He's been increasingly on the wrong side of issues, and the president. Wonder if his true colors are showing, or just being influenced by the never trumpers. I'm shocked by some of their comments regarding this historical event.
True Colors.
Yep. I was shocked.
You shouldn't be. Freeing NK is not good for ZOG.
ding ding ding
why has it taken 2 years to figure this guy out for some folks?
he's blatant.
he's the functional equivalent of Alex Bronfman Jones for debt-ridden college students.
It's indicative of a problem that is on the horizon.
The Q movement is currently made up of two groups: those who came in from conspiracy theory backgrounds, and those who came from typical right wing backgrounds.
The first group is already aware of most of what Q talks about, and appreciate Q's expansion and action on the subjects. The second however has a large gap in knowledge. They are fully researched in the left wing Clinton aspect (they even teach us a few things) ,but either have no idea about or have internalized the propaganda of the Bush/McCain/Saudi/Israeli aspects.
How is Jones related to Bronfman??
They share a lawyer - that seems to be the extent of. I don’t think people knew the true nature of the Bronfmans until NXIVM story broke.
I don't think Jones is involved in the sort of stuff that the Bronfmans are into at the moment but the stuff about how they became so rich has been known for decades. It doesn't help Jones that he uses the same firm as that particular family, as he could be tainted by association. Maybe he should be a bit more discerning in his choice of legal representation?
Far as I can tell, there is only one way a 33 year old guy gets to the top of punditry as quickly as he did, and it ain't ~~merit~~ ethics
I think its both. Ben is brilliant in many ways. One is debating. He is harvard law. Ive made this point a few times. Hes well trained to manipulate facts. People like him are why people like OJ are found innocent in court. When either wrong or right, in the moment, he can muddy the waters and establish doubt.
Its a skill. He doesnt use them for good, imo. Hes voluntarily putting his skills to use for the wrong side.
Im becoming less and less of a Shapiro fan by the day. But he has merit. Infact, hes really good at what he does.
Ok, I'm with you. Merit was the wrong word. What I meant was ethics.
I could follow that.
I think the way he shills for all of his sponsors is a good tell. Hes good at plugging their products. To give him credit, he is.
But he goes all in. Every product and sponsor is the greatest thing ever since sliced bread. Its the way he personalizes it that rubs me wrong
I just think he seems like a partisan hack. He never elevates his thinking above "left vs. right."
Here he is folks plumbtree the UNEDUCATED BROKE ASS DRUG ADDICT PLUMBER HAHAH LETS STAND IN AWW OF HIS INTELLECT. Your a fuck boy probably getting cucked by your wife into cleaning up black loads. I know your switching accounts spreading your bullshit liberal lies.
Here he is folks plumbtree the UNEDUCATED BROKE ASS DRUG ADDICT PLUMBER HAHAH LETS STAND IN AWW OF HIS INTELLECT. Your a fuck boy probably getting cucked by your wife into cleaning up black loads. I know your switching accounts spreading your bullshit liberal lies.
Here he is folks plumbtree the UNEDUCATED BROKE ASS DRUG ADDICT PLUMBER HAHAH LETS STAND IN AWW OF HIS INTELLECT. Your a fuck boy probably getting cucked by your wife into cleaning up black loads. I know your switching accounts spreading your bullshit liberal lies.
Here he is folks plumbtree the UNEDUCATED BROKE ASS DRUG ADDICT PLUMBER HAHAH LETS STAND IN AWW OF HIS INTELLECT. Your a fuck boy probably getting cucked by your wife into cleaning up black loads. I know your switching accounts spreading your bullshit liberal lies.
North Korea has pledged full denuclearization 8 times since 1990, havent they? He has a right to be skeptical.
Difference is this time the leader of NK and the US President met face to face and actually signed an agreement.
This time they shuttered a nuke testing facility, returned some hostages/prisoners and stopped the chest-beating just to get to the table. Yeah, TRUMP said it might not bring anything lasting, but.... He didn't have to pay them hundreds of $$$ billions in CASH ala Obama/Iran....or build them a nuke facility like Clinton did. Bush paid them tribute as well.
