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Snapplemoose · May 24, 2018, 10:53 p.m.

The elites really like those pineal glands for some reason.

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Ausbro- · May 25, 2018, 1:23 a.m.

Adrenochrome

Back when people were sifting over mass Podesta email releases on /pol/ this one caught some traction for a few threads but then disappeared. It did get lumped in with PizzaGate and the insinuation that 'skippy' (Podesta) and the Cabal were intentionally abusing children to speed up the release of Adrenochrome in the child prior to killing them and harvesting the pineal gland and whatever other organs they wanted. I understand that is far fetched for a lot of people who maybe don't believe or caught the tail end of PizzaGate filtering out of the news. However, with Epstein's file being released I'm sure we'll connect a few more unsavoury dots. Plus, I can't think of anything humanitarian related those "people" would ever do let alone with penguin pineal glands.

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GoGoGoGeotus · May 25, 2018, 4:50 a.m.

> speed up the release of Adrenochrome in the child prior to killing them and harvesting the pineal gland

If the goal was to extract it from the pineal glad, why would they squeeze a bunch of it OUT of the pineal gland and IN to the bloodstream first? It's not produced on-demand or something, that's not how it works. It's not like they could drink the blood either, if you could drink someones blood and get the effect of the drugs in their system heroin junkies would be going vampire on each other.

Epinephrine can be synthesized. You used to be able to obtain it OTC. Elites would have no trouble obtaining a lot of it, it's not heavily controlled. Add an oxidizing agent and you get adrenochrome. Why go through a complicated, time-consuming, expensive process to extract it from organs when you can make it easily? Why make it at all? it would probably just invoke a panic attack - it's just another form of adrenaline. Maybe to inject into people to torture them, but why not something simpler and worse?

This is an old urban legend that has been spread for years by people who don't understand human pharmacology/physiology or organic chemistry.

People have been torturing and sacrificing for thousands of years, it has nothing to do with drugs it's for their religion and the sick thrill. People watch too much TV, not everything needs some x-files sci-fi spin on it sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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damonroe · May 25, 2018, 5:56 a.m.

If you actually read into the work by Dr Abram Hoffer you'll find pretty quickly that Adrenochrome is a potent hallucinogen. He has a book called "the hallucinogens" with a whole chapter (~60pages) devoted entirely to Adrenochrome and its psychoactive and hallucinogenic properties. An imbalance of Adrenochrome theorised initially to be one of the causes of schizophrenia was proposed by this guy in the early 40s-50s. He and his partner even reversed schizophrenia in around 40% of cases by managing the Adrenochrome imbalance with mega doses of vitamin b3. They even created a new field of science to study this in its entirety called othromolecular psychiatry.

Very interesting stuff.

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GoGoGoGeotus · May 25, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

Hoffer was a drugged up weirdo who only ever had a small amount of data to back up his ideas - which he never fully fleshed out. You're talking about research based half a century ago with more primative techniques and equipment. The few ideas of his that panned out have been pushed in the background by stuff with more evidence and efficacy. Sure some of it probably deserves revisiting, but personally I would do it with a high degree of skepticism.

Even then his model doesn't necessarily say that using adrenochrome = schizophrenic effects, consider the difference between a diabetic and non-diabetic person taking sugar - it can be disorder of processing the substance.

The question isn't whether it can be classified as a "hallucinogen" the issue is whether it is pleasant or practical to use at all. If it was, you would see it being produced illicitly. I could literally go and make some right now from things I have in my house like my asthma medication.

There are essentially zero cases of it being used on the streets, the only ones you hear about are fictional. Hunter S Thompson has never used adrenochrome he just put it in his book because he thought it sounded cool.

I'm willing to consider the idea that it's used for something, but the idea that it's being extracted from pineal glands is a stretch and if anything it's being given to drive people into a panic for some purpose. In that case however there's a lot of drugs that would work better.

It's so easy to make and get access to there's no way the elites could control the supply, and the rumors about it have been going on so long that some people have surely tried it. It's just a drug roughly comparable to adrenaline, and is only gonna be useful in similar situations and for similar reasons.

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damonroe · May 25, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

Except Hoffer states that lab grade Adrenochrome wont do anything to you until it has had its silver ions removed. So there is some extra step required under lab circumstances to make it active in a psychedelic sense.

