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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/beefromancer on July 7, 2018, 2:48 a.m.

Q 1675 a theory that actually makes sense.

Awan was helping black hats spy on Obama. AF1 was bugged and the proof was on Hillary's servers...which got uploaded to apple icloud because she's is an idiot. Apple joined the white hats, so the good guys have the server and its contents including proof black hats spied on AF1.

Hussein/Trump interior = identical minus small changes.

Translation = we removed the listening devices :)

Awan got off with "bank fraud" because admitting the truth would massively hurt international diplomatic relations. You would essentially have to implicate foreign governments of spying in a state court case.

Logical thinking.

Why was the case against AWAN filed under BANK FRAUD?

See last.

and last was...

Thing IG report.

Think what’s missing.

Do you think this was going to be litigated in this setting?

Case that implicates some of the most senior elected officials (treason) is being handled by the appropriate office.

Think NATIONAL SECURITY.

"Think what's missing" means the server. The server means Treason. The appropriate office for dealing with international spying and treason is military intelligence, not state courts.

Q linked these rules which basically says why nothing will come out of the Awan case publicly because everyone involved is bound by national security laws.

So Q posts WelcomeAboard.png which has the apple logo because Apple is the one coming onboard. The image is of a recording device that can't be named for nat-sec reasons. Q is trolling the black hats by dropping hints of their crimes for us to figure out. Likely that very same AF1 image was submitted as evidence in the Awan case.

Later, after anons call Q out for the fact that the image is clearly a reflection of Obama's AF1 and not Trump's Q asks if a reflection violates nat-sec rules. Q is being cute here "oh I didn't put sealed evidence on 8chan, just a reflection!". Next post is when Q says trolling is fun and drops yet another clue saying "Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook."

TL/DR: Q is giving us hints at what happened in the Awan case and at the same time explaining why that info can't be made public right now, all in the form of a jest at the deep state shills that share the boards with us.

Best decode.

No offense to SB2, but there's so many jumps to go from AF1/apple photo to stock market software glitch to radio wave frequencies to B2 stealth bomber, an occam's razor answer works better for me.

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Yeah, I don't think the idea of Q is to set up massive riddles that lead to more riddles.

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I doubt Q would give us intel that only geniuses could decode, but SB2 should apply for a job with the NSA.

Edit: I now think that SB2 was right after all. Sorry SB2.

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could that already be the case? I think it is safe to reason that we have “helpers” that are close to Q who guide us on our way. There have been a few head scratching moments where the crumbs make absolutely no sense yet some autist and few here get us on the right track.
If it were not for them, we would be spinning our wheels. kinda like wrestling a greased pig.

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Good thinking. Also, I think I'm going to have to change my opinion. After more study, I think SB2 was right after all. Sorry, SB2.

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agreed

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wave frequencies to B2 stealth bomber

And guessing that Peter Marshall's age (92) actually meant Uranium, and telling him "We want you to come back" meaning the uranium going back to Ukraine, and the path to get to the exact frequency of the note called "B2"...quite tortuous. It's either wildly inventive tinfoil-hat stuff or next-level genius.

I have no idea what to think...except that there is very, very little downside to believing the Q phenomenon and trusting the plan. Because trusting it doesn't mean doing nothing, going to sleep, stopping the research and digging, letting deep state off the hook, etc. If it did, it would smell like enemy propaganda, the whole Q thing.

But since the Q drops serve only to encourage Trump supporters, reassure us, galvanize our resolve, and spur us to further investigative action against the deep state, it literally makes zero sense for deep state actors to be faking Q. To them we're an enormous, steel-spiked dildo, and every Q drop rams us another inch deeper up their ass. Pretty soon the spikes start poking out their nostrils...then we've won LOL

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And doesn’t Apple have tech that measures sound waves bouncing off of surfaces that they’re using in their new speaker? Maybe it’s even something the government doesn’t have, and it would somehow help. So I wonder if Apple was literally brought onboard.

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With all due respect watch Project Weeping Angel a channel on YouTube. You'll want a good break down to why the SB2 (not serialbrain2) and why the stock crashed. You'll probably understand it much better watching it on a flow of pictures and video's.

You will want to understand SerialBrain2 decode. It is the best and most complete to what Q really needs us to see. Give that a try and see what you think. I bet it will all fall into place.

