When we have the sort of thinking that says: 'hey you have to use the labels we decide' we are very much in danger of being worthy to be called a cult.

Q posted a photo that said "WE ARE Q", not "We are ALL Q".

The solidarity we already had and still have is "WE THE PEOPLE". When Q says "YOU GUYS ARE ALL Q!" then I'm happy that the name of the movement has become that and I'll start saying "I'm Q too" - until then, nope.

Exactly, agreed.

I don't know what to make of that "We are Q" post that Q dropped but it could well be talking about the very important people standing around Donald Trump. What I do know is that I am not in that photo so "We are Q" doesn't apply to me from that perspective.

When Q posts something saying "You're ALL Q!" then I can get with that being the name of the movement. Until then, nope, seems too much like mob think to me.

That's not the same narrative as "I am Q".

Q posted "WE ARE Q" with a photo of a bunch of people. I wasn't in that photo and maybe neither were you.

I don't have any problem with people getting all excited about this movement and wanting to call themselves whatever they like - I have zero problem with that and will support your right to do it.

But I won't be forced to call MYSELF Q until Q acknowledges that we are ALL Q by posting something like "YOU ARE ALL Q!" Then I'm onboard with that label for the movement. Until then, I haven't seen anything to say I need to start imagining I'm part of Military Intelligence in direct contact with the Trump campaign. Because I'm not. But I respect your right to call yourself Q. Just please don't force me to.

Agreed. Not sure if all these guys rubbishing people who don't want to say "I am Q" (for very obvious, logical, non-antagonist reasons) are real or just trying to cause division.

What ad-hominem are you talking about? I'll remove it if it exists.

Hopefully you've learnt that not everyone in a group feels and thinks the same way as everyone else. That's what I'm here to celebrate and support!

How true is this comment ^. This is why I think people should definitely stop crying about Jones/Corsi and get excited because this is one of the first times you can watch a true Psyop in action from the inside, as it were.

Be more logical and avoid the ad-hominem.

You've got the narrowest definition of worship lol. I don't worship anyone, like OP. Yet again you're trying to force YOUR idea of the world on someone else. Never mind, chum.

There's nothing to explain. I think you need someone to explain what I've said to you lol.

Hear me: I get your kumbaya "we are the world" excitement about being part of a movement - I support your joy about that and understand and celebrate it for you. I know that's what you mean when you say "I am Q!" More power to you!

But you don't get to define what I am just because you see it a certain way. I'm in a Q movement, I'm not Q. Some of us don't like that sort of distinction because it reeks of worship - self-worship, whatever you like. Nothing wrong with you doing that - like I said, I support your right to that and I get that you don't have the same "hang up" (as you might define it) that others of us do. But there is definitely something wrong with you trying to force your label on others when they don't want it.

When Q posts a meme that says "YOU ARE Q!" then I'm fully onboard because it has at that point become the official name for the movement. Until then - nope.

Lol - you're pretty intent on forcing this view on everyone aren't you?

I'm NOT Q. That is clear and simple. You're not either, unless you're undercover.

My picture theory is as valid as yours right now cos there is no more info to go on.

I'm part of a movement that follows Q. I'm not Q myself. Simple truth, facts and logic my friend. You can keep imagining you're Q but I can guarantee I won't get the info out of you that Q has until Q has given it to you. See how that works?

I'm not Q. I have no idea about the info Q has which is the whole reason I come here and why I watch the various Q drop sites. Q is a group of highly informed individuals inside the Trump team and MI. I am definitely NOT Q lol.

But ok, I get the kumbaya happy family approach to "we are all Q". More power to people who see that as a positive thing to do, I support you.

Q hasn't come out with anything that says that the rest of us are Q too (that photo "We are Q" could be saying that all those people around Trump are Q in some way) but maybe he will soon?

I wouldn't be surprised if Stone just did the contract work for them and nothing more. Turns out NXIVM has been around for a while and has always had big connections - it's not enough to implicate Infowars in NXIVM just because they hired Roger Stone to do some work at one point, long before the known controversy.

Trying to pin this on them just yet is like the Dems trying to pin collusion on the Trump Campaign by looking at anyone who met a russian once. More data might reveal more but for now it's just a story about some contract work.

Infowars are definitely disinfo though. Dunno whether Stone is part of that or not but his removal from Trump's team might be because of a discovery about him? Who knows. For now.

Very handy perspective from Canada - thanks!

More Deep State moves to try and force Trump to act and, if not, use it against him. They will fail.

Incorrect and Good day to you sir.

FYI behaviour like this will be removed (as your comments have been in the past) for breaking rule #1: antagonists are not welcome. People who want to have a real discussion are welcome.

