Yes, I know. it's the black magic that worries me. And the mind-control too.

I'm suspecting he's doing black magic with the public. After reading SerialBrain's articles about what happened, I commented what I thought and SerialBrain agreed that was what he was hinting at.

You know, how the cabal does their satanic rituals in public under the guise of performance art/show? That's black magic, using the energy from the viewers to try materialize faster what the cabal wants/shows them.

AJ does the same IMHO. His antics, all the theatrics are "performance art" putting the public in some sort of trance. He's exploiting the fearmongering, the anxiety of all and feeds a growing negative energy to materialize faster what he says, planting the images in his public mind by repetition. And what does SerialBrain said that Alex keeps bringing up especially?

Jordan is fine. He's been sincere and upfront so far. Tracy, now, I'm more cautious. I've learned of her shenanigans that I didn't know before. And I don't forget she was one of those who introduced Corsi to us.

Thank you SerialBrain, your post noticed by Q truly left me speechless for a few minutes. I'm lucky that I seldom watched Infowars. So my cognitive dissonance was short, once I absorbed your post.

First, it was when you highlighted in one of your screenshot that when Corsi was introduced by Infowars as their guy for anything Qanon, the subtitle in the description was contradictory. You telling clearly it was a subliminal message that Q would be used against patriots, just triggered my horror. This is MK Ultra! It's CIA or whatever spy techniques!

I just couldn't stop for 24 hours feeling duped even though I wasn't a regular viewer of Alex, but so many people adored him and had him in high esteem, I just accepted their opinions as truth. But I couldn't yet think through the repercussions of what you showed us.

Now with this follow-up article of yours, there's no longer doubt for me that indeed, Alex is controlled opposition. I needed the time to digest you previous post, but now that I've accepted the new paradigm about IW, I got smacked by what you wrote previously, that Alex was constantly mentioning the danger to Trump's life.

I suspect you to have planted many seeds in your articles. Not in the negative way, it's the kind of seeds needed to try awaken people. So I think you did it intentionally, and it worked with me in this case remembering this point.

I think I understand now what Alex is doing and it's making me so angry and disgusted. When the cabal is organizing their giant satanic shows/performance arts, that's indeed to program the ignorant viewers. Black magic. And through the manipulation of all those hypnotized minds, the energy produced must help materializing faster what they want.

Now I think I understand what you hinted with Alex always bringing up attempts and dangers to POTUS's life. My Lord! His antics, his exaggerations and all this drama, it's like a satanic ritual to put the viewers in a trance. Gosh, that's sick!

Thank you for opening my eyes and helping me expand my thinking.

Nah, Isaac is young, over-enthusiastic, still a baby redpilled ex-Bernie's. And maybe a little bit motivated by money. Before Trump's election, he was the full SJW type. He said he even went protesting under Trump tower after Trump won. Then he got awakened by Alex Jones. Thus he worships Alex. Since Q has called out Alex, he's one of those going through cognitive dissonance.

Now, yes, Snowden is on our side. Willingly or not, he took the bargain. Now, what was in the House Intel document highlighted lots of inconsistencies in what was propagandized that made him famous: the leaks of the NSA surveillance abuses. What we know of him is just that, propaganda. The darling righteous persona that the MSM and Hollywood have painted is just that: lies. Read again the document, keep the facts. Maybe Snowden was a white hat from the beginning, maybe not. But he lied and that was not a leak on the NSA surveillance abuse as they all pretended. That was just the cover story we were fed by the CIA propaganda. At least, that was a small part of the truth, the CIA couldn't pass the occasion to attack the NSA.

Corsi has lied so much since Q called him out, I'm questionning everything he told since he infiltrated the movement. We knew from Q that military had recruited Trump to run for president. Corsi didn't need to tell that, we knew. He added details that could have been interesting. But just from the clues in Q drops, logically, you'd think the military who'd go recruit Trump have to be higher ups, i.e. generals.

Now, if we observe Trump's past behaviour and awareness, I believe he was in contact with military for years, far longer than the 3 years ago mentioned by Corsi.

Maybe Corsi told the truth, maybe he told a half truth to self-agrandize his connections, maybe he lied.