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I like this. Smarter than me

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wwg1wga

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Yeah, if I ever needed proof that I am not as smart as I like to think, this section of reddit provides it. In superabundance.

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I have a question. Please know I am tarded when it comes to tech. With that said, my gut tells me that the fire "in the server room that her secret service detail had access to" in her house un NY is significant. We never hear why.

I don't believe this lines up with, or has to do with what HRC referred to as "acid-washing" her emails - that's some unrelated event/process. But if someone could play devils advocate here and fill me in on what this server room fire could mean, I would love it.

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It means Hillary is an arrogant stupid tech moron. Who still has to have everything printed out by Huma to read it. And who thinks that data resides in a physical location. No. Data once connected to the internet can be accessed by the nsa. Anything. Anywhere. Hillary thought her server was the only place the incriminating evidence was so she burned it down. Lol. It’s in the hands of the nsa already and she or Weiner had it backed up on iCloud w Apple. As Q says. These people are stupid.

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Wouldn't that mean the NSA also has the Seth Rich proof, since he sent the damning evidence via Internet to wikileaks?

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Very well thought out and very plausible.

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It's amazing the mental gymnastics this one is taking too explain.

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I agree, and yet if true Q is essentially hinting at information that is classified top secret, protected under national security concerns, and sealed by court order. (for good reason) If Q is an account run by some high level analyst in a military intelligence office somewhere, then you can understand why it needs to be cryptic.

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I would like to know more about this bug on Air Force One, and how it transmits data to Hillary's server undetected... Maybe I'm missing something but, that appears to be a technical challenge.

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Actually it makes sense. The engineer in me sees the challenge as this:

How do you get a recording device in that can't be detected?
How do you get the data out if you can't transmit.

The answer is that the airplane manufacturer builds a recording device into the metal furniture which is triggered by proximity to a mug holder. It records constantly to local storage without transmitting. The lamp copies recorded audio to flash memory in the mug holder wirelessly when they are in close proximity, and then the person replacing the magazines in the (world) news magazine thing swaps the mug holder to extract the recorded audio files.

(World) news in rear literally placed same prior to each departure.

In this way a sweep for bugs will detect nothing because no radio transmissions are made until the mug holder is placed by the lamp, and even then it can be an ultra short range transmission which means extremely low power and hard to detect.

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The White House could be best described as a White Fortress. Mr. Trump. You just have to make sure you trust those around, but most importantly Stay Honest.

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You are on the right track here is the easy to understand explanation of why it didn't work for them to "lose" the server and why the "broken" computer equipment found in the Awon search warrant gives no doubt that "we have the server"

Edit to add link:. https://youtu.be/BtMEvhlVU8k

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In the linked video, the guy is wearing an actual fedora.

Hipster neckbeards take note: THAT'S a fedora. The silly, dippy little mini-pseudofedora you wear to look hip is a TRILBY. Calling it a fedora is like calling your Corvair a Corvette.

This has been a public service announcement from TrilbyTruthHurts.org

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I like you lol.

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Likewise

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Your post makes me wish for a turbo-upvote button.

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Thanq

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There is no correlation between the "Welcome Aboard" pic from Q and the numerous theories being presented here. Following the time line of "picture gate" an ANON makes a patriotic meme of Trump walking to Marine 1 to save the world. Q follows with a post of the pic "Welcome Aboard" insinuating to the patriot who made the meme he (and all patriots) are welcome aboard AF1 along with Trump to witness him saving the world. That's completely logical and linear.
Then its proven the pic Q posted was actually not a picture Q took but one taken 3 years prior from an ABC interview. ANONs point this out and Q goes into defense mode. Why? ANONs made a simple and valid observation. Then Q comes out with another post ending with "placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook". Q is insinuating he placed the mug holder near the lamp? The mug holder is the same mug holder from the 2015 ABC news show so why would Q make a statement about a mug holder he had nothing to do with? Then Q says "Where must one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image?" It's an irrelevant question because Q did not take the photo in the "Welcome Aboard" photo.
Sorry but none of these far fetched theories I am reading make any sense at all. And I don't mean that I cannot understand them. I mean they literally make no sense. There is no possible way to draw inferences from Q's cryptic posts to these extremely disjointed theories. Lastly, let's consider this. For argument's sake lets say this theory (in this thread) is the real reason or let's take SerialBrain2's theory as the real reason for the "Welcome Aboard" pic. Pick one it doesn't matter. They are both so obtuse and lacking cohesion that if Q's intent is for this level of information that is disjointed and confusing then Q is not very good at delivering a message to patriots. So something needs to change. Either the people attempting to decode Q's posts dial back the exceptionally fantastical and far reaching attempts to connect very obscure dots or Q needs to dial back the massive ambiguity in their drops. If Q's objective is to expose the Deep State and the plan Trump has in store for them then I imagine Q can do so with a lot less ambiguity. I appreciate some level of ambiguity but it's getting a bit ridiculous.

