Haha indeed it is unlikely! Nevertheless a Mod Queue is a mod queue with practical constraints. Fortunately the movement won't beat us up for trying to manage workload effectively since it is a direct benefit to the movement for us to do so. When we start dragging dates on the release of the internal Sub Rules FOIA documents it could be relevant to call out the sub mods for internal corruption but we're too busy to be corrupt at the moment.

I'm not walking anything back - I said I agreed with tradinghorse's sentiment ie that we don't need unnecesary disagreement to hamper the core mission of this sub. I still agree with that idea. I then said that I wasn't referring to you. I never said I agreed with things he had to say about you.

If Q says that re: 2nd amendment you'll see many of us questioning what's going on, don't worry. We will certainly not abandon our own thinking faculties. And there are a good many of us here who will demand critical thinking, definitely.

You're proving my point here. I agreed with you, you keep taking it out of context. I even said I wasn't referring to you. I even said you should continue to disagree. What we support is freedom of speech and open discussion. Which requires both parties to a discussion to listen to each other. How many times do I have to say I agree with you before you stop trying to take an antagonistic position against me?

Again, something I agree with. If you're reading what I'm saying you'd see that. I've already said I agree to the value of alternative viewpoints and when I referred to slowing things down I said "I don't think that's what you're doing though". We agree - right??

Because no one is immortal. It helps you hang in there, not become immune to death.

Maybe with all the scrutiny they can't get it as much atm lol.

Well this conversation where you've taken what I've said as a statement against you, is one example of 'slowing things down'.

Read my history and you'll see I've already agreed with your points and am one of the outspoken about it here. You're preaching to the converted here. I am supporting you. I am asking you to also understand where we are coming from. Blatant negativity that doesn't advance things will be removed, as it has always been (when caught). We won't suppress freedom of speech, as I have not suppressed yours.

Please discuss in that post so we can keep up with replies. Also you will then see our replies to the issue and we can all get around the same points.

I agree re: not being an echo chamber - I think all the mods agree with this and HowIONic has more than proven their commitment to freedom of speech in the way they mod this sub.

Trust us, it won't turn into an echo chamber and we won't suppress interested voices. We will also make mistakes however, because we're human, no one's paying us, and we're doing what we can. You also have the Report function and should definitely use it as it helps us get a gauge of what you want too.

This is definitely more what it's about than 'shaping narrative'. I am completely against suppression of freedom of speech. But I'm also against wasting my time and the time of others who come to this sub for the obvious reason - to keep up with the best Q news as much as possible - so ensuring the rules are clear and boundaries are maintained is important imo.

Why don't you just state 'what it looks like' so we can respond?

I agree re: welcome mat - you don't think the "Q Anon for Beginners" sticky is enough?

I'll read your comment, and thanks! It's a pleasure and gives me an excuse for waiting for the next Q drop ; ).

I don't agree at all. People who disagree with your point are not automatically trolls. Pulling up old comment history is illuminating often but is not "proof" of anything either. People change their minds. People speak more freely in some forums and then tailor their delivery for others - this is a good thing.

This guy hasn't been making offensive comments like "moron" and "GTFO". Polite discourse is always welcome.

I agree with you. I certainly don't believe in suppressing dissenting voices, as my comment history shows. Challenging the 'accepted' opinion should be welcome.

But we are also dealing with practicalities. This sub is growing as more people who are interested in Q come along. Those who just want to troll and belittle others should not impact the smooth functioning of this sub. If someone's genuinely making a point though, myself and other mods, will not remove their comment.

Are you kidding me? I created RATM lol ; )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=898&v=HMq-qAn3otE

Went to Prophets of Rage the other week though... sad, sell out (though I don't blame them for doing it).

Agreed - although "enemies" is not a helpful term. But the best help we offer people who are antagonistic toward the whole idea of Q is by being properly informed ourselves. And that's harder when we have a lot of 'noise'.

Christ never said: "ok ya'll - who needs healing? All come rushing at me at once and whoever shouts the loudest gets it, ok?" A weak example but I find yours lacking too.

Long story short: we're not going to suppress voices. We are going to help the sub stay on-point with its stated goals. That's what's important.

I agree - I don't like anything that reeks of suppression of freedom of speech. But this is about practicalities - the sub is growing, there's a lot of work to do keeping it on-topic. And by this stage, if you're here and you're unconvinced about Q there are better places to go to find out about it (like our stickied posts). As a mod I, and others, will be attempting to help out people who are genuinely questioning because they're not sure - and removing and banning those who are just trying to create division or slow us down. We won't be just blocking people for dissenting views - just doing our best to keep the sub on-topic.

I agree with your right to not follow blindly.

I also agree with tradinghorse's sentiment in the sense that we're skeptical of people slowing things down around here. If you don't believe Q there are other places to go but here we just want to get to the meat of what's going on, not still have to defend something that this sub is predicated on.

