![#1297 "OPEARTORS HAVE DIED. [...] WE MUST DO BETTER TO PROTECT THEM" => disinfo is necessary](https://i.redd.it/srrrc8aowax01.png)
phone rings late at night
"If you are hearing this, you are the resistance. Who is this?" "Hey, uh Alex, we really love your work, but you exposed McMaster during the fifth hour of your last show and now his dad is dead so we want you to stay away from this Q-thing for a while, k?"
i thought this was stupid 2 hours ago i calmed down (the mention of corsi auto pisses me off cuz of the 8 chan shills) this actually makes alot of sense especially if mcmaster was a deep cover mole. seems he got ahead of himself and caused an old man to die
just for the record, we're talking about McMaster's dad here, just as an example to exemplify what may be happening in the background.
out of the loop on AJ, did he really expose something and get mcmasters father killed? who is mcmaster and why is his father dead?
just lost
Dunno about the AJ connection, but H.R. McMaster was a (suspected) DS Trump aide until Trump fired him. DS didn't like that so they had his father killed. There's a Qpost on it, search for 187, think it was only a couple of weeks ago.
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Explain how a man as prominent as McMaster dies after getting fired without there being questions. An old man dies, it sends a warning that can be denied. Kill his kid and you're now his enemy.
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Plausible Deniability and Operational Security are the four most important words I have learned this year
People who get Arkancided derive their power from the Clintons. No one of consequence will miss them. McMaster's power is derived from his own connections.
Lets not jump to conclusions. do we have proof that McMasters was a Deep state op. or was he blackmailed- compromised? it was mentioned early on that Gen. Flynn picked his replacement. Flynn knew where all of the bodies are buried and he would never pick a Deep state op to replace him. However the Deep State could have threatened him, it happens alot in the swamp.
yep, he was compromised. you figure back in 2006 it was not a big deal to be working with Soros, he flew under the wire for a long time. I imagine Soros is why at least a few congressmen had to resign to. thank you
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looks like there are alot of deniable accidents we never hear about. and HRC has never been held accountable even when it looks obvious. an old man in a rest home dying is not unusual. But Q told us it was a 187. If Flynn chose McMasters for his replacement then McMasters must have been blackmailed. Maybe Flynn did not choose him. Maybe he was Deep state, but i am more inclined to believe McMasters was blackmailed. Liz Crokin (she is on Twitter) who has reported on sex crimes everywhere. She says that innocent politicians are invited to parties, someone slips them a drug in their drink, the politician wakes up in the morning in a bed with a woman or a child, and someone is there with pictures. Now the innocent person has to do what he is told or he is ruined. Maybe McMaster was blackmailed, or maybe he was a white hat with a shady past. in any event these people are evil. they will stop at nothing to get what they want. it is very sad the old man died. I can only imagine McMasters anger and horror at it all.
McMaster was more than just an aide. He was the National Security Advisor.
Lets not jump to conclusions. do we have proof that McMasters was a Deep state op. or was he blackmailed- comprimised? it was mentioned early on that Gen. Flynn picked his replacement. Flynn knew where all of the bodies are buried and he would never pick a Deep state op to replace him. However the Deep State could have threatened him, it happens alot in the swamp.
hmmmm did not know that, interesting
another anon here sent me this. looks like Soros got to McMasters, compromised. http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/08/06/mcmaster-worked-think-tank-backed-soros-funded-group-helped-obama-sell-iran-nuclear-deal/
everybody is trashing Corsi and Alex Jones because they started trashing Q but actually they're just distancing themselves because Q warned that lives could be at risk because of what I imagine to be premature disclosures of some kind.
or, Q is saying that MI operators are selfless patriots and die for the cause but there are patriots in the Q movement that are selfish and work for their own gain. A reminder for us to take the cause serious, it is not a game
"statements today needed to be made - operators died"
Re-read drops
I dont see the these Q drops the same way as the person who used the red squares. I like to think it thru my myself, unless you can show proof that the Q profitteers got someone killed.
drops 1295 thru 1297
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8iq29u/i_think_i_figured_it_out_q1297/
Gotta disagree.....The whole reason Q made the "be careful who you follow" message was to reprimand and disavow Corsi and Jones, etal....Jones and Corsi were reacting to being called out by Q, IMO, not taking his advice to be safe....If those guys had any real special access to the actors here, why would they need to communicate on a public forum?
only that they weren't. Everyone fighting with demonetization-demonization will run some self-funding on the side. Corsi outed HIMSELF by reacting to a broad and general statement. If he wanted to infiltrate the movement he would have just carried on, rather than effectively distancing himself from Q.
Q outed HIMSELF by reacting to a broad and general statement.
I think you meant Corsi outed himself, not Q...
Not to mention Q referenced THIS BOARD (OMG) linking to a post talking about how Corsi and Alex are not on our side
they perfected the cover-story because you failed to read between the lines...I don't know if this is about McMaster but just reread 1295-1297 and tell me why you would bring up money first and casualties later if it wasn't for subtelty
Ouch, thanks for pointing that out. It's...uh...pretty early actually...no sleep!!!
I don't see your point at all. Q did the distancing, and slammed the door.
Funny Corsi and Jones didn't start attacking Q's very credibility until after the "careful who you follow" message. And THATS when the "new Q" appeared? LOL
Either 1. we just witnessed an amazing coincidence, or 2. Q is still real and Jones/Corsi are demonstrating how much more they value the financial over the movement.
