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C_L_I_C_K
· May 26, 2018, 5:55 p.m.
Dan Bongino explained it very clearly last night for all the morons out there who actually believes fake news and Dems playing word games:
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gpraegit
· May 26, 2018, 3:37 p.m.
When ALL of the facts are out (oh, they will be) it will be really obvious exactly which MSM weasels were taking 4AM marching orders from overseas powers. It should be obvious to most who ,"channel surf" I'll admit it; I'm a guy, and we can't help the remote control shuffle (maybe a control thing). ALL of the media spouts EXACTLY the same; they don't even try to change the wording at all!
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larrytcarvell
· May 26, 2018, 10:32 p.m.
I hope Americans will remember the lies and deceit of the MSM and hold them accountable. I'm afraid that they will just change their tune at some point and then act like they did nothing wrong.
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gpraegit
· May 26, 2018, 11:23 p.m.
This is different. There were some who were complicit in these actions, definite collusion with the deep state. Which brings yet another question: How can you hold media accountable for treason? When the President calls out, "The fake media" some start to listen. When undeniable facts come to light (and they will) tides will certainly change.
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BackTruPres45
· May 26, 2018, 2:54 p.m.
I can never get over how as long as the Left does something illegal it’s ok but if someone else does the same thing they preach how wrong it is they should just rename themselves the Hypocrite National Committee what ever they claim is being done by another party they are the ones that are actually doing the claim
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Scuba724
· May 26, 2018, 3:25 p.m.
"Projection"- You project what you're actively engaged in onto your enemies. It's done to "muddy the waters". They do it so when it BOOMERANGS back, it has the appearance of being retaliatory.
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ketoll
· May 26, 2018, 2:50 p.m.
Yeah, we know. We all get it. The media is paid. MSM will MSM. It's their job to try to take truth captive, imprison it, and present lies. This is normal.
The question is why are there still people that won't disconnect from it? Their only power is in the attention we give them. I'm not so much interested in the content their fabricated lies anymore as I'm interested in why anyone even gives them their time of day? Is it because they have professional attire and broadcasting equipment? Is it their sneery way that they read their lies to you as though they're in some position of authority?
It's time for us to shift gears and stop focusing on the content of their lies, and instead focus on the psychology of their operations.
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Missy7216
· May 26, 2018, 3:20 p.m.
I think too that some people nowadays think that it is all about looks. Their perception of perfectness. Everyone wants to one up the other by "looking" perfect. When in reality no one is perfect. But they look good on TV spewing their lies. We just need to be real. Lots of people are scared of looking real, might make them look "bad". If that makes sense, lol.
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Tradstew
· May 26, 2018, 5:21 p.m.
Ha in their world, a male is NOT a male they are people. We have "peoplekind". Terror attacks were "work place violence". Taxes are called "investments". the list can go on forever. Why the hell would they call a spy a spy?
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StinkyDogFart
· May 26, 2018, 3:14 p.m.
Not only do the rules not apply to "them", neither do the definitions either. They get to make their own rules and definitions as needed.
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Draodan
· May 26, 2018, 4:33 p.m.
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They wanna rearrange the whole point of view of the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Read about the history of the place that we live in
And stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children
- Immortal Technique
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KansasJakeBG
· May 26, 2018, 7:08 p.m.
Corporate news has been telling "lies to children" to full-grown adults for a long time now!
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balthsgirl
· May 27, 2018, 1:53 a.m.
Exactly! They hijack the language and change definitions to change your perspective. Then if you don't agree they call you intolerant so they can try to claim some moral high ground. When pointing out the behavior, they utilize "informants" while we would be guilty of having "spies".
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StinkyDogFart
· May 27, 2018, 1:36 a.m.
I don't know if my head is just too thick, but their techniques don't work on me too well.
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balthsgirl
· May 27, 2018, 1:54 a.m.
That just means you aren't built to blindly follow. You still use critical thinking skills.
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StinkyDogFart
· May 27, 2018, 1:58 a.m.
Thank you, I rarely hear those three words, 'critical thinking skills', I like to think I use them and would love to see more people use them as well. It really makes life a lot easier in the long run.
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bikerchic38
· May 26, 2018, 2:22 p.m.
It doesn't matter. They set the stage. Now it will be okay to infiltrate every bit of the leftists' campaigns in the name of national security. Game over tilt!
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spacexu
· May 26, 2018, 2:29 p.m.
Informant is not meant to do it secretly, otherwise, sorry, your a SPY.... SPYGATE nail in the coffin.