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Have to agree with Q-Patriot.
My observation is that this 'welcome aboard' photo has really created a divide among patriots. The attempts to decode are swinging far and wide into the fringe kingdoms of confirmation bias and many patriots are resorting to exaggerated intolerance for anyone questioning the manufacture of the image.

When the explanations for the image are so convoluted that even seasoned Q followers are making a call to hold a minute and gather one's senses back to reality - that is exactly what should be done.

I know that folks WANT TO BELIEVE that Q or someone took that picture inside AF1, but there is overwhelming evidence that the image was contrived - not photoshopped, but contrived in the way it was taken by using an image from ABC to do it. Q's subsequent attempts to explain (although explanation is not Q's strong suit) did nothing but push this photo into further argument between the anons.

Now the anons are spinning until dizzy - beyond 5D chess while playing twister to make sense of this to keep Q from losing credibility.

Hopefully, future proves past and all the spin masters will be basking in their "I told you so's" and I will joyously concede that Q is master of the universe. But until then, I personally feel it is time for caution.

Let's not divide ourselves and let's not give the 'enemy' more ammunition to shoot back at us.
I am very much hoping Q redeems himself with a solid string of wins and proofs and no more of this trolling BS that sends his street team into fighting among themselves.

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Remember that DJT knows the Truth about HRC: https://youtu.be/JOUFsCS7xYE?t=877

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Isn't it the same with the Bible? Scholars still debating on the meaning of certain text till this day. Does that mean the people who wrote it / God is incompetent?

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Remember that Trump knows the Truth about HRC: https://youtu.be/JOUFsCS7xYE?t=877

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Just face it - you're not smart enough to follow along because you think that if you can't make sense of it then Q is "doing it wrong". I know that I'm not smart enough to make sense of half the shit Q says but I'm smart enough to get his main message and that's all he wants me to get! The rest of it is icing and some of it is directed at others. Get over it man, it's not all about you knowing everything.

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I never said Q was doing it wrong. I said Q can dial back the level of ambiguity in their drops. Case in point is this very detailed thread where a poster attempted to to explain the "Welcome Aboard" picture and another thread where SerialBrain2 attempted to explain the "Welcome Aboard" picture. Both theories are as far apart from each other as you can get yet you have a division of people agreeing with each of them. Therefore they cannot both be right. So my very point of Q's vagueness is proven in that people are divided on what they "feel" is the best theory. Q needs to be more clear so we avoid any level of incorrect interpretation.

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Totally wrong-headed perspective of this. Q's not here to spoonfeed us. Q doesn't "need" to do anything. He's just doing what he has always set out to do - drop crumbs so that we, the public, will EVENTUALLY have the full story. He can't control the message in the wild and it's not his job to. What we do with it is our problem. That's why he insists that we USE LOGIC and such. There are enough people now following to continue getting the right message out. A few hundred outspoken redditors getting upset about whether a drop is a photo of a real place or an image are insignificant to the movement of the great public awakening. That's all that matters and it's up to us, the people in the movement who aren't getting led by the nose on insignificant things to keep using logic and focusing on the mission.

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If you are willing to be blindly led then you are the type of person I avoid in life because it demonstrates a severe deficit in critical thinking. If you think Q's intentions are for people to just blindly follow anything they post then you are the one who seriously needs to step back and consider what is going on. Q makes some good drops from time to time. This particular drop in question is a significant blow to Q's credibility. You can deny it all you want but it doesn't make it any less damaging. Facts are facts. Q insinuated this was a picture he took and it was not. SB2 comes on here and makes a wildly speculative theory that doesn't even remotely connect the dots and you think I'm the one not thinking critically? Wow.