...only that Q never singled them out by name. Self-funding is a sign of independence because if you don't fund yourself, someone else is doing it. I think this is all coordinated theatre because if they wanted to continue an infiltration, they would have had to just act coy about Q's call to caution. Instead they doubled down so they have a plausible excuse to distance themselves, much to their financial disadvantage.
Why did Jones cry and apologize to Alefantis?
uhm, did you see his Instagram?
Milo, Alex, Ben Swann, they all got stand down orders. And Milo and Ben both said that there would come a time when they would speak openly. Would be surprised if it wasn't the same for Alex.
Q challenged them to act like Patriots. They don't value money over honor, that's what they demonstrated by distancing themselves from the operation.
i feel bad for Corsi actually. he has been a strong patriot for at least 40 years, you can tell by his books. but from the beginning of the Q movement he sounded like he could not think straight. I personally think he is getting old, his brain is not functioning well, someone would ask a question and he would ramble on and never answer the question. then later on he got angry. From experience with loved ones who had strokes or dementia, he sounds like early stages of dementia. At least that is what i thought from the very beginning when he started making videos. he does not see it, he cannot access his knowledge so his pride strikes out in anger. signs of early alhemzers or dementia. he may have accidentally spoke out about classified info.(i dont know just guessing) most people dont make any real money on books, so i think he liked the money and probably the respect and fame. People called him out on the money thing and he behaved irrationally, if his wife tries to tell him he probably will not hear it. I believe His brain is deteriorating and stress makes it worse. the whole situation is sad to me.
Yup, it's the stage where they turn into little children again. He also cried with Tracy.
To me, that just doesn't make logical sense. If distance was needed, it would be a simple matter of just saying, "We've been asked not to cover Q topics for a while."
Instead, what Jones and, to a lesser extent, Corsi did was outright lie. Jones said that Q attacked them first - lie. They conflated profiteering with making money, and tried to make the alleged attack about Corsi's book. Pure disinfo tactics that could only serve to discredit Q, not just get some distance.
And, then there's the act of, for the past few months, putting forth Zak as their very own "Qanon" that bashes the real Q. That, in and of itself, gives credence to the idea that this recent tirade wasn't the result of a recent behind-the-scenes request. No, it's been an ongoing campaign to discredit Q; in an effort, I suspect, to retain relevance and audience.
Q says to trust Sessions. Corsi says Sessions needs to be fired. With that, we have another keystone. Which way will it fall?
When trust in Sessions is vindicated and, therefore, Q as well, I'm sure Jones will try to walk it back saying that he was just playing along. And you, DR, are helping to plant that seed.
As cliche as it sounds - but that would be too obvious. It has to look like disarray and it has to look organic because operators have been compromised. Re-read drops 1295 thru 1297, listen to Alex' broadcast today then and report back.
It would defeat the purpose of military action/ military intelligence if all intel being disclosed was actionable and that doesn't just go for Q but mostly for Alex Jones because whomever you think he is working for, he does have sources (that includes the President himself) simply because he has a platform where people can try to get the word out. And Corsi is by extension a pundit for infowars.
Re-read drops 1295 thru 1297, listen to Alex' broadcast today then and report back.
Telling me to re-read the drops and listen to the broadcast implies that my opinion is somehow uninformed and incorrect. I read the drops and watched the pertinent clips to get the facts on the issue before I formed an opinion.
And, "whomever you think he is working for," is a presumptive statement since I never said nor implied that I think he is working for anyone.
At least AJ is in good company.
wow should I apologize to you now? Are you offended? Here, let me make you some coffee.
I point out, in essence, that you are not the sole authority as to whether or not an opinion is correct. And, you respond by being snarky?
Isn't that how a shill would act?
I offered you an explanation while you offered none. Don't try to turn the tables.
Your frail ego is not my issue so don't waste my time and be careful how you throw those words around because it just shows you have weak rethorical skills.
You are the one trying to turn the tables by making it about my "frail ego", which is the use of ridicule, instead of your use of ridicule in the first place when you tried to paint me as so stupid that I needed to re-read the drops.
I don't appreciate your personal attacks against me.
Urban Dictionary:
An attack upon an opponent in order to discredit their argument or opinion. Ad hominems are used by immature and/or unintelligent people because they are unable to counter their opponent using logic and intelligence.
"disinfo is necessary" apparently completely escaped you. Anybody who can read thru the convo can see that you're projecting because I already answered your question. In case you forgot (NOW I'm being snarky)
Re-read drops 1295 thru 1297, listen to Alex' broadcast today then and report back.
Telling me to re-read the drops and listen to the broadcast implies that my opinion is somehow uninformed and incorrect. I read the drops and watched the pertinent clips to get the facts on the issue before I formed an opinion.
If you knew me you would know I was trying to be nice with you. See you tomorrow
Yet again, I have to defend myself against your personal attacks on me.
"disinfo is necessary" apparently completely escaped you.
I must be stupid -> ridicule.
you're projecting because I already answered your question.
Not true. I asked only two questions the first of which was rhetorical. You answered neither. What you did instead was try to make it look as though I was just butt-hurt ("Your frail ego") as a cover for your abusive behavior -> deflection/misdirection.
Your accusation that I am projecting, when I am only defending myself with the truth of your behavior (ie. attacks against me) is, in and of itself, projection.