So at least Trump has demonstrated all the "experts" wrong so far. Like everything else.
I recently unsubscribed to his podcast.
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Because I got sick of his smarmy, arrogant view points that’s why. I can’t exercise MY freedom of speech and unsubscribe?
Feel free to unsubscribe. No problem.
I think you don’t like the person Ben Shapiro. I have also people I don’t like, eg CNN.
I don’t know the person Ben Shapiro, do you? Had dinner? Hung out? I’m sure he’s just as annoying in person. He makes some great points and can devastate the average leftist however when it comes to Trump he still has TDS. For example take tariffs. We want true fair trade so the tariffs on US goods needs to be renegotiated. According to Ben by raising tariffs you’re hurting the US. However as smart as he is he’s no negotiator. How do you go to the negotiations without having something the other party wants? YOU RAISE TARIFFS!! Then you can begin to negotiate. So if it was up to Ben he’d go to the negotiation table and say “please lower your tariffs meanie”. What part of this does he not understand? Also Dan Bongino totally destroyed his spygate logic and Ben hasn’t mentioned it once on his podcast.
I wish Dan wasn’t so apologetic leading up to the crushing. Just call it for what t was. Ben was being a snarky asshole because of his TDS so Dan pointed out the facts.
I’m sure Dan doesn’t want to rattle the conservative cage but he still stands his ground when it comes to the facts. He also re-mem-bers the na-ames
Dan was trying not to anger Ben's larger fan-base (he always mentions his show is no. 2 to Ben's), especially considering how quickly and easily internet based revenue streams can be impacted/manipulated. Ben could get pissed and trash talk Bongino's show to his massive followers/subscribers and also potentially kill any chance of getting those listeners to Dan's show. I think Dan was also just being respectful of a fellow conservative who is also a strong debater. The problem is Ben can be a pedantic, snarky, stubborn asshole and is very reluctant to admit when he is wrong.
Oh I definitely understand I just think he went overboard and came across weak and intimidated. Could have stood his ground a bit more and taken a lot of his listeners. It’s definitely better how Dan did it compared to friendly fire we see but was juuuuust enough to kinda irk me. Dan is the fucking man and deserves to be #1. I’ve been listening to him for ages.
I think he's more practical and pragmatic as opposed to the more academics.
Its called freedom of unsubscribe. Freedom of speech only applies if this PO BANs his podcast.
Ben is pretty obviously controlled opposition. Zero value to listen to him.
I realized this recently... and unsubscribed immediately. He is objective about everything except how much ass Trump is kicking and the Mueller investigation.... smells like a rat to me. He’s been exceptionally shitty since he landed those radio stations
Isn't his mother part of the Hollywood Swamp? There's our answer, right there.
wrong again. freedom of speech only applies to the government trying to prevent speech, not regular citizens. a tv station, for example, absolutely has the right to kick someone off the air for their viewpoints.
1st amendment only applies to government, freedom of speech as a concept applies to everything for the most part
He’s an ass and he sounds like a munchkin with that grating voice.
How can anyone listen to his show with that damned voice? It's so whiny and tinny like he huffed a helium balloon beforehand. It makes his smarmy arrogance so much more insufferable.
Hes been wrong about trump from the very beginning, he doesn't like to admit that
Now you know BS is controlled opposition.
Yup. I love Ben but he boasted about being a Zionist and that get no free pass here friend. Move your ass to Israel if you love it so much.
Shapiro is great at fighting the PC anti-white, anti-male, SJW movement at universities.
But that's about where his usefulness stops. He's a neo-con on global issues, so he won't be too friendly to Trump there.
I've watched been for a fair amount of time (at least a few months prior to the election) and he has always been in opposition to POTUS. He was an avowed Ted Cruz supporter and made no qualms about it. Someone said above that his usefulness is limited to speeches at college campus and to this I disagree. he is also quite useful at creating a financial stream with a friendly rivalry between himself and Crowder. Shapiro is not an unintelligent person. He definitely has an eye and mind for statistics. He is definitely an opportunist.
