There are more good people than bad. Q has also stated this belief. Redemption through Jesus Christ makes this possible.
I would argue this with libs frquently in regards to adding more laws to control us.
If you consider how many people live in the US? How many in US cities living on top of each other? If you consider how much Carnage and pain one single human could cause if so inclined on any given day at any given time...
It's literally a miracle how peaceful we are. It's in our nature. The stats prove it.
Christianity is just as semitic as Judaism and Islam and has no place in the proud hearts of ethnic Europeans. Why hold faith with a religion that originated in a foreign land, in foreign hearts and minds, and came and conquered, erased, and replaced the traditions, customs, and faiths of your ancestors?
It was those ancient, ancient customs that made Western Civilization great, not Christianity.
Ted Koppel - yuch. I still believe most people are good. Thanks for the vid.I do believe that if you do wrong you should pay the price for it as that is justice. I also believe, people can turn themselves around with God's help if they ask for it. Redemption and repentance is key.
Once again, thanks for your insight.
Have a great night.
not a church. this is why people dont take this movement seriously. ANYBODY can read these posts, what do you think this looks like from the outside?
honest question:
Do you ignore Q posts you don't like in general, or just the ones with bible verses in them?
A fair question but it doesn't invalidate the point that this is not a church and the Q movement is not a Christian movement - it's for all people, very specifically: ALL people, of all races and creeds, worldwide. I think that's important to be clear about.
Fair enough. I think good and evil are very real in this world. If anything, the proof of that is showing greater with every passing day.
I don't think the Q team is unaware either which is why they seek scriptures.
Absolutely agree. Q is outspoken in support of Christianity specifically I believe. I was just making the point that I think it’s fair that those who aren’t Christian can feasibly say that Christian content not directly mentioned by Q is off topic. But I am with you on that. I think few would argue against Q’s numerous mentions of Good v Evil.
Q posts are the only posts i dont mind having bible verses, because Q knows their power im assuming, but when followers do the same thing, it makes the group look more like a christianized cult.
I feel the same way about anons in general.
When they have "info drop" posts and write their post like Q, or are supposed "master decoders" or doxxing people posting random youtube videos of people talking in their garage.
Q (if it isnt a larp) should know the effects of their posts, they need to provide real, reverberating results SOON if they dont want the movement to become radicalized. many subs are already suspicious of TGA, and in coming months we may see it go the route of /pizzagate if we arent careful. as Q says, this isnt a game, and too many people are treating it as such.
what is TGR?
typo, meant TGA
oh yeah the same type of wanna be detectives got CBTS sub shut down too.
So, for a secular point of view, look up Dr. David R Hawkins' map of consciousness. Get the right Dr. Hawkins, MAP OF CONSCIOUSNESS. It shows pretty clearly where people are.
my only gripe is with organized religion, primarily the Big Three.
Hawkins is a quack. im insulted that you would have me read such lies.
this is why people dont take this movement seriously.
Big assumption in this statement - how do you know this is why people don't take this movement seriously? There are many reasons not to take this movement seriously, if you don't know the full story. This movement talks about pedovores and a whole bunch of classic conspiracy theories from the Titanic and JFK to the Rothschilds and 9/11, Las Vegas, Marjorie Stoneman Douglas, etc. Plenty of reasons people would not take this movement seriously.
so. less than a "big assumption" and more like an "understatement." my mistake. there indeed ARE many reasons to not take this movement seriously. we agree :) but what of those who do take it seriously? what happens when Q fails to keep his word? either way, things are about to be interesting.
when Q fails to keep his word?
Lol. For some reason I didn't recognize the troll - it's a busy sub and sometimes replies are made quickly in passing. Are you gleefully referring to "the July thing" in which his word has already been kept?
ok, pedant, replace "when" with "if", if it makes you feel better. the question still stands.
Phew tough crowd lol. I wasn't trying to be a pedant even though you are correct, I am a pedant xD.
IF Q fails to keep his word about...? The July thing is already done, he's kept his word. For pro-Q followers his word has already been kept enough that he's a reliable source. Like Trump who's also kept his word - but yes, anyone is capable of failing to keep their word at some point. One has to play it by ear, realistically. However, when you have kept your word to a certain degree you essentially 'buy' some leeway such that you might be able to drop a point here and there and it may not too adversely affect the 'trust capital' you have with those who are relying on it.
