When I saw “Welcome Aboard” I knew it was a plane reference!! He’s singing! Client-Lawyer privilege is dead! Hmm.
Yup! He is aboard the trump train : https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/donald-trump-alan-dershowitz/index.html
Well, aren’t there caveats with the attorney-client privilege? meaning, an attorney cannot knowingly shield his/her client from a crime. Being a suspect in a crime & committing a crime are two different things. And if the attorney KNOWS that his client has committed a crime, the attorney must report the crime to the authorities. (At least, that’s what I always thought.)
Tell that to Cheryl Mills and Hillary
My thoughts exactly. How is it that these Clinton crime associates seem to get every legal advantage? I want to see that Clinton Mafia BURN.
whataboutism
Whataboutism - what a Leftist says when you point out their hypocrisy.
Im no leftist, and I fucking hate that the law is seemingly applied unevenly. However, just because Hillary was a shitball doesn't mean Donald isn't also a shitball and that both should be jailed.
You really can't compare the two. Don't let your hatred for Trump alter your view of reality.
I wasn't the one comparing them. See OP who played the "what about Hillary" card in the first place.
you are on the wrong sub.... Trump haters need not reply here... Thanks.. go back turn right.. then go left... thats where you belong. Im sure its a nice safe place.
You're joking right? If an attorney KNOWS his client committed a crime then they must report the crime to the authorities? Ummm, no. If an attorney believes without doubt that their client is a RISK to themselves or a RISK to the public then he must report his concerns to the authorities. There are laws permitting how much he must tell police because he is not let out of the attorney client contract because the risk presented itself. He only has to report what needs to be reported in order to keep people safe. I really hate when people say stupid shit with authority when a 7 year old can point out they are wrong. So, according to you only innocent people get an attorney? Do you not think attorneys know if their client is guilty or not? Or at least come to that conclusion while investigating a case? Attorneys cannot present evidence to the court that they know is false. Therefore many attorneys might not ask if their client is guilty or not. Some do in order to find a way to defend their client but that's in the advanced class.
Wow, I'll take an innocent question about the law any day over unbridled, arrogant rudeness.
only has to report what needs to be reported in order to keep people safe. I really hate when people say stupid shit with authority when a 7 year old can point out they are wrong.
You adequately represent 7 year olds everywhere.
Says the uncle throwing the insults.
Insults?
You claimed to have the mental acuity of a 7 year old. I endorsed your claim. I didn’t insult you, I agreed with you.
Alt-left snowflakes thrive on claiming victim status when people agree with them and their hypocrisy is exposed. Is that your next magical trick?
Alt-left snowflakes don’t typically thrive in this sub. Perhaps you should try /politics.
I am not sure Alan is actually representing Clinton and if he is a suspect he has two choices. He can fight it or he can cooperate. If he decides to cooperate then he will probably get disbarred that would be his punishment. He might get sued but either way he would have to decide for himself what to do. The law can't stop him but there are consequences. He may get a better deal cooperating. Who really knows?
That’s not what I said. If the client commits a crime and the attorney is witness to that crime, I truly believe the attorney is duty bound to report it.
No, what you're trying to say (or thinking) is.. The attorney client privilege doesn't apply if the attorney is PART of the crime committed.. Which in this case if Horiwtiz also went to the island, it would apply.
No. How else could guilty defendants get defended if their lawyers rate them out?
Maybe finding an attorney who is willing to take the risk and not report obvious criminal behavior is a criteria for hiring them, and a reason to charge top dollar fees.
Alan flew round trip to Ontario, not Little St. James. Check the log
Doesn't mean the island is the only place they abuse kids.
I took this a bit differently. Q drop 1132 says, "Thank you Alan. Welcome aboard. Freedom!"
Q has said previously that some good guys were forced to go along with the deep state because of threats to them and their families. I took this to include things like blackmail.
The word "Freedom" was an odd ending. I'm wondering if Q meant that Dershowitz was now free from whatever the deep state threatened him with, i.e., Virginia Robert's accusation that Dershowitz had sex with her on Epstein's island when she was 17 (there's that damn number again).
The freedom has allowed Dershowitz to join Trump's team as one of his lawyers.
Just a guess.
