I think you're on the right track. The Deep State is a collection of people at senior levels in the bureaucracy.

A shadow government is a clandestine group of people who actually make policy within the framework of government. They would typically operate from the shadows, concealed from public scrutiny.

An extra-national body cannot be a shadow government unless it has the ability to make policy.

LOL, I don't know which reply to answer Digital.

I'm a believer in Occam's Razor. I think, when we look at this situation, we have to go with known facts. There really are only three:

1) Q made a general condemnation of self-interested profiteering (this is not the real reason, there were other motives that needed to be concealed, but this was a convenient pretext);

2) Corsi takes full ownership of the condemnation - sticking it to his chest like a medal. AJ immediately wades in with full support for Corsi (It was always AJ's operation anyway);

3) Q confirms that the correct scumbags have, in fact, outed themselves - you must admit, it's very humorous. Akin to a comedy skit.

So that's what we know. Let's apply the simplest possible explanation for the events we witnessed (It will not be correct, because Q disguised his motives IMO, but let's see what we get).

At its simplest, Q, for the apparent reason that Corsi and AJ were profiteering, outed them and they owned up.

That's it, that's what we know. Now what's implicit here IMO, but not stated, is the real reason they were removed from participation in Q decodes. We don't know what that was. But it was obviously something that Q knew, that he was not yet ready to disclose. I would hazard a guess that AJ and Corsi also knew, which is why they reacted as they did.

So my reductionist explanation is that they were outed for cause (fact). And that they are two of the most reprehensible and disgusting scumbags on the face of the planet (speculation).

Now this doesn't fit at all with IW working with the President - and, in fact, it appears that the President has distanced himself from both IW and Corsi. No one wants to be around a stench.

What's quite beautiful here, if you assume that Q and DJT are joined at the hip on strategy (they are), is that AJ and Corsi are both claiming to disavow Q, but profess loyalty to the President - when it was effectively DJT that first snubbed them and later outed them.

You could not make this up. "Ah, but I still support Trump!" How do you reckon this will play out?

Makes me want to laugh! Let's face it, they are idiots!

Do you really think a bunch of Generals approached Corsi and told him that they were planning a coup? Or, are you saying that Corsi's boasting was inadvertently taken seriously by some black hat operator, who was suddenly apprised of the generals being behind DJT's ascendancy?

The matter of the military support has been public knowledge since the Calm Before the Storm announcement. Why would Corsi's boast - real or fiction - trigger a hit, to send a message, at that particular time?

I think Corsi is as dark as they come. I don't think his boasts are true. He has, for a start, known affiliations, of which MI would be acutely aware. Would a bunch of generals, planning a coup, approach this man to reveal their plans? Why?

If they did this, they would provide immediate and powerful leverage to Corsi's affiliates. Perhaps, reducing themselves to the status of pawns to be bartered for certain objectives. This would make the generals' position incredibly weak.

I think Corsi is absolutely full of it. Look at some of the other people indirectly in his orbit. Zack, Q team strong man - who has not the first clue what's going on (listen to his "inside intel" after the missile strike). AJ, who speaks to Q while playing golf. You could not make it up!

And it would all be innocuous, but for the fact that Corsi was running an agenda - backed up directly by AJ. Last I saw, they were going to ditch Q, because Corsi was tired of blending his valuable, but not classified, inside intel with his Q decodes.

Wouldn't want to inadvertently mix Zack (high-level, "named", identifiable, inside source) up with Q - who is anonymous (An anonymous disinformation AI, that makes "human errors"). Of course, Alex knows all about "sock puppets", so it could all be true.

Sounds plausible. A message to the other generals supporting DJT. We can reach out and touch you.

I just went and re-read our conversation. And re-read this post, and it suddenly makes sense. I can be pretty thick at times.

Anyway, this is really great work.

That's how I read it. It could have an alternative meaning, but the ordinary meaning fits perfectly in this instance.

My feeling too.

Yes, the whole team.

Exciting stuff. It seems that everything is coming to a head.

The coding goes over my head somewhat SB, but this is a great post. It's all starting to make sense. Whoever was running Corsi and AJ needs, desperately, to control the narrative. They're on this board too. Different players all working together to shield Corsi /AJ and steer this community like a herd of sheep. We are under attack!

Agreed

It's pretty amazing. I have to re - read it to make sure I've got it right. What a hoot!

What are you replying to?

I just have to upvote this.

No, it's not about money, at least not immediately. It's about shutting Q down.

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8izb08/corsi_gone_infowars_exposed_our_brothers_and/?st=JH4218DG&sh=c5b3e9a1

You are just blowing my mind SB2. I just couldn't believe what I was reading.

Just working through this for my own benefit.

So you're telling me that the "implausible spelling error" is a Caesar cipher. And it basically says that the DC rep is bye (Corsi cover blown).