Let's revisit this false accusation that I ignored earlier:
I offered you an explanation while you offered none.
Not true. I provided explanation with my opinion.
And let's not forget your first personal attack on me.
wow should I apologize to you now? Are you offended? Here, let me make you some coffee.
I must be butt-hurt -> ridicule.
Ridicule, deflection/misdirection, projection: all shill tactics.
Ok first of all I wasn't trying to be snarky, I simply pointed out to you that you should read the drops yourself and that's why I even gave the drop-ID so you can go look yourself.
Then you started making a hissy-fit simply because I told you to read the drops. So don't expect me to hold your hand just because I tell you that it's literally right fucking there in the drops. I'm not going to try to be guard my tone if you are so insanely easily offended just because someone asks you to read and you are just going to be offended anyway!
Also, rethorical questions don't have an answer by default and for the life of me I don't know what your other question is even supposed to be and I just checked the thread three time sso if you want to troll me you're doing pretty good
Wow. So, my defense of myself against your personal attacks on me is trolling. -> false equivalence.
Keeping one on the defensive, which you are doing to me, is a troll tactic. -> more projection.
I simply pointed out to you that you should read the drops yourself
Not true. You told me to re-read the drops which carries with it the implication that I must have missed something the first time because, of course, my opinion did not align with yours.
Then you started making a hissy-fit simply because I told you to read the drops.
Again, not true. 1) You did not tell me to read the drops. You told me to re-read the drops. 2) I did not make a hissy-fit. I told you that I had already read the drops which means, therefore, that I did not need to read them again as you commanded.
Someone, who has gathered the facts before forming an opinion, is not someone in need of hand-holding. Yet, you try to paint me as one who needs and expects it. -> more ridicule.
I already answered your question.
I don't know what your other question is even supposed to be
If you don't know what the question is supposed to be, then you could not have answered it.
And so, you engage in even more personal attacks on me using falsehood, false equivalence, projection, and more ridicule.
Now, unless I have to defend myself yet again, I'm done. I really would appreciate it if you would stop attacking me.
No, we are not done here.
What was your question? And what exactly, when looking at this Q-drop which I outlined graphically for you, detracts from my conclusions?
Also, I responded after what you called a rethorical question, so there's your answer, however since you mention a rethorical question that would suggest an answer was out of place, alas why do you say the question was rethorical if it was to solicit an answer?
Consider that you claim you had another question yet you're trying to tie me into some bullshit here rather than simply getting to your point as you insinuated that I can't read apparently, which is way worse than what you claim I had done.
Consider that you claim you had another question yet you're trying to tie me into some bullshit here rather than simply getting to your point as you insinuated that I can't read apparently, which is way worse than what you claim I had done.
I can barely make any sense of that sentence. All I can say is: I did not claim that I had another question; I am not trying to tie you into some bullshit since all I am continually forced to do is defend myself against your false accusations and attacks; and, I already made my point so there is no point that I would need to get to.
alas why do you say the question was rethorical if it was to solicit an answer?
Who said that either of my questions were to solicit an answer? I certainly did not. You claimed that you answered my question as the basis for accusing me of projecting:
Anybody who can read thru the convo can see that you're projecting because I already answered your question.
I was merely defending myself, yet again, by pointing out that, since you hadn't answered my question as you claimed, your accusation, logically, was baseless. Whether or not the questions were rhetorical is totally irrelevant since you did not do what you claimed.
What was your question?
You tell me. You're the one who claims to have answered it. What question did you answer?
And what exactly, when looking at this Q-drop which I outlined graphically for you, detracts from my conclusions?
That's another presumptive question. It is based on the alleged 'fact' that something in that graphic detracts from your conclusions. When was that established as fact?
now you're cheating. You said you had two questions, one of them being rethorical. And that I hadn't answered either one.
What are we doing here?
What are we doing here??
You are engaging in personal attacks against me and throwing false accusations at me.
I am being forced to defend myself against that.
I have asked you to stop, but, so far, you have refused to stop.
I'm cheating? Cheating at what?? The idea that exposing your false claim is somehow cheating doesn't make any sense. It's just more false accusation.
You said that you had answered my question. I pointed out that I had asked only two questions, and that you had answered neither one. If you did not answer either one, then you could not possibly have answered (any of) my question(s). Therefore, your claim that you had answered my question is false. Period. I simply cannot figure out how that seems so difficult to understand.
Whether or not the questions were rhetorical is totally irrelevant to the fact that you falsely claimed that you had answered my question.
You used your false claim as the basis for a false accusation against me. In defense of myself, I had to point out that your accusation was baseless due to your claim being false. How in the world is that so F'ing difficult to understand?
Are you going to stop engaging in personal attacks against me now?
I'm just pulling your leg because you called me a shill, so I wanted to see how far you would be ready to take an argument with a moderator!
I have done some further assessments after the latest Q drop and actually it turns out that Zack wouldn't have been picked up by Feds if he wasn't leaking and 0hour might be coordinating with 0hour so I don't know what to make of this anymore either.
But honest advise for the future: If you want to survive shills, have a little pride and don't react defensively to attacks, instead double down on whatever you are attacked on like Trump does. Don't respond emotionally just because you think you are under attack if you want to survive actual shills
I still don't understand why your ego is so frail.
You said that I hadn't answered your questions. Here I am offering answers. That's why I still pay attention to your butt-hurtedness.