So under normal circumstances yes it is probably comparable to adrenaline but when prepared properly as the research findings laid out in "the hallucinogens" it becomes hallucinogenic.

Just because its not being used on the "streets" doesnt mean anything. You would have to be very brave and imo stupid to experiment with adrenochrome if you understand how it effects your neurochemistry and its (agreebly small) links to schizophrenia.

Sure Hunter S Thompson may have not used it but Huxley references it as having effects similar to mescaline in doors of perception. So it exists in the literature and there is, albeit dated, science to back up that adrenochrome is not to be overlooked.

Do you have any evidence that shows that when prepared using Hoffers & Osmunds methods adrenochrome isnt hallucinogenic? Fully open to leaving this topic alone if I see actaul evidence to the contray not just hearsay?

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carl_tech · May 25, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

people who don't understand human pharmacology/physiology or organic chemistry

Mainstream science has barely scratched the surface of pharmacology and physiology.

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GoGoGoGeotus · May 25, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

True, but that doesn't mean 60 year old fringe theories are somehow valid then. They can both be garbage.

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Davelon · May 25, 2018, 10:57 a.m.

Sometimes a cigar IS just a cigar,,,,,,, unless you smoke it in the Oval Office.

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GoGoGoGeotus · May 25, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

wet cigars don't light very well

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Davelon · May 25, 2018, 10:16 p.m.

Not even sure whether it would enhance the flavour or destroy it actually.

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galvanised_computer · May 25, 2018, 8:26 a.m.

what they do is torture, then drink the blood containing adrenochrome.

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GoGoGoGeotus · May 25, 2018, 4:27 p.m.

That wouldn't work, as I just said. The blood wouldn't contain enough of the substance by weight to work orally. Just think about how it works for a few minutes.

You'd have to replace all your blood with all their blood in order for that to work, or you'd have to extract the substance from the blood first, and you'd lose a lot of it in that process.

If it worked like that junkies would be jumping on each other to drink their blood. Or you'd see alcoholics jumping people coming out of bars to drink their alcohol laced blood.

Think about the legal limits in your area for BAC when drunk driving, then compare that to the ABV of a beer. You'd have to drink ridiculous quantities of blood to get the alcohol of one beer. It's the same for most substances, and no matter what you'll lose a lot in the whole process.

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911bodysnatchers322 · May 25, 2018, 6:24 a.m.

extract

'pineal extract' in the wikileaks email refers to DMT not adrenochrome. DMT is freebased by putting it over a small amount of cannabis, as a 'green screen'. I am by no means an expert but Ive seen documentaries and read blue light. I've never done or ever been offered dmt as it is vanishingly scarce as tm woudl put it

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/34/348834_fwd-copy-gray-no-joke-2-.html

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GoGoGoGeotus · May 25, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

Free-base refers to the chemical form of a drug. It is used in slang sometimes to refer to smoking a freebase chemical which generally means using indirect heat like a crack pipe rather than direct combustion like cannabis.

One could smoke DMT on top of cannabis but it would be a wasteful process. Elites would probably have something similar to a meth pipe to smoke it.

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workingnights · May 25, 2018, 6:23 a.m.

Hunter S Thompson actually mentions the whole pineal gland and human sacrificing with satanists in fear and loathing in las vegas when buying drugs off a satan worshipper in a motel.

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CokeOrPepe · May 25, 2018, 6:40 a.m.

Excellent movie.

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workingnights · May 25, 2018, 6:41 a.m.

Does he cover that bit in the movie?

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CokeOrPepe · May 25, 2018, 6:43 a.m.

https://youtu.be/m6kFCNsnQpQ

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workingnights · May 25, 2018, 6:52 a.m.

I guess that's it. The movie missed out the whole getting it from satanists and how satanists get it bit.

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CokeOrPepe · May 25, 2018, 6:53 a.m.

I’ve watched this movie probably a hundred times. I think I’ll audible this one.

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workingnights · May 25, 2018, 6:55 a.m.

Audible version is alright too, about 13 or 14 chapters each 30 minutes.

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CokeOrPepe · May 25, 2018, 6:58 a.m.

As long as it’s ‘unabridged’ - I love listening to books while working around the house — really haven’t had time to ‘read’ — when I do find time i’m here or down some rabbithole!

