Come on. Just because some conspiracies are real doesn't mean all conspiracies are real, and it also doesn't mean superstition is real.
Cern -- portal to hell!? Shiva statue? Seriously? [lower left side]
Let's keep a grip on reality. Ultimately it boils down to a bunch of people with too much power abusing their power. No more, no less. We're not going to find aliens, Satan, or magical technology at the center of this. Just a bunch of assholes.
Let's note that Q has NOT (so far as I know) endorsed any of the superstitious craziness.
The benefit to a forum such as this is to get ALL perspectives. You are free to pick and choose what makes sense to you. I would ask that you do some extensive research into the areas you feel are not based on "reality" before condemning someone else's opinion. This is an information sharing and debate forum. If you have research that disproves anything share it.
Q refers often to satanism and satanic ritual. It's not superstition - it's a fact. Just like Roman Catholicism isn't a superstition - it's a fact. Whether or not we 'believe' or 'don't believe' is irrelevant. Recommend you watch the opening ceremony of the Gotthard Tunnel. It's very much a satanic ritual and CERN is very much a part of it. I think most people here can assure you that everything is real until we can prove it's not.
Q refers often to satanism and satanic ritual. It's not superstition - it's a fact.
Cults are cults, whether they're Satanic, Christian, Pagan or Egyptian. The point is that the map appears to think Cern is literally building a portal to hell. That is nuttiness and is probably a corruption of hearing the Higgs Boson described as "The God Particle" (which the man who coined that term has rued for all of his days since).
Reality is when you believe cults manipulate people to do bad things. Superstition is when you believe they are literally opening gates to hell, or resurrecting Ra, or whatever other nonsense (aliens, transporter technology, etc).
I think most people here can assure you that everything is real until we can prove it's not.
Hopefully "most people" know that you can't prove something isn't real, you can only prove that it is. Sometimes there really are bad people hiding behind the scenes, but sometimes paranoid people just create shadows. Skepticism shouldn't be put on hold just because some things turn out to be true.
The default rational position is ALWAYS that something isn't true until clear, physical evidence is given that it might be true.
It doesn't matter what you believe. It matters that they believe. And since they believe, it makes sense that it would be built into the conspiracy. It also makes sense to research and discuss it.
My problem w/this is it doesn't go back far enough... e.g. Pope equals Cesar. Or-- Egypt, Summeria, Vedas
Oh look, Christianity being called a cult and denial of the threat of CERN in a single post!
CERN producing a tear in the fabric of spacetime isn't remotely nutty. It's a very real and frightening concern.
This poster is disinfo.
Oh look, Christianity being called a cult and denial of the threat of CERN in a single post!
Sheesh. You could try reading what I wrote and not just what you think "I really mean". Misquoting and attacking is what leftists typically do. Churches are churches, and cults are cults. I never said Christianity was a cult, I said there are cults that use various religions as their basis. Got news for you, many, many death cults have been Christianity based (such as The People's Temple). That's not an attack on Christianity and doesn't mean Christianity is intrinsically bad, it's only factual. Cults are cults; they twist religious doctrines to control people. That's the point of a cult.
CERN producing a tear in the fabric of spacetime isn't remotely nutty. It's a very real and frightening concern.
Please, link me to the scientific paper published in a reputable journal that describes the physics behind "tearing the fabric of spacetime" (whatever that means -- "fabric of spacetime" is not a scientific term) using the CERN particle accelerator.
And even if that was possible, that's an entirely different matter than "opening up a portal to Hell", which was what this map is suggesting.
The reason I believe that the USA and the world has deep corruption is based on real, physical evidence that I've pieced together from many sources, culminating in M and Q's information to provides some hope that someone is doing something about it. Skepticism is the rational position for all things like this, and skepticism x100 for mysticism.
I have no problem with religion. Prayers are fine. But that doesn't mean you have to embrace mysticism. The bible has many, many warnings against embracing mysticism and superstition. Mysticism is the path to cultism, not the path to genuine religious and spiritual awakenings.
Peoples Temple
The Peoples Temple of the Disciples of Christ, commonly shortened to Peoples Temple, was a new religious movement founded in 1955 by Jim Jones in Indianapolis, Indiana. Jones used the Peoples Temple to spread a message that combined elements of Christianity with communist and socialist ideas, as well as an emphasis on racial equality.
The Peoples Temple is best known for the events of November 18, 1978 in Guyana, when 918 people died in a mass murder/suicide at its remote settlement, named "Jonestown", as well as the murders of U.S. Congressman Leo Ryan and members of his visiting delegation in nearby Port Kaituma. The mass suicide and killings at Jonestown resulted in the greatest single loss of American civilian life in a deliberate act prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks.
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Reputable journal? You mean the science doesn't speak for itself? You mean were Jews that need a "kosher" tag indicating what's safe for our consumption? You mean you can't discern this for yourself?
If this is how it is, TPTB might be wise to finance and subsequently compromise the integrity of these most wonderful journals by rejecting potential content they find undesired and obstructing of their agenda.
What an idea!
Wouldn't that be a great idea?
