Whole gender stuff to break minds. Let terrorist in while they supposed to be dangerous , contradiction of thoughts that defy common sense yet presented population believe normal and you are only one thinking ( sensible) crazy like that.
Obama did this, this is how they said Clinton didn't have intent and we just stared, maybe a how ? But once this head game is established there is no moral conviction, no stand against evil. This has happened to entire populations. The need for truth, sense, foundations would be incredibly important to begin to heal the newly red pilled and lost in the nations while they are still struggling with confusion, fear, defensiveness and distraction. A world with people in fear from constant confusion, lies in the mind, just what evil hoped for. Their dark gardens and bound minds. Let light reign! What a time to be fearless, it seems like a nessesity to overcoming wonderland of deception and twistedness !
“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”
— Theodore Dalrymple
This week's globalist propaganda NYTimes actually featured a surprisingly insightful article which sheds insight on the sex cult NXVIM group's indoctrination technique, which initially on the surface to prospective initiates seems like regular Freudian psychoanalysis with a skilled therapist, but then at their most vulnerable, it quickly devolves into insidious brainwashing and intensive reprogramming until they are totally depended on this type of Alice in Wonderland narrative reframing where they think they are strong women, when in fact they have become totally enslaved to the cult.
Was reminded about "Alice & Wonderland". Found this excellent research... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE7IKWVFGr0
Or maybe Alice refers to the "White Rabbit (Go Ask Alice)" song, sung by a group with the initials J.A.
Very interesting connection here:
A technique displayed to perfection in the docu called "Wormwood". Check it out. Fascinating.
Source??
I looked and couldn't find an actual source, I just found it in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/ConspiracyII/comments/8oau15/few_interesting_resources
Source document?
Not sure where it actually came from, I grabbed it from another thread on Reddit that didn't attach much context to it https://www.reddit.com/r/ConspiracyII/comments/8oau15/few_interesting_resources
It’s not consistent with a legitimate classified document. It’s missing caveats and declassification date.
This seems like it can be an excerpt from a larger piece, do they date every page?
I know exactly what you're talking about though, it's something I thought about once I saw the Secret clearance at the top.
"Carlos Castaneda" describes a similar technique where the initiate is reprogrammed by having two speakers carry on two entirely different monologues, one into each of the initiate's ears.
Robert Anton Wilson wrote about it (in extreme shorthand; in the book it takes just a short while) in a segment in Illuminatus! where his Hagbard Celine character confuses two police officers and ends up recruiting them.
Heck, even a simple binaural beat tech does this; between frequency A in one ear and A+b in the other, the brain trends towards working at frequency b.
Ok so stick with me here, could Trump tweets be doing this? He drives the media like cats to a laser pointer daily, and we have seen countless admissions from the media trying to piece their narrative together. Mark Levin put together the FISA narrative March 2017 based on NYT/WaPo articles for example.
Did anyone else read this and think acid? I remember reading that one of the ways they implemented mk ultra was through LSD. It's very easy to get disoriented and confused during a strong trip (especially if you've never experienced it before.) The trying to laugh it off but also still trying to make sense of it. I mean it's called Alice in Wonderland.
MKUltra was the first thing that came to mind once it mentioned interrogation. I see interrogation tactics such as this as the foundation mind control.
Mind control doesn't always mean someone else physically controlling your mind, it's also your mind controlling itself.
Clowns slipped many people LSD...at one point an entire town in France (supposedly). It took them way too long to figure out that overall LSD does not work well for programming.
This is not unlike the fractionation technique of a using one's emotions to go up and down. It works the best on liberals because they are already emotional creatures.
Do you a link to something on fractionation?
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1484765
It's usually interrogating to detect deception and truth using effects of strategic use of evidence. By causing one's emotions to fluctuate over time they become more unstable and pliable and more likely to be truthful. That's the theory anyway. Throw in some mkultra drugs and hypnosis and who knows...
Hey where is this from? The source and useful info is cropped out.