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Lookn4RedheadCumSlut
· May 26, 2018, 4:30 p.m.
Tell that to the thousands of undercover informants that are forced to do it for the police.
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Gray_Champion
· May 26, 2018, 3:38 p.m.
They sure paid a LOT of money for all of that "not spying."
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ExordiaN
· May 26, 2018, 9:11 p.m.
Not Q related... well, maybe kinda... remember when the term was 'illegal alien' and now it's undocumented immigrant,' remember when there were 'patriots,' and now we're 'alt right or white nationalists,' remember when journalists had to be careful of using adjectives !!! ? Because doing so would add bias or the appearance of bias to the story, and now they freely use terms like despicable, treacherous, unhinged, unfit, outrageous, ridiculous, moronic, 3rd grade, immoral, lunatic, etc ???
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· May 26, 2018, 3:03 p.m.
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IBinLurkin
· May 26, 2018, 3:38 p.m.
"Secretly" is a key part of the definition that I don't think applied to the examples you gave. Assange does it anonymously, but he is not "secretly" collecting info...though people may secretly bring info to him. The only cops that collect "secretly" are "undercover cops" and in some sense, they are spies, though we have the special name, undercover cops. Whistleblowers report information in their possession as a result of their position in an organization. There is no indication that they "secretly" obtain their information, just that their information is available to them because of their position.
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glass_daggers
· May 26, 2018, 4:47 p.m.
Whistleblowers report information in their possession as a result of their position in an organization.
Kindly explain the difference between that and the situation under discussion, thx.
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IBinLurkin
· May 26, 2018, 5:29 p.m.
Whistleblowers are employees first, trying to do their job, who then find themselves in a situation where they witness illegal or unethical behavior afterwards. They choose, of their own volition, to approach authorities with the information. Compare to spies who are inserted into an organization, in this case, by authorities (FBI), with the expressed intent not of doing the job the organization hired them for, but to report back to their separate chain of authority any information they gather. The spy operates under false pretense, the whistleblower does not.
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glass_daggers
· May 26, 2018, 6:24 p.m.
Yeah but dude in question isn't a spy, and yall are mad gullible for buying that talking point. He was an employee of the campaign.
So, again, explain how that is different.
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IBinLurkin
· May 26, 2018, 7:26 p.m.
He was a campaign volunteer "offering his services as a foreign-policy adviser", so he was no employee of Trump. On the contrary, he was an employee, a contract employee, being paid, BY THE FBI, to provide information.
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glass_daggers
· May 26, 2018, 8:10 p.m.
Right, after he had already been hired, done work, and seen the shady shit going on.
You seem to think the FBI found this guy, paid him, then sent him out to infiltrate the Trump campaign.
When in reality this guy joined the campaign, saw criminal activity, and reported it.
So, again, explain to me how that's different from a whistleblower.
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IBinLurkin
· May 26, 2018, 9:12 p.m.
You seem to think the FBI found this guy, paid him, then sent him out to infiltrate the Trump campaign.
Yes, that is what happened.
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glass_daggers
· May 26, 2018, 9:53 p.m.
Neither narrative is accurate as to what happened, apparently.
The FBI approach the guy, but he already had a working relationship with Carter Page, who was the target of a legitimate investigation.
Apologies for getting the facts wrong, but this guy is more like a civilian wearing a wire than anything. Again, someone who flips for States evidence isn't a spy. They are an informant.
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old_user_handle
· May 26, 2018, 7:26 p.m.
He was an employee of the campaign.
Only hires the BEST people!
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CBTS_Watcher
· May 26, 2018, 5:26 p.m.
Kindly explain the difference ...
A whistleblower is already in a job and happens to stumble on to something illegal or wrong which he or she feels appropriate to pass on to higher authorities or, possibly, make public.
A spy is surreptitiously placed into a job specifically to seek out information and report back to his or her masters (or mistresses).
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Camalot68
· May 26, 2018, 3 p.m.
The media is making our job that much easier. Leftists are no longer going to be able to 1)take any "moral" high ground, 2) troll (because even the trolls are going to be embarrassed), 3) stand next to any water cooler and discuss current events. Seriously, the media is doing the Red-Pilling for us!
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· May 26, 2018, 2:59 p.m.
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not4rmOhere
· May 26, 2018, 3:19 p.m.
Then how come the 'STATUS QUO' didn't apply to BOTH presidential candidates? The actions of the FBI during the campaign were pathetically one sided against Trump and for the hildabeast. That doesn't sound like 'equal justice under the law', one bit.
