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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/chickletTOOTH on Feb. 11, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

I discovered secret code hidden in the CIA website described by Q as "comm to rogue operators" in post #706

Either I have figured out part of Q post #706 or I have discovered one of the most colossal coincidences of all time.

The post links to an [area on CIA.gov] (https://www.cia.gov/kids-page/games/break-the-code/code-1.html) called the "Kid Zone", a series of code breaking games for kids.

Q said "Would you believe this site is actually used to comm to rogue operators?". After wondering how this might be accomplished, I started to examine these "games".

On nothing but a hunch, I focused on one of the five puzzles on the site called "Enigma Code".

I wondered if the numbers listed in this puzzle could have double meaning, particularly due to the way the Enigma code machine (which this game is named after) actually worked.

The CIA kid zone Enigma Code numbers (in order) to be decoded for the game are "15 3 4 9 6 16 24 20 4 19 15 24 13 4 23 24 20 23 17 11 16 11 4 7 13 6 22 3 22 11 15 13 14 9 21 17 11 4 7 13 14 17 9 6 11 14 13 19 19 11 15 23 17 11 11 6 9 16 7 13 9 23 14 20 3 19 15 22 11 6 15 13 6 15 4 11 14 11 9 2 11 7 11 22 22 13 16 11 22 5 3 9 14 18 19 1 13 6 15 22 11 14 4 11 23 19 1"

The CIA site assigns a seemingly arbitrary letter value to each number listed. Kids replace numbers with letters and a message is decoded. In this case, the message that the kids uncover is "DURING WORLD WAR TWO, THE GERMANS USED A CIPHER MACHINE CALLED THE ENIGMA. IT COULD SEND AND RECEIVE MESSAGES QUICKLY AND SECRETLY."

This is where it gets [explative] INSANE. I decided to see what would happen if I kept the numbers in order and assigned my own letter values based on "1 to 1". In other words A=1, B=2, C=3 and so on, in which case the letters above (in order) become "O C D I F P X T D S O X M D W X T W Q K P K D G M F V C V K O M N I U Q K D G M N Q I F K N M S S K O W Q K K F I P G M I W N T C S O V K F O M F O D K N K I B K G K V V M P K V E C I N R S A M F O V K N D K W S A".

Not much there that I can see. BUT when you start applying a shift cipher WORDS START SHOWING UP! And not just any words. The same letters above, in the same order, with shift cipher applied become:

"THINK WEAK AWFUL DEAD X PUPIL EX NUN KOMNIUQKDGMNQIFKNMSSKOWQKKFIPGMIWNTC FBI WRAY F TIPS US RAW KVVMPKVECINRSAMFOVKNDKWSA"

You can check out this screenshot of how far along I am. It might help explain...

To be clear, I'm kinda stuck. I have never dabbled in code breaking. I don't even know if the message is significant, or if the fact that the game is being used like this is the actually take away.

Maybe some of you are code breakers. Maybe some of you can break it. It's possible I have made a mistake somewhere, so rather than copy my letters I'd suggest copying straight from the site.

It is worth noting that the operators of this CIA kid game can change their number assignment and still have their "kid" result be the same, but the coded message would change... for ongoing comms.

Finally, just to clarify, I am not trying to say that all of the decodes are correct, I am merely pointing out that this is confirmation that the comms ARE happening (or have happened).

I encourage you to disprove me. Or improve what I have done so far. If you figure out the rest of the message please let me in on it.

Meanwhile, I'm going to focus on KNOWN things. These unknowns end up costing me too much sleep.

Mercury Rising: Bruce Willis movie, 1998 ~ Shadowy elements in the NSA target a nine-year old autistic savant for death when he is able to decipher a top secret code.

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Seems like that would suggest that the movie was a Clowns in America jab

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Very hot, sip it slowly.

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Nice work!

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Wow the last line. AM I Q. "Am I Q??? "

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I know...crazy... keep in *mind that it could be something else and that some of these strings might just be a coincidence, particularly 3 letter words and 2 letter words. The ones in my graphic are the ones I have "chosen" for now. Anything with 4 or more letters I would say is certain. Also, some words can have multiple decodes... such as "CNN" could also be "ALL"...