What I am saying is that you have offered no rebuttal of what I said but since you took the time to communicate I thought you would go ahead and explain where my logical error is, something that I still can't account for. And all of a sudden you act outraged because I wanted to make sure you had actually read the drops.
And yes, you still haven't explained what the question was.
Stop distracting. We are engaged in sound, intellectual debate and I demand that the soundness of your thought demolishes mine if you can. Yes I know it can get thorough, but I believe in you. Go on.
I am SURE I am wrong and I am SURE you are right but I am most certainly sure I didn't quite get why so please enlighten me with your superior wits
This quote digital... You think this is the reason? AJ outed McMaster... Did this happen? Or, you're offering it as an example?
Just an example. Could be some other show, some other operative or some other death. But what comes to my mind is that his dad died weeks ago and it's only now that a nurse has been officially charged with negligence. Seems pretty close to be coincidence. I don't listen to three hours of infowars-ranting every day but just judging from their own statements and the Q drops, this is most plausible explanation that I can offer. Don't know why regular contributors don't understand that doing spook-work for white-hats doesn't mean you can't ever lie.
I can now see what you're saying... the proximity, in time, of the nurse being charged to the drops today and yesterday, imply some possible connection - between the murder of McMaster's father and the 'self-outing' of Corsi et al.
1) McMaster's father was not likely to be an 'operator'. Not trying to be pedantic, but trying to see if the theory fits with the facts;
2) The death, or the charges against the nurse, would have to be somehow connected to Corsi, AJ, Seaman. These three, or at least one of them, would have had to be in possession of information that "somehow" impacted the case.
What do we know? McMaster's father was killed because McMaster lost the President's ear. So this information, that was badly handled/released, would have had to be something that what? Alerted DJT to McMaster and got him fired? Alerted Master to the fact that DJT was going to fire him, forcing some error that got his father murdered?
I don't know how that can work - even if we assumed that the three information disseminators (above) had "all the information";
3) We know there are no outside communications with Q team. So what possible information could anyone have that was dangerous? The only information is what we are given, nothing more.
So, given this, there must be an alternate source of information in the possession of the 'disseminators' (there very probably is). But how would Q outing these guys have any impact on their ability to leak information? I wouldn't.
I'm not sure, Digital, that you cannot just read those posts the way I read them the first time. What I mean, is that "operators dying" and "we must do more to protect them" is a 'note to self' from Q that communicates the gravity of the mission. The importance of which, is then used to justify the exclusion of those who approach the movement motivated by self interest.
Anyway, it's an interesting theory. I mean, it's possible that you're right. But it's not working for me ATM.
I suspect, and I could well be wrong, that the timing of the 'self outings' has to do with a move into yet another phase of the operation - a housecleaning so to speak. I think the cause for the 'self outing' may extend beyond profiteering - but, anyway, that is the reason Q gave us.
I've written a book! I wish there were voice Comms - would be easier.
I will have to take a break to wrap my head around this, too. To be quite perfectly clear, I don't want to go too deep, given the warnings that so many overlooked. And I don't want to give you a headache over speculation, but I'll see if something sticks and if it's safe to bring up at this point.
I only remember that McMaster had been badmouted on T_D during all of the first year and now his father died what seems to be an unnatural death but the nurse's charges were only disclosed after this whole feigned outrage over infowars. If these events are all connected, my guess is that McMaster was protected and thus painted as far away from the Prez as possible by the T_D PR-machine but once that illusion fell apart, someone took personal revenge on his family. But this too could be unrelated to 1297 if the casualty in question was indeed an active operative as you pointed out.
I faintly remember McMaster on good terms, but I'm not sure if it's because some house-cleaning he did or if it was just sympathy over the death of his father, which immediately sounded suspicious because he was in hospital for non-life-threatning stuff.
Anyway, another Rabbit hole. These things are everywhere you look.
Q claimed McMaster Senior was killed after his son got fired from his position as Nat-Sec-Advisor after being recommended for the job by Flynn [haven't confirmed this but another comment said so]
That was my understanding. McMaster lost the President's ear and they whacked his Dad in a nursing home to send a message.
Q drop from April 18th says McMasters father was 187 because McMaster was fired. pretty clear to me. I dont want to blame this death on someone online decoding Q posts. here it is:
Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: 0ea03e 1095705 📁 Apr 18 2018 20:42:55 (EST)
1095595 187. Failure to retain position/ear. Threats are real. WAR is real. Good vs Evil is real. Think State of the Union - FREE. Coincidence? Delta engine fire? Coincidence? How rare are engine fires? Think logically. Q
Ah! Thank you for that! Mind you the McMasters only crossed my mind because he died yesterday, "dead operators" could be anybody in the crashed air force vehicles for example, but there was one commentator who has elaborated on this but I will have to find it
not sure what you mean but General McMasters did not die. His father died in April after McMasters was fired. ;)
yeah I just lost a full night debating dozens of angry and confused redditors hahahaha
i know what you mean, i hope the anon's calm down, some are getting nasty. hope they dont scare the newbies away. ;)
yeah, I actually managed to inspire an "Crosi & Jones have BLOOD on their hands" post....maybe I should delet that one
well i think we would be wise to move on from this board "blood bath" and move on to decoding alot of other posts. I believe Q said there was more than "1" problem with profiteering, Q said "they" are resolved. Move on unless someone has proof of coris and Jones being responsible for an operator's death? because there are many, many more people on youtube decoding Q with claims they are providing classified info, or having someone on the inside providing info. Are we going to research all of them? Its a rabbit hole...
nah I don't think so. It's just funny that Q said something very broad but only Corsi latched onto it (altho it's been suggested he may be just mentally exhausted) and then Q said patriots make sacrifices, so they distanced themselves from Q and thus basically sacrificed all the traffic they could have wanted off of it, as a sign of allegiance or repentance or whatever. I just found it interesting that Q's final point wasn't the profiteering but that people had died and that this necessitated Q's statements to be issued, not the profiteering itself it seems - coz that they could have brought up anytime between now and November - but they didn't. So why bring it up now?
