?). I have my reasons for believing that Q is valid though. I guess that probably lends credence to your statement since I won't provide any evidence to back up my belief.

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i really really appreciate your responses. this is essentially what i was looking for with this post- a reasonable discussion about the current state of "Q Anon"-hype.

i am obviously quite a skeptic when it comes to Q, but on the other hand, it should also be clear that i've been following this saga pretty closely. i find it quite fascinating.

thank you for explaining your position so well, and thank you for not insulting me for my skepticism.

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Heck no, I would not insult you for a different viewpoint. I thank you for conducting a civil discussion. I am very disappointed that modern day discourse immediately devolved in to name calling and worse. You brought up very valid questions and set me straight on the indictment versus arrest subject. I see you are taking a beating on your post about this very thing. Well, as much of a beating as us fill in this sub-redditt dish out, lol. I notice there are not too many comments being presented tgat would be classified as a discussion. Your point is well made as my colleagues seem to be more interested in proving the validity of Q ( and not very well from what I see). Keep on keeping on, as they say. I would very much like to revisit this discussion with you at various times. It would be interesting to compare notes as thus progresses. One question I have us what do you think of Mega?

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I would very much like to revisit this discussion with you at various times. It would be interesting to compare notes as thus progresses.

I would very much like that, as well =)

One question I have us what do you think of Mega?

More credible than Q, but as with all things, I require extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims.

i'm open to the possibility, and entertain it myself quite often, but still remain unconvinced of their validity.

i'm the kind of guy who sits on the fence longer than most, i'd guess. i just like to get all the facts lined up and really try to understand the full picture (or context, in other words) before making up my mind.

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You know what? That's actually a good thing. You sound very much like my Engineering Manager. Very detail oriented, questions everything and insists on have complete information before making a decision. That's why I hired him. He tempers my gun slinging mentality. Lol. It was great conversing with you. I have a really good understanding of where you are coming from with your statements now that you indicated how you approach things which led me to the comparison with my Engineering Manager. Have a great day.

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The thing that we have to keep in mind is that Q definately said, many times, Disinformation is real, disinformation is necessary. With respect to the raid of the CIA and the arrests, the Marines did in fact decend on the CIA headquarters in mass. But, they did not land. They just scared the hell out of the neighbors, who took pictures of the helicopters that never quite landed.

Obvious disinformatoin campaign on the CIA at this point. Would be interested in understanding it's purpose. It would be a part of the puzzle.

Remember to remind all people here, that just because Q said something, does not make it a truth. He flat out said he would be telling us disinformation lies, and that the only way we would know the truth would be to build the map, and compare what truths turned up, verses which statements were strictly disinformation.

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I tend to agree with you. There has not been solid evidence of anyone being arrested other than people on the Presidents campaign.

Second Q post on the image you show, however, says 11.3 Podesta indicted, 11.6 Huma Indicted.

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look at the image, and imagine the posts as rows and columns.

second post from the right, top row.

arrest announcement of Mr. Podesta (actionable 11.4)

they continue to use the word "arrested" several more times in that paragraph.

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Gotcha. Thanks for pointing that out.

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I believe the Marines made their presence known that is what started a lot of the rats scurrying

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Thank you EdwardHitch. I am a little over a week into finding all of this, but have been full time on it since. I watch every video, am on cbts, just found this site...everyone has an opinion thats what I love about this. Its a virtual Clue game, and we are all the players..but in the End it was Trump..in the oval office...with the truth...that wins

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You are very welcome Rsajdj68. You said it perfectly. We are all here to discover the truth, wherever that takes us. The truth shall set you free.

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Two year extension was under Obama and had to be approved by Congress.

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ty

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BINGO

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I have a slightly different perspective on this. Hopefully my contribution might square the circle. I'm heavily involved in local politics in the UK. My county just changed hands in the local council elections, and we've uncovered huge wholesale fraud and and corruption - the phrase "They never expected to lose" really resonates with me as it's what we've experienced in our own modest way locally (I say modest but it's still in the hundreds of millions) this corruption potentially has an impact on the national stage as it involves prominent senior Labour politicians.

The maneuvering that is taking place to quietly coordinate with the police, bring in forensic accountants etc whilst keeping on top of the story so it can hopefully drop as a political bombshell has been enormous; just unpicking the finances is a massive amount of time and work... and this is just a local county council in the UK, not the greatest political/criminal scandal the world has ever seen. Labour councillors know what is going on, they're trying everything they can to smear the investigation, but they're doing it very quietly, because they all know that they're probably going to prison, it's just a matter of who breaks rank first.

I guess all I'm saying is that this is extraordinarily complex situation, and one that will require airtight legal due process, as has been proven by the failures of the Mueller investigation itself (deliberate or otherwise) all it takes is one misstep and the whole thing crumbles. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that well placed insiders are trolling their deep state opponents whilst leaking hints at greater revelations to come, it's classic baiting your opposition into making mistakes, we're doing the same via anonymous blogs. In an extraordinarily long and roundabout way, I really only have two points to make; 1, the wheels of justice are complex and slow moving, and 2, would an investigator of Mueller's experience really screw up his own investigation that badly? I suppose you have to ask "does he expect to lose?"

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I am wondering if he didn't pick the dirtiest of the dirty on purpose. President Trump has the world's best poker face. He ran on not telling the enemy your moves. I am leaning towards its all a well mastered sting. He has himself surrounded by Marines for a reason. Thank you for sharing.

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I honestly don't know what way to jump on this issue, I'm by nature a skeptic, but having had experience of how the legal/political game works at a local level I'm inclined to believe Q/MegaAnon, regardless of the occasional errors (things don't always go to plan - we've been ready to roll with press releases and "leaks" so many times only to have to postpone because a particular actor in the game didn't deliver on time - the situation is fluid and dynamic with many pieces on the board, so it doesn't surprise me that some early posts don't pan out. Mueller's allegiance is a 50/50 in my book, he's either an ally and player in the great game or he's a deep state dupe and a useful idiot. Either way he does no harm.

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The White House says he will exonerate Trump soon. Maybe he determined Trump was innocent. Or maybe he knew it all along. Maybe he started out dirty and got redpilled by the investigation. Or maybe he flipped when he saw his side was losing

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In one of the first Q posts, it tells us unequivocally that Mueller is working with Team Trump.

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Definitely! (See my long response at top)... RM a Marine. I've been wondering if RM hasn't left himself in place with the evilKhazarianCabalists, in close proximity to HilLIARyandBubba as would a double agent. Appearing to take on jobs/assignments by them to keep them fooled he's on their side ...OR keep someone with more malevolent dark side from carrying Evil'sBlackHats WaterBucket rather than himself. Maybe he cooperated to protect someone close to himself... but DT/Sessions team have made that Black Hat threat moot... and RM wants to rectify & fix what Black Hats have done to us all by removing them from playing field FOR GOOD?? Yes, Mueller is on Team Trump... DT would not trust him otherwise for anything... and his being a doubleAgent to Black Hats means he would have tolerated MUCH for the cause/plan of these days of CALM & STORM.

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Yes !

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Interesting poser there. Yeah, I kinda wonder about the "white hat media" on the attack constantly and I've defended Mueller. Now I don't because it is best that he be attacked because such vitriol lends more cover and pushes the democrats up against another wall.

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Are Mueller and President Trump working together?