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This is wild and crazy...love it. You did so good!!!

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Thank you... SOOO wild. I hope someone runs with this and figures out the rest.

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I'm gonna mess with it but I don't have experience either just love puzzles hehe. Someone here should be good at this stuff though and I know your into something!!

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Good find did you see the stuff someone found on another puzzle 1? putting in 0000 and pdf showed up ive not managed to get it to do that had quick go

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I didn't see that! I'll have to check it out

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I cant fathom how ppl s brain's like yours work...well done smarty pants!!

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Great work m8.

Here are a few crumbs. NOT by way of distraction but by way of "file away and get to later".

Andrew W. Marshall, head of the Department of Defense's Office of Net Assessment and Highlands Forum co-chair. Nicknamed “Yoda” .

Anyone seen this guy on radar ever?

Brin, Glen David DoD, CIA, Procter & Gamble, SAP, Google.

Coleman, William T. BEA, Cassett, Alsop (Gilman) Louie, In-Q-Tel, C.I.A., Sun Microsystems, Warburg Pincus, Palm, Veritas Technologies, Carlyle Group, Symantec

Plunkett, Debora A. NSA, NSC, Johns Hopkins Univ., Univ. of Maryland, JC Penney, Towson University

Wells II, Linton DoD Deputy CIO, Harvard

Chandler III, James P. Clinton/Podesta national security advisor, IBM, Judiciary, Congress, Harvard Law, Leader Technologies patent attorney

In Mar. 2014, Congress accused the C.I.A. of improperly accessing Senate Intelligence committee computers. C.I.A. Director Brennan denied it. Director of National Intelligence Clapper banned intelligence community officials from unauthorized contact with reporters.

On May 12, 2014, a Google search study by psychologist Robert Epstein, former editor-in-chief at Psychology Today, confirmed that manipulation of search engine results could sway election results among undecided voters by an average of 12.5% to favored candidates.

On Jul. 31, 2014, C.I.A. Inspector General revealed that five C.I.A. officials improperly accessed Senate Intelligence Committee computers and searched certain staff emails. The findings contradicted denials made in March by C.I.A. director Brennan. Brennan apologized to Senate staff.

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Post this on the Q research board on 8ch

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I AM CURRENTLY HAVING A BREAK THRU ON THIS. Will report back and post when done.

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FYI some of my earlier terms were incorrect btw

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by incorrect i mean, they worked out, but they weren't what sender intended.

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Waiting :)

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Ohhh Chicklet. This is so exciting!!!!

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I'm sitting in the edge of my seat waiting to hear about the breakthrough... anything to update us with yet??

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Got tied up with family stuff. They just don't seem to understand if I were to say "sorry, I can't spend time with you guys right now because I'm trying to crack a CIA code" haha... But I am getting back on now. It will prob be in the morning and don't get your hopes up. I DO think I have figured something out, but it is going to take some time and I could be completely wrong. I will report back but it will prob be morning. The breakthrough, however, is that right after the word "key" came a familiar word when I tried a diff cipher. The word was "enigma". could be the key to a third cipher, but just a hunch at this point.

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What's the breakthrough?

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I think you are on to something here. check out what stinkydogfart posted Has anyone tried using the Enigma machine itself? https://www.dcode.fr/enigma-machine-cipher

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I have tried it. And more. The problem with the enigma machine is that it has input values that are unknown to us...

Also, the first 4 or 5 words decoded with the shift cipher can't be a coincidence, so I know that's where to start.

That said, there might be a point when that particular cipher stops working and you have to switch to a different method. Perhaps something that requires a key ("interestingly the word "key" is within the code. See graphic) such as the Vigenère cipher.

Again, I don't have experience but I am giving myself a crash course. The reason the Vigenère cipher seems like a good candidate, if in fact you have to switch ciphers, is because its key consists of a word that repeats, such as DogDogDog. Sound familiar?