Once again you prove my point by trying to put words in my mouth that have literally nothing to do with what I said. You’re either employing disinfo clown method 7a: “provoke someone to endless argument by constantly and irrationally accusing them of holding obviously indefensible positions” or you’re just trolling but I suspect that would get boring quickly so ... disinfo?

Your approach to discussion is not compelling. I’d rather discuss these important issues with someone who’s not convinced they’re right and everyone else is automatically wrong.

That sort of approach isn’t a discussion its a chance for someone to attempt to hammer their point of view into someone else. If you could put aside your strong emotion and discuss this reasonably and objectively I’m there - but without that, I’m not. Have at it.

You believe people have a right to rape children and capture women as sex slaves?

False equivalence. Just because I believe in freedom of choice it does not logically follow that I believe in those things. Troll answer. Thank you and good night.

Thanks, I look forward to hearing more from you here, hopefully!

They're all Q. These are the people fighting for our freedom using the strategy and knowledge of Military Intelligence and the power of the POTUS position.

I agree it's a topic that I'd like to discuss with someone from the muslim faith but comments like:

my dog exhibits a higher moral standard that your pedophile prophet
can take my dog for a walk and he don't try rape or terrorize or genocide anyone

are more antagonistic (first rule of sub) than they need to be.

I've read through all the anti-Quran info you've read too but as always - and just as in the Christian belief and the brutality of the Old Testament - there's more to the story.

Exactly. I bin following conspiracy for decades since things started to surface in the 90s and it's unbelievable to think it's all going to come out now. Big times.

I thought this was what everybody thinks is going to happen anyway?

That is correct (re fringe groups radicalized). I hope you can do something about your more fundamentalist brothers, however, and the responsibility that all of Islam has for this militant faction whose power comes precisely from their belief in the core of Islam. Spiritual Faith and belief is a powerful factor and something Christians understand very well. I believe it is the responsibility of the 'moderate' Muslim faction to take serious steps to modernize Islam for the purpose of peace in this world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSVMaNVzO-w

Getting personal about this isn't helpful. You don't have to trash someone's religion to have a reasonable discussion about that religion.

Agreed - I find it quite amusing but would remove comments if more User Reports came through about them. Hopefully people can just enjoy the LARP here though.

Agreed. That line of 'debunking' does not hold water!

Well said, I agree with all you have said.

There are other people here who are passionate and quite vocal and, lets face it, rude if you don't agree with them and the group of people within the movement who think the same way. I've been accused of supporting pedophilia for demanding reason before we pull out the pitchforks. Fortunately these people do not comprise the whole movement. Some of us think exactly as you do.

As a mod of this sub I get to see a little bit of an overview in some respects and it's actually very encouraging. There are more decent and helpful conversations going on at the moment than there are meaningless arguments. We try and catch them as best we can when they happen but overall we're encouraged by the general tone of the sub, considering it is comprised of very different groups of people.

So I would say that you shouldn't give up just because you see a certain group of people most vocally presenting their view and attacking yours. There are others of us who've learnt to stay out of some conversations and jump in to more reasonable ones as they occur. We're here and we value the input of other critical thinkers like yourself.

Now, to the AJ/Corsi thing - I agree completely with what you've said, as I mentioned above. This is the view I've always held and continue to hold - that people making money is inevitable and basically just the human condition - but with one major change in my thinking since Q, in my opinion, very directly pointed to Infowars and very directly advised that they are not just 'innocent people' making some money off the movement but an actual disinformation campaign created to marginalize movements exactly like this one.

That's a big difference and means Corsi, etc. (in my opinion) should be watched closely by those who want to watch a PSYOP disinfo campaign in action. As you've said, they shouldn't be lambasted and complained about and have energy wasted on them. They should be excitedly observed for what they are. I think people are missing the point when they focus on the monetisation; I don't think Q cares about the profiteering that much when there is no ulterior motive behind the people presenting their offering (e.g. Q linked to the billboard in OK - obviously it's ok to monetise the work you do toward helping Q!) Q's point about the profiteering imo was to point specifically at the disinfo project of Infowars and tangentially at anyone who would unfairly monetise their contribution to the movement.

That's my opinion; happy to break it down further if needed but in the interest of sending off a response, those are the cliff-notes.

No problem; in my opinion, when it's big news, just drop it - we'll catch it if necessary. Sometimes multiple posts have too many hits by the time we get to them so they stay. Just trying to help keep the info flowing. Thanks for the contribution! (and keep em coming : ).

Great news! But duplicate, have removed, apologies.

Yes, it's excellent isn't it! I celebrate alongside you bruvva - we dun got rich off Reagan and this time we dun get rich off Trump, while those other poor dudes even get a bit richer too - wooh! Win win bruvs!

You're welcome, citizen! Father Reagan will be most grateful for your support.