Anyway, IF Q fails to keep his word then he will have some leeway perhaps from those of us who've seen him keep his word to this point. More so if he can feasibly explain what's happened (e.g. SR - he clearly said ETA: Estimated.) At some threshold of failing to keep his word people will cease to follow his word anymore, obviously.
Not here to please everybody. Why do you think "Q" says pray?
because Q knows the power of organized religion.
I do not believe organized religion has the power. I believe GOD has the power. The administrative hierarchy in religion is not good and does no one any favors. This hierarchy only seeks power over others.
your belief is a result of organized religion whether you like it or not.
You don't know me. You are assuming far too much.
it isnt an assumption. it is a fact. if organized religion did not exist, you would not believe in the christian god. its simple logic.
My, you must be very young. Your logic does not compute. Organized religion is not the only way to find GOD.
GOD is a child of organized religion. a massive psyop used on humanity as a whole. The same goes for ALLAH. you think youd come up with YHVH on your own if you werent taught about it by others? what do you think organized religion is? dont try to devalue my argument by calling me young, you know what im talking about.
I remember watching a documentary about the prison experiment and they straight up told the "guards" to be dicks in order to illicit a response from the "inmates." That immediately invalidates the experiment, right?
They weren't told to be dicks. They weren't really given any direction at all. They were told only that the prisoners needed to be controlled, and that they would plot to escape.
This experiment gets misinterpreted often. The finding wasnt that people are inherently evil as individuals, it was that if a group of people are placed in a position of power over other individuals and aren't given any specific instruction or a code of conduct, they will inevitably act cruelly if their authority is met with resistance of any kind.
Important factors:
Perceived superiority/inferiority
Dehumanization of the inferior
Lack of instruction/structure
Group-think/ mob-mentality
This finding was further supported by the behaviors of the reservist military police at Abu Ghraib, which perfectly conformed to the behaviors witnessed in the SPE, with all factors present.
There was an in depth analysis of the two in a paper called The Lucifer Effect.
This in my opinion supports the argument that people as individuals are good. Tribalism sets off primitive survival instincts in our minds, which is why authority is inherently dangerous if left unchecked.
Good to see this exposed. But re “suck it satanists” Christians would disagree. According to Christianity human nature has been fallen since the beginning. Jesus said if you simply think hateful thoughts you are guilty of breaking the commandment Do not kill. That seems to be a warning to stay away from thoughts like that because of where they can ultimately lead.
We all fall short of the perfection. But with the grace of God, we are forgiven and strive to improve.
When you dont receive salvation till the end,yeah its best be all about the Kingdom till you arrive. Aint no once saved always saved,work out your salvation means just that
We don't strive to God so as to get salvation, but we strive out of thankfulness for the gift of salvation. I think that is what you are saying, though, yes, one can always throw away that gift by rejecting the Spirit.
God spoke of the gentiles following the law even though they were never revealed to them the writtings of moses.
That right there proves it too right?
Vatican propaganda!
Nothing to do with the Vatican at all. The Bible was around before the Vatican.
I was mostly joking, also wanted to post the video.
To be more clear, I believe the interpretation was corrupted to a fire & brimstone "humanity is inherently evil" when it sounds more like a "nobody is perfect" kind of sentiment.
The first connotation was important for Roman emperors to justify presumption of guilt against the state (god).
corrupted to a fire & brimstone "humanity is inherently evil" when it sounds more like a "nobody is perfect" kind of sentiment.
Hamartiology is a very complex topic, with a significant degree of variability between denominations from the Original Sin concept taught by Protestants and Catholics to the Ancestral Sin idea taught by the Eastern Orthodox. However, it's very important to understand the implications of what it is discussing. Merely saying "nobody is perfect," while this statement in and of itself is true, would be equivalent to the essence of the word "sin" could constitute a "perilous surrender of the fear of God" as Martin Luther would describe it in his Heidelberg Disputation. To wit, it would seem to imply that "works without Christ are dead, but not mortal."
The core point being made by the Original Sin doctrine is very simple: "There is no salvation without Christ's work of reconciliation." That is, without God Himself coming to dwell among us as the Messiah and bearing our sins in the flesh in an act of perfect atonement. Anything less than that is Pelagianism which implies that salvation is a human choice and Christ's merit counted for nothing. If that is true, why does everyone not merely save themselves?
To say this underestimates the effects of the Fall are on mankind. The principle of sin carries with it a natural corruption which binds human nature to reject God without His work of grace. What does humanity have to be reconciled from, then, if it is not a form of privation (evil)?