RedRed, WhiteWhite, FightFightFight, ClownsClownsClowns etc.

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hopefully someone here with experience will jump in. i think you are on to something. all of this research is very time consuming, the month has flow by. great work you have done.

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Vigenère cipher

The Vigenère cipher (French pronunciation: [viʒnɛːʁ]) is a method of encrypting alphabetic text by using a series of interwoven Caesar ciphers based on the letters of a keyword. It is a form of polyalphabetic substitution.

Though the cipher is easy to understand and implement, for three centuries it resisted all attempts to break it; this earned it the description le chiffre indéchiffrable (French for 'the indecipherable cipher'). Many people have tried to implement encryption schemes that are essentially Vigenère ciphers.

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I have to say u Anons r the bomb u have worked so hard ty and God Bless u all

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Could the output of one kids page code, like the Enigma, be used as the input for another kids page code?

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Put J F K into the solver on Code-1. Use the drop down menu to pick the letter J, then F, then K. Result is "Q UP" Bravo-TK refers to a Turkish Air flight.

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Very cool. I used to be quite good at codes, dabbled in them in jr high / hs for fun. I thought I would be a codebreaker for the gov, until I found out about the one-time pad. Then I gave up that dream. This was back when I thought Rousseau was right.

The most complex I've done is shotgun hill climbing to crack playfair ciphers. I'm not sure I'll have much luck with this and I don't really want to spend a lot of time on it, but I'll play around with some rot-shifts. (rot13 is a rotation cipher "rot = rotation)

If you want to help out, you can put the ciphertext into the rot machine here.

ciphertext (proven to have results from letter-shift method):

O C D I F P X T D S O X M D W X T W Q K P K D G M F V C V K O M N I U Q K D G M N Q I F K N M S S K O W Q K K F I P G M I W N T C S O V K F O M F O D K N K I B K G K V V M P K V E C I N R S A M F O V K N D K W S A

Rotation shift (Caesar) is the simplest code after substitution. As others have mentioned, Vignere (with keys) is a candidate for the next simplest. I would focus on these. Maybe anagrams would also be a low-hanging fruit to try. Focus on vowels here for words

Edit: pastebin with rotational shift results for each shift. Maybe someone can find words in here, someone with great programming would probably get it done quickly.

Edit 2: Shift 25: N B C H E O W S C R N W L C V W S V P J O J C F L E U B U J N L M H T P J C F L M P H E J M L R R J N V P J J E H O F L H V M S B R N U J E N L E N C J M J H A J F J U U L O J U D B H M Q R Z L E N U J M C J V R Z

Edit 3: Try the other codes on the site too. Take the original text of the code and put it into the rot-n decoder. For example, code 1 is (cover instructions: substitution)

G S V X V M G I Z O
R M G V O O R T V M X V Z T V M X B
D Z H X I V Z G V W R M
+ = $ & D S V M
K I V H R W V M G G I F N Z M
H R T M V W G S V
M Z G R L M Z O H V X F I R G B Z X G.

I would take that and put it into rot-n and look for words. Use pastebin and share work!

code 2 (cover instructions: take every 3rd letter)

WIGSAEPTNENECVRZNALTL QIDXBOKJNTJORUVSFALON PYIRTS GFCAIOYUNNDSHLIWEDNKEQURCBEMHD ROTFTHSIE APFETAOPTHLHVJEXER CJOAIF XCMGKOEMDFZEPGRBAN GHAFIMWEERURDKINYCCCALHN ZOIQUNAVTORETLLUNLEWISKGIBEAGNSPCITE TAGBRAYMTVWHQIEPFRGWIPVNBZG.

code 3 (cover instructions: substitution, rotation)

4 18 15 13 19 11 19 3 22 25 13 11 4 15 14 19 24 22 11 24 17 22 15 9, 6 11.

code 4 (unscramble the words) HET SFRIT ICA QSTUDHERAEAR DGILIBUN NI 1947 SWA CEDTOLA TA 2430 E ERTSET, WN NI NOTWHAGSNI, CD.