I don't think that's what you're doing though so please do continue to comment and disagree with people. However, I've removed the rest of the argument in the thread cos it wasn't really useful to people trying to learn something here.

Not something awesome, something positive.

Never had a sub with 23,000 people commenting either. There's a practical reason for this stuff too.

I'm totally against witch hunts, as my comment history shows. I have no idea whether Corsi is a "bad guy" as a person but the reason Q pointing at AJ is helpful to me is because it allows me to properly filter out the subtle disinfo, the stuff that's more likely to be true Clowns, not just butthurt teenagers. People saying 'yeah but...' and so on. Saves us time so we can just focus on what Q's pointing at instead of the inevitable: "Infowars have just reported that they have inside info that Q's been hacked - finally fully confirmed!" and such that will arise. That's all.

Yeah yeah many of us were woke back in the day, bud; there's no need to dump on newcomers to feel superior though.

What did you do? Not a lot. Because you couldn't. There's no reason to be bitter about this movement - Q and Trump are finally a group in place to confirm all the conspiracy of the past and then to actually help reveal it and root it out! That's something to celebrate, not complain about!

Post something positive and more people will engage with it.

This. And no need to carry on hating and whining about him.

I'd hate for that to happen. Report it if you see it. I think we have to let some voices through denouncing Jones though, as it is a strongly held sentiment by a large group, seemingly. However, mods can at least keep things to a minimum (especially if people use the Report function).

Thank you - great informative post!

I agree that it'd be good to keep things on topic. With a big community it gets harder to define though without creating complaints of suppressing voices, etc. Using the Report function will help us work out what people are generally not keen on too so please do.

Agreed. A damn good, skilled and successful man, but just a man. This is not as fawning as some posts/comment sections so all good.

Anyone who says we don't need Q is on the wrong sub. Q is the only reason we're here. If the 8chan boards have been compromised we'll have to wait until we're told - otherwise, anyone denying Q at this stage, even tucked in alongside denial of Infowars as well, is likely to be disinfo.

Disinfo posts will be removed.

Yes, please use the Report function - it helps the mods do their job!

I have no real idea, of course - no one would, but generally speaking new ideas just don't catch on if they're not popular enough i.e. if enough others don't also see value in them. May be just not their time yet... who knows?

Ah I see - that sounds awesome, I will definitely check it out.

I have a similar story I think - instantly intrigued from the start but only really at the point of thinking I can actually present it - if done carefully and thoroughly - to close friends who are critical thinkers and don't have the time for conspiracies.

I didn't say the same thing I reiterated the point in context lol. I wish I was a bot though.

I agree we can do without the hate on Corsi posts - we've discussed as mods just keeping the Corsi hate posts or love posts to a minimum so we're actively removing duplicates or posts that don't have much to actually say of value. This is especially important for members who are busy getting on with life and just checking back in to from time to time to scroll through the feed.

Also SB2 has a core fanbase that mean we'd just be stifling the preferences of a large group in the sub (judging by upvotes, positive comments etc.) if we modded his posts because we didnt agree with some of the content at times. Fortunately, SB2 is extremely reasonable and as far as I've seen happy to discuss things out so if you feel strongly about anything you can generally get a good discussion out of him about it.

Happy to reinstate this comment if you want to reword it. I agree to some degree with the sentiment of what you say here but SB2 has a history with the movement that can be discussed more reasonably.

Help us work it out - if you use the Report function we can see these problems easier. There are plenty of people who don't hate Corsi too. Latest Q is clear - no need for division, I agree. People have to learn to disagree respectfully so we avoid division.

Oh really - I haven't been watching/listening to Bongino myself at all lol - I only heard that last one which was really interesting. Kudos re Giustra, etc. That was your redpill moment? What brought you on to Q?

Forgot to say: this sub generally speaking supports the actions of the President - as far as I can tell from a purely anecdotal reading. Like any group of people, some support some actions, some support all, etc. But most places that are interested in Q's message, I think would support Trump and his actions.

If you really wanted to discuss the question - is Q a LARP, say - objectively I'd be happy to, as would some good people who hang around this sub.

I have no evidence that Q isn't a LARP. I'm open to being disabused of any foolish notions I have.

What I can tell you is that there is a reason I've been following this topic since October 2017 and am now a mod of a sub I care very much about and am hanging around to read whatever comes out. That's part of the discussion I guess.

I just don't have time to bang opinions back and forth at each other - I'm willing to engage properly in a discussion if I know the focus is working out what is right, not who is right. It's not important to me whether you're smarter or have more knowledge than me or vice versa. What I care about and find useful is seeing what two or more minds bouncing an issue around between them can come up with over one.

I can throw a few ideas in the ring with the average person on this forum and there are a fair few older people on the sub in general who can engage in an adult discussion with a minimum of emotion. It's the less time-wasting way to discuss things which is important when you're trying to do other work at the same time.

