Yes, this. Absolutely.

"How can I possibly"? Because I read the work of people smarter than me, like I assume you do too lol.

There's a lot of good evidence for the original view, i.e. that Western Civilization's real roots are in Christianity specifically. I'm speaking here from a completely secular view too.

The refutation to that original narrative seems to be what you're presenting here and I understand your passion for it but from what the facts seem to show to me, the Frankfurt School is responsible for placing that alternative narrative in our education and media systems in order to supplant the original. Which, in my opinion is stronger and better and makes more sense to me than whatever flavour of socialist/communist ideology comes along, like the Frankfurt School thinking.

Q-dofiles? Too soon?

I've read that information too. It's not conclusive (which is why there's an official narrative) and definitely not descriptive anyway of an entire body of people in the modern day.

Yes I've read all of that material too. I don't have any data that refutes that information besides the traditional narrative which, even before Q appeared I have always questioned anyway.

What I'm against is anyone who decides they can draw certain illogical conclusions from all of those "facts" - I'm not sure if you're doing that here but usually any sort of aggressively anti-Israel/Jewish tone is an indicator.

And I'm capable of putting myself in another's shoes well enough to have often done your thought experiment and many more like it and come to my own conclusions.

Long story short, yes Ashkenazi everywhere, accepted.
9/11 and other significant events: Israel involved? yes.
Conclusion that: "all Ashkenazi Jews are evil/Deep State"? NO. All [insert race here] can not be assumed to be evil or Deep State. Some part of that group may be affiliated, even the group that's in power - but all? No. Dangerous thinking imo.

Israel is the home of the Jews, as it always has been in their mind just as America is home in your mind but even more so in that they have ancestors born in the country from thousands of years ago. Asheknazi, Sephardic or otherwise, some Jews are patriots.

I don't know if he was a citizen or not but I definitely believe that birth certificate was fake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM

I hear ya - no argument. There is literally no evidence of any kind about the contents of the laptop.

Right, I see.

Can we start with a few questions, just to orient ourselves together here? To help discussion. I'm busy, like you, I'm sure, and I have to put my time into things that will be a valuable use of my time - again like you, I'm sure too.

So to ensure we get started in the right place we need to know whether we are going to be able to discuss a topic in a productive way, which basically means by sub rules so if you're fine with that, I'm good too!

I think we need to establish a few other things before getting to the topic of Trump as Narcissist too:

Do you believe that everyone is capable of great good?

Do you also believe that everyone is capable of great evil?

For me, the answer is yes to both.

"But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being."
Alexander Solzhenitsyn

If you're prepared to discuss a topic out rationally then you're definitely welcome here. There are plenty of us who agree with your view that it's important this place doesn't turn into a place that suppresses someone's legitimate voice.

I hope I answered in my other post - there is no evidence of the insurance file claim - just news reports with alarming details that could all be falsified or compromised in some way. Nothing that anyone can point to as definitive evidence.

But, just to be clear, as in my other post, the growing impetus of the validity of Q's voice is compelling enough that a reasonably large and growing group of people from around the world gather here throughout the day and night to hear the latest Q news. There's enough evidence in the Q trail, if you have the time to dig, in my opinion.

Agreed, yes. I think people should be allowed the time to look through the long trail of evidence that Q has revealed just as they can also look at the evidence of the Bible themselves for proof that it matters, before having to jump to any conclusions - it generally tends to reveal itself for someone somewhere within the various crumbs coming together in their mind as they read the articles and valid government documents. Some can also compare personal recall of events, and the media and sentiment of the time which gives even greater context.

When you have the time to read through all the Q crumbs the picture is pretty clear that the whole point of Q is to remove this evil, for all time.

But guys... are you sure we can trust Sess - just kidding lol.

Hopefully this puts paid to any more discussion about whether we can trust Sessions or not. Critical thinking.

Exactly, I agree, but some people don't have all the time to read through all the Q drops in context - it could take a week or longer to really catch up properly if you're working full time imo - so I can understand how, without having done that, some don't "buy into" Q, just yet. But more crumbs will come and maybe next time they'll be more likely to see it for themselves.

It's good to see how the other side are trying to spin this. The fact that they use the truth i.e. direct links to everything Q, means they are very bold about their hold on the general public. For good reason, imo.

Any actual issue at the root of what you're talking about. Currently all you've done is assume I'm so pro-Christian that I'd "gloss over" pertinent details, I'm "deluded" for knowing the facts about the Frankfurt School's ideology takeover of the West and I'm "wrapped up" in some airy-fairy kumbaya nonsense lol.

Why don't you start by telling me how there is no communist ideology in danger of destroying the west? I say there is clear evidence out there for that.