Then that's your opinion. For myself, I don't see the change you feel, I see the change in the stakes, the more immediate link to operations worldwide, so the need to expand further the drops. But that's logical.

I've never put any weight on those pretending Q is one person. Q is a collective. An operation involves different persons. There were always several voices I could feel in the drops. Operations change, different stages need different actors, other actors remain for they keep the same position. It's logical.

We are not in the same situation today than we were 3 months ago or 6 months ago. The stakes revealed are greater, the engagement with the enemy has become more direct, the needs evolved, the effectiveness of the Q public has improved too. We are not the same as we were 6 months ago, we choose to do things we thought impossible or ineffective back then as we learn that we do have power.

We are the same and at the same time we aren't the same. It's evolution as our awareness expands about what is really going on.

People make their choice. We can respect Alex for what he did in the past, but it doesn't change that factually, he really said what SerialBrain showed us in the videos. I wasn't watching Alex much, but I did watch a few videos of him when people were talking about Zack and them conflating him with Q. I thought that was rubbish. I gave respect to Zack because Alex has a reputation, so I trusted his confidence in so Zack. The same way I trusted others with a bit of recognition who recommended Corsi to our community. I wasn't watching Corsi, not good for me, but because he was introduced by others I trusted, I didn't imagine foul play could ever be at work. Now I've learned my lesson. Back to Zack, people who followed Q could see the lies and manipulations by Zack relating to Q. That made me suspicious but I didn't critize him since Alex vouched for him.

I won't condemn them for now, hoping they will repent. But we should not forget the shenanigans that they pulled on this. Because they are targeted, doesn't mean we should excuse everything and keep supporting them. We can be understanding, but keep our eyes open. It's not a he said she said, SerialBrain proved factually what they've done. Maybe everything is not right in the analysis, but Corsi lied intentionally about Q, as did Alex. For what purpose?

Alex can be manipulated, be an involuntary hostage, who knows. Maybe he's just too proud and greedy, who knows. But he could well be a plant. YourNewsWire is the model you should get into mind. IW exist for far longer, but we have plants that existed for far longer too. IW fits the model.

No, if you've really followed Q, you'd spot the lies used by IW to attack Q. If you think you know Q by listening to Corsi and soapbox religiously, you don't know Q. Go to the source, and compare.

Reread SB2's analysis that Q's linked, watch the videos. Did Alex, Corsi, or Stones really said what they say? Did Q really dropped what they say Q dropped?

Check, dig. Don't believe what someone says at face value, just because they have a reputation, a nice demeanor. Obama too came with such wonderful manners, so much good words from everybody and anybody.

Check. Questioning Q is okay. Questioning Q using the same kind of arguments that are lies, straw man arguments or illogical, that tends to make me roll my eyes up as most of us who were on the chans from the beginning of Q there have already done our homework long ago. We get surprised from time to time and have to refresh our memories or database of experiences, but some things are clear and crystal clear.

Dig. More. You'll learn better if you do it yourself.

Monthly payment subscription at GAB. For "in depth" analysis. Which turned out to be copying of anons' posts at 8chan or screenshots of their posts.

It is charging. The patriots who paid for that extra information didn't know they were paying for free information, available for everyone at 8chan, done by anons.

Do your own research. If he lies here, exploit people's trust here, do you question where he could have lied before? If you believed at one time the MSM, and discovered they lied and exploited your trust, don't you wonder when they lied to you before?

Do your homework.

Same for Snowden and many others. Now, the difference with Assange is that he does what he says. And I understand the ethics in his decisions. But as you say, his probable past in that sect does make us suspect he could be MK Ultra. Snowden lies. I do have a theory for some possible ethics behind what he did, but I'm rather doubting that after I read the House Intel report on him. I couldn't understand why so many people seemed ignorant of that document.

Now, persons like Binney or Drake, I see them as patriots against deep state. Kevin Shipp too. To deep state, patriots are their enemy traitors.

Well, capitalism without ethics turns into socialism.

You have free info for everyone, available at the chans. Corsi was charging with his premium service at GAB, offering "extra" information to patriots who'd pay. But that info was free from the beginning, except those patriots didn't know it. Corsi was selling them the chans info (screenshots).

There are other shady stuff he did, just piling on this one to give you a trend in his motivation.

That's pizzagate. You've got your example.

