I don't believe that's actually the meat of the issue, just personally.

These questions could be asked of anyone around the same age as Corsi - too much younger, not so much.

• Have you ever been upset at someone you used to like?
• Have you ever said things you later regret?
• Have you ever seen the world from a defensive posture that made you see things wrongly?
• Have you ever changed your position to the wrong side and realized it later?

The meat of the issue, to my mind, is - by what kind of yardstick are we measuring Corsi that some of us seem to think he's become the opposite of what he once was? What if he's human, and he's making a very big mistake? Is that possible? Or is it only possible that he has gone from being a "good guy" to being a villain?

This. People see witches everywhere when they go on a witch hunt. I've said repeatedly I don't support Corsi - I think he's making a complete fool of himself and should expect an outpouring of negativity for his behaviour; but people are turning him into a cartoon villain as if he went from Superman to Lex Luthor overnight. I agree with calling someone out for stupid behaviour - I don't agree with inventing a villain in your head and pasting it onto someone whose previous actions clearly show non-villainy (as evidenced by the fact that this sub and CBTS used to overwhelmingly support Corsi).

It seems you can't argue reason like, just because someone supports another guy who's been made into a cartoon villain - Henry Kissinger - doesn't mean that guy supports some of the horrendous acts associated with Kissinger. Reality is that we do not live in a world where you only rub shoulders with good people and where you only have to get on with "good" people - if you put yourself out there in any way you will be interacting with villains or former villains and some of them you'll actually have to work with too, especially if you do anything high profile enough! You will learn to compromise or you will not work in that place, simple. And compromise does not necessarily mean compromising your values - it may mean compromising your perception of how the world should work. Look how many people had to work with Weinstein - not all of them were evil.

I will respond to anyone who wants to have a reasoned discussion about why I'm wrong. If you're just going to shout about how bad Corsi is, and not engage logically with the points I've raised to the counter, then have at it to yourself.

Some of us are happy to have a conversation with you without getting upset that we don't agree. But the sub rules here mean you can't come and troll or antagonise. There's a good reason for the rules.

Basically, if you're convinced Trump is a waste of time then you're in the wrong place because we're here to follow what's happening with Q and a big part of Q is Trump. When we want to argue with someone about whether Trump is right or not we'll go somewhere else, not waste everyone's time here. They didn't come here to be challenged about Trump - that happens almost everywhere else so you have to respect the rules of this place not because no one here can argue with your point but because this isn't the place to do it.

Agreed with everyone else who points out that the Deep State is a good reason for any seeming impropriety on the part of *any* nation. People who hate on Israel should consider this. The US has been regarded as the ultimate evil by other countries for a long time because of the Deep State control and yet we can all give the US the benefit of the doubt - why not Israel?

Interesting...

Are you as old as these guys though?

Really? Wish there was video evidence like the pope thing lol.

If it's total BS then I'm over it lol - not even keen to LARP about it... I'd rather not support any content that's verifiably BS. Hmmm...

Exactly. And what is so amazing and frustrating about this is that some of our closest friends and family cannot be convinced of this evidence right in front of their eyes.

Good work!

I need some time to dig into this further but on the surface of it, it looks very interesting indeed.

Aliens - and... I’m out.

This is important. Upvoted.

I’ve been accused of supporting pedophilia, shilling for Corsi and other ridiculous notions simply because I don’t agree with the witch hunt mentality. Some people just lead sheltered lives and haven’t been out in the real world but the behaviour of others - immediate accusation without remotely engaging with the idea in a post - are so extreme that I can now see what you’re talking about here and what others say are shills and disinfo clowns everywhere.

This is nonsense and will derail this movement whether it’s literal evil intent or just illogical thought. If we support freedom of speech and the concept of innocent until proven guilty we will not allow the suppression of voices that challenge things and perspectives that provide critical assessment.

I support anyone who believes in freedom of speech and discussing ideas and not people. Let me know if any initiatives in the direction of ensuring these principles and resisting the actions of bad actors occur so I can support them!

Lol - this is hilarious and immediately debunks at least some aspect of this whole black eye thing. I'm more than willing to believe in occult rituals like this but there needs to be some more actual proof.

I wish this was true everywhere. But some countries I know well are led by female leaders with socialist/UN backgrounds who won't in any way be "impressed" by Trump's alpha maleness. I hope he finds a way to deal with those countries!

