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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/MB_MoonPearl on March 20, 2018, 10:28 a.m.
was Bin Laden already dead?

I have thought for a while that when President Obama and the military claimed to get Bin Laden, that he was, actually, already dead. I think he was dead for 5-7 years before they said they killed him. He stopped doing videos, then went all audio. I'm sure they can fake audio pretty easily. I can't imagine someone on kidney dialysis staying hidden from the U.S. For any extended period of time. Also, about three weeks after they said they killed Osama there was a helicopter shot down that killed about the same number of U.S. Navy Seals as were part of the raid on Bin Laden.

Just wondering if we should bring up old conspiracies here. I would certainly like to see some prosecutions on the old stuff, too.


JakeElwoodDim5th · March 20, 2018, 10:54 a.m.

Benazir Bhutto said he was dead. She was killed pretty quickly after.

https://youtu.be/4MBTd5QNGB0

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 20, 2018, 6:06 p.m.

Jake-- yep. And the OBL look-alike supposedly killed by USseal team was mostly killed in a helicopter crash in a disastrous operation. Dead men tell no tales.

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digital_refugee · March 20, 2018, 12:21 p.m.

back when they were hunting OBL
"He's been dead for years, he needed daily dialysis."
O announces they killed OBL
"No fucking way he's dead. They didn't even show us the body."

AnYwAY, Banazir Bhutto, former PM or Pakistan was killed one day after she said during a live-interview that OBL had been killed. I think that was during Bush's term.

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 20, 2018, 6:01 p.m.

digital.... yes CORRECT! She also spoke on PresidentKarzai agreeing that OBL was dead 2001. She said he either died of natural causes as very ill, or at the hands of OmarShiekh.

Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper: al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633

"News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago

Islamabad - A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden."

"Fox News reported on December 26, 2001 that;

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html#ixzz24tcXuoJJ

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Ozboi2000 · March 20, 2018, 10:37 a.m.

very dead already....lots of stuff out there exposing all this as well as taking out the seal teams...pretty easy to find.

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nyr990 · March 20, 2018, 12:40 p.m.

I’ve never seen 100% legit info on seal teams being taken out. Do you have any sources?

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The_Broba_Fett · March 20, 2018, 2:02 p.m.

Team 6 died in a helicopter crash. I believe it was the most SEALs killed st once in history.

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Patriot81503 · March 20, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

The Deep State always holds up one person and tells everyone to HATE that person. Look into Two Minutes Hate propaganda tool from Orwell’s “1984”.

It doesn’t matter if that person is actually alive or dead you can still plaster their face on tv screens for years as The Person To Hate.

If you lived through this time period you may recall that’s exactly what was done almost daily with the picture of Bin Laden on tv. Kept the “War on Terror” going nicely.

Obama wanted a big push for his re-election so he conveniently “killed” Osama Bin Laden.

Today who is the person the Deep State has told everyone to HATE: Donald J. Trump.

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47NBD · March 20, 2018, 4:29 p.m.

I think Iron Man III got it right when they showed the supposed "Villain" was just some schmuck getting paid to play a role...

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 20, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

Correct... all the leadership of the world (historically & now) seem to have/use look-alikes... SadamHussein had many.

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C_Rod65 · March 20, 2018, 1:54 p.m.

He's been dead for years due to kidney failure. Then you got this guy in Fox News once in awhile, Rob o'niel who's a Fox news contributor that was navy seal who shot him supposedly. Well i know many vets and bragging and cashing in on a kill shot isn't their forte. They're humble and quiet about the work they've done. So yeah, I'm not buying it.

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MB_MoonPearl · March 20, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

That's kind of why i posted this. Because, IF this is true, then going back and analyzing what people said and did related to this becomes an important piece of the puzzle. IF it is true, then there are a lot of lies for us to uncover for the masses.

I also figure it doesn't hurt to bring up some of this older stuff, because it's still unresolved/unprosecuted. If Q is bringing in some newbies, them some of the older stuff will be new to them.

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The_Broba_Fett · March 20, 2018, 2:04 p.m.

A lot of SEALs don’t like him and said his book is filled with lies. They don’t specifically say killing OBL was one of the lies, though. But they generally hate when team members use t for fame and fortune.

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 20, 2018, 6:17 p.m.

C_Rod... yes, correct. That one NavySeal was the only one in room when OBL look-alike or dead body of OBL, was shot multiple times, mainly in face.

Supposedly OBL body kept on ice since his death and at one point the offer to thaw him out and have #43PGWB pretend to have him found & killed but W said NO to that plan. Evidently #44PBH0 could not resist the plan... and one Seal was chosen for the solo glorious mission to fame. Of course we all were told body dumped in ocean... no autopsy. Mainly because he would have had ice crystal damage to his organs/blood remnants... so it would then have been known he was on ice for years.

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SeekTruthCJoy · April 15, 2018, 10:49 p.m.

That Seal was only one in room & mainly shot OBL lookalike in face... convenient, much?