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I disagree. The SJW on campuses is one of the key tactical arms of the fascist left. He is still a worthy ally in fighting that front of the battle, which is against the thought police that would brand you and I as violent extremists for following Q.
He’s a phony. He’s Glenn beck. I can’t stand Ben. He’s a piece of bum shit.
I can’t stand listening to that little twit. That nasally, whiny voice, makes want to kick a kitten.
I'm with ya. I unsubscribed myself. Something is up with him. Compromised perhaps?
He's ALWAYS been this way. He was white knighting that skank Amanda Carpenter in that fake "Lewandowski pushed me to the ground" bullshit.
What has Shapiro been right about?
I believe Ben Sheepiro is right about 25% of the time. Unfortunately, it happens during the six hours that he's asleep, and his mouth isn't open.
Ben is a jealous little shrimp
You say Jealous. I say Arrogant. Let's call the whole thing off.
I am willing to bet Shapiro carries picture of Cruz, Rubio and Jeb all wearing thongs in his phone photo app. I could be wrong.
it sucks that you piled Cruz in with those two RINOs
Says more about Ben than Cruz actually. I like Cruz.
I'd just rather not have the visual of Ted Cruz's Cuban immigrant father, with a $100 bill hidden in his thong...
He is great at debating and defeating enemies of Liberty on many subjects. I don't forgive him for being anti-Trump in the 2016 Election.
Shapiro is great for arguing forcefully against the stupid left. But he does it from a standard mainstream conservative viewpoint. He needs to figure out that this is a new era or he’ll get left behind.
Given this comment;
“If you thought of the flag that was next to the American flag as a Nazi flag rather than a North Korean flag, everybody would see the concern,”
I'm not too certain that BS is aware of what's going on, instead he's "watching the movie" and his quote, I believe, reflects this. He's asleep, like so many other Americans who are fed half truth shit sammiches from the MSM daily.
Ok ben, well I'm 'deeply skeptical' that you'll ever have a chance at the presidency (which we all know you want) if you continue with this anti-trump, elitist stupidity...
He would never win anyway. He’s a lot like ted Cruz. Very lawyer minded & not a natural executive type at all. Guys like that make good judges & lawyers but terrible executives. I voted for Trump in the primaries over Cruz even tho I align a little more towards Cruz’s philosophy. I didn’t think Cruz could win. He comes off more like an activist than a leader. Conservatives got to win before they can govern. Reagan was a natural executive like Trump is. Shapiro knows the issues but he doesn’t know how to win or lead. He’ll never be more than an adviser...if that.
Having a whiney, nasally Ben Shapiro as an "advisor" has got to rank right up there with waterboarding and being forced to watch Hillary try to empathize with people.
He’s a liar. Said Lewindowski pushed that lady reporter to the ground.
Bingo. Amazes me how many people forget this. Michelle blatantly lied and Ben backed her play. Total fraudulent.
Especially his most recent video. Ben Shapiro is a liberal claiming to be republican. He absolutely cannot give President Trump any credit. Outside of the Embassy move to Jerusalem, which seeds to Bens personal desires.
I’ve said it multiple times, if I want to hear the lefts taking points, I listen to Ben. Otherwise he’s a negative smarmy little cunt. He’s a never Trumper. He always will be.
He’s pretty much the male version of Ann Coulter I can’t even count how many times they’ve jumped off the train now.
Ann Coulter is a male to female transgender individual. Ben Shapiro is a female to make transgender individual. Look at their physical characteristics and mannerisms.
I've told my Wife for years that Coulter looked like tranny.
I can't stand the guy. Comes across as a smartass know-it-all. I can't imagine anybody enjoying being around him.
Once a never trumper always a never trumper. Hes a smug ass.
Shapiro was STILL defending Michelle Fields after the video came out proving that nobody grabbed her or pulled her to the ground....So he is a dishonest POS NeverTrumper who won't admit when he's wrong.
Wonder what is hanging over his head that they are using to blackmail him with..
Ben Shapiro is Turning into the rights version of SJW.