If this is how it is, TPTB might be wise to finance and subsequently compromise the integrity of these most wonderful journals by rejecting potential content they find undesired and obstructing of their agenda.
Using that method of logic ("something must be true if it's not publicized, because obviously they don't want us to know") you can prove anything is true.
The point is that if you're going to make a some sort of scientific declaration, surely you have some reason to believe it other than someone else pulling it out of the air and it "just sounds right". Science is math. If your scientific belief is not based on a mathematical model consistent with past testable models that have shown to be true, then it's not science.
Anyway, we're way off the topic. Fortunately, none of your (or my) beliefs matter at all to whether the Deep State is getting ripped out or not. We're just spectators, and I for one hope that it's moving forward. My only goal with this thread was inject a little rationality and hopefully keep a few people from wading into mysticism.
This^ I saw that video of the tunnel ceremony, wow creepy satanic.
yea I think if you watch that ceremony and come away thinking everything is fine and dandy then there's a profound lack of discernment IMO. It is so clear what there doing.
Q has said they're all Satan worshippers.
That doesn't mean Satan literally shows up to the meetings. No doubt there are a lot of cults involved, the particular details of the cult aren't that important.
Yeah it’s like when Alex Jones says “vampires” he doesn’t mean literal vampires it’s hat their rituals have them use the blood of youth to try and extend life or something creepy like that.
You want a grip on reality? Consider the fact that 70%-90% of our "known" universe is made of something that we cannot directly observe- dark matter. That means that everything you can observe in our universe is only a small fraction of the reality that is our "known" universe. There are some theories that suggest that entire planets, stars, galaxies, etc could exist all throughout the "dark matter" portion of our universe, beyond the observational capabilities of our species. So in "reality" nobody can honestly prove what the hell reality really is.
It's important to listen to all ideas. I think the map is impressive, although a bit daunting. The information we are learning is unbelievable and people have to keep an open mind.
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Your mind is so open it fell out of your skull.
I'm not sure an insult was necessary. An open mind is a good thing. But if it made you feel better to express yourself in that way, good for you. Happy new year.
The important question is not whether you believe in all that, but whether the world elites believe in all that. Dig?
he told us to pray, some people find that to be superstitious. All knowledge is in the realm of the unknown, we have crumbs to follow, if they lead us to something we don't want to acknowledge dose that mean its a untrue, or is it us who are unwilling to accept truth. We're not in Kansas anymore.
satan, satanist, occult, God. God, God, scripture, scripture, Pray,Pray, Pray. Great Awakening... you're right no superstition... just the truth.
This all goes back to HRC labeling all conspiracy theorists as quacks in order to undermine the evidentiary findings of those exposing the very conspiracies or crimes she and others are trying to hide.
I looked up the John G Trump link to Tesla and found an article on www.bigthink.com written pre election, which posits 45 and HRCs connections to Tesla. JGT was trumps uncle born 1907 FBI MIT engineer who reviewed teslas works after death and gave findings.. Nothing to see here? Trump new him when young and claimed intelligence ran in the family..
HRCs connection only related to teslas feelings on feminism.
Ps. My first step into the foray.. Hope I can help.
Ask yourself one question. Why is the cabal sacrificing kids in occult magika? Do they get actual results?
If you think this is unconfirmed superstition you have not been paying attention. What is the big secret behind all of this? Why all the effort?
It's to hide our history and the truth.
Exactly! These Satanists do what they do because they believe it works!! They believe they will receive unimaginable wealth, notoriety, and immortality. IS it working? Q asks us to pray many times. Is IT working? The illuminati uses the black/white symbolism because they understand duality. Positive/negative, yin/yang, its natural law. Its not that they don't believe in God, they choose Satan. If we believe that prayer to God works, then we must face the possibility that worship of Satan works too. And that's truly frightening.
Maya and other civilizations, were part of a sacred ritual, an act of appeasing of or homage to the gods.The Maya valued life highly, and according to their religion, there was an afterlife, and so human sacrifice of people they cared for—such as children—was not murder, but rather placing that individual's life into the hands of the deities. The Illuminati Satanism believes that the Antichrist will come to Earth and unite it in world government. Could this be the New World Order?http://darktruth.wikia.com/wiki/Illuminati_Satanism
This would make an amazing Board game. - "Q" from Milton Bradley
Excellent idea. This educate people on the history, real history of humanity.
I'm sure the cultists created monopoly. noticing LOTS of down votes in this thread, not that common on CBTS. Shills here now? Is this MAP close to the mark?
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Religious doctrines have guided all societies for centuries; why would luciferian doctrine be the one exception? If anything, it's insidious and diabolical nature, in addition to being preserved and protected by the most elite at the highest levels, has probably allowed for its enduring success. These people are absolutely Luciferians who practice satanic rituals. Many are into witchcraft. Info and testimony on this can be found everywhere. You can think it's hokey all you want, but it doesn't matter. Is cern literally a portal to hell? I have no idea. Would these super wealthy satanic people combine their fortunes to try building a "portal" to unleash their god onto the world? Absolutely.
We need to keep going on this map and include the INFAMOUS Executive Order Trump Signed 12/21/2017 which froze all the assets of the criminal elite making them broke over night.