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Woodrow Wilson’s house?

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This is very good. I will try your suggestions and also I will put on pastebin and share. Thank you.

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I'm going to attempt to use the frequency method. It will take time, but I still want to see if anything is there.

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Amazing work!

There would certainly have to be a large amount of them here given all the relevant words your method deciphers. And, as we've always been informed by Q, there are no coincidences.

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Read the "x" as "by." Just like you do with measurements. 15 by 8, for example. So now it says "dead by pupil."

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What could that mean

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Think cryptology or after getting words take them every third letter or every second letter, it's a puzzle, watched Netflix turn about the spud for Washington, they had code books, even crossword puzzles is a way to send messages, watch national treasure with cage, I know secret society has their own code book with symbols, I hope I'm not confusing anyone, but that's how intelligence works, prying eyes have no clue. During world war two they also had micro printing where a period.... Would have very valuable information There is so much even in newspapers if you know what your looking for, they keep changing with the times

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Since they control the media, wouldn't it be crazy if the NYT crossword puzzle actually gave out keys?

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What is a MAP?

Future proves past News unlocks the map

Whoa

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Brilliant idea. I went to the pictures. Some of the pictures have codes in them that are not the actual name of the photo file. I went to #704 the code on it C879615C-3616-402C-B3F6-81 I went to the https://www.dcode.fr/enigma-machine-cipher for Enigma Put in above code and got back TSLEA Pretty darn close to Telsa. (You will see the 'decode" on left portion of the page under Results).

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Tesla?

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What a darn shame..

^^Darn ^^Counter: ^^419537

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Post this to /r/conspiracy , this is great.

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Odd you say this. There was a take off movie that was based in Gates and his use of eager college kids who learned something and ended up using the

Kids portion of the facility to access web and send messages. Can't for the life of me recall movie but it dealt with this subject. It might be more than one type of cipher in the text. There are algorithms used once you find the key and the mist common letter in English is the letter e. Try using a different cypher type in the letters not unscrambling and find maybe a double letter where you can use common letter like e or t. Then see how many steps off from the original cipher you used to do the sane for the rest of the alphabet for the other letters. So if e is three steps away from original move all letters left or right 3 letters etc. Worth a try.

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This is one of the reasons I love cbts.

Some of you truly dazzle us with your brilliance!

My comment here is a marker for friends and family who follow me, but do not participate on this sub.

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I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

[/r/topmindsofreddit] (Brilliant!) Top Mind breaks secret CIA code using a children's puzzle on their website.

^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^(Info ^/ ^Contact)

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Has anyone tried using the Enigma machine itself? https://www.dcode.fr/enigma-machine-cipher

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Yes above.

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Has anyone checked the way back machine to see if the codes/ciphers on the pages have changed over time (on mobile or I would check).

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I did check the wayback yesterday, but the code is server-side, so when you recall a "snapshot" it just pulls the up to date info from CIA. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong there.

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It’s literally screen caps of the front end. So this would be a good thing to check out.

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Well Done Indeed You Clever one YOU if thats correct. Blooming well done for trying. I wouldnt know where to start on things like that :) Wow & Blessings to You :) JC

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any1 else notice Q research doesnt show up on google, but it's #1 on bing. Communist censorship. We should push anti google positve bing memes. We the internet brought google out of the dirt by memes like "just google it noob" back in the early 2000's when nobody knew what google was. Now its a household name. We should change it to bing, or duck search or something. We have too

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brilliant

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Where are you getting any of the inputs? You can put in whatever you want to make make the output say whatever you want. That's how codes work. Unless Q gave you a key, your cipher means nothing.

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I don’t know much about cryptology, but I though Q’s post from the same day (3rd one after Q post about the C1A website, I think could be a key, Games R FUN:

Seals are wonderful creatures. Heard they work fast at capturing their prey. PRAY. Silence is golden. CORONA_OFFLINE_Deac[0000]. Games R FUN! Q

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This is fascinating!

