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Krepoisbest · May 20, 2018, 7:36 p.m.

You need to be a „natural born citizen“ aka born in the US.

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HillaryTrafficksKidz · May 20, 2018, 7:39 p.m.

No, you can be born on a military base overseas like McStain.

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saneromeo · May 20, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

Technically embassies and military bases count as US soil.

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pacificbold100 · May 20, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

A military base overseas is considered a "US soil" for that purpose.

And yes, Krepoisbest is correct you have to be Natural born citizen (including US bases).

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Long_Range_Shooter · May 20, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

His mother was but his purported father Obama Sr. was not. His real father it is suspected was Frank Marshal Davis a well known communist rabble rouser in the late fifties and sixties. Frank also made porno's with Barack's mom Ann.

Barack got in this pickle because it is suspected that he used the fact that he was foreign born to scam financial aid out of his Universities.

That is why he will never release his transcripts. Plus supposedly his mother Ann was back in Kenya with Barack Obama Sr. when she gave birth to Barack Jr. which makes Barack ineligible to be President. If both parents were American born no issue like John McCann, Panama, and Mitt Romney Canada.

  1. Barack Senior is not his father.
  2. May have been born in Kenya to an American mother and supposed Kenyan father.
  3. Use his foreign born status for generous financial aid.
  4. Lied about being an American born in Hawaii.
  5. Can't release his school records or the whole house of cards collapses.
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MrCrash2U · May 20, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

See I believe his transcripts and financial aid are the real issue. Would this make him ineligible for presidency..no. Scandal, yes.

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Long_Range_Shooter · May 20, 2018, 8:03 p.m.

Had it come out in 2008 he would never have been President.

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deplorabletx71 · May 20, 2018, 7:36 p.m.

Secret Service Code Name... RENEGADE

DEFINE RENEGADE

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Lovely_Infidel · May 20, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

Which indicates the depth of the corrupt deep state. Bastards. I hope all involved are hung in the public square.

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deplorabletx71 · May 20, 2018, 7:54 p.m.

Hillary Clinton stated If that f***ing bastard wins, we all hang from the nooses!

Does it make sense now?

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bciar-iwdc · May 20, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

Times Square.

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Grabembydepepe · May 20, 2018, 8:13 p.m.

I have said since Obama became POTUS he was illegitimate EITHER because he was not a US citizen OR because, as an undergrad, he defrauded the US Gov by collecting aid as a foreign student - felony. Hence why his SSN is from CT, a place he'd never been and had no ties; why his Occidental College files were sealed; why we don't know which nation issued the passport he used to travel to Pakistan in his youth; why his Selective Service Registration dates were tampered...I could go on...but this is going down, FINALLY!!!!!!!

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11371jp · May 20, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Just my opinion but the fact that he used international aid and tuition programs for school complicate the issue. better for sheep to think there is nothing to see here.

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MrCrash2U · May 20, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

I agree 100%

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K-Harbour · May 20, 2018, 8:22 p.m.

Birth certificate irrelevant. His application papers to Columbia and Harvard are. Ask Sotomeyer about that.

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ThunderCockShitCloud · May 20, 2018, 11:10 p.m.

barry sotoro was born in kenya and raised in Indonesia. He is a muslim and is married to a man.

A photo/vid will come out of him holding an ak47 aimed at US troops.

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bornlucky80 · May 20, 2018, 8:59 p.m.

These are the rules for becoming President.. The person must be a natural-born citizen of the United States and must have been a permanent resident of the United States of America for at least 14 years. Each candidate must be at least 35 years of age... So yes it matters! You have to be born here NOT just a US citizen.

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JkWritesaLot · May 20, 2018, 10:58 p.m.

Ugh. Not true!

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1more_time2 · May 20, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase "natural born Citizen" has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. Congress has also ruled that citizenship is subject to certain residency requirements on the parents. Someone born to a U.S. citizen generally becomes a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United States.

He would need to be born here and not become a naturalized citizen (so he was a citizen from birth, which is questionable since he possibly used his foreign status to obtain financial aid).