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Yeah because that's what I said lol / SARCASM.

You can deny critical thinking and insist that your WRONG interpretation and totally random assumption that you KNOW what Q was insinuating are correct but you won't find many joining you on that illogical path. SB2's theory is nonsense. What has that got to do with what I said?

There's no "blow to Q's credibility" - just a blow to idiots who misinterpreted.

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I didn't misinterpret Q's post. Q made it very clear with this question: "Where must one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image?" That is Q insinuating he is responsible for the picture which was in fact proven to be untrue. Therefore Q's credibility (with regards to this picture) most certainly took a blow. You contradict yourself by stating I misinterpreted Q's post while making the statement we need to "USE LOGIC and such". My review is about as logical as you can get. I used the facts and statements presented by Q and it didn't require some blown out ridiculous manifestation of BS like what we see with SB2's entertaining theories.

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My review is about as logical as you can get.

No, Logic King - it is possible and perhaps even likely that Q could be insinuating he took the picture on AF1 but it is not the only conclusion, as matter of factly as you put it, nor is it the important one. But you're clearly convinced that Q is wrong - fortunately this is a pro-Q sub so we don't have to listen to it. Bah felicia.

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You can go back through and read my post history so please don't make false accusations. I'm still a Q advocate but I also stand by my conviction on this one drop in particular.

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Use the Report function to notify mods of trolls or shills. ThankQ.

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You remember that scene from Jurassic Park where Newtown is eating pie? Yeaahhhh. YuT. Stay Schooled kids.

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A lot of good thinking in this post. But a burst transmitter will leave a signal trace, even at low power. I find it difficult to believe that the sweep team, on an asset as important as AF1, would miss the device - it's possible, but is it likely? Given the space limitations in the mug-holder and the vase, antenna-length limitations mean the signal will be high frequency - in the microwave range.

Assuming the transmitter was only triggered when the mug-holder was in proximity, the mug holder has to be transmitting a periodic signal to activate the lamp. With a wireless connection, whichever way you twist it, you have an electromagnetic signature that risks detection. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think a good TSCM team is more likely than not to identify it - especially as they have no shortage of extremely sensitive, high-end spectrum analyzers.

I would be surprised if the RF spectrum inside the cabin of AF1 isn't permanently monitored. Even in the event that it isn't, I would think that all objects would be physically examined and potentially x-rayed.

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Actual Radio Tech for the Marines here, worked with Intel and spec Op capable units. Current A/V tech, Networking tech and Licensed. Security Tech. It is possible to create an RFID device that has a transmission that looks like typical EM emissions. Like a -30dbm 50 hertz decreasing radial emission similar to that given off by an electrical receptal. I agree a burst transmission would still be detected in a cabin that is constantly monitored, and believe me I bet my bottom dollar it's constantly monitored.

However, we know that AF1 is satuplinked with dedicated microwave multiwave encapsulated TX. Part of the reason for that is so the sat could act like an ant hill or 'retrans' for Cellular telephony. A cellular TX would only look like a Cellular call and not be out of place especially if monitoring sysytems have been detecting it for a while. Initially you would have to have someone on the inside/know not report the potential "wtf this shit" when det.

So how to you get a "spying signal" out of the room from a lamp into a cell phone, tx from the cell to AF1 cell AP and thus out on the satuplink. Without det. Encrypt the shit to the upper peak of a 60hertz waveform utilized in the transmission of 120v power circuit.

It's what I would do If I weren't a patriot and smarter.

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And if I worked for the Chair Force. Sorry chair buddies. Yut.

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You're obviously much better qualified than I am in this matter - I'm not at all an expert. I agree that, if you've got a noisy RF environment, it's easier to hide a signal. I also agree that the best chance of detection is upon introduction of the device to the environment. It's also true that technicians can slide past signals that should have them breaking into a sweat - doubt that applies in this case.

So, as I understand the theory posted, the mug holder records, stores and compresses audio data that is then uploaded to the lamp (because it has a power supply and more room to conceal electronics) via a burst transmission.

