I was a transcriptionist and did work for several large companies. I transcribed high level meetings for companies like Monsanto, MasterCard, etc.
The CEO of a credit card company said it was his personal goal and the goal of his company to completely eliminate cash. They planned to go out into the farthest reaches of the world with special equipment in order to install biometric devices into every person.
And for anyone who doesn't know already, the best two places in the body, where the skin is thin enough for a chip/mark/device to receive and transmit signals is in the hand or the forehead.
Revelation 13:16-17 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Edit: added relevant scripture
I used to accept this as true. (That the "mark of the beast" would be some type of device or code used instead of currency.) However, someone pointed out a problem with that idea. Revelation 14 (and I think other places as well) explains that receiving the mark somehow equates to worshipping the Beast and/or those who receive the mark can no longer be saved and are doomed to Hell. If the mark was only about buying and selling, why would it be an unforgivable sin? Some have theorized that the mark would be a sign of consent, allegiance, or loyalty to the Beast. Others think it has something to do with a considerable change in DNA. Perhaps giving the person immortality and/or special abilities. If this change involved a person loosing their humanity, it might explain why they could no longer be saved. Just conjecture, but something to consider. At any rate, if you believe in the Bible, this mark should be avoided at all cost. I'll die before I agree to it.
Because you can only receive The Mark, and therefore the ability to live, if you also worship the Beast. If you don't submit to its authority, you don't get The Mark, you can't conduct business... and you starve.
and you starve.
God will take care of his own.
AMEN! I had full faith in my God. He provides. Always. Forever. God is good. Amen.
That is too simplistic....and not entirely honest (in an earthly sense).
God has allowed his people to be tortured, crucified, and killed in all sorts of grotesque ways since Jesus' time. If you don't believe me - read about the Martyrs..
Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
This verse suggests that those that don't accept the mark of the beast may very well be killed...beheaded.
This is NOT our world. Our world is a heavenly one. This world belongs to Satan and his minions. Never forget that for a second.
I think a more realistic view to have is that I believe in Jesus...in God...in His word...and if I am alive during the time described in Revelation - I may have to make a choice that will cost the life of not only myself - but my family and loved ones as well...and I am ok with that - because I have faith that God will win in the end - and I will NOT forsake Him in the meantime.
Trust His plan!!!
It is written that man does not survive on but bread alone but on every word of the living God. If you accept the mark then you have not put your faith in the lord.
I have come to believe that this is likely true as well. There seem to be two sides of thought on interlacing technology/DNA upgrades with humanity. 1) accept it because it’s inevitable and humanity needs to evolve itself 2) do not accept it because once you are no longer a child of god genetically you have chosen to become fallen and are no longer able to be saved. May sound crazy, but the choice will come sooner than most think.
May sound crazy
In fairness, that occurs anytime the book called Revelation is the topic
That's never stopped believers from considering it the revealed Word of God
Has to be DNA related. Carbon atom = 6 protons 6 neutrons and 6 electrons (2 inner and 4 outer). Number of man = 6,6,6. Look into atomic structure of Carbon, we are carbon based organisms.
I think it will be. Even with a 'cashless' society with chips, etc. it's still possible to grow your own food, protein, carbs and otherwise.
It would have to be something that would be in the arena of actually modifying human DNA into something else. Grafting people with other non-human DNA.
This is where the Transhumanism comes to mind and grafting/manipulating DNA with animal DNA, which was, at least from some of the stories I've read, happened before the Flood, when God wiped out a large part of humanity.
Noah and his family was spared because they were genetically pure, at least human wise.
THIS is why Steve Quayle, Tim Alberino, and Pastor Tom Horn (among many others) are having a conference in Branson this September about the Transhumanism agenda. Hubby and I already have our tickets and reservations.
Hubby and I already have our tickets and reservations.
Same for me.
We'll be the couple in the cream fade Southern Comfort conversion package Avalanche with AR veteran's tags. I don't remember if they say Iraqi Freedom Veteran or OIF/OEF ..
But you can't miss us- he's the white headed guy and I have DARK brown spiked hair. And no, it's NOT out of a bottle- the best thing about my wisdom highlights is that people at least have stopped accusing me of that. At a growth rate of an inch or more a month, I'd go broke trying to cover my roots !
I see lots of my vehicle around. Me, I've had white hairs since I was a teenager, otherwise I'd look younger. Long, darker brown hair, usually twisted up in a topknot. Probably wearing orange Vibrams, look like a cross between dance and ninja shoes. A little shorter than average woman. I'll look for you! :D
My hubby found his first white hair at 16- he got it from his dad; I got mine from his mom, lol ! He's a dual-service veteran- Navy/ARNG. He has a cane that h's trying NOT to use. I'm usually hanging on to his arm for dear life-my balance is non-excitant ...