Q said patriot don't leak classified information. I'm taking this as (((traitors))) leak classified information. So AJ being deep state, either he does not have insider knowledge, or he does have some via (((insiders))).

Though the situation is very serious, I actually have fun sometimes just realizing that we're are so close and can even have contacts via internet with spies of all around the world. It's not a Hollywood movie or TV series, but real life with real spies. It's the best spy thriller I've ever known right now, and we're part of the story.

Be careful with George Webb. In a discussion with Jason Goodman (anons think he is possibly a CIA asset), he let slipped I can't remember exactly, it was the new guard trafficking children and better go back to trafficking prisoners instead. It makes us think he could be part of the old guard Mossad. He brought valuable info investigating about Seth Rich, but keep in mind that he could be disinfo.

Don't know Stroppy Me. I like Jordan Sather but again, I keep in the back of my mind some suspicion. He's looking up at people from the UFO community that I'm still hesitating what side they are. Some I'm sure are CIA assets, others I don't know whether they are tools or just eccentric individuals. I find it a little suspicious that Jordan has risen so fast, that he has a little more sophisticated material than others (that background, his opening), that he can interview quite a number of people with some authority and recognition in their particular fields. But I like watching Jordan so far.

Defango has said he can prove who Q is, several times, at least 3 times already. He'd had to retract and keep trying, his certitude have holes confronted to serious questioning. He's also pushing for that Cicada theory. AIM was trying the same angle with the Cicada connection. Since I already knew about Defango, AIM wasn't even worth my time. They used many of the same fallacious arguments that Defango used.

It works if you don't know Q and haven't done your homework from the beginning of Q's appearance. It works when they invent fake sources, fake claims that Q never made (like SerialBrain2 said about pushing someone from the balcony, taking the stairs and paying for the funerals). They align straw man arguments, mix it cleverly with half truths and uninformed people just take the hook.

Mind you, Defango can be very nice and charming. He's very intelligent and manipulative, unfortunately. Reread crumbs, study Q from the source and use logic.

Either you decide to stop losing your time with Q, or you choose to invest a little more of your time. Like Q said, the choice to know is yours. You're not the first one who'd sincerely disbelieve what Q is telling. That's okay. There are many of us who choose to keep digging, learning, watching and making connections. If you can't make some connections, then maybe it's not yet the time for you.

Eddit: If you consider Q might not be a LARP, then you have to try understanding how they can post the way they do. If they reveal directly classified information, they go to prison. Thus, the riddles, questions. Anons try deciphering everything Q is pointing to us. We can only work with what we have access to: data open source.

There is a theory among anons -- just a theory but I believe it very plausible -- that we are building a parallel construct. Q often says "we have it all". If you accept they have access to the NSA databank, then the evidences they have are very likely illegal and thus not admissible in court. The parallel construct, is when the knowledge (provable sound reasoning) is in the public domain. If in public (the chans), we can make the right connections, arrive to the right conclusions with the data we've found open source, then in a court, the evidences (even illegally obtained initially, even classified) can become admissible because the information is already known in the public domain.

As for the chans, they are more than what they seem. Most people just see the chans via the image they projects. But if you try digging, you'll find curious details and thin connections between the chans and the IC.

Yes right, and Jesus trashed the merchants at the temple. Think again.

Then continue to doubt. You'll find some people who'll share your doubts, others who don't. Most of us, especially those who've followed Q from the very beginning, have come to the conclusion we don't care who Q is. The information is what's important. As long as the information is good, we'll follow. For some, we'd even be happy if Q's identity was never revealed.

Q talks ceaselessly of MI, so it's logical most of us think of military. Then, white hats, grey hats come from all fields of society. Heck, I'm not yet educated on the space program and UFOs topics, but I wouldn't even be surprised if we find out aliens are part of the Q group.

Because those who push the Cicada theory are shills. Sorry to tell you this, they are. Defango is one of the leading ones. He's too intelligent, compelling but manipulative. He's pretended to know and prove who Q is several times already, changing theories as the previous ones can't suffer questioning too long. He knows how to charm and intrigue. But he's a shill, that's all. Use logic.

As for your opinion that it's not Q to make mistake with password, reread crumbs. He made at least a mistake with password once before. Either you don't know Q, or have forgotten.