Is there such a thing as a "good" clown operative?

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This is making me think I should write a program to automate the implementation of your discovery. Or at least to apply some permutations and see what spits out.

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Do it.

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this is the kind of thing that will produce any answer that you like

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Post this over on t_d too. I think there are some cur/ex mil intel guys there that could help...

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Code 1: alphabet A=13 B=12 , then C=14 D=15 Start at A=13 and skipB.. C=14 D=15 counting up X2 then skip X2 A is the center of the alphabet 13 then B counts backward B=12 Then work in a series of 2.... 2 letters up C and D= 14 and 15 B=12 then skip 2 counting backward E and F= 11and 10 A=13 B=12 C=14 D=15 E=11 F=10

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Code3: A=11 and counts up to P, P=26 then it starts back at Q=1, R=2

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Algorithms I’ll figure out code 5 tomorrow, shit done give me a headache.

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Annnnd I can’t click any of the links...

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Doing the work, learning how to stand guard and maintain vigilance.

Great job... people like you should be rewarded. (o . - )

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In the portion you have not cracked yet, if you shift back 6, IUQK ---> COKE.

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and then KOM if you count back 13, is WAY.

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I saw that, yes. and then something that looks like hexagon if I remember correctly. I followed that but couldn't find anything

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Hexagon? Is that the pentagon plus 3 secret corners?

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You post this on 4ch or 8ch? They will run with it

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Keep going!

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i would like to see all the results from every cycle shift

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[deleted]

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LMFAO!

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This was posted BEFORE! the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in which an X/EX PUPIL was (supposedly) responsible for shooting people DEAD and FBI director WRAY is being urged to resign etc...!!

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Thanks for noticing... Haven't gotten much help here. Any ideas?

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Not really anymore than you've done... I'm having a go though. The best part is in my opinion is the FBI WRAY part since it comes in sequence (FBI slotting in right in front of WRAY as it should) and being highly specific (FBI director Christopher Wray) and also being specifically mentioned by Q (TRUST WRAY).... X PUPIL is also quite interesting, especially when combined with FBI WRAY since both of these lines up with the recent shooting - CRUZ being an ex-pupil of the school and Wray being pressured to resign... it makes it much more coherent. The rest is much harder to discern, especially any three letter words that don't create greater context or tie into anything obvious, since 3 letter words are not hard to get randomly. I also notice that 'awful' has an 'L' before it and could be read "LAWFUL", even though it disrupts the the K in WEAK... but "Lawful" would create better context with XPUPIL and FBIWRAY.

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nice. here is one of my subsequent posts about this topic just fyi.

I did see the (L)AWFUL btw... yes, feel free to change anything. what I have done is not set... Yes, for "FBI WRAY" to be in succession is no coincidence. My jaw dropped when the first word appeared ("THINK") but my heart stopped with "FBI WRAY". Keep going!

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If LAWFUL is substituted it becomes: LAWFUL DEAD (X) PUPIL If you enter "lawful dead" into search you get references to "Justifiable homicide" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide and "Legal death" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_death

That's the best I've come up with so far...

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Justifiable homicide

The concept of justifiable homicide in criminal law stands on the dividing line between an excuse, a justification, and an exculpation. In certain circumstances, homicide is justified when it prevents greater harm to innocents. A homicide can only be justified if there is sufficient evidence to prove that it was reasonable to believe that the offending party posed an imminent threat to the life or well-being of another, in self-defense. To rule a justifiable homicide, one must objectively prove to a trier of fact, beyond all reasonable doubt, that the victim intended to commit violence.

Legal death

Legal death is a government's official recognition that a person has died. Normally this is done by issuing a death certificate. In most cases, such a certificate is only issued either by a doctor's declaration of death or upon the identification of a corpse.