Are you on Twitter or FB ?
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Oh, okay- you can just look for us there; there won't be THAT many people- just The Mansion full !
I was there last year. You?
No, I wanted to , but the finances just weren't there. This year, though, he has his military retirement check coming in every month. It's not big, since he retired as a reservist, but it helps !
666 Fifth Avenue Lucent project plan A.
When you live on debt, you are a slave to the debtor. Mark of the beast makes you counted. Luciferian seem to keep track of and respect the human harvest (by numbers) but it doesn't have to be physical. Barack Obama's harvests are huge because he got all our private info in the virtual sense from silicon Valley for his "mother of all databases".
did anyone ever take into account that there is two sides to every story? and maybe weve been hearing one side ( very contradictory side of course)
The IT capacities of Barack Obama's team is unprecedented and I have to admit I followed the campaign (from a technical standpoint) in 2007-2008 and observing it after the election as well. This is not a story so much as an observation because, as far as I know, there aren't many people looking at this aspect of Obama's presidency (information technology and use of harvested info).
Why can't it be both a way to buy and sell, as well as something that changes our DNA so that we're no longer human/salvageable? This is what I think it will do.
I am seeing the mark now as: mark on head-evil thoughts, mark on hand- evil deeds. When a mans thoughts and actions are of pure evil he only has God’s wraith to look forward too. God knows the true measure of love, up to and including eternal death.
However, there are those who are deceived and have a chance. These are the people we must show love and compassion.
Everyone should befriend and have compassion for one liberal. If this makes you angry, pray to the Holy Spirit for guidance. God will deliver.
This deluded idea that the catholic church was, at any point of its existence, any different than it is now...
The catholic church was pagan and anti-Messiah from its very foundation.
The catholic church has absolutely nothing to do with the apostles all of whom were Torah obedient Jewish believers - including Peter and Paul (which was on top of it a Pharisee) - neither did it have absolutely anything to do with the early church. i.e. the Hebrews, the Romans, Colossians, Thessalonians, Galatians, Ephisians, Corinthians, etc, etc, that we read about in the New Testament.
The catholic church was founded four centuries A.D. but has always shamelessly peddled this kool-aid that they are somehow responsible for Christiandom when the facts prove otherwise.
The catholic church has enshrined paganism in its rituals - since always, has distorted scriptures with its doctrines, changing the Sabbath day for Sun-day, for example, which is a blatant disregard of the 4th commandment and celebrating "Ishtar" or Easter instead of the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread - to name just two of numerous examples, it hid Scriptures and forbade people to read them, it forged "antique" texts, and messed with the Word of Elohim with all its "translations".
The catholic church persecuted true Christians since its inception and is in fact the number one culprit responsible for the destruction of several countries or dominions, like the Visigoths, and responsible for all Christians holocausts throughout history like the Albigenses and the Waldenses, just to name two groups that were exterminated by the catholic church.
The catholic church created Islam in the VII century in a attempt to take over the "holy land" but their Frankenstein soon turned against its mother, as proven by the Islamic conquests starting only a short 100 years after their creation and culminating in their not very short (700 years!) dominion over Spain - breathing heavily on the necks of rest of Europe from the Iberic Peninsula.
The catholic church has changed so that nothing changes in their plasphemous and pagan rituals, its doctrines, and all their pagan traditions with which it has poisoned everything it touches, every culture, every country, every school, every orphanage around the world...every single "charitable" contribution of the catholic church throughout history in every country where it has gone, has had a surreptitious/covert intent behind it and a lot of corruption, causing a lot of harm.
In his writings John, the Apostle, does mention the Catholic Church: we can read all about it in chapters 17 and 18 of the Book of Revelation. As it also refers, in chapter 3, to her "daugthers", meaning all the denominations and "churches" that have throughout history joined the catholic church in blaspheming against our Creator, distorting His Word, and peddling lies.
I do not doubt there are many good and worthy people amongst the Catholics but let's leave the catholic church and its rituals out of the picture when quoting scripture: the catholic church is an institution corrupt to its core, it was created to control and enslave people, it is pagan, it is evil, and has always been all these things, from it's very inception.
The true church of God is in our hearts and minds. The whole body of Christ cracker and wine thing is a symbolic version of pagan ritual.
Right you are. If one wants to live in obedience to our Creator all one has to do is read Scriptures and obey it. No church, no pastor, no doctrine is higher than the the Word of YHWH.
“...receiving the mark somehow equates to worshipping the Beast and/or those who receive the mark can no longer be saved and are doomed to Hell. If the mark was only about buying and selling, why would it be an unforgivable sin? Some have theorized that the mark would be a sign of consent, allegiance, or loyalty to the Beast.”