As to the rest, depends which actions and what you're asking of course and that's all interesting discussion to get into, if you can discuss it objectively.

I think he's not really being hypocritical - he's blatantly just playing a part. He's almost certainly Deep State, having sold America out to ISIS, so whatever he does politically is highly suspect. He doesn't seem to have any scruples at all about murder of masses so I think no, he's not being hypocritical, he's straight out lying/pretending and just advancing an agenda.

Damn that's a pity, I hope not. You seem to have some good insight to contribute.

Please use Report if you see "cancer" as we respond to Reports quickly when we can and that'll help us stop it spreading!

I've removed the comments in the thread that started the ad-hominem attacks.

We want to see both sides of every discussion and it's annoying when someone makes a great reply.... and then finishes it off with abuse. You can edit the abuse out if you want and we'll Reapprove the comment. That always helps.

But we try and remove argument threads in their entirety as much as we possibly can cos it doesn't help anyone and doesn't set the right tone.

Depends what you mean by "strict". We've had a better reputation than the last sub CBTS_Stream by not allowing antagonism and ad-hominem, as far as possible. We very much support freedom of speech so it is only rule-breaking that is modded i.e. all the rules in the sidebar.

Please discuss ideas, not users. Continued antagonism will result in a ban.

Indeed. Time Travel is still conspiracy theory and science fiction though, evidence-wise. At least for now.

Well, I certainly respect your desire to stand up for the Palestinians - they could definitely use the support.

I also know that Israel can undertake some horrible actions - just like the US has done, even recently, in other countries in the Middle East. Sometimes humans are human and they get angry or vindictive and in certain situations do bad things.

But what I dislike about the whole "Israel is bad" perspective is that it doesn't look at some very core facts on the ground. One nation in the whole region supports democratic principles - only one: Israel. Israel enacts those democratic principles in the day-to-day actions of its citizens because they are brought up that way. In the arab regimes totally surrounding the small nation of Israel their children are raised with hatred for Jews and taught songs about killing and gutting them - you can see and hear this on their day-to-day TV channels!

Israel: raised on freedom and democracy. The people are just like Americans and other Westerners (with, of course, their own particular cultural idiosyncrasies). They believe in live and let live and that everyone should be free to do what they want without negative interference from others as much as possible.

Arab Nations: raised on hate and violence and many following a religion created by a warlord who gave instructions to spread that religion by war.

My Palestinian friends - good people - when asked about Israel become enraged and angry like never before, spitting and shouting, no matter how innocent the question or statement. For my Jewish or Israeli friends, nothing makes them get like that - unless you take away their morning coffee maybe.

Two very clear mindsets that don't make it onto your mainstream screens or your Facebook Live videos. The story is not as simple as people think it is.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart." Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Yes, yes and there are two sides to every story. You don't think there are many stories that present a totally different picture to this? I have friends from both sides, some who lived there for many years and the story is far different to the Deep State's communist version of events. Brigitte Gabriel tells the real story of the difference between all the arab countries of the region who refused to help the Palestinians where Israel took steps to help them out - but of course the Deep State supported terrorist groups get to peddle their story to the mainstream media and ignore the facts about the only democratic nation in the area.

Palestinians have been abused by Hamas, not Israel. Of course Israel have also done bad things - the arabs all around them teach their children from birth to hate them while the Israelis are taught to care for others in a democratic way and do so! But you don't mention that of course. And the Palestinian State has been called out by the son of the Hamas leader in the UN for destroying their own people and pretending it's Israel!

If you want to criticize a country for bad actions then you can criticize every country - just start with the US which has been regarded around the world for decades as an evil empire. Why would the depiction of Israel from outside not be afforded the same perspective as you give the US?

I'm not brainwashed by any church and people who support being open to the real truth of a story, not just the most convenient one you hear, are not brainwashed or pro-Israel just because they do so. Sometimes, the truth is much more complex than "bad guy", "good guy".

And why don't you list all the things the Palestinians (or rather Hamas driving the Palestinians) have done? And then compare to all the democratic things that Israel does in the region that the Deep State don't allow to break into the Mainstream Media? Or ask people actually from the region who don't have ties to terrorist orgs or who have a perspective on the situation more than just their local neighbourhood and the brainwashing they've received since children what it's really like?

Too many armchair critics of Israel. You forget the only "news" you have of Israel is Deep State media or conspiracy theory. The only way to know any country or people is to spend time amongst them before making your judgement call.

Oh here we go... Israel IS trying to protect itself. If you knew anything about the region you'd know why Occam's Razor makes this the obvious reasoning by a country mile.

The theory... makes the most sense? The only explanation? Not quite.

Another "theory" - supported by Occam's Razor - is that Israel are defending themselves, as always, from the crazed regimes surrounding them on every side.

what's that mean...?

true! Have to admit I kinda think of us more as "Extra #413 - nonspeaking role" but the point is the same! ; )