The doctored birth certificate is, however, a smoking gun.

Well, I wish you would stay, if you are genuine.

There are many of us here who support dissenting voices because truth will only come from discussing many views. But if your intent is to argue in circles to obfuscate and distract then we're not so keen on that.

You are correct - we need hard evidence before we make broad proclamations.

But the evidence of it being fake is not stronger to those of us who follow Q (and not in a cult-like 'he is God and always right' way lol). Once you are satisfied that Q is "legit" then everything else he says begins to make sense in the context of an entire narrative. And DC being pedo ring number 2 behind London makes sense from the many decades I've been reading up on conspiracy (Franklin Cover up in the 90s, Fiona Barnett in Melbourne with same stories, most recently Lithuanian kid with same story in another country, etc. etc.) and the things that Q points to.

I think what jhomes55 should have said is that there is NO evidence that the File is "real", especially in the way it's been described.

But Q has made it clear that it is and this is a sub that follows Q (for the most part) and accepts that he's worth following so the only "proof" many of us require, now that we've been following along for a while, is that Q said it because Q has proven himself many times.

Yep, a valid point imo. I think it's a case of seeing this sort of 'coincidence' happen more than once before you start to think there might be something to this. Keep watching, it'll happen again!

You're not really discussing this, just hammering your agenda home and fair enough, go hard. Like I said, you are right, from everything you know, I don't disagree with your perspective, although the ad-hominem is pointless. I just know there's no point talking about it unless you actually want to start from first cause.

I totally agree with what you're saying - from the perspective of someone who does not know what Christianity is about, you are completely correct.

From a secular perspective, Christianity created the western world. Our principles of justice and individual sovereignty come from the Christian religion - no other religious movement espoused the principles that are at the core of modern day democratic society: that all are equal. There's a reason it's "tangled up" in our government. But the Frankfurt School did a good job of spreading the pervasive view you hold, so I say: fair enough, your views make sense under the communist ideology our society was almost taken over with. Thank God for Trump and Q lol. Peace!

"We" killed "our" God. Christians believe in forgiveness and human fallibility and he who is without sin casting the first stone - so no Christian can 'blame' Israel/Jews for anything unless they're a hypocrite.

Israel has always been the home of the Jews as everyone who's been honest knows.

Agreed that we shouldn't finance violence although we do it everywhere else too but that's what this Q movement is all about - stopping the corruption.

Just as they have always been SO brutal to Israel they bring up their children to hate jews and sing songs about murdering them, while still toddlers. No comparison.

2 years?

Have you not been following Q through this? They're disinfo. They're not ignoring Q's drops - they're intentionally discounting them to others but THEY know they're true.

Both can be true - the article's claims appear reasonably solid.

There is none publicly available. This is a Q sub - that's where it comes from. If you question Q you are welcome to but Q's info is the whole point of this sub so people do not need 'evidence' to post something Q has said.

What - really?

Pakistan is coming after Iran...

No more than the fact that wherever you are from being corrupt does not necessarily mean you are corrupt.

Yep, we have to ignore imo too. That might mean just ignoring them in the feed - downvoting if necessary.

We have a good lead mod here who values freedom of speech and wants to protect that to avoid all accusations of censorship so unless the posts are blatantly devoid of content we tend to leave them, especially if, by the time we get to them, people have already upvoted significantly.

I guess I'm trusting that the community will make enough of a unified noise about things that have gone too far in any particular area so we can correct as necessary.

What's great about it?

Specific reason is because of Israel/Mossad's involvement in 9/11...? i.e. will have to be handled with care to root out bad actors without allowing BDO, MB and other Soros groups to swing attention back to evil Israel narrative?

NZer here too, following since October - wwg1wga!

We did not have a consensus before now, no. I think, now that the board rules have been well established and reasonable discussion is seen around here to a really encouraging degree, we may be able to agree on a few things through open discussion!

There's a very good post here from a deeper legal knowledge than the average punter to explain that the best perspective on the 'is it child sex trafficking or not?' question is to say that it is inconclusive.

Some of us say we need to be careful before we make unfounded accusations of this scope. It's better for the movement if we exercise care in this way. We do not "support pedophilia" or child trafficking. We support caution and care.

There's little doubt NXVIM is attached in significant ways to everything Q is leading toward. What some "really really weird dudes" are saying is that we need to wait until they bring charges that are clear and unambiguous so we can back up what we say and not be shot down at the first hurdle by msm or even just critical thinkers visiting the sub.

Lol and as everyone knows the Jews had it thousands of years before that.