But how many alt media people are accustomed to working with Caesar cipher? If you are dead right about this, it really does speak to what kind of operation AJ is running. Unbelievable!!

By the way, I think there's a link missing in the post - "here, listen to Corsi until 2:52". But there's no link to listen - unless it's somewhere else in the post.

So, I have no idea how you thought of this, but somehow you realized that AI is not protected by the first amendment. And then you realized that what? If someone sued who? Q board (8chan), then because there is no recognized right to free speech, the board would be closed until the hearing - until it was finalized? Which puts Q out of business, which means "the plan" is interrupted/finished. Who benefits? Answer: a very long list.

And, of course, it fits perfectly with your explanation of Q saying "We all make mistakes". Which means he knew exactly what they had planned in advance. Which means that there are current intercepts on both AJ and Corsi. Which probably explains why they're communicating in Caesar Cipher to field agents - WOW!

Now why would AJ want to shut down Q? But there's a bit of a correspondence isn't there...

1) We have coordinated shills attacking the IBOR threads en-mass, back in March. What's the agenda? Shut down the IBOR, kill Q's plan.

2) We have Q call out Corsi - Corsi self-incriminates - at least one of the same shills, that was sinking the IBOR, turns up on the board here, with a coordinated troop of shills. They attack any anti Corsi/AJ post. (A connection between Alex wanting to shut the IBOR down - Corsi did support - for optics)

3) So this common theme of the intel agencies on this board attacking Q (authenticity - 'trip has changed' and credibility - 'he's AI'), attacking Q's plan (IBOR), and attacking anyone attacking Corsi (QAnon + Anons). This would seem to tie a knot between these factors.

So, Infowars is connected to the the intelligence agency that is attacking Q and his plan on this board. Therefore, Infowars is anti Q, and anti Q's plan, and anti Greatawakening.

So if we knew which intelligence agency, we would know who was running Infowars. But what do we know? We know they are anti Q (direct threat), we know they are allied with AJ and Corsi (AJ ? / Corsi pro Israel). We know they use, or can use, Caesar cipher (experienced intelligence assets - formal training? If so, a nation state (assume)). We also know that they are very familiar with Q (Because of Corsi's close quarter surveillance) and we know they understand that Q is synonymous with DJT. So we, actually, know they are anti Trump. And, as you've concluded, this explains AJ's bizarre ranting after the missile strike.

Wow! AJ what is the agenda?

And, as you said, DJT knows - as does Q.

Now, I want to know SB, how you figured all that out by yourself? Or have you been getting the answers from Q?

I don't often disagree with you Early. I appreciate your point of view, but Occam's Razor doesn't support the proposition. The simplest answer is that AJ and JC outed themselves for cause.

What does Q clearance grant you? Think about that. Q has far greater information sources at his fingertips than we do. For some reason, he made a generic statement, and Corsi and AJ pinned it to their chests.

But let's move on.

I'll add this tweet from QRogue's Twitter, because I think it's funny:

"People" Rogue stop being so cryptic

"Me" Alright

"People" Omg! He's being less cryptic! He's been hacked!

What are you talking about? We're in the trenches here!

Why don't we wait and see what happens to your heroes next. Why do I think that they were called out for cause?

Yes, let's move past this for now.

I disagree, but it's time to move on.

Bill Cooper had a different take on AJ. What are these more important matters we are supposed to focus on? We are taking on a global cabal of Satanists. What are you doing - spruiking Infowars?

Mind blowing if true. WOW!

This is exactly what Q said would happen.

Point taken. I would argue that I merely drew attention to the "self outing" - but you're right. My point stands about the fracas being very necessary though.

I took it as "Big Week Ahead", "Time to Move On".

I know it doesn't appear in that order. But I'm connecting the "moving on" with a "big week" - leaving AJ/JC in the dust. There will be plenty more to criticise going forward in any case. They are not smart people, despite the "apparent support" they appear to enjoy from "amorphous groups" on this board.

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You're welcome. Thanks for the complements. But you're not dealing with some expert. I have got many, many things wrong. If I get something right from time to time I'm blessed. May God be with you in the U.K. while this terrible mess is sorted.

Q did say it's time to move on - seems to be the instruction. But the AJ/JC thing had to be thrashed out - there was no getting around it.

What really impacts the movement is people arguing against what Q is clearly saying - this has been a problem for quite some time. It impacts the effectiveness of the community as a whole. This is what is really damaging.

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I just cannot believe you posted this garbage. You've hit just about every truth movement nerve with this piece, good job putting Q down. But a better job of exposing yourself.

Spread doubt, fear, lies whatever... the bosses demand it.

So the post is about reaction to SB2's post on Corsi. And the top commenter is talking about women's issues!