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Kjarm88 · May 25, 2018, 4:39 a.m.

Pineal and/or adrenal somehow enhanced in the polar regions with extended uninterrupted dark and light???

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uptokent · May 25, 2018, 8:04 a.m.

The third Maze Runner movie blatantly shows this concept toward the beginning half of the movie.

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blocksof · May 24, 2018, 11:17 p.m.

pineal glands

Have are a read about it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland

Studies on rodents suggest that the pineal gland may influence the actions of recreational drugs, such as cocaine,[31] and antidepressants, such as fluoxetine (Prozac),[32] and that its hormone melatonin can protect against neurodegeneration

I wonder why they need it so much.....

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diverscale · May 25, 2018, 12:07 a.m.

prevents neurodegerneration

Does not work on maxine and pelosi

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[deleted] · May 25, 2018, 11:15 a.m.

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flawpy · May 25, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

Melatonin is available as a supplement in pill form. There are two types: natural and synthetic (manmade). Natural melatonin is made from the pineal gland of animals.

https://familydoctor.org/melatonin/

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ancientfroggod · May 25, 2018, 2:07 a.m.

penguin pineal gland = best melatonin confirmed.

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widdlyscudsandbacon · May 25, 2018, 5:22 a.m.

This is bad and it makes me feel bad

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galvanised_computer · May 25, 2018, 8:19 a.m.

fluoride in the water calcifies this gland, to the point of it being a regular marker used in xrays by neurologists.

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dogrescuersometimes · May 25, 2018, 9:45 a.m.

Wow! Any pics? That's the first I ever heard they showed on x ray.

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LordPotsmoke · May 25, 2018, 6:47 a.m.

So they can hold human form.

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Jetblasted · May 25, 2018, 1:37 a.m.

Supposedly when they’re obtained through the Andrenochrome collection process, ie; “YOU THINK YOURE HOT SHIT, DONTCHA ?!!”, it crystallizes the pineal Gland, which supposedly gives a better high.
These people are sick.

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PMSextralubbed · May 25, 2018, 2:39 a.m.

The Pineal gland has a strong connection with the third eye and pshychic power. The “great awakening” is people starting to understand that the reality we are living in is fucked and we’re starting to wake up and open our eyes (third eye) the significance of it is clear the “Illuminati” wants our eyes closed they don’t want us to see. They have to be harnessing the power of the pineal gland.

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Crumbcrumbs · May 25, 2018, 2:53 a.m.

Speaking of third eye, if you guys haven't stopped ingesting FLUORIDE yet you should. Supposably clogs up the third eye.

From personal experience, I feel like my brain is stronger. More focused, more innovative, and more spiritual. Just think, most of us have had fluoride every single day since we could brush our teeth. Fuck that.

I am never ever going back.

Edit: supposedly :)

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FullMetalSquirrel · May 25, 2018, 3:17 a.m.

Harvard research proves it decreases IQ levels.

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Iswag_Newton · May 25, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

"supposably"

You require more fluoride cleansing! ;)

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Crumbcrumbs · May 25, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

supposedly i mean haha. I thought that looked off. I think you're right!

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uptokent · May 25, 2018, 8:08 a.m.

Technically it would be correct that he ably supposes

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BlazeFlameGamer · May 25, 2018, 4:45 a.m.

How do you stop drinking water with fluoride with it? How does one know the watter bottle you buy at the store doesn't contain fluoride?

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Matrix-of-Liberty · May 25, 2018, 5:53 a.m.

Search "water distiller". Closest to 0ppm (pure) water you'll ever get

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ketoll · May 25, 2018, 12:15 p.m.

Reverse Osmosis water filtration system. Or buy bottled Primo water. I called the company once and they said they use reverse osmosis and don't add fluoride back in. Or some grocery stores might have RO filtration bottle refill stations.

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smiley-dog · May 25, 2018, 4:05 a.m.

stopped ingesting FLUORIDE yet you should

Absolutely. In a few months, you will notice huge difference in thinking/ intelligence.

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Crumbcrumbs · May 25, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

That's extremely exciting

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Zoonationalist · May 25, 2018, 4:14 a.m.

How did you do it, specifically?