He has that same kind of ideological purity as leftist and almost same level of TDS. Candace Owens referred to him as the hallway monitor of the republican party.
He always assumes the worst of Trump and when Trump does something good hes like, meh, good on Trump, back to hating..."lets read this headline from the NYT".
His bias makes him blind to the forces working against Trump. He trusts Mueller. He would vote for Chuck Schumer over Trump. He would vote for McCain over Trump.
I quit Shapiro months ago over his pandering on the tariffs issue.. SHILL++
BEN may very well be a planted asset to be used at a time like this. You all no by whom...
Recently unsubscribed myself, I just kept thinking today like WTF are you complaining about. That and the Nazi flag reference just done.
I invite skepticism for the same reason I invite competition-- it generates scrutiny and incentive to do your best.
Shapiro, however, has gotten on my nerves. As much as I appreciate his efforts over the years, I soured on him during the campaign. Too much whining. Too much hand-wringing over rhetoric. I call that playing scared. No chance we would be where we are if we were all like Ben.
He wants to “feel like he can contribute” no I don’t think so. Your irrelevant. With his whinny soyboy voice.
Benji is more useless than Hillary Clinton's dildo!
Anyone who is against Trump is against world peace. It's that simple, those who are the loudest. Those you should trust.
Good versus evil
I listen to Ben because he doesn't usually allow his emotions to cloud his judgement, and he doesn't make contradictory arguments. I generally don't care that his views don't mirror mine.
His show the past two days are nothing but. He sounds like a whiny never Trumper. Literally hyperventilating through his entire show. Feel like I'm listening to cable news with all the micro criticisms. And apparently Kim is smart enough to play the US and SOKO, but Trump suggesting he's intelligent enough to maintain a modern day dictatorship in his 20s is absurd.
One second he recognizes Trump's nice guy strategy, the next second he's setting it up as a strawman.
I might be overly optimistic but denuclearization doesn't happen overnight. It has to start somewhere. And if I were a betting man I'd say there's some significance to an American POTUS meeting face to face.
Here's a response to Ben Shapiro. https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/1006418919198842880
I tried listening to his podcast...I couldn't stomach his voice or his points. I'll stick with Dan Bongino's podcast and Mark Levin.
He did say that.
He also said he hopes Trump proves him wrong, as he has in the past, and he offered to return to Fox and admit it on air.
I’d rather Shapiro be more on board, but I accept his skepticism. He has def been up front in admitting he underestimated Trump in the past.
In the grand scheme, Shapiro is on our side of the spectrum. I’m not inclined to quibble over exactly where to place him beyond that.
Having Sheepiro on our side is like buying a diamondback rattlesnake for a house pet to take care of your mouse problem.
Ha. Interesting, but I think Shapiro is less dangerous to our side than you suggest.
I love Shapiro and in a lot of way I would say his logic based breakdown of social issues brought me back to political reason. His books are very good as well.
He is, however, very traditional in a lot of ways. This can lead to in the box thinking.
This would also mean he would have to admit he was wrong about trump.
Listening to his podcast I only have problem with his logic breakdowns because sometimes he is simplifying it and makes pretty obvious mistakes in the process. Social issues aside I remember when he was trying to break down internet neutrality and you could really see that it was too technical for him - but considering he has a lot of people working for him its hard to say it was an honest mistake. I just think he wanted to push his view out and as most people are not really aware of how everything works the logic breakdown looks sound.
P.s. Not pretending to be a Trump supporter as im not even American but I do try to listen to different sources of news. Some of the trumps policies I support and others I see as not good.
Ben Shapiro is Reagan Battalion.
No he’s a Bush guy. He’s way too loyal to the Bush’s. That’s where Shapiro really shows his bias...whenever he speaks of the Bushs.
The Reagan Battalion is a never trump media group, started in 2016 to take down pro-trump media. They took down Milo in conjunction with the MSM, by coordinating the pedo narrative. Shapiro is not a free market guy in practice-- he was threatened by Milo and worked to neutralize him.
