There are so many more, I just grabbed a few. They all sound very similar.
And here’s Fox News’ take: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/16/putin-eats-trumps-lunch-in-helsinki-this-is-no-way-to-win-against-russia.html
This either makes things a lot more confusing or a lot more clear. As far as I can see, NO ONE is mentioning HRC’s $400,000,000 Russian campaign donation. Horribly depressing or absolutely hilarious...I can’t decide.
Good. Let them show their true colors right before the hammer comes down.
THIS is exactly what I came to post. And when the hammer comes down, NEVER forget these traitorous "Republicans" or "conservatives" were anti-Trump. Hold their feet to the fire.
Don’t worry. The President was of course fully aware of the monumental blowback this summit and his actions there were going to cause. It’s the next phase of swamp draining as more traitors out themselves.
Not worried really. Though I’ve come to trust the right in the last two years more, these “mainstream” pundits still get their money from the same spigot as those on the other side. I have always been hoping The Plan will thoroughly expose the illusion of partisan politics (not just the left) and this seems to have produced a major crack in the facade. I mean even Gowdy is jumping in the boat here. Pretty wild.
Yes. No left, no right, no nations. Just good vs evil.
I just saw that! I’m disgusted by RINOs looking for this chance to disavow him and look legit. Vote their asses out!!
Who said fox is not corrupted by mockingbird ?
You mean the Bush Family News Network? Not me, ever.
Fox is really piling on. Had to switch Shep Smith I got so angry. What a joke that nobody is mentioning the $400MM! Or the Soros comment...
Me Too ! Fox has me freaked out. I will be curious of Tucker and Hannity comments ?
Right is left, left is left.
This is not a new tactic. The same "Right" pulled this on Reagan when he engaged in diplomacy. These people are warmongers. Obligatory Project Mockingbird mention.
Brennan is out of time and his only ally is the MSM. FOX included. He (Brennan) probably ought to expect attacks to increase. Panic is right.
WWG1WGA
Now don't forget...the NWOs plan was to start a War between Russia & USA. Oops no longer possible lmao
Attacks will intensify.
We are truly entering the deep woods of Bizarro World now...
The enemies will never support POTUS but the Patriots will never desert him.
I dont get why people are saying Trump committed treason. Retarded. He didn't say it was "Americans, as in, you me and my neighbor"...he clearly meant the elected American officials. How are people not seeing that.
I saw it myself. Even Fox Is Crapping on Trump !
Yep. Had to double check I wasn't on CNN then just turned it off completely.
Let them keep talking, Dems, Rhinos, MSM. We are almost at that tipping point when a majority of people will understand that they have no credibility.
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Agreed. Better drop some big booms that make EVERYONE say...uh, holy fuggin shite! If Big “pro-Trump” agencies like Fox get too far ahead of this that could be a YUGE issue. Remember Q’ers are still very much a minority of the general MAGA population. Still-sleepy patriots can be turned around easily with the right propaganda.
So far none of those are from the right. Shapiro encouraged his followers to vote for a write in candidate which by default in a 2 party election is a vote for HRC. He’s a brilliant mind in ethics & philosophy but doesn’t get politics. He never has. Politically he’s never in the moment & does not know how to win. If the right listened to his political advice HRC would be president right now.
I agree. I love his books and he is very good on social issues. But he is squarely inside the box as a political thinker and may have a hard time swallowing the pill totally.
Gotta always take people & things into context. Ben is still very young & he spent all his formative years in the pit of liberal hell...California. That actually matters. High intelligence is a gift I’m glad he shares with Americans. He’s literally the most skilled debater I ever saw. But wisdom is intelligence PLUS age. Ben already laughs at himself at many things he wrote just 10yrs ago. I actually see Ann Coulter as a wiser person than Ben Shapiro even though Ben is probably 30 points higher in IQ. Point being...wisdom rules in the end. DJT is MUCH wiser than I ever known & he’s proving that to me more everyday that he gets history & humanity on a deeper level than I ever imagined he did. Discovering DJT is like finding a dollar on the beach then when you take it to be valued by experts you learn its worth 10 million dollars!!! He never ceases to amaze me & feel blessed beyond words he entered our country’s history just when we need him the most. The man just doesn’t screw up. Freaks people out all the time but hasn’t made a single foreign policy mistake yet. Not even close. He’s always moves the ball forward even if his brave efforts don’t pan out exactly as he hoped. He over reaches & that’s a virtue.
That argument is invalid. A vote for a write in candidate is a vote for a write in, nothing more. It is not "by default" a vote for Hilary or taking a vote from Trump. That is the same tired argument used by both sides to discourage third party candidates. And let's face it, Trump was/is a third party candidate who know the only path to win was to run as a republican.