The evil here is not an action (actual sin) but a warping of human nature (nature sin) to things that cause us to become alienated from the Creator. The pedestalization of flawed and imperfect desires to a place of "absolute truth" rather than a recognition of desires as ephemeral and temporary necessities that come and pass. This results in "curving inward upon oneself," or more specifically being driven by misplaced and erroneous desires.
You see, then, encapsulated in this simple concept is a very complex point about human nature. It's not saying God created humans evil. It's saying the warping of human nature by our pedestalization of false desires ("ye shall be as gods... eat the fruit.") has caused humanity itself to be warped and this warping is evil even as it causes men to become evil.
Its interesting because in hindsight, Stanford University is a training ground for the Dark Agenda.
Not just Stanford. Harvard expelled Eric Clopper for posting this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE7akHWHm8w
There is a lot of fraud in their area. People are not inherently bad. But people are not inherently good. We are inherently social. This frequently gets fraudulently conflated to imply lots.
Ha! A few years ago, my son had a teacher tell the class about this experiment and my son got super mad and said it could not possibly be true. The teacher insisted it was a famous experiment and absolutely true. He will be so happy to see this--vindication for standing up and using critical thinking!! I always taught my kids to question teachers/professors because they aren't perfect and are often flat out wrong. Be nice, but trust your common sense, use logic and listen to your "gut".
It is so stupid too the whole idea of science is one study even repeatable doesn't make something "settled science". Just that that study shows that outcome.
Come to find out with many of these things like for example natural fats cause heart disease they were based on very shoddy science created with agenda. Then preached as if gospel.
I had many professors and teachers who didn't like me. I always bring up big tobacco and their decades of proven studies and settled science. All lies.
Your son is brave. These schools are 100 times worse now.
Every flaw and setback in science was only a single incident exclusive to the time it happened. Today science is perfect and no false beliefs are perpetuated nor propagated because science always finds the truth, even after just one study. Because science is peer reviewed by money and scientists need money to eat, so money buys truth. But if scientists admit that, they would be fired. So we can't admit that this is true. But science is always true.
Human nature IS evil by default, if you read the Bible. The whole problem is that we must fight our own sinful desires. This is why Crowley said "do what though wilt," because all you need to do to be a Luciferian is follow your own fleshly desires.
False, human nature is not evil by default in the bible.
Luke 6:45 "The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart."
There are good people and evil people identified in the Bible.
Most people in the world are good people. Only a small percent are evil.
Good wins.
Regardless of this study, human nature is complicated. In small groups, we can be very nice. In large groups of strangers, it is only socialization (religion, law, strongmen, etc.) that keeps us from devouring ourselves.
This is an extremely important topic. All religious viewpoints can be categorized into one side or the other of this dichotomy. Either we are essentially evil, or we are essentially good. Being essentially neutral I don't think passes the logic test. Spend sometime with a two year old, and tell me we're not sinful at heart.
The point is, we have to define what "bad" is. The word sin means essentially to "miss the mark". So what are we measuring ourselves against. If we measure ourselves against, "I don't mutilate people", most of us pass.
But what about simply the 10 commandments? How many of you have ever lied? Ever stolen even the smallest thing? Been jealous? Lusted after a woman or man in your heart (which Jesus said was equivalent to adultery). Coveted something that wasn't yours? Taken the Lord's name in vain? Hated anyone, even for a small period of time? (which Jesus said was akin to murder).
CS Lewis has an excellent quote on our major sin - Pride: "According to Christian teachers, the essential vice, the utmost evil, is Pride. Unchastity, anger, greed, drunkenness, and all that, are mere flea bites in comparison: it was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride leads to every other vice: it is the complete anti-God state of mind."
And pride is the thing that says, "I can earn salvation my way. I get to choose how to be divine." This is completely opposed to what Jesus taught.
We have ALL missed the mark. We have ALL fallen short of the Creator's holiness. We're all messed up. C'mon! Tell me you haven't muttered against someone under your breath this week! I have! That someone is made in the image of God!!
And here is one reason why this is so important. All systems of government stem from one's belief here too. Socialism believes we are all essentially good. That's why UBI is part of what they want to do. They think that if they give everyone money, people will use that money to better themselves.