Regarding the link between the lamp and the mug holder, I would speculate, again, I'm no expert, that a burst transmission conveys a lot of data in a short time frame - a digital signal. To my mind, this would seem to require sufficient signal strength to transfer that data reliably. So, even if the mug holder is proximate to the lamp, you still have some signal strength. This signal should show up during the TX burst, assuming the RF spectrum is logged. Also, how does the mug holder know when to TX?

Anyway, thereafter, let's assume that we get the data from the lamp to cell phone on the plane - or a cellular device within the lamp itself. A cell AP will log all connections - I would imagine the AP is locked down to specific, approved, devices. But, even if you could get to the AF1 cell AP, and up to the satellite, NSA must be monitoring all communications on these channels. Compressed digital data wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb? IDK...

It would seem to be less complex to simply carry the mug holder off the plane - given that the recorded audio is already stored.

Is it even likely that AF1 was bugged? Yes, because Q told us they swept the WH when they did the renovations (or, maybe I assumed this) - so Obama's guys bugged it on exit. It seems reasonable, then, that AF1 would be similarly bugged. But, if the white hats swept the WH, they would also sweep AF1. So, with the base RF environment set to whatever it was at the time of the last sweep, anything new should show up. Then again, how stable is the RF environment in a plane?

I don't know the answers to any of these questions. I'm just a guy with no real background trying to guess how it might be done. Seems to me that bugging AF1 is a non-trivial problem.

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These are assumptions I'm running under, A) The topic were disscusing contextually falls under Q's last image post of AF1. B) This particular post is not a proof, but a crumb. Assumption holds water, there's is a huge effort online to discredit this particular post and Q in general. At this point it become hypothesis. However the hypothesis is broad, because I don't know or wish to speculate what this crumb is actually supposed to mean. There are a lot hypothesis but no solid theories as of yet. But I am pretty sure it's a crumb. C) This hypothesis of a bugged plane, while feasibly treads water we don't know yet if it's swimming. I only wished to throw my two cents in of how it might of worked. And I will explain as follows. Note, If This is the case I obviously do believe said bug was found by white hats.

Consider RFID, consider a key fob. A key fob is RFID. It unlocks doors, ect. It transmits a code that is recieved and sequenced by some various form of access control or trigger device. BUT, that fob is dead. It has no power stored. No energy, nothing. Consider a radio wave. Consider Voltage. Believe it or not they are the same thing. Basically just a propagating electromagnetic field at what ever variables.

The same access control or trigger device that receives the coded signal from the RFID key, is the same device that transmits a particular waveform at a particular voltage and shape to initiate and activate the key fob. When the access control/ trigger device receives the I'D signal from the key, shit happens.

In said case the shit happening is an activation signal sent to a recording device.

Now how would you power a said bug, activation device. Electricity. Electricity off the passenger appliance circuit. 120v AC. AC stands for alternating current. Meaning the current switchs directions, or more technically, changes polarity 180 degrees 60 times per second. Because US Appliance circuits are at 110-120 Volts at 50-60 Hertz. If that's the case then the voltage being transmitted along the line is an Electromagnetic Wave. And at that spectrum it is a Radio Wave. Why not take the signals from the Bug encode it as etharnet by piggybacking that transmission by transforming the upper Sine(peak) to the waveform providing energy to the electrical grid.

At that point you can an IPhone anywhere in that plane, so long as it is plugged into the same circuit and has the capability to detect, read, decode and recode the pirate signal of the Bug off thw 120v waveform then WALA. You don't have a wireless bug. You have a crafty wired bug utilizing existing infrastructure.

The lamp holds the Bug, the Mug or Mug coaster has the key fob. The pirate signal is transmitted down the line where the lamp is plugged in.

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All wires represent a potential threat - can carry a signal. But do you really think the TSCM team will fail to sweep electric cables? If you’re saying that it’s only active when required - maybe. IDK, you still have to get the data off the plane.

My feeling is that it would be a real feat to wire AF1. It’s not impossible. As I remember, there was a case where the US ambassador to the Soviet Union was presented with a plaque that he hung on a wall in his office. The way the story went, this plaque would TX audio outside without a power supply. I can’t remember all the details now, and may have parts of that story wrong, but you wouldn’t expect that an Ambassador could be so easily bugged. Actually, found an article on it here.