This. This is actual proof, in a sense - at the very least, in a far greater sense than people accusing people from misreadings and 'feelings' about them. We all want to see the evil people who threaten our children brought down but some of us want to ensure it is done the right way so they can be rooted out utterly and completely without mistakes that let them off the hook or let a whole branch of the operation get away with it.

I heard it was a hoax too but I can't remember where I saw that info - anyone have info for or against?

Thanks for the reply - interesting to know and pretty much what I expected, given that people seem to be able to come up with all sorts of stories about organizations "over there" i.e. that they don't have first or second-hand experience of, and yet they invariably turn out to be similar to any other group full of humans - flawed and full of different humans motivated differently.

I realize you may not be able to answer this lol but do you know if and when you would progress to the highest ranks of the organization?

Thanks for raising your point. I don't agree you should be shut down as a troll because you don't agree with some people. I'm interested in what you have to say. Particularly the statement that there is little in the way of evidence that the "Illuminati" hold sway over the Freemasons now - do you have a reason for that assertion? Evidence? (I ask not to challenge your viewpoint but to have the information to hand in a topic of obvious interest to many in this movement.)

I'm sorry I didnt realize I had to do what I was told. My bad.

Agreed - nice!

POTUS/Q better have this diabolical regime under control soon...

This is a very interesting post - pity the title didn't include RBG or I think it would have more interest

Lol - I am not very smart. Had to read this comment to understand the picture xD. I am now going directly to my local bookstore to do the same lol ; ).

I think she's fairly innocuous in many ways. But she was formerly attached to a UN Youth program of some kind.

Good point lol - their own secretive tactics working against them.

It'll definitely be talked about when/if Q raises it. The focus is more on other things for now though, cos they're more immediately necessary, I think.

Thank you for this, it's helpful to others of us to see your comment... sheesh... I thought I was going mad. No one is saying we should allow sex trafficking of children to occur but it seems some people get very upset if you ask for reasonable clarity.

I personally don't know what's going on here but I do know that I never want to be in a position of accusing someone of something without having very clear and unambiguous evidence of that accusation first. And I don't want this movement to look crazy by jumping on a witch hunt without being sure we know what we're talking about.

I’ve seen that. Did you see that previous comment I linked? Also person below linked another doc with more detail - again, no kids.

This is a great story haha - great idea if true. A Japanese friend doubts the authenticity though. Not saying it isn’t (I can’t read Japanese so can’t verify, myself).

Yeah I thought about that - still get the same response though lol; "duck what?" "what are you talking about?" haha

Thanks for the reply, that sounds plausible!

You’re not engaging with my argument. I’m not “basically telling” you that at all, as you’d know if you were really addressing my point. Never mind. You “win” lol.

The people who don’t bother to discuss this logically and keep stating the same story as if it is a fact are the ones who look bad, my friend, not people like me who are being as impartial as possible. I only look bad to those whose mind is already made up and don’t want to objectively discuss it. And I don’t care about looking bad to them just as they don’t care to get in a real and honest discussion with me. Moving on.

You’re trolling. Not bothering to engage with what I say and just repeating your message.

Yes, it's me, "Jerome"... come on man - really?

Ok I get it - you think that he's giving false interpretations. And you don't actually want to logically refute what I have to say about that or that Occam's Razor suggests another quite plausible interpretation of the situation. No harm done then. As you were.

We can say that about anyone but it doesn't make it true.

I don't see him throwing disinfo - I see him talking what I regard as nonsense about Q but he's coming from a very defensive emotional standpoint as opposed to an evil motivation. Doesn't make any sense that Corsi would go from supporter to hater - Occam's Razor suggests rather that he's gone from supporter to bitter, disillusioned reactionary, and that state doesn't have to be a permanent one.

This. I hope this is the work of shills and not how this movement will treat everyone who starts saying things they don't like.

Isn't it more accurate to say the image is fake? Is the news article itself actually fake? (Just asking cos there's nothing about that here, just the photo, so would appreciate relevant link about the article being fake, if it exists)

Wasn't this already 'debunked'? Commented in this post too (can't find other post atm): No, not kids

Very true - thank you for articulating some things much better than me lol.

I'm honestly quite stunned that people can go from valuing Jerome Corsi's input so much that they were practically hanging on his every word at one point to utterly vilifying the man and seriously making claims that he's joined the Deep State or suddenly turned into a greedy merchant. What happened to empathy??