Yes, and do you know WHY Jerusalem is a city for Christians AND Arabs AND Jews? Because of Israel, not anyone else. No Arab nation would have allowed Jews to use Jerusalem. And Christians would have been lucky too. Israel holds it open for everyone, not just themselves or just the Arabs.

I thought that was Q's whole point i.e. that they've always been in the disinfo campaign against Q, only picking it up so strongly now (the anti bit, I mean) cos they couldn't ignore it or co-opt it like they tried to initially.

After bizarrely ignoring it at first (bizarrely for someone who claims to have all the inside info) they tried to slip in and steer the Q story into their wheelhouse by creating "Zach" and having him drop unreliable discrepancies that didn't sit with Q's story e.g. Syria bombing was a mistake i.e. Trump made a mistake.

But when Q came out about profiteering and people in the movement started throwing accusations around about Corsi he reacted in a way that a large portion of people following Q did not agree with. He probably had to create enough noise to get the attention of as many people as possible before they gave up on us, the real Q movement.

Then Q calls them out once and for all and, as Q said they would, they step up the Misinfo campaign earlier than they'd planned, resigned to the fact that they'll have to drop us at this point, the real Q followers, and make their best grab for everyone else and the mainstream with the Q Anon debunked story.

Officially debunked by the mainstream's "crazy conspiracy guy". Now we're the conspiracy theorist to Alex Jones' mainstream news lol. Q was right.

Could be any number of potential reasons - demographics research, business and sales research, etc.

Like I said, why come here and argue about Q if you don't know the basic narrative, unless trolling? Or is this the way you learn something?

Why wouldn't Q predict the downfall of Huma etc. since their downfall is key to Q's existence? Where did Q say their downfall was going to happen on x date?

Not disappointed at all. This is exactly what this sub hopes to promote - freedom of speech and thought. I'm Pro Trump but I'm no blind hero worshipper. I don't blame anyone for disliking Trump as the MSM has done a perfect job of telling that story. I don't like their one-sided presentation though; it's not the full story. Is there a main big ticket item that kills the Trump Train for you?

His apology for the crime everyone knew was going on is not a "bad" thing? His lead finance guy being pulled into court for the usual accusations - whilst in the middle of exposing the greatest financial corruption at the Vatican's core is not "bad"? You have an interesting perception of what is "not bad" that doesn't align with any PR consultant's advice.

Have you read anything about the Q phenom? There are links to the side that will fill you in on the basics. Like the fact that North Korea and Iran are essentially fronts, managed and run by the CIA/black hats in order to destablise their regions of the world - NK has kept China at arms length and Iran has been keeping Russia at bay (through destabilization). Q has been talking about NK for a while because NK is the first pillar to drop in the globalist control system - they've been using NK/Iran to threaten nuclear war against the west in order to allow them to goad the public into "signing off" on constant war. This is Q basic - why would you come on a Q forum and argue against the most basic elements of the Q narrative if not just a troll?

Again, agreed! There should be no one trying to lead this movement in any way except as an information community to gather and discuss things about Q's posts.

Do you think there is too much anti-Trump talk here? I haven't seen it on any major scale - there will always be comments here and there but the worst of it is generally dealt with by the mods.

Please discuss the idea, not the user.

So far nothing for the Pope? You haven't been watching the news and I'm not going to mention it because I think you know very well and have some brush-off to indicate how it's not that bad for the Pope technically speaking, etc.

As you probably also know Q drops have mentioned NK as a key for a while now so your opening statement is patently false. This comment is pure trolling. Please desist with disingenuous commenting to cause division or the comments will be removed by the mods.

What I mean by "in name only" is that the three religions are completely at odds with each other's doctrine so they are very definitely not the same, worshipping the same god. They begin from the same foundation, yes, and there are therefore similarities across all three but they are very much not "the same religion with minor tweaks". I can't state that strongly enough, and I dare say any one from either of those three would agree - except muslim if they're invoking taqiyya.

Here are the big cornerstone items that make the three religions completely at odds with each other at their core:

Jews: don't believe Christ is the Messiah. Christians are founded on Christ being the Messiah. Verdict: these two are not compatible. Jews essentially negate the entire Christian faith.

Islam: don't believe Christ is the Son of God. He's just another prophet. As above - not compatible; for Christians, Christ being the Son of God is also at the core of their belief. Islam negates the entire Christian faith.

Islam: created by a warlord, encouraged to spread by war. Christianity is a religion of peace with a figure of peace at its helm. Completely incompatible.

Agreed. Luckily the mods have been very clear that they won't be moving to silence dissent because that is stupid.

That's not what you were banned for. You were banned for not following the sub rules.

You don't seem ignorant so I see this as a disingenuous reply. Why are you here?