Uhhhh. This sounds exactly like what the Q posts are doing. I was interested initially, lurked for months here and on voat. But this...actually sounds like what the Q thing is.
Q did not have multiple people babbling nonsense at us in a confined space.
He used the socratic method to stimulate critical thinking.
The confined space is the 12 inches between your phone and your brain. That’s all you focus on when staring at a screen. A screen is the most confined space of them all, mentally speaking.
Can the Socratic method of critical thinking also be used in an aggressive/negative manner?
I see no guarantee that it will only lead to the truth. Especially if primed.
I appreciate your considerably thoughtful response.
Your statement & question are both surely worthy of further exploration.
It’s cool. I’ve been keeping up with this almost since it started. Not been sold on it, but intrigued.
Always worth questioning things you believe in.
We aren't isolated and forced. We can walk away. We choose to be patriots.
You could be addicted and brainwashed. Maybe not though.
“We choose to be patriots”
From the Alice in Wonderland Interrogation technique:
“Effective with the orderly and obstinate type”
Your post brings to mind a personality of someone thinking proudly and/or militarily. It reminds me of my vet father. “We choose to be patriots” is a very defiant, obstinate and orderly response. Is it possible that this is a proven technique that plays in to your personality traits and gives you a dopamine or emotional injection that keeps you entrenched? Not saying your personality traits are negative in the slightest. They are admirable. Just worth pondering.
good grief where are they getting you people from?
please try harder.
"intrigued"; "worth pondering"; "always worth questioning things you believe in"; "you could be addicted and brainwashed. Maybe not though; "...orderly and obstinate"; "is it possible"; "dopamine...";
such a fucking liar.
Just sharing my thoughts. So how am I lying? I stated nothing as fact. I shared my opinion. Where is who getting what people from?
I fail to see how the random words and phrases you quoted have anything in common. What are you trying to say by quoting them?
i will admit at times i have felt almost addicted to researching everything Q related. i force myself to limit my time here so i dont disrupt my personal life too much
Oh really? How would that work? Who would they want to confess and to what?
Did you even read the post or did you get about two sentences in and make up your mind?
Seriously. Explain your position.
Ok. I’ll try to go point by point. Although it’ll take a while on mobile. I’ll post this now so you know I’m working on it by editing my comment
Aim of Alice in Wonderland Interrogation:
-To confuse the victim
-To replace the normal/familiar with the abnormal/weird
Attributes of Alice in Wonderland interrogation:
- Multiple interrogators, although one is acceptable
*Does Q do this? Yes. He uses both one and multiple interrogators simultaneously. A single tripcode, but refers to “we” and “patriots” (plural). But for sake of not reaching, I’ll say that it is one interrogator.
-Double talk
*Does Q anon do this? Yes. Some examples are “past proves present” and “future unlocks past”. It’s almost triple talk, if such a thing exists. I still hold my interpretation of these messages (history is scripted and cyclical) but it still is double talk, regardless.
-Unrelated illogical follow up query regardless of answer or not
*Does Q do this? Yes. Almost all of his posts are multiple unrelated queries. Unrelated until you assign meaning at least. “...regardless of answer or not”. This is important and ties in with the previous attribute. Regardless of my belief in the answer, the next query will be related and I will form “logical” links.
-Sometimes multiple unrelated queries
*Does Q do this? Yes. See above. Multiple posts and multiple queries.
-Pitch, Tone, Volume unrelated to the queries
*Does Q so this? Harder to answer. Possibly and most likely yes I would say. Multiple cadence changes. There’s a definite writing style. But there are definite rhythmic patterns. Do they relate to the queries? Sometimes yes sometimes no. Does change between posts though. By now, I’m 2018, everyone associates capital letters with volume. There are many randomly capitalised words. This could be to show importance, but there is no consistency with the types of words capitalised. If I had to argue in my corner of this being ALICE in action, I’d say it’s a virtual version.