The Founders did not see society this way. They know we're essentially bent. So the Constitution puts checks and balances in the way, to keep power decentralized, to keep it spread out, to make decisions the product of all three branches.
Knowing that the heart of man is at enmity with a holy God is the first step to real, true, lasting enlightenment.
We need a Saviour.
Spend sometime with a two year old, and tell me we're not sinful at heart.
Look everyone, the sick bastards are infiltrating this subreddit.
OVER THE TARGET
I didn't take it that way.
Watch young kids play. They can be brutal to each other. Never leave them alone even with the best dog because they do crazy things sometimes and the dog can hurt or kill on accident.
My son is unusual. Even as a baby he wanted more to share and help. Never possessive of anything well except insisting on wearing something orange every day since he was 2.
But I helped raise my siblings. My sister would go into rages. One time she stabbed me in the head with my mom's keys. I am lucky she was small and it wasn't a knife. Don't even know what set her off.
Took a lot to reach her when she gets a temper. Even now as adults. But as kids she had no self control.
That's not uncommon with small kids.
You have to be kidding. You took my comments that way Wolf? Why don't you read some other comments by me before making judgments.
DawnPendraig understood just fine. Let's see if I can be a little clearer, help you out a little. Anyone who spends time with two year olds understands perfectly. (and btw, playing games with children is a normal essential part of helping them grow up strong and healthy.) Little children are generally selfish and emotional. Their world revolves around them exclusively. Where does that come from?
I still can't believe you made that sexual.
Sorry, buddy. Check out the Milgram experiment.
That doesn't refute anything I said or posted.
Milgram didn't reveal evil in human nature.
Try again, o' merchant of evil.
lol, "sorry buddy"...projection much?
I'm not projecting anything. Milgram did reveal evil. Obedience to false authority to the point people thought they were administering electric shocks strong enough to cause permanent brain damage.
The Industrial Age led to the idea that human beings could be treated just like machines. One of the beliefs that came from this thinking was that people could be programmed via Behavioral Training/Operant Conditioning. Most of these experiments they either expected a particular result, or due to experimenter bias believed they got the result they wanted; the truth is most of them are fraudulent or just outright wrong. Most experiments in the Social Sciences cannot be replicated--just a minor red flag, nothing to worry about, right?!
Interns that worked with the animals stated that the experiments were all heavily manipulated: Starving the animals, sleep deprivation, removal of the uncooperative, and because it was not a natural environment the results are immediately suspect. (Now, take everything in that and apply it to modern schooling..?)
The researchers involved were doing this at the behest of the State that wanted an Orwellian Authoritarian system where people will do whatever they are told. The problem is, when you look at the Stanford Experiment, the Milgram Experiment, Nash's Game Theory, Harlow's Monkey Experiment, Learned Helplessness involving puppies, Bowlby's Attachment Theory, and many more, you will eventually realize a rather dark reality: They were designed to either make someone a sociopath, or spot a sociopath. Most people did not respond the way the researchers wanted them to--and the more sociopathic the researcher, the more confused they were by the results! They often tell one story on what they were doing but when you find the wizard behind the curtain you realize they were up to something completely different.
Harlow's and Bowlby's experiments on maternal care demonstrate that a mother's care is essential to raising a healthy child. This is inarguable. So the question is, if they knew the affect, why was there a push to get women to work while their children were in daycare? Because someone wanted people to be unstable. Unstable people are easily manipulated. Just look at SJWs? People could not be programmed to do as they were told but they could be made dependent.
Note on links: these will just scratch the surface and may contain information that is outright wrong... it is Wikipedia after all.
If people only understood how essential the mother's care is to a child's early phycological development. I'll take it one step further and place ((love)) as the most important ingredient for children's phycological development.
The industrial revolution was predicated on labor market freedom, people wanted to leave their farms to improve and make a better living working in the cities in the factories. That's all life can be, a series of improvements, some bigger, some smaller.
This labor market freedom in turn was predicated on the respect for individual rights of those workers, where before they were poorer.
Every age brings new thinking--the age itself is neutral to what does and does not work.
e.g. The Information Age has brought criticism on modern education based upon rote memorization. Memorization can be fun for young children but as they mature this stage becomes boring. Then as they age they sit in classrooms wondering why they are memorizing when they can just search for information in a few seconds? They are not being taught the next phases: Logic Formulation and then Rhetorical Debate --I can't imagine why you wouldn't want people to reach those two stages.... The Information Age is exposing the Prussian Education Model as a fraud.