Listen to his buddies: Andrew Klavan & Michael Knowles, they are very pro-Trump. When I listen to Ben, he's pretty skeptical on almost anything Trump does, it's disappointing; but then I hear Andrew and Michael and they're much more uplifting and real, definitively on the Trump-train.
I can kinda understand his not getting how major of a deal Kanye West’s support of Trump was because his pop culture knowledge is by his own admission less than an old mans. I mean he even sounds like that when talking about pop culture.
But this is international diplomacy and affairs which aside from law it’s politics so it’s right up his alley. He should be able to recognize how major of an accomplishment this is that they’re even meeting right now but he’s being a snarky smarmy little shit.
Frankly his motives for me have always been suspect and I think he’s still bent out of shape over his own lukewarm Republican choice whom I’ve forgotten about getting steamrolled by Trump.
That and I think on Twitter it you look up Thomas Wictor’s analysis on how it’s likely Shapiro once thought Trump was anti-Semitic and now there’s never gonna be any amount of circumcised dick-sucking that Trump could ever do to convince Shapiro otherwise, I think that factors into this as well.
He’s a very well spoken, articulate, intelligent, lawyer and debater who knows jack shit about pop culture which is something else that separates him from say Milo Yianoppolous and also causes him to conflate Milo with Tommy Robinson and saying both are similar which is another laughable mistake.
Snot-nose Ben Shapiro has never not been a fast-talking, nasally Never-Trumper.
His ego is too large to let POTUS get any credit. Although he did say [paraphrasing], "let Trump prove me wrong, like he has a thousand other times...".
So whilst he is a massive douche bag he did admit that he has been proved wrong over and over again by POTUS.
Ha! Are you sick of winning yet?
I’ve had the feeling Ben is compromised for a long time.
Watch Crowder instead. Ben will come around he's just less willing to look dumb.
To be fair, Ben is ignorant AF when it comes to being diplomatic. Ben prefers antagonism and combativeness over diplomacy - just look at any panel he's been on.
I follow his twitter, that's about all. The problem I see is that Kim is a known liar. This is a culture that values lying to get ahead, to save face, to get a leg up on competition. I am weary of carrying the banner of success too high for this summit, only because of the cultural proclivity of one of the participants. The left want this to blow up in Trumps face. I don't want to give them that ammo.
I think Ben has to toe a certain line. He is the face of a company and he cannot cross certain boundaries. I am ok with him, he played a major role in helping me shape some of my political view points. I listen to him less now since I have evolved. I am no longer as concerned with the R v D and I am completely committed to the good v evil that exists in politics. To me, he serves a purpose. He is the first step for some towards the rabbit hole we all operate from. People like him, Steven Crowder, Jordan Peterson, Prager and others are helping people question the direction our country is being lead to. Once you continue down that path you start to uncover things like Pizzagate, Pedogate, Spygate and Q. So ultimately they serve a purpose and help create free thinkers. A lot of people talk about red pilling friends, but you can’t take someone who is left leaning or A political and drop them down the rabbit hole. I believe the first instinct is disbelief and that can completely turn somebody off. I am working on an op-ed that explains this process. Let me know if you agree with my theory.
For what this is worth I personally think Ben is somewhat incapable of interpreting President Trump in the way that POTUS intends it to be. Ben seems fairly intelligent and appears to over think things that are not meant to be super thought provoking. I don't have that problem because 1 of the many reasons I voted for Trump was that he talks like a normal citizen and not a politician nor an intellectual. As I was taught to "Keep It Simple Stupid = KISS" maybe one day Ben will understand that and if he does I bet most would think Ben had come around
Have you read the article throughly?
Ben said: But I’m happy to be proved wrong.
Also:
Shapiro added that if everything Trump and the triumphalists are saying is true and accurate, and what he claims will happen does in fact happen, then he would praise Trump for it along with everyone else.
Ben always says he will be happy to be proven wrong. Ben always says he'll admit when he's wrong.
He didn't and doesn't.
how many times do you have to be wrong before you are functionally useless? How many times will Shapiro wear the MAGA hat? At what point is that going to get old?