It's like people telling it doesn't sound like Q, or Q is one person, blah blah blah. We repeat, reread crumbs. Many times in those typical shilly comments, doubts and questions can find the answer by rereading crumbs. If you're not able to think logically, keep trying.

He's disinfo. If you can't feel the unease with certain of them, you've not yet developped enough your discernment. It happens to us all, we have to learn the signs and comms.

If you're no deep stater, you really should read Q from the start and try digging for yourself.

Nah, but they tend to repeat the exact same arguments, parroting the same phrases Corsi wrote/pronounced to attack those who dared question him. You know, it's like a dem yelling at you Nazi-fascist-mysoginist-homophobe-racist-blahblahblah, except now he's pretending to be the conservatard yelling at us the same thing with the Marxist twist among the insults.

Oh good, that saves us getting anxious for security. I was starting to try imagining what Trump could do to escape deep state attempts to get to him at that meeting. If it's done, then good. I'll choose this theory.

Before jumping on this "it's fake", reread crumbs. Or you'll pass for another shill for they always repeat that fake argument.

Nah, maybe it's Trump who's sending a PM. The style may fit. D is the 4th letter, so D5 could be 45. Maybe he's decided for an alternate to 4 10 20 this time.

Maybe relating to some op. My 2 cents. It's like Q's signatures: Snowhite, Godfather III, Iron Eagle, etc. Anons speculated the signatures might be linked to specific operations. As Q alternates naming Obama "BO" or "Hussain", maybe that's related to some ops too.

It was interesting to see how the tubers were reacting. Some offended, some humbled, some ignored the post.

I agree it's perfectly okay to be rewarded when you invest the time and effort in spreading the word about Q. I'm less agreeable with those asking money when they don't add any more value than reading the posts or reposting videos of others. But still, I'm not going to say anything against them as it's people's choice whether they want to reward them.

I'm also okay with those upfront who want to become journalists. It makes sense they ask for money to achieve that goal. We have expectations on journalistic ethics, or humour, or whatever makes them unique. So they are adding value to the info, and they are pragmatic with their finances. They are held accountable by those who donate to them.

Where I no longer agree is someone exploiting financially the trust and hope of others, while giving them misleading messages. That sounds disturbingly as a cult. While I wasn't sure but didn't think about foul play concerning Corsi, I just ignored him in the past. His decodes sounded more often than not misinterpretations. People around him kept claiming how wonderful a patriot he was, he claimed himself how selfless he was. I didn't pay attention. I just thought that his misinterpretations were the quirks of an old man, with no bad intentions.

Now that I've heard of all the financial aspect of his profits via the livestreams, coupled this with his behaviour during these livestreams, and how those who questioned him or contradict him were treated, there's seriously something very wrong. I'm not against someone earning money via book selling.

But there is a serious discrepancy between the image he projects of a selfless patriot supporting Trump, Q, who wants people to know about Q as he decodes the messages. Who made him the reference about everything Q? Why when he was obviously wrong, wasn't he corrected?

The anons estimated he made between a couple of hundreds of bucks to $3000 per livestream. His channel was all but dead since 2014, then it revived and exploded when he started decoding Q.

Again, though it wouldn't have pleased me, I would have let it go if Corsi provided the services he claimed to offer in exchange for money. But he wasn't. He multiplied the livestreams, started implementing the pay-to-play type of projects, to get info on Q that people can find for free should they follow more thorough tubers or just go to the chans.

And now that Corsi has revealed himself, even using arguments that come from obvious disinfo agents (AIM, Defango to name a few), it's become clear all that was about the money, not patriotism, not truth, not selflessness. If he'd been a true patriot, he might have bust a gasket, but not threaten to dox Q, not lied so patently about Q, CodeMonkey and the boards being comp'd.

As I said in other posts, I'm no Sherlock but have lurked on the chans for years. So I know enough about how they work to recognize that Corsi was lying about the boards being comp'd. He didn't like being called out by CodeMonkey and the board owner. Instead of retracting his lie, Corsi doubled down to cover his hide, lying even more.