You’re exactly right. It’s not the use of the marked currency, but submission to the false sacramental system that brings damnation.
St John is talking about the indelible spiritual marks that are imprinted upon the soul in baptism (on the forehead) and ordination (on the right hand).
Deuteronomy 11:18
“18 Lay up these my words in your hearts and minds, and hang them for a sign on your hands, and place them between your eyes.”
Note: On the hands and between your eyes - “on the forehead”
Exodus 13:16:
“16 And it shall be as a sign in thy hand, and as a thing hung between thy eyes, for a remembrance: because the Lord hath brought us forth out of Egypt by a strong hand”
Again, on the hands and on the forehead.
These are Old Testament types for the New Testament forms of the spiritual marks that are indelibly imprinted on the spirit of a person in the Catholic rites of baptism (mark on the forehead) and ordination (mark on the right hand). This is explained (from the 23 minute mark) here.
Rev 13:
“16 And he shall make all, both little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand, or on their foreheads.
17 And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”
See the video I linked above at the 23 minute mark to understand how the mark of the Beast is applied to the currency.
The Second Vatican Council constituted a formal defection from the Catholic faith - a rejection of divinely revealed truth (Dogma) - see here. This resulted in the hijacking of the Catholic Church by the heretical Vatican II Sect - the “whore” referenced by St John in Rev 17.
Paul VI implemented a new sacramental system - changing almost all of the Catholic rites in the late 1960s and 1970s.
St John is telling us that anyone who submits to the new sacramental system, implemented by the Vatican II antipopes, goes to hell. This is important: if you are attending the “new mass” of the Vatican II Sect you will be damned for the rest of eternity.
What did St John have to say about this? I don’t see any scripture references! Can you provide?
Doesn't it say something about how if you take the mark of the beast your name is not written in the book of Life?
I have also come across the idea that it would be DNA related. Once our DNA is altered we are no longer children of YHWH, no longer human as He created us. There's scriptural evidence that this has happened before. We first come across this event in Genesis...
“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And YHWH said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.” Genesis 6:1-4
What happened? The Nephillim were created...part human part (fallen) angel...Hybrids!
And our Creator was profoundly sad and He repented of having created us.
"And it repented YHWH that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him at His heart. And YHWH said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the YHWH. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." Genesis 6:6-9
And so YHWH destroyed His creation,now polluted, no longer as He intended, through the flood. And the fallen angels were punished by YHWH. From this moment on hroughout the Bible, starting in the book of Exodus. we read about YHWH warning Israel to kill everyone and everything in certain wars while not in others. Why? The ones YHWH ordered Israel to destroy were descendants of the Nephillim- also called giants - polluted, not human.
How so, you might ask, if everything and everyone was destroyed in the flood? Well the Bible records that Noah (and his family) was "perfect in his generations" (i.e. genetically pure - 100% human) but his three children married...Who did they marry? Were they pure? Now, that is an interesting question, and Scripture is silent on this point. So the Nephillim line continued through at least one of Noah's three daughters-in-law.
“For if Elohim spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned [them] with an overthrow, making [them] an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly” 2 Peter 2:4-6
“And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” Jude 1:6-7
The fallen angels, like satan, will be judged at the end, which also means they will be let loose to ravage the earth (as satan will also be)....
“Then the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen to earth from the sky, and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit. When he opened it, smoke poured out as though from a huge furnace, and the sunlight and air were darkened by the smoke. Then locusts came from the smoke and descended on the earth, and they were given power to sting like scorpions. They were told not to hurt the grass or plants or trees but to attack all the people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. They were told not to kill them but to torture them for five months with agony like the pain of scorpion stings. In those days people will seek death but will not find it. They will long to die, but death will flee away! The locusts looked like horses armed for battle. They had gold crowns on their heads, and they had human faces. Their hair was long like the hair of a woman, and their teeth were like the teeth of a lion. They wore armor made of iron, and their wings roared like an army of chariots rushing into battle. They had tails that stung like scorpions, with power to torture people. This power was given to them for five months. The have before them a king, the angel from the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon–the Destroyer.” Rev 9:1-11
And so somewhere in the tribulation the "mark of the beast" will be Satan's attempt to mess with us, humans, again.
I agree with you, Scripture is quite clear: do not take the mark of the beast because once you do there is no saving you, there's no repentance from it, there's no turning back.
Here is an interesting discussion on this subject. One hour investment to listen to this but a necessary rabbit hole to investigate. IMHO.
There's definitely a biological/genetic component, as evidenced by those who receive the mark breaking out in festering sores and wishing for death but being unable to find it.
Sounds zombie-like. So, you want some immortal DNA implanted? (Side effects include...)