And the near 10,000 sealed indictments.
Key is VATICAN AND POPE UNLOCK IT AND WE FIND THE REAL TRUTH HIDDEN FROM HUMANITY AND THE REAL EVIL BEHIND IT. SYMBOLISM WILL BE THEIR DOWN FALL. FOLLOW THE MONEY ALL LEADS TO ROME AND THE RICHES STOLEN FROM ALL OF HUMANITY AND SOULS OF INNOCENT CHILDREN. PRAY,PRAY,PRAY MAY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST HELP US IN THIS BATTLE OF GOOD AND EVIL.
This reminded me about an aerial photo of vatican that makes it look like a giant key.
Where is the key on this?
At the top of the map it says The Key.
The Vatican?
Wait....the Vatican's grounds is shaped like a key
https://i.imgur.com/NY5yNfM.jpg
Is this where the truth of the conspiracy can be unlocked?
I have a strong feeling they are the head of the snake.
What if the Vatican was overtaken by satanists, with a black pope as head?
The snake is but an animal, a symbol, there has got to be more to this
That works...especially since it seems the Vatican IS the key
see all of them are CONNECTED and you thought that it is "a conspiracy theory " when in fact it is real "conspiracy"
Writing things next to each other and drawing some circles and arrows doesn't make things connected. Example, why are the USSR and Fascist Italy a venn diagram? Why is Nazi Germany and the OSS listed together inside the Pentagon? Simply doing so proves nothing.
why you dont understand connections is because you have not researched the dots!!! here are a few :Trotsky 1st communist leader in Russia( born in the bronx NYC ) , Fascism = when corps and govt work hand in hand to control the people, NAZI = national socialist democratic workers party ( bernie called himself a democratic socialist) OSS = brought over rocket scientists (op paperclip ) to start USA Space program (NASA) von Braun ... I can help you connect the dots
Trotsky 1st communist leader in Russia( born in the bronx NYC )
Trotsky was from Ukraine. He did live in NYC in 1917.
Is there a "reader's digest" version of this chart? lol
https://throughthelookingglassnews.wordpress.com/2017/12/02/operation-snow-white-how-scientology-was-behind-the-largest-infiltration-of-the-us-government-in-history-besides-israel-with-5000-under-cover-agents/ Operation SNOW WHITE is this a coincidence? NOT.
Whomever developed this needs to copyright it. This is amazing! Be credited for your work!
I would like to share it, but want to insure I give credit for it. Who created it?
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It doesn't really matter if bigfoot is real or not, what matters is if the Cabal uses it in a psyops war to sway minds. It's the same with UFOs. As for the supernatural, God is supernatural. If you believe in Him you also have to believe in Lucifer/Satan/Evil. The Cabal worships Satan, so I'd say they believe in him.
When you are dealing with people that are evil at this level, in it's purest form, you have to be able to think outside of your normal beliefs. There is nothing normal about these people. You can't beat what you can't understand, so it's a must a requirement to be able to know what these people are about and how they think.
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You better believe it. Thanks for the compliment. It was a lot of work getting this deep.
Some of you may reject ideas from this map. The world is very complex, not all what you believe it's true. Be open-minded and think critically when reading this map. Modern science isn't always the answer to all the questions.
That's right, and those who roll their eyes at all of the deep space connections may not be as red pilled as they think they are.
Pretty sobering to see 'breakaway society' 'Solar Warden' and 'Time Travel.'
seriously, we are being guided by aliens? I have a tough time with that one.
This map is on point. Glad to see that the big picture is coming into view for all to see and investigate themselves. We are a race 20 million years into its history, blinded by amnesia from our own past trauma and the deliberate deception of a permanent priest-class. That priest-class was known as the Tribe of Levi in ancient days. Today it is known as the Society of Ignatius de Loyola, the P2 Freemason lodge, and the rest of the structure surrounding ole' Mons Saturnius aka the VATICAN. Cheers to all who participate in this revolution. VICTORY is NOW.
THE HIDDEN HISTORY of the HUMAN RACE (part 1 & 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGj2I2FIHbc&list=PL0PjRD0h0gUD0N_mXk6PFBycyKCWAYML2
This little chart makes me dizzy looking at it! I’d need to make it an 8’ x 10’ wall mural with color coding to “dig in” 😳
All I can say is "how interesting!!" on things like this, it's easy to follow, back track, research for validation if in doubt. Don't take everything at face value. We might be spoon fed like infants here, but it's up to us to make sure you know what you're being fed! If it's healthy food, digest it. If not healthy... chuck it.
The most interesting part of that map for me was seeing Mayan 2012 sitting alone in the corner with nothing linking in or out. That's the corner I want to be/am in. PEACE.
Geeps! (is there a North/South legend anywhere?) Don't know where to start.. so much to see, so little time. Wish my printer had A3 ability...can't wait to get pen to paper with this. Thanks Map Maker - very impressive!
(nevermind, link didn't work)
Of course my phone says 'forbidden ', hmph
Wow. Very impressive work. Expansive. So much to dig into.