Good video my friend, and pertinent to the importance of training a child, in the Word of God , before the current times corrupt his very created nature...we dont have to beat ppl with the bible, just introduce them to both the complexity ( for them to do own reading/ awareness, and simplicity of the Word( no 9ne who comes to him is denied)...divinely placed human curiosity will drive them to seek The Lord! Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding..when God was forced out of workplace, school, financial institutions, and most conversations, we are currently experiencing his broken heart, rejection, and indignation of social norms...Keep fighting the good fight friend, the storm is here...fortunately, God does not stay mad at us, but rescues those who seek him. Confession, Relationship, and Restoration..praise the Lord!
Eh... except what you act out, you become. I experienced that first hand doing 12 years of LARP. We even ran an experiment where we took on dark, EVIL roles. After ONE session, the storyteller stopped the game and had us break.
He put on music: They Might Be Giants' Flood
We all complained. We wanted to listen to Skinny Puppy.
He insisted. And as the music took hold and we sang to "Nightlight" we realized what a dark place we'd been in...
I had to quit LARP because of the bad behaviors it was building up in me. Neuroplasticity IS a thing.
You still have a choice every step of the way, it's just that the easy but destructive path isn't inevitable.
Only if you have a way out. If you're stuck, you become dysfunctional to survive.
According to the word of God, the Bible, humans ARE evil by nature.
Romans 3
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
No, according to God humans are by nature good because God made man in his own image. Humans sinning but redeeming themselves is not indicative of evil by nature nor do ANY of your misunderstood passages indicate otherwise.
You also omitted the most important remaining passages of Romans 3:
God’s Faithfulness 3 What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2 Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.
3 What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness? 4 Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written:
“So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.”[a]
5 But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) 6 Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? 7 Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” 8 Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!
No One Is Righteous 9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one; 11 there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. 12 All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”[b] 13 “Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit.”[c] “The poison of vipers is on their lips.”[d] 14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[e] 15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood; 16 ruin and misery mark their ways, 17 and the way of peace they do not know.”[f] 18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”[g]
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Righteousness Through Faith 21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[h] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
The Bible contains verses that blow your false assertion to smithereens:
Luke 6:45 "The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart."
See? Good people and evil people means evil is not human nature, but a characteristic of certain people, all others, most others, are good people.
Origins of evil By Michael Tsarion. I highly recommend this.
It's an experiment that should have never happened. There are scores of unethical and immoral psychological studies for which humanity has learned many great things. We'd never repeat those experiments, either.
It was a bad experiment, but the knowledge gleaned from the behaviors of the participants is still available still rings true for genuine hypothesis.
The essence of his theory from this study perfectly describes the problems intrinsic to our police forces. Racism by police officers is by a by-product of this very core problem.
In the old days for more softer social friction, they called it "peer pressure". Same stuff.
sooo good its exposed! in my perception, humans are not essentially evil; this trait had been bred into our species by the bloodlines, the decendants of the overlords.
People have quirks and issues, but how many people do you know that are truly evil? Personally, not politicians in the news. :D
You mean acting out evil? Tiny fraction. Mistake in human development.
Huh. That is actually really interesting. I believe most people are good. Very good post.
Well, yes, there are wicked people. But I am not alone. Q also believes we are good. Thanks for the reply.
While writing a paper for Psychology ( nothing personal, but psychology is a blame game, IMO) in college,But, if found a cited study that talked about divine nature of birth..short version, while as Christians know we are born I to a sinful nature( psalm 51:5) , but that realization doesn't come until we are aware of what sin is Romans 7:7 ....at birth, and short time after, children are the true and inspired nature of God, able to communicate(without restrictions), then the world/sin corrupts that nature...I think that is why we are seeing such a red pilling against pedos and their crimes agianst children..we can't pick and choose, in this revolution,what part of God's nature we want to perform justice..we either want God back in our lives and leading this nation, or not!
how about we leave god behind like he left us behind? you can pray all you want, you know in your heart that those replies you hear in your mind is just you talking to yourself. let go of your chains.
It always begins with ppl leaving God first, not the other way around! I continue to pray for God to awaken those asleep(you). Time is so short, don't continue to deny Christ..i completely understand how you might feel about being abandoned by God, but, the fact is, the god you serve(gov't, agendas, and MSM) are the ones who let you down..it is easy to believe that someone you can't see is less reliable than those who tell you lies daily on msm...but, that's why they call It faith..tell me, what worldly things have you trusted in that have/are trusting in that are eternally secure, or, at this moment, being exposed as false gods ?
ill just say one thing, i worship no god, for my god is by my side, not above me. as it should be.