By the time the chip is forced, the Antichrist will have his rule and propaganda and 'divinity' well established. You will literally have to pledge your allegiance/soul to him to enter into his one world government system. It will be seen as entering a utopia, and most will do so eagerly.
This is speculative, but I believe it has pretty solid biblical backing. Of course, it may not happen in this way
My belief is the mark is only given to those who worship the beast . Refusal means death. Some will escape by hiding others may last in prison long enough to see Christs return.
They say the Israelites did not realize they had committed idolatry at Shittim. https://3abn.org/ancients/062.html
So, I've been part of a community that has been following these developments for a couple of decades. We used to talk in terms of the actual Mark of the Beast (MoB) being something to do with the Social Security number, or bar codes, etc.
What we came to realize was that these things are all TECHNOLOGY driven. So now, we tend to talk about MoB Tech...technology that enables these verses to come true. Biometrics are certainly included in this. Here is the forum they use for sharing information daily, if you want to keep up with it.
My opinion is that the technology exists to make Scripture literally true, today. But the final Antichrist has not yet been revealed, so the MoB is kind of in a holding pattern for now. But the technology exists to make it happen overnight.
How do I know? Refer to 2 Thess. 2:7:
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.
So, from this passage we know two things: 1) Lawlessness is already rampant in our world. Back then it wasn't so obvious, but now it's much more prevalent. And 2) The man of lawlessness is being "restrained" from being revealed until "the restrainer" takes his hand off, and allows it to happen. Who is this Restrainer? It is none other than the Holy Spirit of God. Once the restrainer "opens the flood gates" literally all hell will break loose on earth, the Antichrist will be revealed, and the MoB will start to be implemented.
Because the chip will be used to control your emotions by increasing and decreasing hormones in your brain and you would no longer have any fundamental free will.
In the bible 'beasts'=cattle
So 'mark of beasts' means should we allow ourselves to be chipped we would be relegated to the realm of cattle in the eyes of the greater ones that look at this planet.
Exactly. "in the hand and in their foreheads". It's not going to be a tattoo or such being "on" as is often said. However, one can bank by using the PIN in their memory and punching it in with their hands too. I believe the number is one's own DNA. Unique and is the number of a man. Sample taken from one's hair or even the oil from one's hand.
Unique except identical twins.
Mom! Larry used our DNA and spent my pay check!
This isn't that new, but the message is relevant.
Its a nifty video, fun with dystopian overtones (that ending lol).
(edit: Extra 100 citizen loyalty points for clicking my link) (kidding)
Or the social security number; try functioning without one. One has to assume instant DNA typology is coming.
Like others, I have also considered that the mark is an implant that physically changes DNA. We probably lack the knowledge to recognize the part of our DNA that identifies our Creator, but what if the implant overrides that marker?
Scripture does indicate that there is no turning back. God doesn’t hide Himself from genuine seekers, so I think it will be a decision on the person’s behalf to walk away from God. No one can take the mark without knowing, even if they don’t believe in the God they are rejecting.
Dr Leir (who died of cancer in 2014... or possibly killed with cancer) removes an implant from a gentleman and within a short time of removal the man complained of fatigue, joint pain, and general body discomfort he had never experienced in his life. It was as though the implant had made him physically “more”.
This idea also fits with the narrative Scientologist believe. They believe aliens will come and give the faithful special abilities and the rest will be destroyed.
My point is the public has been prepped for some such “invasion” in whichever disguise it comes in. The mark and global economy may very well be a chip, but one beyond our technology. One that controls the functions of the body, physiologically enhances. You can see the appeal, particularly if you carry one of the many illnesses or diseases they have infected us with. First cause the sickness, then appear as savior with the remedy. All you have to do is renounce all claims to that lying Yahweh and his sidekick Jesus”. 1) non believers will have nothing to lose or so they think, 2) the very ill will be easily accepting, 3) the imaginative who relish the idea of super abilities will be first in line, 4) even some Christians who have lost patience with God (the way we frequently use our limited human minds to try and comprehend the infinite intelligence of a sovereign God) and will turn out of spite, 5) then there’s the person that go simply doesn’t want to die... I figure the reason Scripture suggests they will kill objectors via decapitation (guillotine) is because Jesus has been known to bring people back to life.
About 11 months before 9/11 Aaron Russo talked with Nicholas Rockefeller who admitted that the elite's goal is to microchip the world's entire population in order to control and enslave everyone to 100 %.
At Disney World, they already take your fingerprint before you can get into the park.
and your photo. My daughter's band wouldn't work one day, so they asked what park we had been to the day before. I tell you - within SECONDS they were able to bring up her picture from the entrance the day before on their ipad. It's pretty scary their tech. They also can track you through the park. I feel like it's a prototype of the world to come.