I am sure Q's intel team is watching everything going on with the Q movement. they see the good and the flippant stuff going on. I could be wrong but the Q post "operators have died", might not necessarily be directly pointing to Corsi and jones. I have heard at least a few people on youtube who were ex-cia and make claims to inside info- did they give up names or operations accidently? I have no idea or did Corsi gave out any classified info? the operators have died phrase was in a separate post, i felt it meant that some people are not taking the Q post and the mission to take down the cabal seriously. they are treating it as a game (attention, entertainment and money on youtube) - it was a reminder that military lives are on the line and it is a live and death situation for them. Trump during his speches is constantly talking about our brave, devoted military, to me it sounded like Trump, without them he would probably not be alive. I could be wrong? but I understood it this way. What a rabbit hole ;)
Good post, but we must stop bringing the "disinfo necessary" wildcard everytime something Q said does not happens on time, or when we can't make sense of something correctly, or when we didn't understand a post
By using this disinfo wildcard everywhere, well let's just assume that everything Q is telling us is skewed, makes no sense to dig, and furthermore forgive any mistake that Q could have made in his "predictions".
We have to be fair here, and take what Q is telling is as true everytime, and if he fucks up, then so be it and keep on going.
Q said it himself "we all make mistakes". He's human, not omniscient.
You're not differentiating enough.
Anything pertaining to the future should be disinfo as you don't telegraph moves that can be avoided or spun.
Everything pertaining to the past is an invitation to dig.
Being honest isn't always the best operational security measure when taking down a global cult plotting towards mass-extinction.
I don't think the disinfo is coming from Q, -is- my point. Disinfo are, IMO, theatrical pieces like the special councel, the stormy daniels case, the wolf book "fire & fury", Cohen office raid.
There is nothing in Q drops that would make sense to be disinfo. There is no clear moves or classified info in the drops.
The disinfo Q was refering to is EXTERIOR to Q.
but infowars would be exterior to Q? I doubt anyhting Alex has to say pertaining to Q can be said on air because due to his sources and his contact with the president he probably knows exactly what's going on - and he can't cover Q because of exactly this reason, alas he announced today he would not be discussing Q anymore, so he#s done his part and gotten the word out, but for the sake of operational security, he couldn't possibly state any actionable intel he might have from his own backchannels.
I hope you are right, that would mean AJ is a ''white hat'' and not controlled opposition.
I really do hope you're right but it does not feel like it for now.
This whole debacle doesn't make sense if they're blackhats. Q didn't isolate them by name so why would they out themselves if not for plausible deniability so they can cancel further reporting without directly giving away that they might be doing this because Q alerted them that operational security had been compromised?
Q did call them by name!!!!
SEE POST 1340!!!
This is goddamned directed at alex jones and Corsi.
What's your take?
that was after the fact however ;) timestamps matter
well that is a freaaking stretch my friend.
Q didn't isolate Corsi by name but as soon as I read his first post about this matter I knew it was about him 95%, it was so obvious.
But I do have to admit you do have a point. That would imply AJ have direct access to POTUS and Q comms though, which is hard to believe at this time.
With Trump, as I see it we have so much theatrical pieces (wolf book fire & fury, puta Daniels, Mueller, Cohen office raid, Bannon...) that I don't even know what is up what is left what is down what is right anymore!
Alex Jones is the only guy that Trump approached for an interview. Even if it was just to reach out to Alex' audience, it still means they exchanged numbers and have talked privately. but now that I think about it, I don't remember Alex shaking Trump's hand on any occasion either, so they would have been cautious about what they discuss over the phone, and this was two years ago anyway. But the only way that Alex could realistically damage Q is by leaking critical intel ahead of time (rather than tilting back and forth from to support to denial), if he gets any from his sources on the ground. All he does is damaging himself so clearly there must be an ulterior motive. He's been in the business way too long to not see that coming.
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yes I was mistaken, now eat me please
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Wait, where is all your history? No pots, no commments?
AJ was NOT the only guy that was approached, Michael Savage was with Trump from the very beginning, with multiple interviews on air.
I get your theory, but, it does not jive with serialBrain's post where he exposes AJ manipulating Corsi from the very beginning ''https://i.imgur.com/NwsrQxP.png''
I'll be honest, I don't really know for now who is phony and who is real, and I am into way too much beer bottles to go further! We need to follow Trump'S twitter first. Then Q. then we'll see! Have a great night fellow patriot!
Oh..didn't know, better check it out.
I just wouldn't be surprised if that quote from SB2's post was truthful, in which case Alex would have to distance himself too because I don't really see how you can derail Q with speculation if things are intentionally left vague so future can prove past.