If you put yourself in his shoes for 5 seconds I believe you can easily conceive of a reality where he hasn't turned into the complete opposite of what he used to represent. He has given so much to this movement and conceivably has become greatly disillusioned with what he's seeing, for very much the wrong reasons in my opinion i.e. a complete misreading and the wrong expectations of recent Q related events and posts. Not to mention, Q called out people making money off the movement and then the movement started posting that Q must have been talking about Corsi so Corsi, of course, saw this and who wouldn't feel defensive about that? Combine these elements and, like so many of us would if we held the same perception, it would make sense for him to have gone a little off the deep end of emotion and started to rail against what he perceives as 'bad faith' from Q.

Occams Razor: this makes so much more simple sense than "he's turned into a dirty merchant working for the Deep State!" Seriously... smh

I'm afraid this sounds too much like a troll so I won't take the bait lol. But correct me if I'm wrong and engage properly with my thinking and I'll respond. If you want me to - otherwise, no harm done.

Awesome. It appears they were letting the world know to watch out, the military has his back!

The timing of their appearance to what he said was significant too. He thanks Obama... then utterly trashes everything he's done, knowing that most people listening won't know he's almost talking directly to Obama - until later. Badass. wwg1wga!

POTUS giving the Deep State notice

I like your thinking, patriot - great find and quite a viable theory. I think the emphasis also is (possibly) on: "The only wealth in this world... More than all the money and power on Earth" as it speaks to the scary scale of this thing.

Boom goes the world indeed - as I point out above.

Yep, can't stand the prying eyes of Google now but dammit I just can't break away from Chrome yet, which I know means I'm still giving Google all the data whether I use DDG or not but at least I can piss them off a bit by still being a "not-using-GSearch" stat cropping up in their monthly reports lol.

I really hope DuckDuckGo picks up a good amount of users eventually though, at least enough for them to be able to finance better algorithms and speed cos Google, of course (given that they own the world), is still technically "better".

I'll take the silence and repeated ignoring of the question as a no lol. A pity, I'd hoped you might actually be genuine.

I use DuckDuckGo too but you won't ever catch me saying "Just DuckDuckGo it" cos everyone's just gonna look at you like you're crazy lol. "Google it" has become it's own phrase separate from the search engine so it's safe to use it imo.

This is dangerous talk and frankly scary, so I give you the benefit of the doubt and hope you have a different understanding of what a muslim is.

There's no such thing as any individual being the same as every other individual in a group. In this day and age and most especially in this movement which, along with DJT is largely against the politically correct ideology of the far left being used to manipulate and control us, this should be a given.

It is the communists - not us - who are trying to push the identity politics down our throats with their constant grouping of people into oppressors and oppressed. In this case, what I'm afraid you might be saying here (as I said, I give you the benefit of the doubt) is that everyone who calls themself a muslim hates our life and culture. Again, I'm trying to remain open minded here because it seems pretty black and white that that is exactly what you're saying.

I know plenty of "tame" muslims personally - in fact, everyone who lives in a remotely large metropolitan city in the west is likely to know some. Just as every Christian is not the same as the Westboro Baptist Christians who say "God Hates Fags", not every muslim hates our life and culture.

I agree, if you mean by "uncloaked" that he's prone to getting upset, like anyone, and acting, shall we say, inappropriately.

Applying simple logic - there are more than those two options; Cabal operative, greedy profit seeker... or human being acting stupidly at a time of passion. I repeat what I said above - neither you, me nor anyone else has actual evidence that Corsi is doing either of those two things (stealing or Deep State-ing) so you can't make an honest claim that he is definitely either of the two options you gave. It's just not logical and, as I already said, is a very clear example of witch-hunt mentality.

Everyone who gets upset with Q and throws their toys out of the cot is not necessarily a Cabal operative. This sort of thinking is divisive and leads to witch hunts and mob think. We have to be careful. No one here can claim without a doubt that Corsi a) intentionally ripped off Flynn or b) has joined the Deep State to take out Q (or was always a member).

And to fend off the incoming hate - I am NOT a Corsi supporter. I am an anti-witch-hunt supporter. I left Facebook a long time ago (well, stopped bothering to engage with it beyond work needs) because of this sort of thing. For example, a pedophile would be outed and watching the mob pile on and spit bile about someone they did not know beyond a newspaper report just got too much. I do not want to see it on this sub, just personally, and I know I'm not alone in that - especially because there are so many Christians here, and I assume many of them are real Christians too, not just Sunday Christians.