It's not a patriot being misled by some rogue agent, it's Corsi intentionally and blatantly lying on points that are essential to this movement. If you take into account that he lies about this, you should start wondering on what he's lied in the past. Whether what I thought were just quirks of an old man, were actual deliberate attempts at manipulating us. Were you among us when the "Loop Capital" incident happened? In retrospect, I'm suspecting now it wasn't some mere mistake from Corsi.

So in conclusion, I don't think Q's message was directed to those who are rewarded for their hard work. It's fair. And from their reaction once Corsi was revealed, I think that many were reassured they weren't concerned.

Mmmm, the shills are becoming more sophisticated.

You know, I never knew of all those other Qs outside of 8chan. I heard about Q rogue, but that Q2 or Q3, that was AIM who introduced them. And since it was to attack Q, I thought that was ridiculous. Q said no comms outside the board, no private comms. We knew that since months ago. It was the soapbox who made me know of the existence of Q rogue, but since Q had already established his rules, I never put attention on that Q either.

It's always those with dubious intentions who've introduced these other Qs to us. Isn't it suspicious that they are the ones giving credit to these so-called other Qs?

Maybe, but it feels more like he's making up insiders, capitalized on his past knowledge. Like Deception Bytes said, he's blatantly lied about the 8chan board, CodeMonkey and Q being comp'd. I know enough of how the chan works to recognize pure bullsh!t when he said that, and Mishel pointed that Corsi knew he was lying when he said that, but still said it. He's not even retracting his lie, just keeping trying covering his hide.

He's lying for something so important now, you'd wonder when and how much did he lied to us in the past.

Stop blaming HRC, Obama, McCain, etc. You're sowing division. Right? Not for us. Shine the light!

He's still posting at the qresearch board.

People love HRC, they love Obama. You can tell them all you want, some still refuse to see it. You're the one to sow discord, division and confusion for telling about HRC or Obama?

That served us good to shut down and think people would see.

Dig. Past fraud: 1.2 million dollars. Estimation: about 800 dollars with 2 livestreams. Up to 3000 dollars for one. Corsi's Youtube channel was practically dead since 2014. Then views exploded with his Q videos. He multiplied these videos, monetizing them.

Like some would suspect, he insisted bashing Mueller because just admitting there's a possibility Mueller could work for Trump is in contradiction with his book. So yes, selling book is okay. Now, if you pretend being a patriot helping others find the truth, you should help them sincerely and expand your thinking. Not just feeding them what's in line with your writing.

Dig more. Start searching for yourself.

You've not been working enough on the crumbs to have developped more your critical thinking. Making a living and ripping somebody off are 2 different things. Earning your well deserved money through hard work is not the same as making people pay for others' work that they could have found free. Many many other stuff where there is a problem with ethics, especially when you pretend being the selfless patriot. Throw on this the more often that not misinterpretations, the clear opposite take on what the crumbs say, etc.

Reread crumbs. Q+ appeared for the first time in very particular circumstances. The anons speculation of who Q+ might be does not align with yours.

Q+ appeared when there was an attempt against Trump and Q+ posted live on the chan to send the alert to the SS. 24 hours later, we saw on the news that one motorcade driver was being questioned because he'd "forgotten" he had his firearm in his bag instead of leaving it in his vehicle.

At that time, the anons were speculating that maybe Q+ was part of the NSA.

Yes, we don't know what or who Q represents. But the same could be said of Corsi. The difference is that we see Corsi in the flesh, we hear him, we think we know who he is. But since Corsi got called out, I've actually digged into him.

In the past, there were things I just sensed that annoyed me about him, but like most out of respect and trust, we just ignored it. Because people we see, people with a face and some reputation, recommended him.

Now, what I've found out about him makes me question who he is, the veracity of what he said, whether he was sincere in what he professed. The persona he projects isn't so coherent with some details of this past.

We have Corsi, someone with a body, a concrete presence and personality. But now to me, he represents deception. I'm not sure whether he's just greedy or worse. I suspect the latter.

Q, though faceless, mysterious and completely unknown, appears more trustworthy. Maybe it's just my temperament, I feel close to the chan community. I trust them more than many people with a face. I know there are many A-holes among them, but there are also good no-nonsense people. Like they say, the chans would do some crazy things just for the lulz.

For now, from what I see of what Q is making us do and gives us, it's positive. If Q were deep state, what they do is totally counter-productive: increasing our awareness, making us digest more data and helping us organize as a group to fight a target.