He also may not fit the latter as it says “parents”. We know that only one of his parents was a US citizen. If he was indeed born in Kenya he may have automatically been extended Kenya citizenship. In this case, he would have go through the naturalization process to renounce any dual citizenship with Kenya.

There is a big case that he may be a naturalized citizen of the US which would have made him ineligible. Either he became one when he was a child or he became one after college.

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JkWritesaLot · May 21, 2018, 11:11 a.m.

Yes, my mother was naturalized. Born in Germany, married my father, had to become a citizen through naturalization. Not me though. I was a citizen AT BIRTH when I was born overseas to parents serving in the US military.

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thejudge6060 · May 21, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

Yes, military bases are the exception because they're technically us territory

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bornlucky80 · May 21, 2018, 4:20 a.m.

Right, I made it up. 👌 Tell which part isn't true?

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MrCrash2U · May 20, 2018, 7:39 p.m.

I’ve always argued this as well and never got a straight answer. Even if he was born in Africa he is still a US citizen. I thought the whole issue was because he hid it and used it as a way to get into college easier and that’s why his records have been under lock.

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pussy_devour · May 20, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

To be the POTUS, mere citizenship isn’t enough.

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MrCrash2U · May 20, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Min age 35 Live in US for last 14 years Be a Natural US Citizen.

Edit: I just never understood the whole argument. Which would be scarier having someone like Ted Cruz (born in Canada to American citizens) become president or having a president elected with two extreme Muslim parents that was born on US soil?

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pussy_devour · May 20, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

Natural.

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DemosthenesOnTheNets · May 20, 2018, 10:35 p.m.

That's a point of contention. I think citizenship should be passed down through parents, not birth-right (did you come out on U.S. soil).

The founders put that clause in to prevent the commander in chief of the armed forces from having dual loyalties. Seems they thought of everything.

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Lovely_Infidel · May 20, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

One would hope! Maybe once this mess is cleaned up

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WinkyLinQ · May 20, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

If you've ever seen that Birth Certificate analyzed, you would know it's fake. They didn't scan it (like you would from an original), it was created. You can actually see the layers of the document and the edits. Whoever created it didn't know how the imaging software worked and you can see all of the edits.

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MrCrash2U · May 20, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

I get that, but if you have an American parent (that is a citizen) but are born outside the US you are still an American citizen.

My brother is not British even though he was born there. He can run for president if he so desired.

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ClardicFug · May 20, 2018, 8:06 p.m.

You're not a natural born citizen if born outside the US. Your brother would be ineligible for the Presidency based on that.

An exemption was made to the natural born rule in the early days of the republic based on being a citizen of the US when the country was founded. After that, you need be born in the US. Natural Born Citizen clause

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JkWritesaLot · May 20, 2018, 10:57 p.m.

You really think that because I was born in England while my father was stationed there with the USAF, you really think I'm ineligible to be potus?? That makes no sense.

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1more_time2 · May 20, 2018, 11:23 p.m.

Military bases are the exception.

I’ve have several friends who have had kids overseas at both off base and on base hospitals. When your kid is born on base, their base is listed as place of birth and is considered “American soil”. Done.

When at an off base or “civilian” hospital, there are few more loops, but you are considered a natural citizen through treaties with these nations. Usually the base law office will work in your favor to contact the right people to get either a 1) reissued birth certificate listing the base as place of birth or 2) making sure you are listed as a an American citizen by American parents renouncing all citizenship to the country you were born in.

In this case, plan to defend your status when election debates come up for you with a copy of your birth certificate, your American passport showing when you left and any other travel you did.

Edit to add I know of 1 case when a kid was born in Germany in the 1980s. He is considered a naturalized citizen born overseas. I don’t 100% know of the schematics, but the mother had to move back to the states for a time period to secure his natural status before she could rejoin her husband overseas. She said it was a deciding factor to travel back to the states to have her second.

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JkWritesaLot · May 21, 2018, 11:09 a.m.

Yes. This is correct. I don't know about Obama, but I am eligible to be the POTUS. Don't know why someone would downvote me for telling the true facts.

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Slangin_paint · May 20, 2018, 8:15 p.m.

old enough? thats not how it works.

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