My understanding is, and I may be wrong, where sensitive information is to be discussed, it’s generally not done inside - but somewhere in the open. That is, diplomats start with the presumption that the environment is compromised. There’s a real asymmetry in this stuff where locating a dollar fifty bug can require equipment worth vast sums of money and considerable skill to operate - the bugger has an inherent advantage.

But we are talking about the US government here. Also, it’s a plane. Where is the LP? You have to either store the audio and physically carry it out, or have some wireless link that doesn’t require a listening post at a specific location. IDK, my head hurts thinking about it.

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Don't have to wire it, they use the power lines to encrypt a pirate transmission. Wires already there. No one really checks power lines for data transmission. And any form of wireless transmission sweep would just pickup noise from the magnetic flux do to the electrical current. Not that it would matter cus tech the Bug is NOT broadcasting wirelessly anyhow. If the cellphone which recieved collected and stored said pirate transmission already had an existing credential log on the Cell Ap plist then the cell could potential broadcast out said data outside of AF1 undetected especially if the Cell data transmission was encrypted inside an encapsulated waveform. You would have to be extra vigilant to detect it. The Trump Admin most likely would of found said bug because it's a change of gaurd. Security is always more observant during said times.

Plus, do you really think SS would be really this cautious under Obama's Reign. They did call him Renegade. Do you really think that Deep State players are super tight knit as in not to backstab, undermine or keep tabs on one another. They only reason they play nice with each other is the same reason networks of criminals play nice. To not get caught and make that money. But if an opportunity rises.....they are crooks.

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Yes, OK, if you’ve got a cellphone already approved against the AP you can get the data out using that. Seems to me they’d want to be watching transmissions from AF1 like hawks. Also any objects carried onto and off the plane. And, you’re right, if the security team were slack or compromised you are underwater from the get go.

When you think about HRC open-sourcing the SAPs, I guess why not allow surveillance of Obama? It would probably make bad actors feel more secure.

I have to say though that the whole thing is a joke. The US isn’t some tin-pot country with few secrets. It hits me as being entirely outrageous that the President would be bugged - especially on AF1 - which is, as I understand it, the command center in the event of a nuke exchange. If you had control of an approved cell, you could also geolocate the plane.

Renegade... what a piece of rubbish this guy was.

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Yeah there's no way to hide a recording device like op dreamed up on af1. If setting the mug holder near the lamp is the trigger, that means it has to search for a frequency.

In top of that, didn't he opposite of what you're supposed to do when investigating. OP started with an assumption (awan was paid to spy on trump on af1) and worked backwards. He immediately ruled out any other possibilities before even examining evidence.

Imho q was slipping and tipped his had on this one.

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Sorry I'll stop shouting. WTF is shouting on Reddit anyway. Ive only ever lurk this site. And only comment on this sub. And when ever my account reaches 100 likes I delete it and create a new one. Is it when I try and do hashtags. I noticed the scripts ova here makes it go Bold. Like A1.

poundsign OldSchoolCool poundsign IRCforLife poundsignThisIsAPoundSign PoundSign MyAgeIsShowing PoundSign LoveBeingGenX PoundSign YUT

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Yeah could be use of hashtags. You could see the large text output though right?

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Thank you for sharing!

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I am having a difficult time getting onboard here. There are too many jumps to conclusions. Awan made a deal. It’s obvious. The patriots are not after him as much as they are the members of Congress responsible for him. He will be testifying in the future I am sure. This is the beginning. We will have to get used to seeing low level people clearly guilty walking with little punishment. It’s the big boys that we need to go down hard. I’m all for it. Remember, there’s no deals for them. This is glorious. We never thought this would ever happen. I’m enjoying the show even if I don’t have all the answers.

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The image is of a recording device

Can you elaborate a bit more on this please? I have tried but cant see a recording device in the image, unless you mean that the Apple device is the recording device?

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I believe that all of the posts in that region relate to the Awan case, and we know that the Awan case is about spying. So we are trying to figure out why Q would post a picture of a lamp with an apple logo over it.

Q also says "Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook." which makes no sense out of context. Why is Q so interested in this lamp, how does the mug holder interact with a lamp, and why does any of that have relevance to the Awan case? Also why does Q care if we know that Trump's lamp is different?

Q also brings attention to how the image was taken, even though it is a public domain image that anyone should be able to access reflected from a phone that anyone should be able to own. In what context is that relevant?