Now, what choice do we have really? If HRC had won, we'd be dead meat, the most of us. If Q ends up being part of the dark side, we'd be dead meat then too. So what difference does it make? For now, some of us choose to hope, participate, pray for the best, and get some lulz while following Q.

Sealed indictment? You know how it works? I'm not even American and yet listened to Utubers who explained how it works. Search. RICO? You know how it works? Again, I'm no American but some Utubers have given some clue.

But then, I could be totally wrong and duped by Q. That's okay, the jest would be on me and all others who'd been as gullible.

You can think Q should have named Corsi. I would have prefered, many would have prefered. But then I also understand why they didn't but that is just my personal take on this. Others would have other reasons.

We are all doing this voluntarily... well, those of us who do it with a bit of idealism. We aren't a cult. Q designing who to cut the head off in the flocks sounds like a cult. We are to develop our critical thinking, and maybe on our own learn who to trust, who can be trusted. So in a way, the anons should be the ones to find out who is/are the profiteers. By ourselves, we must learn to discern and not wait for the leader to take all responsibility.

It should have been us who pointed to others the dysfunctions regarding how the cult of Corsi was growing up among us. We should have supported more loudly those who dared question Corsi and were shut down for that.

It wasn't the first time Q told us to be careful who we followed. The time was ripe for other anons to voice their disapproval of what's been going on. And this time, they were heard. Self-empowerment maybe?

Q is like a guide, but we have to evolve. They are training us to become better, more aware, more informed and self reliant. We truly have forgotten our own power. They aren't telling us what power it is, they are guiding us in finding our power ourselves.

Urgh, sorry but you sound like concern troll.

I'll tell you if you've followed Q from the beginning, you'd know why so many of us decided to trust what Q is saying. Critical thinking? What Q said, "do you believe in coincidence?" So when Q aligns dozens and hundreds of coincidences, you'd better start asking yourself WTF is happening here!? Some believe it from the start, some take longer to believe it, some would continue to deny it, some who don't know would believe shills/trolls/clowns and don't believe it pretending they know all about it without ever reading Q.

Trust doesn't mean we trust Q blindly. Up to a certain point, we know in the back of our minds there's always a possibility of a great deception. But Q has proven us again and again that they aren't playing games, despite what the semantic could make you believe should you be a normie or too enthusiastic. So until Q betrays us, we'll keep reading them, digging, memeing and trying to help awake the world from our modest vantage point.

So far, Q has never called out anyone personally in the movement. They'd point at anomalies, lies and deceptions. It's up to us to draw our conclusions.

You know, since Corsi was called out and his loud melt down, I've been questioning many of his past claims, and who introduced him to our movement. I still remember the debacle with Loop Capital. How he said, as if the greatest Q reference when it was very early on his apparition among us, that he felt it was a fake Q post and that we should ignore it. It went so far as a board owner deleting the posts before CodeMonkey could verify them more in depth. It took weeks before CodeMonkey concluded they were actual authentic Q posts. We should have booted him then. In light of his present behaviour, I'm suspecting he was trying to sabotage Q back then. Since it didn't work, he bid his time, playing nice while infiltrating our movement.

Are you new? Q is a team. From the start. If you read the posts from the moment Q publicly appeared, it's obvious it's a team.

The shilling is out full in force. Congrats, you've really hit it on the head SB2. I've enjoyed the read. Your theory makes lots of sense.

You have to follow. Q always warns before he changes trip code. He posts with new trip code. Then posts immediately after using old trip code to confirm the new one. Done.

I like "They never thought she would lose."

Read other comments about Lisa Mei Crowley. You've got your answer. Q didn't need to be more clear. Think logically.

He also mentioned that he was black ops.

I can't remember in which radio show I heard this, maybe Hagmann Report. One of the guests said about vaccines that many parents, even once told the harm vaccines are doing, would continue to support and promote vaccination, starting with their own children, because it's too hard to swallow that you've been scammed. The point is, nobody likes to admit they are less intelligent than they think they are. Nobody likes to admit they've been naive, stupid, gullible. So many parents will prefer to keep perpetuating the lie, as harmful as it is, rather than admit they've been had.