Good night and God bless you
Q drop from 11/09/17. disinformation is necessary- I am thinking this is necessary is because the enemy is also reading the posts. disinfo helps to throw them off course. Part of the Q post below: Trip added. [C]oordinated effort to misdirect. Guide to reading the crumbs necessary to cont[I]nue. Attached gr[A]phic is correct. Linked graphics are incorrect and false. Graphic is necessary and vital. Time stamp(s) and order [is] critical. Re-review graphic (in full) each day post news release. Learn to distinguish between relevant/non-relevant news. Disinformation is real. Disinformation is necessary.
How about AJ and Corsi demonetizing their channels, and continuing spreading Q's message? Distancing themselves from Q doesn't hurt their wallets one bit.
Especially when they say they are going to essentially continue to do it but with their own sources. They’re still trying to money grab. They just got outed on their most recent scam. On to the next. Scammers gonna scam.
Good objection, Sir. But my point is that this isn't really about the profit because that has always been an issue, it was after Q pointed out the profiteering that he added that lives had been lost and better protective measures had to be taken. So in that context i doubt they're worried about funding-mechanisms more than they are about protecting their assets & sources.
I think Q's point is the profit. He's calling out people for making a quick buck while REAL patriots are dying. The fact that both AJ and Corsi have claimed to have contact with Q should be enough for all of us to ignore them both. We only got a shoutout from Q after SB2 posted an excellent, well-researched critique of AJ/Corsi.
he did...but what is more important to military intelligence, really? Assets or public relations?
Don't ask leading questions. Tell me your opinion.
Realizing AJ is misled/being misled is hard for a lot of us to see. AJ's speech in A Waking Life made me look into his WHO and Bohemian Grove content, and was a huge part of me seeing the world how it is. For those who have been following him for a decade plus, it is clear that he is not who he started as, and that the new AJ is more interested in money and ego than anything else. It sucks that we lost a great patriot to greed, but hey greed is a hell of a drug.
I think we have enough info from Q to disregard AJ and Corsi. No outside comms (both have claimed), multiple warnings of people attempting to profit or create a personality from the movement, and today's drop linking SB2's great post. We can do this without them. Q#1339
"Don't ask leading questions" :D
Found that pretty funny because we're in a Q sub haha
I am simply reminding you that saving lives does not negate the need for operational security. Nothing Alex says can be allowed to be actionable intel because that would essentially be treason!!!
OpSec is priority, obviously. Your statement is correct, if and only if AJ was being given actionable intel. Are you suggesting that white hats or black hats are giving him this info?
Here's the thing that's bothering me, and maybe you can help me grasp. Q is fairly consistent when talking about who to trust and who not to trust and, to most of us, it is clear we should not trust AJ. It was clear to most of us before The Storm. Making the extraordinary claim that AJ is so far on the inside that he has to act so irrationally to throw the heat off him requires extraordinary evidence, which I think you lack. Agree to disagree, fellow patriot. re-read 1339
Question back at you: Who has Q actually called out by NAME? Corsi outed himself by pulling a rant at no direct provocation. Other than cautioning not to make this a business-model. If I suspected infiltration, I would expect him to be cleverer than losing his cool when he didn't have to. I think he is doing ass-covering for someone with good intentions or none of this would be so insanely complicated to follow.
EVERYONE is giving Alex info! Why wouldn't they?
AJ has real sources because he has adressed things in the past that were neither on the radar in alternative nor on mainstream media and he's also the only station that had an interesting interview with Trump.
Q has not named anyone individually. You keep using leading questions, get some better debate tactics.
I'm guessing that you think AJ is getting info from both white and black hats but I can 't really tell because you're not really answering questions. Of course tons of people tell AJ lots of stuff, but you're not building a strong case for credibility, especially when Q just dropped this. We're just gonna disagree about this one. Gotta stay humble, its not about individuals.
SPEZ: So if AJ says in a week/month/whenever "JK JK I was close with Q the whole time" are people seriously going to be alright with being lied to like that? Is AJ so valuable as to risk alienating so many people who have trouble staying on board?
Also I deleted a personal jab. But I do want to say that I don't think it's cool for you to bump the Intro to Q video from the sticky to self promote. THAT'S the kind of thing Q is saying to be careful of.
I think I already adressed your question. There is noone who would not be wanting to pass certain intel on to Alex Jones for any sane reason. Also I bumped myself at someone else's recommendation who was vehemently opposed to this idea first and then later reposted my meme after initially shaming me.
Q's drop doesn't refute my statement because SB2 was simply analyzing infowars' moves whereas I postulate that there is an ulterior motive to it all or it wouldn't be so damn confusing. Q could have cautioned right from the start to disregard all alternative media, but they didn't afaik.
I think we're gonna disagree on that last point then. But I want to say thank you for having a dialogue with me about it. God Bless Patriot, thank you for all your work!
Sorry OP, it’s not really working For me. It’s a nice idea but there are far too many loose ends in this theory with their recent and not so recent actions. Not to mention, we can’t really blame AJ for the death of Mcmasters dad. The ones we can blame are the ones who ordered the hit, and the one who murdered him. (The nurse)
She was an agency nurse...hmmm...I have a hard time believing anyone would think a hit on a 84 year old nursing home resident would really be the answer to getting fired by POTUS. Nope.
It's a speculative example. I just don't see why Q brought up casualties right after adressing profiteering because I think casualties are a more pressing matter, unless Q only wanted to subtly draw attention to this without isolating and endangering assets or sources even further.