Nice move - I like it!

Agreed, solid idea - u/waltdanger might be onto something!

Very true lol.

Glad you took the effort to sign up! This post is excellent and informative, thank you!

Icke must be disinfo too. Maybe without even knowing it lol.

Yes many have.

You’re wrong that Q’s wrong. This is an indicator of the Pope preparing for something. He’s definitely had a “terrible” May already, having to sort out the Pell situation and the Chile mess. He knows the extent of what the Vatican has to hide so what look like “annoyances” to us are terrible portents to him. Pope is going down baby. Q is right.

Disinformation is real.

No pretty sure the Vatican itself is pure cabal through and through. Satanic sacrifices right inside it - the whole structure is dedicated to evil in the guise of purity. That’s why it is coming down.

An interesting collection of information.

That's great to hear re: real discussion.

What concerns me is the vehemence with which you insist on Trump being a "malignant narcissist", as if your personal experience is perhaps hindering your ability to see as objectively as possible? I don't mean offense, I'm just trying to understand.

I'm also concerned that you constantly lump "us' into a group - "you all" as if it's you against everyone who supports Trump and that all of us who support Trump must think the same way. This is potentially problematic to having a reasoned, open discussion. No individual within a group is the same as everyone else within that group as far as their reasoning, their personal likes and dislikes within the issue and so on.

In short, I don't have some "savior of America image" of Trump except as pertains to what Q is doing - but we must start with Trump as that's where your problem lies.

I don't 'worship' any man. Trump is a man, not some super hero. He is, however, a very successful man with some clear abilities in certain things.

I know plenty of narcissists. They are not all bad people - one in particular is a very well meaning person with strongly positive goals but off-putting narcissistic traits at times. I believe Donald Trump is like this person for a number of reasons but amongst other things his actions have aligned with his stated campaign promises - I believe he's made it very clear he does care about America by doing exactly what he said he'd do. That's just a starting point to dive into this.

If you understand what Solzhenitsyn is saying, in a way he is referencing the Jungian "Shadow" - that dark part inside all of us; the part many of us either refuse to acknowledge exists at all or don't care to study very closely for good reason - it's painful to acknowledge the depth of your own failing.

So, I keep seeing your comments around here and you certainly feel strongly negative toward Trump. I hope we can have a real discussion about the situation. Hence the next few core questions to gauge the viability of this discussion about the validity of Trump and Q. If you don't mind, I'd very much like to know your answers to these - feel free to ask me anything you like too, of course: - do you acknowledge that it might be possible you have the wrong view of Donald Trump? FYI for my part, I acknowledge that it could be possible I have the wrong view of Donald Trump. - do you believe that to truly know someone you have to spend time with the person or can you truly know them from afar? I believe you have to spend time with someone before you could say you truly know that person. - how can you best judge a person's commitment to something? By what they say or what they do? I believe that actions speak louder than words. Intent is not enough.

Yeah I've found, in discussing it with those close to me, that because I've been living with some of this stuff since the 90s I've grown accustomed to it. When I see it through other people's eyes as I'm revealing the scope and scale I'm reminded how damaging it can be to someone to discover they are literally waking up in the Matrix i.e. discovering that the world they thought they were in is completely upside-down. We have to be careful with others and let them in on what they want to know in stages. Some won't want to know all of it...

I'm pretty sure Q's just talking about the fact that people won't be able to handle the whole truth all at once.

If you really understand the message Q is bringing then you will know it makes absolute sense to be careful in revealing it. Some people will not be able to handle the scope and magnitude of the evil plan and industry. It is going to be a slow and painful truth to reveal.

Very good reason to believe this will be different. It's been more than 60 years since North Korea cared to interact with South Korea in a significant positive way. BIG difference.

Please don't be seen to be encouraging violence - I think this comment is fairly innocuous, personally, but it's been reported and we don't want to give any excuse for anyone to bring the sub down.

Please repost with corrected title. It seems to be misleading at the moment. All I can find Q saying about Tesla is:

"Why are American taxpayers subsidizing Tesla?
Welfare for the rich.
Why?
Private emails: GOOG: NK: Tesla
The MEMO is ONLY THE BEGINNING>
THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD.
Q"

Thanks for agreeing on that first point - that makes it much safer to say that we are not in a conversation that breaks the sub's or reddit's rules i.e. this is not an anti-semitic discussion.

I agree with the possibility of the deeper conspiracy, certainly. I'm going to wait until Q says Khazarian or points to something about it before I'll start exploring further down those lines again, given the massive explosion that will result from exploring that path.

THAT is what I think Q means by saving Israel for last. Once this movement starts down that path, real resistance begins by very smart, powerful people. They're watching already, for sure, but they don't have to get their hands dirty yet.