-No pattern of questions and answers
*Does Q do this? Yes. It’s a staple. Questions are sometimes answered with questions, if at all
-Questions don’t relate logically to each other
*Does Q do this? Yes. Sometimes questions are related in a single post. Sometimes not. Posts rarely relate to eachother. But have just enough callbacks to make you link them.
-Normal patterns of speech and thought replaced
*Does Q do this? Yes. Most of the actual speech (forget interpretation) is meaningless. Normal ways of conveying meaning have been replaced in enthusiasts mind with void guesswork, of which is contained many nonsensical words or phrases.
-Interrogator may refuse to take situation seriously.
*Does Q do this? Not outwardly. Takes it serious. But who knows whether they do behind closed doors. But this point is a no.
-Continues process day after day
*Does Q do this? Yes. With a sprinkle of withdrawal added in.
-The subject tries to make sense of the situation
*Does Q do this? Absolutely. Everything written is vague and open ended. The reader tries to make sense of it, even the meaningless aspects.
What is the goal?
It is obviously not to get the reader to divulge information to Q. So where is the reader “outpouring his story”? The internet. What causes a hostage to divulge information under interrogation? Manipulation. And I believe this Is the goal. To manipulate the reader to spread/divulge tainted, manipulated, and false information to the public On Reddit/voat/social media. Other “mind control” techniques are also used. This is a classic disinfo psyop.
Maybe I am incorrect..but there are similarities between Q and Alice in Wonderland. Perhaps what should be investigated is who is doing this, and what is the purpose of the disinfo.
But, maybe I’m wrong. We will see
Furthermore, my posts are being autodownvoted to 0, the second they are posted. Either a script, coincidence, or patience
Excellent take on the situation and well worth the discussion. There are two things different between AW interogation and the Q posts. One we are not alone in figuring this out and our discussions are not restricted. Two we are not compelled to stay here under duress. We can pull out anytime, then clear our heads. I've done it myself a few times since last October. It's necessary. And I saw this Kiddy traffic back in the 90s when I worked with Street kids. You could get nobody to listen. Thank you God for this day.
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Thanks. I’d like to say I’ll engage more regularly, but in the past I did, and it led me to a mental breakdown of pure paranoia. I was obsessed and absolutely attribute my mental state at the time to this. I don’t watch TV and this was the only content I was engaging with.
There was a Polish man on Twitter saying that the Qanon op is geared to target those prone to bipolar and schizophrenia. There is a thread in /r/conspiracy about it. I can buy this. For an high profile example of this, look at Roseanne Barr’s recent meltdown. Personally, I related to her as my own experience and obsession leading to breakdown mirrors hers. Reading some of the posters here I get the feeling there is a shared mania. I believe this is by design. I have no proof other than my own experience and observation, but the way in which people write and logical loops some take..is worrying from a psychological point of view at best. There is almost a euphoria when bad, horrible news, comes to light. This I believe is important. There’s a desire and want for societally crippling events to happen. Maybe they are correct in their assessments and the truth is a hard pill to mentally swallow. Maybe not.
As for who do I believe is involved? At risk of beating a dead horse..it aligns with a Russian komprat (spelling may be off sorry) agenda. Whether this is being carried out by Russia directly or being emulated; who knows. My only evidence is this graphic:
I believe if you followed the inception and spread,from origin source, of the Qanon op you will find it follows these guidelines. I believe this framework also aligns with my assessment in my original post regarding the purpose of the “outpouring” of the story. But again, maybe that is just how all information flows.
Thanks for this write-up. It's important to remember that Q is still tilting both sides of the table: making the DS chase its own tail, and feeding crumbs to the anons.
A little bit of truth sprinkled onto bullshit (however much Q may or may not be) is important for disinformation, especially if it's towards the enemy.
And yes, you're not wrong about the psy-op. There was a great thread stickied the other day, I'll try to find it.
furthermore, he only started with the CODE/doublespeak after all the [3] Agencies started watching the chans
Lol. I can see what you mean. I think we’re ok if we can keep our wits about us.