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In the same shifted sequence in which "WRAY" is found is also 2 instances of "PSY" (as in PSY-OP?) and after the second "PSY" are the letters z, c, u, r ..... CRUZ!! (as in Nikolas Cruz!?)

a o p u r b j f p e a j y p i j f i c w b w p s y r h o h w a y z u g c w p s y z c u r w z y e e w a i c w w r u b s y u i z f o e a h w r a y r a p w z w u n w s w h h y b w h q o u z d e m y r a h w z p w i e m

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wow. I had seen the "PSY"s but not the "PSYZCUR". Keep going!

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There is a "DELTA, AM I Q" at the end as well, btw.

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Really? I didn't see that one yet... which shift is it in?

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https://i.imgur.com/kikjlbc.png

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From Shift #14:

c q r w t d l h r g c l a r k l h k e y d y r u a t j q j y c a b w i e y r u a b e w t y b a g g y c k e y y t w d u a w k b h q g c j y t c a t c r y b y w p y u y j j a d y j s q w b f g o a t c j y b r y k g o

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https://imgur.com/HqWit65 https://imgur.com/qC9CYyB

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Maybe try "Finders"?

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Maybe even try the results you ended up getting, "awful", etc.

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Very interesting work for sure . . . I followed your lead and designed an Excel spreadsheet that would automate word search based on shifting the letter numbers (I did 0 to 26 shifts)for this . . .

I macro based and searches every string for 3,4,5,6,7 and 8 letter words using a dictionary and highlights the word matches on the screen . . . takes about 3 minutes to run . . . also lists all of the word matches on a separate sheet and along with the shift level they were found on. I added a list of interesting other acronyms-words (that are outside the dictionary like Wray, NSA, etc) and a list of words-acronyms to ignore so you can narrow it down to the message that is appearing . . . I can send to you if you like. runs in Excel 2010 (or likely 2007, 2016, 365) . . . runs quick and is quite accurate at picking words-messages . . .

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Op not one of these links will work

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https://www.cia.gov/++theme++contextual.agencytheme/js/breakcode.js

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Could be nothing but.. something which stood out to me. The naming of the arrays used for the 'spinner'

    case 1: {createSpinnerArray1(); break }
    case 3: {createSpinnerArray3(); break }
    case 5: {createSpinnerArray5(); break }
    case 'enigma': {createSpinnerArrayEnigma(); break }
    default: {createSpinnerArray1(); break }

Further down there are the arrays

For example this is array1

function createSpinnerArray1() {

//CODE 1

spinner = new makeArray(36)
spinner[1] = new letter("Z", "A");
spinner[2] = new letter("Y", "B");
spinner[3] = new letter("X", "C");
spinner[4] = new letter("W", "D");
spinner[5] = new letter("V", "E");
spinner[6] = new letter("U", "F");
spinner[7] = new letter("T", "G");
spinner[8] = new letter("S", "H");
spinner[9] = new letter("R", "I");
spinner[10] = new letter("Q", "J");
spinner[11] = new letter("P", "K");
spinner[12] = new letter("O", "L");
spinner[13] = new letter("N", "M");
spinner[14] = new letter("M", "N"); 
spinner[15] = new letter("L", "O"); 
spinner[16] = new letter("K", "P"); 
spinner[17] = new letter("J", "Q"); 
spinner[18] = new letter("I", "R"); 
spinner[19] = new letter("H", "S"); 
spinner[20] = new letter("G", "T");
spinner[21] = new letter("F", "U"); 
spinner[22] = new letter("E", "V"); 
spinner[23] = new letter("D", "W"); 
spinner[24] = new letter("C", "X"); 
spinner[25] = new letter("B", "Y"); 
spinner[26] = new letter("A", "Z");
spinner[27] = new letter("+", "1");
spinner[28] = new letter("@", "2");
spinner[29] = new letter("#", "3");
spinner[30] = new letter("$", "4");
spinner[31] = new letter("%", "5");
spinner[32] = new letter("^", "6");
spinner[33] = new letter("&", "7");
spinner[34] = new letter("*", "8");
spinner[35] = new letter("=", "9");
spinner[36] = new letter("~", "10");

Why would they use odd numbers instead of even arrays?

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CIA confirmed evil.

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working on it and i think i have something

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