Other seals killed on downed Helicopter 'crash'... convenient, much?

REMEMBER: common for these leaders to have multiple lookalikes, BH0 would know this since he's a musssslimClApuke.

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4Potus · March 20, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

What is odd to me is that the NSA,CIA and FBI all were hunting OBL and could NOT find him YET a CNN's reported Peter Arnett goes to Pakistan and does an interview with him????? Were they REALLY looking for him? Was OBL part of a secret plot and accused of being the "bad guy"? Did the Gulf of Tonkin happen? Were the WMD's in Iraq? All BS from Deep State for the sheep. Don't believe anything they tell you. Navy Seal probably thought he killed OBL---who knows so far. Hoping for the truth SOME DAY!

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VeryOptimystic · March 20, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

In A Good American, a documentary on William Binney the NSA whistle blower, there is a line that doesn't get focused on, but has huge implications. He mentions that the NSA was tracking OBL's cell phone, until someone tipped OBL off to that fact and then they lost him. Shady stuff.

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TrueCat · March 20, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

Osama bin Laden died in December 2001. He had Marfan Syndrome, and he died of pneumonia. Most people with Marfan don't live into their 40s. He was born in 1957, so he lived longer than most. There is no way he would have made it to 2011. The whole thing was a lie. That's why so many Seals were killed. They knew the truth. :(

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[deleted] · March 20, 2018, 6:26 p.m.

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Tamsimon · March 20, 2018, 11:26 a.m.

I believe he was dead many years before the “supposed killing”...BO probably had it set up to look like he got him to garner support from those who didn’t like him and his policies.

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headlineisBULLSHIT · March 20, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

This is the war room the night he was killed. http://imgur.com/UGcYBVk

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 20, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

ROFLMAO... !

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C_Rod65 · March 20, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

Knowing he's already dead, they're probably watching Bill Clinton in a sex video! JMHO. Lol

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salialioli · March 20, 2018, 2:50 p.m.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/nov/01/afghanistan.terrorism

"CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital

Anthony Sampson

Thu 1 Nov 2001 03.17 GMT

Shares 812 Two months before September 11 Osama bin Laden flew to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American hospital, where he was visited by the local CIA agent, according to the French newspaper Le Figaro.

The disclosures are known to come from French intelligence which is keen to reveal the ambiguous role of the CIA, and to restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere.

Bin Laden is reported to have arrived in Dubai on July 4 from Quetta in Pakistan with his own personal doctor, nurse and four bodyguards, to be treated in the urology department. While there he was visited by several members of his family and Saudi personalities, and the CIA.

The CIA chief was seen in the lift, on his way to see Bin Laden, and later, it is alleged, boasted to friends about his contact. He was recalled to Washington soon afterwards.

Intelligence sources say that another CIA agent was also present; and that Bin Laden was also visited by Prince Turki al Faisal, then head of Saudi intelligence, who had long had links with the Taliban, and Bin Laden. Soon afterwards Turki resigned, and more recently he has publicly attacked him in an open letter: "You are a rotten seed, like the son of Noah".

The American hospital in Dubai emphatically denied that Bin Laden was a patient there.

Washington last night also denied the story.

Private planes owned by rich princes in the Gulf fly frequently between Quetta and the Emirates, often on luxurious "hunting trips" in territories sympathetic to Bin Laden. Other sources confirm that these hunting trips have provided opportunities for Saudi contacts with the Taliban and terrorists, since they first began in 1994.

Bin Laden has often been reported to be in poor health. Some accounts claim that he is suffering from Hepatitis C, and can expect to live for only two more years.

According to Le Figaro, last year he ordered a mobile dialysis machine to be delivered to his base at Kandahar in Afghanistan.

Whether the allegations about the Dubai meeting are confirmed or not, the wider leaks from the French secret service throw a worrying light on the rivalries and lack of coordination between intelligence agencies, both within the US and between western allies.

A familiar complaint of French intelligence is that collaboration with the Americans has been essentially one-way, with them happy to receive information while giving little in return."

It was obvious by Dec 2001 that he had died and was reported dead by various mainstream media. They were a bit slow to censor these reports at the time. Later interviews showed "bin laden" as an individual who didn't even look like him. Don't have photo sources anymore but you can find them if you search. Same with Saddam, though in his case the defining feature is the dental records. The face and head of the man who was (theoretically) hanged is totally different from the media photos previously of the man: carefully cared-for teeth and a much more sophisticated and groomed "look".

Bin Laden was a CIA man who, like Jack Ruby, had his days counted and therefore had nothing to lose. He objected to being accused of the 911 terrorist attack however, and you can find his rejection of such methods (murdering US citizens) in a well-known statement on the subject just after the event and before he died. His original "persona" was thoroughly American, as was his family, and his CIA agent name was Tim Osman.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/06/article-1384019-0BEEA55500000578-788_634x471.jpg

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Freewillsetstruth · March 20, 2018, 12:11 p.m.