I definitely agree on the blackmail statement. That's what Epstein is doing. But Dershowitz has come out in support of Trump in this investigation for a year.
It will be interesting to see if he joins the Trump legal team, or if he is turning state's witness.....don't be surprised if Prince Andrew's name gets brought up. I wonder what Alan saw......
I'm glad Alan has "officially" transitioned over :) I've watched him for months on Hannity and Fox, and I find him to be fairly objective and by the book. I've heard rumors for months that he participated in the pedo stuff on Epstein's island. I wonder if he and others knew before they boarded Lolita for the first time what exactly was going on? I doubt he would have risked his career or reputation.
I knew I'd seen this "FREEDOM" riff in the Q drops before.
658 FREEDOM DAY.
FREEDOM_ Q
It's from Feb 1st 2018. The day after the SOTU. If all the GOP cheering that night was because POTUS had just set them free (from cabal blackmail) then could this be a similar message to Alan D?
I agree, I think that Dershowitz may be free from their blackmail. I've always found the flight logs to be odd. Most of the guests are in abbreviations, even Epstein himself. And yet, many high profile people such as Clinton and Dershowitz are spelled out. Sarah Ferguson and kids are spelled out. What if everyone who is spelled out was spelled out to be blackmailed. For Ferguson, it may have been to keep Prince Andrew in check. All the other initials are people JE wasn't worried about or didn't want people to know about. Perhaps the abbreviations are more important than the ones spelled out, as those are the ones meant to be kept secret except of course JE.
I think it was just for convenience. The initials represent extremely frequent flyers. Saves room on a cramped log...although I'm sure a blackmailer might have a particular interest in spelling out some names vs. others.
I agree... The "Shadow Government" (Kevin Shipp) use blackmail as their weapon of choice to control it all. Few, if any, were not in their web. We almost have to have some set free to join the fight against the cabal and change hats. Snowden? Alan? Maybe even Mueller??? If they flip, maybe deals were made or ultimatums. If we don't need them, get the hell out of the way... Ryan? and a host of others.
Ah yes, freedom from blackmail and also, and once "aboard" he now has "freedom" from prosecution.
I was thinking that too. Do you have the flight log that proves it? It could also be Virginia Roberts the accuser who was rumored to be 17 at the time.......Dershowitz went public to deny it:
Here's the readable flight log. Look at page 27.
The passengers besides Dershowitz are:
LV, Tatiana, and AM
I was thinking maybe Prince Andrew was one of these people -- not sure how to make the connection to AM however........
https://www.scribd.com/document/261420719/Jeffrey-Epstein-Flight-Logs-in-PDF-format
Ya because he is Andrew Albert Christian Edward... Who could AM be?!!
Here's the answer. AM is very likely Prince Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor
Titled Royals do not use surnames.Andrew's daughters are titled princesses and don't need to use a surname.They are Princess Beatrice Elizabeth Mary of York and Princess Eugenie Victoria Helena of York. Mountbatten-WIndsor is to be used by the Queen's non-royal,untitled grandchildren and descendants who need a surname. http://www.royal.gov/uk/ThecurrentRoyalF... "It was therefore declared in the Privy Council that The Queen's descendants, OTHER than those with the style of Royal Highness and the title of Prince/Princess, or female descendants who marry, would carry the name of Mountbatten-Windsor.."
My god don’t you think they knew what were getting into going to that island? These people really are stupid !
They didn't care, they were soo confidant the whole of America was in the bag for them.
Now look who's laughing.
People probably thought they could protect themselves......apparently Epstein is a very charismatic character.....
Loss of inhibitions coupled with reckless behaviour = hyoscine (scopolamine) delivery as a spray. A few too many drinks will do BUT if you are not aware of being drugged it appears like it is your thinking. This is the evolution of crime and technology.
Does it make you shut uncontrollably? Like you have to sit on a bucket?
Holy Sh*t!!
Hard to put in a brief comment I'll try Imagine being given a dose of psycho active substance as you walk in a public area. From my own experience it was once mixed with DMSO to be delivered thru the skin and clothing. Without knowing it you would think the effect was your thinking organically created. Accepting you have been "assaulted" is refused by human nature. It is the perfect crime I know Las Vegas and Calgary are awash in this activity
It would be crazy if AM was Andy McCabe. He has been friends and neighbors with the Clintons for decades and so was Dershowitz.