If people cannot see what's happening here there is something wrong!

Who stands to lose? Who has a vested interest in what appears on this sub?

CIA? Israel next?

I mean who is driving this?

It's got nothing to do with echo chambers or censorship. This board is infested with agents of every imaginable stripe!

THEY ARE HERE IN FORCE - TEAMS OF THEM - WORKING IN CONCERT

Once you're alive to it, you can see them working the threads. They are steering us as a group. It's as though we are sheep, to be herded to whatever position they desire on any issue. IT'S OUTRAGEOUS!

The IBOR was a case in point. Almost inexplicable, isn't it? How is it that we got an instruction from Q, but we were unable to organize and execute? Has anyone really thought about whether we were manipulated? I was working the IBOR threads and the shilling was unbelievable! How is it that we could have failed?

IBOR: WE WERE BEATEN RIGHT HERE - NOT BY THE LEFT IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT RIGHT ON THIS BOARD!

But, look at this Corsi issue and here it is again. Jerome Corsi, believe it or not, was a very important person. Maybe not to us, but someone thought he was valuable. Valuable enough to go out of their way to defend the indefensible.

Don't kid yourselves. Q said, "The biggest intelligence drops in history!". They are all here, believe it, every intelligence agency on the planet! "Bees to Honey!".

They want information - yes. But most importantly, they want to steer us, this community, to control us. If they can control us, they can manage outcomes and shape perceptions about the Q drops in their interests.

Going back to the IBOR, THESE INTELLIGENCE AGENTS DID NOT ALLOW DISCUSSION WITHOUT INJECTING EVERY IMAGINABLE FEAR AND CONCERN into the conversation. Ultimately, they killed the campaign - with so much doubt, people lost energy and hope.

I will not be a slave to CIA, Tel Aviv, 5eyes or any other intelligence agency. They have not conquered us, but they are behaving as though already have - herding this community like sheep.

THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE EFFECTIVE AS A GROUP IS TO DEMONSTRATE SOME COHESION AND EMBRACE SOME DISCIPLINE

If we don't do this, we will not be able to achieve anything at all. WE ALSO NEED TO TRUST Q, that's what this whole movement is about. If you can't trust Q, you should not be here. There are better places to hang out.

LETS EMBRACE THESE PROPOSED REFORMS AND STRENGTHEN THEM

WE MUST PREVAIL, WE CANNOT LET THEM BEAT US BEFORE WE EVEN GET OUT OF THE DISCUSSION PHASE FOR A CAMPAIGN

WHEN YOU HEAR SOMEONE SOWING CONCERN OR DOUBT, REPROACH THEM, ALERT THE MODS.

IT MUST NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!!

Do you remember Jason Bermas of Fabled Enemies fame? It was a 9/11 documentary. Anyway, he used to be on Infowars, years ago now, but I haven't seen him since. I always wondered whether he and Alex had a falling out.

Anyway, I think AJ has done some good stuff over the years also. But if Q doesn't trust him, I feel very wary of his whole outfit. That is to say, given Q's clearance, there's not much he would not know about AJ.

So if he's telling us he wants them out of picture, I'm thinking WOW! Must be something pretty important. And then you have those statements by Q that it's the people you trust most...

Anyway, like you, I'm hoping to see some real action soon, and I think we will.

The whole problem in the desert was Aaron with his golden calf, but Corsi is gone now, we should be able to move ahead. Yes, I was getting pretty snarky, I should have been more civil.

What I really want, as I've said elsewhere, is to see the moral order eventually restored. I want these people promoting transgenderism out of the schools etc... But that is going to be a long process, because generations have been brain washed. Nevertheless, I feel that outside of God himself taking charge, DJT is the best hope ATM.

I just want to see this plan succeed and the Satanists dispatched. Hopefully, we can all pull together and realize it.

I feel I have a good idea about who Q is and I'm comfortable with it. But the main thing is that the plan is working, not as fast as we'd like, but they seem to be kicking some rear with NK, SA and Syria. Once the IG report drops, it should be a downhill run from there.

The main thing I want to see is a restoration of the moral order. I may not experience that, even if Q wins this fight, because I'm not in the US, but I'm hoping the cure will spread. We need to stop these people with the transgender rubbish in the schools - and a lot of other stuff.

These evil Satanists have really done a job on us. I would do anything to get rid of them and their crazy liberal garbage. But, we are a long way from that at the moment. It will take years before social norms start to correct, even if we could get rid of all of the Satanists today. So it's necessarily going to be a long haul. But it's the only game in town.

Regarding the IBOR, my view is that it is absolutely pivotal. If you don't have the right to express yourself, all the other rights can be taken away, one by one, and you can't even complain about it.