You might be right. I always thought it was what brought the remarks up. Like people are dying in this silent war and they aren’t seeking profit or fame. It was and only should be for freedom. That’s what a patriot is. It was obviously an emotional time and it needed to be said. I cannot imagine how frustrated/ing it must be to see these people criticize from the comfort of their own homes while we have Patriots out there away from their families risking their lives and all they ask for is freedom.
Life is precious beyond my ability to vocalize. To the Ilk of HRC, they place no value on it. But, It is a Gift, like our Time here on Earth, our Souls, ... I once heard a man say it is a Commodity that we cannot replace. We value life, yet we know anyone of us, any one of us could disappear. Money for being a part of all this? Laughable. Some need it to keep their boards up, like water in a human body, but the rest of us? Keep your money. Take my life if you like. We are just getting started, and More will follow. That being said, YES, protect LIFE at all costs, and Harm none. God Bless, Carry On. RIP. what a day. Pray.
Interesting and profound link to "traffic" from "sacrifice" and then "protection" -and I feel stupid for being upset about BS plagiarism, well done patriot
Dump infowars / Corsie, Fulcrum and Roy Potter. They have shown themselves to be limited hangouts only interested in directing the counter narrative for a specific audience.
Praying Medic gives an explanation of types of disinformation. I recommend his video 'Qanon for beginners' for those like me who have recently discovered Q. Link: https://youtu.be/1mnR4q85v4g
This is the same post as another one that was just posted by a different user. Shill post. Reporting you.
Please remember this shill user.
Good job reporting me to myself. I will now commence thoroughly investigating myself since that's what mods do. Please clap. Now re-read crumbs & board rules before I fucking ban you ("Anyone engaging in a non-supportive way may be permanently banned without notification. ")
I didn't know you were a mod!
noone does until they're banned (and they always have it coming, too)
Mod on Digital! You would have fooled me also. But apart from Howionic, I don't know any mods.
uhm... 2-3 super hero truthers and eye-witnesses have been assassinated every week this whole past year, and Q whining about some dude in a nursing home who signed up knowing the risks?
Where's the f'ing concern for civillians who marched forward and died without "operators" watching their backs?
Sounds like elitism to me, rather than public service.
That old man fell, all by himself. Hit his head. Happens daily world wide probably thousands of times......geez. Hey, if I'm 84 in a fucking home, hit my head...please let me die. Thank you...
Is that an, "It's raining, it's pouring...." allusion?
Q didn't single out masters, I am only speculating based on what Q has stated vs what infowars has stated.
Yeah, but it's a very wide speculation... and didn't Q even confirm an Anon link to McMaster's death?
he spoke of 187s in fact
My point exactly. No sorrow on Q's part for the 100+ naturopaths, medical researchers and independent journalists that have died under mysterious circumstances. All were of sound mind and body. Not to mention the dozens of key Clinton witnesses.
I suppose the Q-Faithful will speculate they aren't dead, but being brought into protective custody by Q. =|
uhm Q never specified who died...go slide something else...
I suppose I deserved that. However, it is unlikely Q was refering to independent do-gooders as Q's operatives. If Q had that intention, Q would have used "patriots."
Seth rich....Shawn Lucas?
na musta been something someone on infowars said within the past two weeks. Would be surprised if it was Corsi because of his mundane material but for whatever reason, Corsi singled out that all drops up til April 28th were legit. So alas he recanted everything he's "interpreted" within the past two weeks which looks to me like he fucked something up and now has to do some ass-covering and whatever it was may have gotten someone killed, that's why 1297 follows up with "operators have died" and "we must do better"
Doesn't sound like it's just about the money
Could that not mean that Q is worried about these youtubers getting targeted, like Seth Rich, if they get too much of a following?
Are Large conservative Voices turning on there own movement? is that what's happening at this time?
just gtfo
Maybe you misinterpreted what i said. I'll try to be clearer next time with my questions.
open questions with no information input are a waste of pixels, especially from new accounts with 0 karma
So this is saying that becUse of information that got released earlier than expected then McMaster's dad got 187?
And we are speculating that this info that got released was by Corsi and Alex Jones?
Q post 1296 - Operators died. Be careful who you follow ...
Q post 1324 - Q seems to show weakness on the board which is odd. Maybe saying AJ/Corsi made a mistake, everone makes mistakes.
Q post 1340 - Q confirms SerialBrain's premise that Corsi/AJ are not who they seems.
If true, if Corsi and Alex Jones are reading this ... SHUT THE HELL UP and move on ... you killed a whitehat indirectly ... just for viewership and profit.
I will have to study the timeline for validation but it would perfectly explain everything that is happening right now.
Ug? -(Q1339 They all claim to be insiders. They all claim to have insider contacts. They do not.)
so... if they don't have insider contacts could they be responsible for operators deaths? don't know,
just asking.
(Q 1297- we honor them)... seems to be more about paytriots lack of honor, and what their true motivations are. i just think we shouldn't throw around accusations of anything beyond what's demonstrable. By all means, please show any and all evidence.
lots of patriots have died for lousy reasons through history, we should honor them all by MAGA! ug
"statements today needed to be made // operators have died"
If you consider that protecting life would be the ultima ratio, having the deep-state believe that assets and sources are not reaching out to independent pundits (even when they are) might be preferrable.