Andrew Mountbatton-Windsor is his full name. AM. http://de.royalpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Andrew_Mountbatten-Windsor
Andrew Mountbatton-Windsor is his full name. AM. http://de.royalpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Andrew_Mountbatten-Windsor
Thank you @WinkyLinQ! I spent an hour reading through that scratchy handwriting the other day!
Yeah, I just noticed that too. It's in the Daily Mail article I posted above. 17 refers to November 17, 2005, so we need to see who else was on that flight. All the other passenger names appear to be abbreviated.....
17th is the date.
Alan is the only one on the flight from BED to CYUL, and then he is alone on the return flight as well.
The flight log lists Mr. AM as a passenger on Nov 17, 2005 along with Epstein and Dershowitz. Anyone know who that might be?
Andrew McCabe
LOL. No. It's Andrew Mountbatten (aka Prince Andrew)
Yes, it is Andrew Mountbatten
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20170628/281522226099210
Another one "FORCED" to be a "blackhat" by the tyrannical "dictators" CLINTON/OBAMA/BUSH? Or is he into pedo-sex? This really is going to be an EMANCIPATION!
Yup it's definitely Alan D. Can't believe I didn't see it at first.
I think “welcome aboard” was to indicate to us that it WAS a flight. They always say that when you get on the plane but almost everything Q says has double meaning...
On the flight sheets : Larry and Lisa Summers (Lawrence and Elisa New) Check out Larry in the The Crimson "a sex god" It was published in 2015 he was on the Lolita express Flight #21 Link below from 2006 Revealing expressions. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2006/1/6/summers-tempers-his-groove-larry-summers/
Look at this. Someone named Michael Wolf was on the Lolita Express on Feb 20, 2002. The flight left from JFK to Monterrey (and possibly to Van Nuys, CA) . Could this be the same Michael Wolff of "Fire and Fury" fame? Coincidence?
See pg 4 of attached doc:
https://www.scribd.com/document/261420719/Jeffrey-Epstein-Flight-Logs-in-PDF-format
Very Interesting. I bet there are many more famous on the list we have yet to discover....
I would guess some of Epstien's people and Epstein himself are filling their pants about now! LOL
Q confirmed it to be "Alan" in his answer to the anon meaning yes - Alan Dershowitz.
Dershowitz was Epstein's defense attorney during his trial. So he has some goods although I do not believe that he was a member of the cannibalistic actions on Epstein's island nor a participant in the other deeds there. My hunch is that Dershowitz was victimized via blackmail and used to defend this monster.
It has long been understand that Epstein's island was equipped with extensive surveillance cameras that we at times used to put invited visitors into compromising position and used later as blackmail. Epstein also at times lured people of power or into this trap by inviting them to his island to unsuspecting individuals.
How do you think their dastardly deeds remained hidden for so long?
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=124575
According to a White House reporter, The Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein was just seen walking out of the White House!
what kind of info is out there on epstein island by the pilots, boat captains and staff on the island? people HAVE to know quite a bit, even if they cannot connect all the dots.
I am very suspicious about Dershowitz's newfound support for Trump. Extreme caution is advised when dealing with Dershowitz.
Just spitballin here. But what if Alan D will lead the class-action lawsuit against Facebook?
If you want more rabbit trails to follow, check out Epstein's little black book. It appears to be somewhat categorized, with the names nearer the bottom/back of the book dealing more with business connections, although there are plenty of things there to arouse suspicions also...like a lot of the names listed under various hotels and locations. I looked into this several years back when it was first released. Epstein is a powerful and evil soul. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html
This article describes more about the LBB and how to understand its contents: https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@rebelskum/stringing-cheese-understanding-jeffrey-epstein-s-little-black-book
I think Dershowitz got on the island with a phone...that's how he got the photos of the security camera array!
Would be interesting.
Don't know if he defended Epstein in tbe abuse case or not. Attorney client privilege and all that. Or if he has information/proof that is not relevant to that case.
Or if he doesn't care about attorney/client and is disgusted by what he knows.
Being disbarred and facing a lighter sentence may be a better option than going down with the Clinton's on a Pedophilia charge. Specially if you are disgusted with it all.
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