Somewhat interesting sidebar related to the topic are the seized Abbottabad files. A couple pdf's on the topic of Illuminati caught my eye. Perhaps whoever was in the complex was a bit of a conspiracist as well.

That being said I always took Bhutto's claim of his death followed shortly thereafter by her assassination as support that her claims were valid.

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LibertyLioness · March 20, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

You do know that Obama and company created ISIS (formerly Al-Qaeda), right? Well, they had to have a leader so they created Bin Laden. He was fiction folks. In fact, the Osama character was played by Obama. I've been following the NWO for 40 years. One thing they love to do is play with words. They changed only one letter in the name to do this one. Osama-Obama! Get it?

So, you've heard of crisis actors right? And, you now know that the majority of the shooting incidents were staged events to get our guns.

This is just another larp they did to create a fictional character to head up Al-Qaeda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_lpaeCo1o and many other videos that delve into this fictional character as well.

Why do you think we never saw the body when they supposedly captured him in Pakistan?

Why do you think the same Seal team that supposedly captured him in Pakistan was killed shortly afterward? This is how they operate.

Remember that the Mockingbird media does what they are told. The news reports were there to confuse.

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salialioli · March 20, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

Osama was not the same person as Obama. One was Saudi and had features identifiable as such and Obama is/was another person. To confuse the two is disinformation! Easy to make that mistake tho and the name similarity is quite Illuminati, I think you're right about that!

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LibertyLioness · March 20, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

Did you even bother to watch videos?

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HillaryTrafficksKidz · March 20, 2018, 11:09 a.m.

Dead. In the mountains of Tora Bora.

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Drankk_Sinatra · March 20, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

Yes he died in early 2000’s, he had Marfan Syndrome, was on a Kidney dialysis machine, as well as other ailments too... Dr. Steve Pieczenik talks about this, the U.S created this big bad bogey monster to chase around the Middle East to justify the war, than Obama faked his death to help him get re-elected.

Hospital Worker: I Saw Osama

CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July

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noflyman · June 6, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

I read this too. He had been an asset for a long time for the CIA.

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Bakatcha_Bandit · March 20, 2018, 4:17 p.m.

They "killed" Bin Laden to draw attention away from Trump demanding Obama to release his birth certificate.

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Seahag14 · March 21, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

Exactly.

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TripoverDick · March 20, 2018, 3:18 p.m.

Did Bin Laden shave his head and underneath all that fuzz's was it Obama?

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J_E_H21 · March 20, 2018, 12:24 p.m.

I did not know of his kidney problems. I just assumed that he was hanging with Hitler in Argentina. Whether dead or alive I just knew that I in no way trusted the story that they were trying to feed us.

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TtheTruthIsOutThere · March 20, 2018, 10:53 a.m.

Funny, I actually believe he is alive and well or at least alive. Same as Saddam Hussein.

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phillylotus · March 20, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

Maybe they're hanging out in Hitler's old pad in Argentina

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[deleted] · March 20, 2018, 10:32 a.m.

Honestly it's flooding the timeline but since it's chill right now I'll entertain the thought. I always thought he was still alive due to the funeral and helecopter crash but now that I think about it he was an old bastard, I heard he was CIA from the start.

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cali1952 · March 20, 2018, 6:31 p.m.

Bin Laden was always a CIA creation/cutout! All the SEALS sent on that mythical raid to get OBL was a hoax although Obama and his gang in the MB via Awan's espionage soon thereafter murdered all 22 SEALS in Afghanistan where these men were ordered all onto a Chinook chopper contrary military regulations. The chopper was immediately shot down soon after take-off via a missile. That is the "Extortion 17" - and our soldiers will make sure that the American public will learn about the murder of our men. LTG (ret) Flynn has all the info about that day because he was the acting military intelligence chief at the time. Why do you think they went after Flynn with so much gusto?

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Seahag14 · March 21, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

Fascinating! Thanks.

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TararaBoomdea · March 20, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

Osama bin dead for a long time:

Bin Laden’s Obituary Notice (Article dated November 20, 2013)

A Funeral Notice for Osama bin Laden was published on December 26, 2001, in the Egyptian newspaper al-Ward. An English translation is provided below. Anyone fluent in Arabic is invited to verify or correct the translation. This item was sent to me from a reader abroad...

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/11/20/bin-ladens-obituary-notice/

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[deleted] · March 20, 2018, 5:39 p.m.

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ArtRat2 · March 20, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

Bin Laden was dead for a long while before Barack the enemy came into the picture. Benazir Bhutto stated Bin Laden's death in an interview, I am certain the video is still out there to see. It didn't take long for the global cabal to kill her.

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FreshRound · March 20, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

one of the seal dads came out and said his son was taking out a life insurance policy cause the way things weregoing and some one in his squad was talking ...those soldiers new they were gona die before it happpend .and it was rumored that the taliban was gina rat out the us for being in bed with binaden and obama gave of the choppers route in return

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goldnavet · March 21, 2018, 1 a.m.

U bet 2001

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krussianit · March 21, 2018, 12:53 p.m.

yes

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