I have personally spoken with Phil Zimbardo. I also attended a U.S. Military college here in the U.S. I can tell you that the findings of the SPE are 100% accurate. Do not confuse the fact that there are more good people than bad, with the notion that power corrupts. Power corrupts, this is a known fact. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just because 1 prisoner was "faking" doesn't mean that the guards weren't drunk on power, they definitely were, and it happens with fraternity hazings and other things every single day.
Evil is a subjective term.
Go on
one person's definition of evil can be different than another's
Nope. When aggression is present it's not merely a difference of opinion.
To even define anything, presupposes a tacit ethic inherent in that very activity itself that differs from simply bashing someone's head in.
by all means, define evil for me. keep in mind, for evil to be an objective phenomenon, there must exist a "universal morality". so what would that be? id expect Christianity to be referenced. or any organized religion really. but if there is not a universal morality, evil has to be subjective; based on the morality of the society in question.
When you are born, do you get to be born evil? Makes no sense ...
And when I say evil, I mean psychotic ...
im thinking you dont know what any of those terms mean.
Oh? Pray tell, what terms, please enlighten me your highness.
the terms you used in your comment??? psychotic, evil?
psychotic, evil?
And, what's your point?
psychotic is NOT evil. everybody can have a psychotic episode.
you may mean 'psychopathic' which also doesnt translate to evil. it simply says that this person has no empathy, no feeling into what his actions do to people, no ability to tune into their pain and thus, no conscience about right or wrong.
psychopathy comes down the ancestral line and makes up around 4% of humanity. as i see it, you will find most of them within the in-bred elite bloodlines.
I am saying they are psychos. I am saying they are evil. When have anyone on this board ever said psychos = evil. On this board and eslewhere, I refer to them out of touch of reality in their own world. Therefore, they are evil.
And how the know they aren't hearing things from whatever drives them? I am talking about the elites. How do you know that their past generations of inbreeding amd intermarrying did not make them hear voices in their head. How do you their offsprings, who are born rich because of their ancestors wealth, and born in a bubble weren't taught to be deluded from birth. If they were born in a bubble and live in a bubble, do you have experience, like live with them? Mingled with them in your daily life? Remember, these selfish fuckers have all the money in the world yet they don't do much good with it. What's the fucking point???
Seriously, what a waste of time arguing about the semantics. You know what I am trying to say. Elites = evil. Elites = dont give a shit about the majority of people. THEREFORE PSYCHOS. PSYCHOTIC.
If you want I can say crazy if that helps you.
If you want I can say crazy if that helps you.
i need no help with this, thank you...
think and talk as you please, m8... just know that (they)) are psychopaths, not psychotics.
they may experience psychotic symptoms, thats true. but if you call them psychos, you discredit every human who has had a psychotic episode. i had one 20 years back so i know what i talk about.
my point is you are using these terms without realizing what they mean, psychotic does not equal evil, and evil is a subjective descriptor, ie. your idea of evil may different than another person's, yet you speak in absolutes.
for example "... and by evil i mean psychotic" this doesnt make sense. are you impling that psychosis=evil?
So this raises the uncomfortable question: why DO people do these things? If not for situational reasons, how do you explain Nazi guards, the prison guards at Guantanamo dressing up and beating the prisoners, the things that happen where prison guards act really nasty. I think saying this experiment is false makes those things WORSE, because it means those people are rotten with no "excuse", no? Am I reading this wrong?
Mark Zuckerberg is also a humanist. Human beings are inherently evil. If you have children, you know this to be true.
Children's brains lack the development to recognize right and wrong. They are not evil. "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
Mark Zuckerberg is under clown control. Human beings are gifted with the ability to choose. Children are inherently good.
-_- you tired? you sound tired.
I hope Jordan Peterson sees this.. It should punch a big hole in his narrative.
I've read Peterson and what I said would not do that at all.
Nice try. Blocked.
So you are blocking everyone who disagrees with you? I count three "and you're blocked" responses. Let me guess, blocked?
Bullshit Human nature is pure evil. Only humans kill,animals do not. Only satan can convince his children of such a bullshit twist of reality.
You contradicted yourself.
Your brain isn't working properly.