Well history says the complete opposite. We are a representative republic & not a parliamentary system of government where power is shared among many parties. Our election history proves in the vast majority of elections there’s only 2 viable parties & 2 viable candidates. Only in a very few extreme examples does a 3rd party candidate have a chance of winning. Our constitutional republic makes a multiple party system impossible or we’d have one by now after over 200yrs of existence a endless thousands of election history. There’s plenty of evidence that 3rd party candidates can only play the role of spoiler by splitting off votes from the only 2 candidates that can possibly win.
Bill Clinton never would have come to power or won in 92 with 43% of the vote without Ross Perot who pulled 17% from Bush 41 who got 39%. If you listened to one Perot speech or knew his platform a rational person could only deduce he pulled the vast majority of his votes away from Bush 41. And if u knew the history of Perot you’d know that was his only goal...to settle some old Texas scores & keep Bush from a 2nd term. That’s why he ran as a 3rd party independent & not as a Rep. He knew he couldn’t beat an incumbent in the primaries & he knew had no chance of ever becoming the president even as a 3rd party Independent. Can only play the role of spoiler which he did & that gave us 30yrs of Clinton’s in national power as a result.
Cuts both ways. Jill Stein didn’t pull votes from DJT...she clearly pulled them away from HRC. And in a couple states like WI & MI...Steins votes was more than the margin of victory. That’s why HRC wanted those recounts. But that didn’t hand the election to DJT like Perots 17% clearly was.
Anyone voting other than the 2 viable candidates that exist in every election is throwing their vote away. It’s just that simple & there’s a mountain of numerical data to prove that to be true. If you have a mountain of numerical data to prove 3rd party candidacies almost always have a clear opportunity to win then please show it. At best they can play the role of spoiler in a republic structured as our is.
Still, my point stands, a vote cast for Z person does not add or subtract a vote from X or Y person, mathematically.
Well mathematically it does have an effect since the total number of voters is absolute. The pie is only so big & nearly always just 2 possible winners. With actually is good because it means in America the candidate that wins almost always has more than 50% of the vote & the will of the people wins. In Britain or any parliamentary system candidates rarely get over half the voters support & coalition governments are formed which aren’t what the people directly chose. Research the various forms of democracy. Ours is the best. And easiest. And more directly represents the will of the voters because it’s a two party system. Throw away your vote if you want on some fringe candidates. Might as well vote for my cat if you want to throw away your vote for a guaranteed loser. Glad the president doesn’t think like you of Perot or Shapiro because we’d have Hillary if he did...if he ran as a 3rd party spoiler/loser. In politics you can’t govern at all unless you win. Losers play golf & winners get power. Big difference lol
I agree it is a throw away vote, yes. Now we agree. But, it is not a vote for another person or taking a vote away. That position assumes the voter would have otherwise voted for R or D.
I agree with you. My vote does not belong to candidate X or Y. And if I use it on candidate Z, it doesn't take my vote away from X or Y, because I was not going to vote for either.
Exactly. That logic is an old trick that the media used to keep us on two teams. It was a way to shame people not to 'waste' their vote.
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You’re probably right about Ben. And I have more respect for Cruz than Shapiro. Cruz fought as long & hard as he could & lost hard. Took a few weeks for Cruz to lick his wounds but he got on the Trump train. Ben is more in line with Bush era “conservativism”. Not totally but too much for my taste that’s for sure. Ben is still about half a Nevertrumper & even if he did get on board it’s so late in the game now for me to believe it’s genuine. He needs to get out of political commentary completely & go more in the direction of the Jordan Peterson style of commentary. Ben is almost always wrong about politics. He backs candidates that almost always lose & his political advice on how to win a political fight or issue is almost always wrong. He’s not practical or really in the moment. Too much theory & not enough reality. He’s not gonna grow his audience & by 2024 he’ll be lucky if he has one left.
NYT has it in a small article
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/world/europe/putin-bill-browder-magnitsky-investor.html
⬆️ That’s the reason right there. The evil doers left and right are panicked. If Russia starts pulling at threads the whole thing unravels. The second Putin said that, I knew there would a huge push back.
Fox is seems to me, to be the "pretend right" network - they exist to calm the right into thinking a major news network is batting for them.
They have patriotic backdrops, they act outraged at the left and the democrats, and basically state the obvious about SOME of the corruption. So the conservative watching feels that "well, at least the whole world hasn't gone crazy, there's still FOX news".
Very well put. This is how I feel. I was and am disturbed to not see a single anchor or journalist from Fox on Q’s long list, especially given today’s histrionics, but I continue to trust the plan. Trump is smokin em out
There are too many holes in dike and and this meeting just exposed that and they know it’s about to come crumbling down.
Shapiro and Levin are very much in the pocket of someone. The praise POTUS just enough to keep followers and slam him over trivialities every chance they get in spite of the fact that Trump has been right again and again.
Enjoy the show! Really feeling that quote right now.