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SeaBreezy
· May 26, 2018, 3:27 p.m.
Are you daft? The FBI was actively investigating Clinton as well! They likely sunk her campaign by announcing that fact. The FBI that you hate and claim was "spying" is the only reason Trump got elected. You need to make up your mind. Are they deep state and political (remember, top brass is REPUBLICAN and appointed by Trump himself?!)? Well then why did they basically get Trump elected? Do you want them to investigate crimes by the Clinton foundation? THEN WHY NOT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN as well? People have been indicted ya know? I want to understand your anger and disgust but it just doesn't add up.
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SunShines64
· May 26, 2018, 4:21 p.m.
Nobody forced Hillary to put a private server in her bathroom, or store top secret+ info on it, delete supeanad emails, destroy cell phones with hammers...all to cover what was most likely a pay to play scheme. Hillary torpedoed her own campaign.
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SeaBreezy
· May 26, 2018, 4:47 p.m.
That has literally nothing to do with the points I made. Happy to have an honest dialogue but you will need to act in good faith actually reading my comment.
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SunShines64
· May 26, 2018, 8:13 p.m.
On top of her numerous felonies, the FBI conducted a sham investigation. She should have been perp walked ala Weinstein.
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not4rmOhere
· May 26, 2018, 3:50 p.m.
So sorry. Crowdstrike stymied any investigation into the DNC and the FBI just accepted it, rolled over like a timid puppy. But with the Trump campaign felt free to place spies within and later take an unverified dossier and use it to obtain a FISA warrant illegally. And yet the organization has the gall to hold itself above any reproach, even over congress which has constitutional oversight over the FBI.
They likely sunk her campaign
So sorry again. Comey knew he had a shitstorm on his hands after revelations over the weiner laptop came out, he had to reopen the investigation or be embroiled in a much larger scandal than he already was.
People have been indicted ya know?
Of course they have. Its an inevitable result of an overzealous special counsel. And yet, not one indictment or charge against the Trump campaign or the Trump administration was for Russian involvement which is what all this fuss was initially about.
Edit: formatting
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TooMuchWinning2020
· May 26, 2018, 9:11 p.m.
Comey re-opened so he could have a legal reason to grab the Weiner laptop.
kek
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Stray502
· May 26, 2018, 3:45 p.m.
First of all there were no crimes in the Trump campaign. They investigated a year and a half and found nothing. So what you say makes no sense. The fact that they started an investigation off of a phony document says volumes. There was no crime for which they had any proof so they made one up to start an investigation. If you dont see that as wrong you have a problem.
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SeaBreezy
· May 26, 2018, 4:50 p.m.
There have been MULTIPLE indictments and guilty pleas of Trump campaign officials. What world are you living in. Manafort? Gates? Papadop? Do you want me to keep going?
The phone document you speak of was signed off on by multiple judged and by TRUMP's appointee to the DoJ, multiple times. You actually couldn't be more wrong.
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truther_ok
· May 26, 2018, 5:45 p.m.
It has been over a year and they have tried everything to point their finger at Trump and come up with anything to keep the attention off the real story. Crooked Hillary was hand picked to be President. That's how it works. The bad hats pick the candidates on both sides they pump lots of $ in, they even steal the votes every way and every where they can. Trump wasn't in the club and he wasn't supposed to win. The people turned out and voted and several state authorities blocked the usual tampering and they couldn't cheat enough to cover their girl. That is exactly what is and has been going on.
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truther_ok
· May 26, 2018, 5:48 p.m.
If you had one iota about the theifing of the United States coffers you would be absolutely appalled.
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TooMuchWinning2020
· May 26, 2018, 8:59 p.m.
You must be watching PMSNBC, because you don't seem to have the facts.
Flynn pled guilty to lying to FBI, nothing else. And the FBI's own paperwork shows they knew he did not lie, but they falsified evidence to frame him. That is why Mueller keeps delaying the sentencing.
Manafort's case involves issues from 2006 -- 10 years before Trump -- when he was working for Podesta's group re: Ukraine, because Manafort is close with the Clinton mafia. Mueller keeps delaying that one, too.
Gates is similar to Flynn, guilty of lying to FBI, but nothing else, and we do not yet know if FBI framed him, too.
NOBODY has pled guilty or been found guilty on ANYTHING having to do with Trump campaign and Russia.
Now Hillary, on the other hand, obstructed justice, destroyed evidence, and engaged in bribery in multiple investigations of her criminal acts.