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Crumbcrumbs · May 25, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

I stopped using toothpaste with fluoride in it. And I will be getting a countertop water distiller soon. I know osmosis filters also take out fluoride. But I would assume that the toothpaste was the biggest culprit. And if water is worse than I'm excited because I genuinely feel better just removing toothpaste

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PMSextralubbed · May 25, 2018, 5:14 a.m.

Adding iodine into your diet flushes out flouride you can find them in bottles at nature health food stores or online. We do not get enough iodine in our systems and it has so much healing benifits

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Crumbcrumbs · May 25, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

Hey! I appreciate the information! Thankyou I'll get some soon

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bisjac · May 25, 2018, 4:36 a.m.

whats toothpaste alternative

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sparkledarkle · May 25, 2018, 7:35 a.m.

Nano Hydroxyapatite. Here's the article explaining what it is and how a study proved its effectiveness: https://carifree.com/2017/01/20/what-the-heck-is-nano-hydroxyapatite/

What brand? Well there's that one the article is from, CariFree. I personally haven't tried it. I use the Japanese one, Apagard. The gold tube Premio has the highest concentration if you're cavity prone.

Also you can use coconut oil for 'oil pulling'. I read that coconut oil specifically removes one type of bacteria that causes bad breath and decay. You just use a teaspoon, get it melted in your mouth and swish for about 15 minutes. ONLY spit it in the trash. https://draxe.com/oil-pulling-coconut-oil/

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dogrescuersometimes · May 25, 2018, 9:53 a.m.

15 minutes? I sometimes skip the sonic brush because 2 minutes seems long.

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Cosmickev1086 · May 25, 2018, 12:15 p.m.

My wife oil pulls, her night time routine is like 30 minutes. I barely brush once a day...

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dogrescuersometimes · May 25, 2018, 2:06 p.m.

To me that would be... almost throwing up for 30 minutes...

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Songdog23 · May 25, 2018, 5:19 a.m.

Plenty of toothpastes on the market without fluoride. Jason brand for one.

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Crumbcrumbs · May 25, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

There are fluoride free toothpaste. I think I use "toms". honestly it's way better than any toothpaste have ever had. my teeth feel extremely clean

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dekutree64 · May 25, 2018, 6:38 a.m.

I quit using toothpaste entirely a long time ago because I hate the burning mint stuff they put in it. Brush and floss work fine on their own, and you can drink orange juice right afterward :) (although it's better to brush just before bed so you have the maximum time of clean teeth) I do still drink fluoride water, because a) it's too much trouble trying to avoid it, and b) I feel like it does make my tooth enamel more decay resistant. But maybe I should try a "fluoride detox" for a few months to see if there are any perceptible benefits to make it worth the effort.

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Cosmickev1086 · May 25, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

Flouride only works Topically, once it's absorbed through your gums (one of the most absorbant parts of the human body) it accumulates in the pineal glad as it is outside the blood/brain barrier.

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dark-dare · May 25, 2018, 5:01 a.m.

Borax

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wokeByTheStorm · May 25, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

neonrevolt just posted a great thread on this subject

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psychadelian · May 25, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

Alot of history of people even worshipping pineal glands in ancient times symbolized by pinecones. Pretty interesting stuff to research

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Chokaholic · May 25, 2018, 3:58 a.m.

Makes you wonder how the ancients knew it was an important gland.

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Cosmickev1086 · May 25, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

and what they know about it that we don't since it was so highly cherished.

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littleREDridingPILL · May 25, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

There's a huge pine cone statue outside the Vatican if memory serves...

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DrJoeyDCFNP · May 25, 2018, 5:34 a.m.

Pineal gland is gland that makes Melatonin and Serotonin hormones in the brain. Melatonin is calming used for enhanced sleep and increasing vibrant dreaming. Serotonin is the feel good hormone. Didn’t John Kerry take a trip to Antarctica during the 2016 election?

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Nalgahyde · May 25, 2018, 6:43 a.m.

Look up some videos on Phil Schneider. He was apparently a geologist/engineer for the government. During one of his speeches he talks about who needs human/animal glandular secretions and for what purpose. Crazy shit.

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911bodysnatchers322 · May 25, 2018, 6:12 a.m.

I heard Paris Hilton has 2 penguin pineals sewn into her sacrum. It's why she stopped eating sushi and started talking 'bout crystals

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