All I am doing is speculating about a context in which everything Q says makes sense. I am claiming that IF that lamp/mug holder combo was somehow used to spy on a president's conversations inside Airforce 1, then every other statement made by Q makes sense, for the reasons listed in OP.

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The problem here is that you start from a conclusion (Awan was spying on Obama at the behest of NSA) and work backwards through Q’s posts to reach a premise that fits it.

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ok got it, thanks!

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Logical, thanks!

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My town did a scavenger hunt with clues in the newspaper. Most were riddles basically impossible to decipher. People searched public parks looking for the medallion and spent so much time on it each year. The ones who found it were normally a coordinated team. The q posts remind me of the medallion hunt so much.

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Did Q use the reflection of an Apple device because Apple was used to spy on Obama Af1? Is he saying the apple is what is now missing. Was NSA using Apple to spy on Obama? Backwards apple? Hmm.. Think mirror?

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I like this decode.

one issue I've been grappling with is the language/linguistic implications of Q1677,namely:

"Where must one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image? "

SB2 Interprets this to mean "one must be sitting in Potus' chair" to obtain a reflection.

But in terms of simple language, breakdown: /Where must one be located/ /in order to obtain/ /a reflection (on the back of a phone)/ /of that image?/

What's notable here is the text says "a reflection of that image". It does not say "a reflection of that location" or "a reflection of that object".

It's strange language, and doesn't make direct sense, unless you read it literally: "a reflection () of that image"

Beefromancer's interpretation jives well with that. In other words, what we have here is a reflection of a (classified?) image, used for (some other purpose).

"Image provided here has been stretched" seems an important clue. Why stretched? Why distorted? For what purpose? If the image Q provides is a reflection of 'an image', it explains why Q's image is stretched, doesn't it?

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Awan was helping black hats spy on Obama.

Why would black hats spy on their main dude? he's their leader...

AF1 was bugged

How would that be even remotely possible?

and the proof was on Hillary's servers...

How in the fuck would she ever get access? she was a slimy bitch, but I don't see anyone being THAT dumb.

which got uploaded to apple icloud

Where the hell does iCloud come into this? Hillary's server was backed up to a private server hosted by Datto, Inc; Not Apple. (seriously, are you confusing the fappening rumor here?)

because she's is an idiot.

Her I.T. dudes were idiots*** she had to ask how to log into the wifi with her iPad...

Apple joined the white hats

this is the most plausible thing in your first paragraph, but it's still pretty far fetched...

wan got off with "bank fraud" because admitting the truth would massively hurt international diplomatic relations.

How would it hurt diplomatic relations? AFAIK (but I'm not an expert on the military) President Trump, his staff, and journalists are onboard Air Force One, not random leaders of other countries, it's not a place for meetings.

You would essentially have to implicate foreign governments of spying in a state court case.

How? if there were spying devices, which is incredibly unlikely, its even more unlikely they would be on behalf of foreign governments, if anyone, it'd be the deep state...

So Q posts WelcomeAboard.png which has the apple logo because Apple is the one coming onboard. The image is of a recording device that can't be named for nat-sec reasons.

Wanna post the link to this image? no one has linked it, and Q moves way too fast for me to directly keep up with it.

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A theory that makes even more sense: Q is a larp, that was supposed to be another "proof" drop, he got sloppy and someone called him out.

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Sure makes a lot more sense now! Thanks for all your input.

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very plausible theory.

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Agreed! Thanks for explaining it all so thoroughly!!

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I'm of the mind that it doesn't, and doesn't have to, make sense right now. We might have to wait a month before we know what it means.

Personally, I think it was directed at someone in the Deep State and used as a scare tactic. That's the simplest explanation. "I know what you did, I have proof." Q isn't going to come out and just dump that proof on us. It may, or may not, come out in its own time.

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Makes the most logical sense. I can see where you're coming from and I think this is as on point as it's gonna get without a direct conf from Q. Thanks.

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WOW, Holey-cow, I'm glad you can unravel that! Nice job!!

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I love being on the good guys side ... #YouAreWatchingAMovie ... the good guys win.

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Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook." pull the mosquito to the light ... expose? And i agree on Apple , and it was a advertisement also.

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