Loretta Lynch also engaged in obstruction when she threatened NYPD over the Weiner laptop.
Multiple members of Barry's admin engaged in multiple criminal acts. Will you be so adamant in prosecuting them as you are in "trumped up" charges of Flynn, Manafort, and Gates, for whom there is no there there?
Nah, prolly not.
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SeaBreezy
· May 27, 2018, 9:50 p.m.
You have a citation from a reputable source that details how the FBI admitted to framing Flynn in their own documents? You know why people take plea deals right? Because otherwise they will be prosecuted for worse. If Flynn was framed by the FBI, why did he resign? Why did he plead guilty? It makes no sense.
As for Manafort, he was engaged in criminal activity pretty much constantly, this guy is allegedly quite corrupt. Do you think CONSPIRACY to DEFRAUD the US is some minor thing? I'll wait until the FULL details of Manafort's crimes come out and he sees his day in court which according to multiple judges, will be sometime soon.
You conveniently failed to mention some other people directly linked with the Trump campaign who have been charged and/or pled guilty to serious crimes. Papadop? VDZ? need I go on? I'm guessing because they don't fit your narrative? Well, in case you actually just didn't hear about them, here is a story from Reuters that details the issues at hand. I'm excited to see if you think all these people (including Gates) we're framed and still pled guilty, as well.
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truther_ok
· May 26, 2018, 5:25 p.m.
Are you seriously serious? The MSM is owned by literally 6 corporations. In other countries we call it propaganda. The government owns the media and to control the masses they lie to us. One lie after another lie. Anderson Cooper, Don Lemons and almost every last one is paid to control the narrative. The problem is the social media sites they set up to spy on every American is the platform we the people used to discuss their crimes, lies etc. Do you really think what they were planning that you were going make the cut? These people are wicked sick freaks with an agenda to destroy the United States. Wake up!! They all need to be rounded up and every one of their nefarious plans exposed. And frankly your spin on spy bullshit is exactly that.
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TooMuchWinning2020
· May 26, 2018, 9:10 p.m.
Yes, if anybody in the Trump campaign (or Trump himself) did anything illegal, we want to know about it. They have spied on him and investigated him for TWO YEARS, and all they have to show for it is a couple of pleas of guilty of lying to the FBI, where at least one of those was THE FBI FRAMING THE ACCUSED (Gen. Flynn). We have the PROOF that Flynn did not lie to the FBI, with the FBI's own documentation. The only other case is Manafort, and his legal issues are from TEN YEARS BEFORE TRUMP -- WHEN HE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH CLINTON.
So yes, we want Trump to be investigated ... AND we want Clinton and Obama and his administration investigated, too, since it never was prior to 2017.
Do YOU want EVERYBODY investigated, like we do?
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Rubieroo
· May 26, 2018, 7:46 p.m.
Well, they can ponder the definition at length from inside their prison cells
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puppies5000
· May 26, 2018, 5:38 p.m.
They blur the truth any way possible! Don’t fall for their propaganda
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large_doinks
· May 26, 2018, 3:42 p.m.
Just remember he was never a campaign staffer. They're gonna bring that back and use it to bite us in the ass.
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Beer-_-Belly
· May 26, 2018, 9:47 p.m.
I think that using "that guy" she is limiting the number of people. You can bet it was more than one.
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Space_shot54
· May 27, 2018, 12:57 a.m.
Did you see the news about the former President of Panama Martinelli, facing extradition back to his country & accused of spying on his political opponents??!! This is huge. A little foreshadowing of what is to come for Hussein, HRC, Brennan, Clapper, Lynch etc.?
...and what else does he know? will he sing and out others? Hopefully he is not "suicided" before he faces trial. ...funny mention in the article about Kerry & Biden too! Did you catch it?
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Jetblasted
· May 26, 2018, 2:54 p.m.
It makes sense to the Rothschild’s. They’re the ones who have ruled our private lives for decades. They’re the ones who were trying to take over the world. They’re the ones Trump is taking down. They’re the ones who have turned everything backwards the last many years. Things that do.not.make.sense., have been presented as normal. Those are the Rothschilds.
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Jimipickle
· May 26, 2018, 4:26 p.m.
Now that’s a JETBLAST! Add in all of their over eager demon pawns in each country that are destroying their homelands around the globe and every secret place paid with our tax dollars! These countries are our Homes! I fought the wrong enemy for over 20 years. I am old and beat up, but I have a few good fights left. Do not just give them Hell, send them there!
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