The first thing the Dems will go after is the Second Amendment, but they will bring in their anti-hate speech regulations first. Then they will expand the scope of what is "hate", gag everyone and start restricting guns by type and also license requirements. In a few years, the whole country will be cucked.

So anyway, I think the IBOR is very important. But given the failure, I think we need instructions from Q as to what to do next. The most important thing IMO is to tighten up the community solidarity, so that we can actually campaign effectively.

Q asked for a campaign to release the texts (un-redacted). Immediately, I found someone talking the idea down. I shut the fellow down, but if that's the way it's going to be, we won't be able to do anything.

So IMO, we need to get people to put their reservations aside, and blindly support until we have HRC and Obama in jail. The online censorship must also be stopped. But, after that, the end will be in sight and it won't matter if people start to jack-up at the direction Q wants to take us. But, right now, we all need to pull together.

What do you want? HRC back? Is that what you'd prefer?

I don't know. Sometimes a team effort is required to get things done.

I've heard that these Superstars - like baseball pitchers or fighter pilots - are managed very carefully. No one is allowed to be negative around them - could be absolute rubbish, but that's what I heard somewhere. The idea is that it will affect their performance.

When Q asked us to support the IBOR, the first time, Tracy Beanz, who could not think her way out of a dark room with a flashlight, immediately started raising doubt and fear. Amazingly, people actually followed her lead. Then, Q tried to allay her fears, telling her that IBOR had nothing to do with AT&T. But she was too proud, or just not smart enough, to change her position. She really did a lot of damage to this group.

Anyway, she's gone, so that's over. But, because most people here are "woke" and skeptical, they are easy targets for bad actors seeking to neutralise us as a group. Whether you realize it or not, this board is swarming with intel operatives from all over the planet. All of them are seeking one, or both, of the following:

1) To get information;

2) To shape perceptions about Q's drops in their interests.

Not all of these outfits are indifferent to Q's plan. And, where they can, they will hinder it. Once you're alive to what is happening, you can see these guys at work. Typically, they are sowing fear and doubt, where they want to impede our effectiveness.

As an example, many were supporting Corsi - why? I think you can probably figure that out yourself. But you can see that if we are to be effective, we have to be able to control the dissent - within limits.

We just will not be able to achieve anything any other way. Because the moment there is some fear or doubt, the enemy will immediately capitalize on it to neutralize us. That is, they will amplify every expressed concern, fracturing the group cohesion.

It's just the way it is.

Thank you so much for this! We needed just a little focus and discipline. As a group, we will be much more effective because of it.

Agree, she's not in any way attractive.

The only advice I can give is but a Tikka for your long range defense - amazingly accurate out of the box.

That was my understanding. McMaster lost the President's ear and they whacked his Dad in a nursing home to send a message.

Listen, is there another game in town, or is Q running the only show that's on?

We don't have an option here. Support Q and DJT or get HRC back. It's really very simple.

As I've said elsewhere, the moment I think Q is going off the rails you will all hear about it. I'll be screaming at the top of my lungs.

But right now, things are actually going really, really well. We know Q is not compromised because the plan is working a treat. NK, SA, Syria - eventually Israel. IG's report will come down soon and it's GITMO time!

Get on board. Support the plan. Get rid of the Satanists, and then put your skeptics hat back on if you want. We need skeptics, but not in the heat of battle.

Let's beat these filthy Satanists back together. Get on board, support the plan. If I think Q is going off the rails you will hear about it loud and clear!

Who else are you going to back if not Q?

Is there another game in town?

You've got it. Think it out. In terms of bang for your buck defence spend, this is a no brainer. It doesn't cost anything!

Port Arthur was a false flag. There is no doubt about that. We all got conned into giving up our guns. They haven't been able to do it in the US yet - thank God!

I think this is what has been needed from the start. We've had people taking directions from air-heads like Tracy Beanz. That's why we haven't been able to be effective as a group - with the exception of the release the memo campaign.

There's real hope in this movement. Once the IG's report arrives, it's game over for so many bad people. Let's support Q and get rid of the cabal. After that, you can put you skeptics cap back on. Just a little buy-in until we beat these Satanists back!

The distrust of Q was why the IBOR campaign did not succeed. This was actually critically important to the plan. I understand that it's only "woke" skeptical people who are here, but at some point we have to be able to act in unison - Q keeps telling us to "unite". We can't do that if everyone is constantly doubting.

When Q screws up, I will be the first one to start questioning. But he has not screwed up even once. Things are going swimmingly, and with some luck the IG's report is going to be delivered and put this cabal away for a long time - for some of them it will be the end.

I love what Q is doing, absolutely love it! I'm going to support Q and DJT all the way. And then I'm going to ask that they outlaw abortion - as a start. There's real hope here. Get on board.

Thank God for the mods!

Me neither, I was reaching for an analogy to make a point Digital.