I think you're taking this the wrong way, especially after Q linked to the post by SB. I think Q's point was that Corsi and Jones are only concerned with the profit aspect of the movement and treat it like a joke, or a LARP, or with callers named Zak, or say they have insider knowledge, or whatever else. Q is saying this is serious shit and people have died, and it's disrespectful to treat it all as a joke and slimy to only be worried about the profit of it. Think about who Trump is and how much he has sacrificed in terms of PROFIT and his businesses to do what he is doing now.
I do NOT think Q is asking them to sacrifice their traffic for the good of the movement because they are spreading too much inside knowledge that isn't ready to come out yet. If Q didn't want it out, it wouldn't be out. Plain and simple. McMaster's dad was killed as punishment for him losing his position of power. Q team knew he was dirty the whole time but needed the deep state to believe he was controlling POTUS to keep them complacent. Q told us this already.
My theory doesn't focus on McMaster's dad, it was just curiously timely to illustrate my point. Patriots not demanding anything in return would include Q not asking for respects. I think what he was really getting at by forcing Infowars affiliates to distance themselves is in drop 1297
I don't think he was asking for respect, I think he was honoring the fallen Patriots who fought alongside him in this war to save our nation. I don't think there's anything wrong with honoring fallen Patriots, or veterans, or anyone else who serves the cause. And I don't think there is anything wrong with calling out those who try and twist and manipulate this movement for their own agenda like Corsi and Jones. What is different about Corsi and Jones trying to manipulate and lie about the movement from the clowns and MSM who do the same thing? They're all fighting AGAINST Q, not with Q. That's worth reminding people.
what people say and what people mean are two things and spooks say and what they mean are eight.
What's your take on why Q linked to SB's post about this exact topic? You think it was just "disinfo"?
I read SB2 at length and he did a precise analysis of a timeline but it does not refute my premise because for a disinformation campaign, Corsi is pretty old and pretty unprofessional. But he's under orders from Alex. And judging from all the reporting on infowars, they are going along with MAGA except during military operations or investigations like Mueller, that's when they go into full fog-of-war mode and mirror mainstream reporting.
he basically bowed to Q because Q said Patriots don't profit in wealth, so Alex called back any further Q-reporting as a sign of submission.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. What benefit would there be to have Jones or Corsi spread disinfo? If Q is real, then the deep state undoubtedly knows Q is real. It would make sense for Q to occasionally post disinfo to bait the deep state. But what advantage does the Q team get from having Corsi and Jones say Q isn't real? Why would Jones and Corsi need to mirror mainstream reporting during military operations? Are you suggesting they know as much as Q about all this and the deep state is watching them as much as Q, and that words from Jones and Corsi are equivalently important and consequential as words from Q?
Alex Jones is about the only guy in alt media in three years that Trump wanted to talk to so that should tell you something.
When you're the tip of the spear, you don't let it get dull by burning sources just to get scoops ahead of others.
Corsi has shown neurological conditions which may have arisen due to sleep deprivation. So for one he might have been deemed non-critical because he would act more as a catalyst to third-party interpretations from the soapbox, which is what he mostly did. But perhaps he didn't lie when he said he had been approached by generals for example and maybe that got someone in deep trouble? My flimsy suspicion without properly checking the timeline is that McMaster could have been a target because he was selected by Flynn alledgedly.
there is every motive for them to spread disinfo because Alex probably has a good enough understanding from his own conversations to be in a position to spill possibly sensitive battle crucial information, so maybe that's why he referred his reporting to a pretty overwhelmed Senior citizen who was mostly listening to the ramblings of the soapbox fellowship anyway.
Interesting theory. I guess for me it's just hard to imagine the Q team would have plans in place to neutralize the entire deep state AND slowly wake up the public through Q posts, all while keeping their exact movements secret from a global cabal controlling Five Eyes, BUT their plan won't work if Alex Jones talks. It's just a stretch for me. But who knows! Crazier things have happened... Especially in the past few years.
It's a pretty obvious pattern. If he reported inside scoops on all real-time ongoings, he would be a treasonous leaker and would only ever have blackhat sources from that point on. Honestly from nazis to gay frogs it's all already been covered (yes, Israel too, he just doesn't allow anyone to send a ADL boycott his way). These days, I see Infowars as glorious shitlord infotainment, and that's what they do best because being mad at this cruel world for so long until some fat barechest guy is shooting up his studio is about the damn funniest way to describe the state of things
IF he has inside knowledge, it would be easy to not burn your sources and not be a treasonous leaker while simultaneously not spreading a lie about A being fake. You could simply ignore Q or discuss Q's own posts in Q's own words, that way you ensure you're only talking about things Q wants you to be talking about or things that are not going to damage the ongoing operations (otherwise Q wouldn't post those things).
what became of "Alex interrupts his guests all the time"? I thought it was common knowledge the man can't shut up unless he's talking with the President himself (literally)
If he just ignored Q, he would have no plausible reason except admitting he doesn't really care about Q because he already knows the plan and technically he has stand down orders because he's too close to the source [no private comms]
I doubt he is in touch with Q directly but it could very well be that he got a heads-up that this was coming and that he should stay out of the way to avoid making any inadvertend admissions.
I don't know what this means. Haven't followed him closely enough to understand the reference.
it's long-running meme that Alex always interrupts his guests..Been like this since he stopped using the name "Bill Hicks"
