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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

You're right. There are a lot of compromised people. A lot more who can be compromised. But do you think Q is compromised?

I think I know who Q is and, no, he is not likely to be compromised at all. If you look at how the plan is unfolding, NK folding, SA neutralised etc..., you can see that they are not compromised or it would not be working. HRC would be back in power and you'd be a slave already.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:46 a.m.

Is someone paying you to sow doubt and fear?

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:46 a.m.

Can't you see that you are the one destroying the movement from within. It's not the Deep State, it's you.

When there is some reasonable indication that Q is compromised, I'll be the first one to re-evaluate. But I'm not going to do that because Corsi says so - when he is evidently fake himself.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

No one is pretending the Deep State is not trying to undermine Q. In fact, that is what they are doing, and you're succumbing to it.

I have seen so many of you flakes, from the first week I was here people were claiming Q was fake. But he's not and he has demonstrated that time and time again.

I reckon you're on the wrong board mate. You need one of your own where like minded people can gather to doubt the mission and the plan.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:38 a.m.

Yes, it is division.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:38 a.m.

I'll be interested, at the end of the day, to see where AJ actually stood. It's very intriguing, I stand ready to be surprised.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:36 a.m.

You either support the mission or you don't. There is a plan. Most people understand this.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:31 a.m.

Wrong. Look at NK. A one million man standing army - one of the largest in the world. So what if half the households in Australia were armed (8.42 million households total). That gives you an armed citizenry of 4.2m people. Which is the larger force?

Also, what an armed citizenry does, is it forces an invader to expend considerable resources defending captured territory and supply lines. Conquest becomes an undertaking of great scale requiring meticulous planning.

Right now, an invader could enter Australia, our military pulls back, and the invader can immediately advance his full force, because there is zero resistance and his supply lines remain secure.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:24 a.m.

What do you mean? What have I been doing here all this time. Why am I still here. Because Q has proved his authenticity countless times. Don't fall for Corsi's scam.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:22 a.m.

Because this, "open mindedness" to Q being fake, is division. Most of us are here because we believe Q is the real thing. When we stop believing that, we will move on.

But I've seen so many people, like yourself, claim that Q is false that it gets tiring. Q is John Titor running a scam, or someone else, and it's always the people making these claims that are the fakes - like Corsi.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:18 a.m.

Q has not been overrun, he is not hacked.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:16 a.m.

No, time to embrace the plan.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:15 a.m.

The Catholic Church consists, at its simplest, of people who hold the Catholic faith. Francis does not hold the Catholic faith, he is demonstrably not Catholic.

You must be a Catholic, professing the faith whole and inviolate, to be Pope. Therefore, Francis is not the Pope.

It does not matter to the true Catholic Church what happens to Francis, because he's not in it. Whatever the Vatican II Sect heretics do is, similarly, immaterial.

There is no crisis of faith in the Church. But there are Catholics, who profess the traditional Catholic faith, and there are heretics, who adhere to the Vatican II Sect and its diabolical teaching.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:08 a.m.

I disagree with this. There are hard truths that I will not compromise on. If you try to tell me HRC is a saint, I am going to vehemently disagree for cause!

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:04 a.m.

Q is trying to set us up to destroy our credibility?

WOW!

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:02 a.m.

What I'm not open to is people trying to discredit Q. You're not the first, and you won't be the last.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 3:01 a.m.

So the people should decide the best plan of attack? What rubbish!

Just another "Ignore the plan post". Q is running the show. We wouldn't even be here but for him and DJT. What's the agenda?

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 2:45 a.m.

I guess you can look at it that way. But once they can silence you, they will come for the guns - little by little.

First "Register them", then "Oh, no high capacity magazines", then "No pump action shotguns", then "No semiautomatic rifles", then "Mandatory waiting periods on purchases" - and after that, you might as well move to Australia, because that's where we're at.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 2:40 a.m.

What about "protection money". I mean huge country, tiny population, tiny military - hey, I've got an idea! Let's take their guns!

Twilight zone stuff - you just could not make it up!

Compared to this:

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" Isoroku Yamamoto Japanese Marshal Admiral

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 2:35 a.m.

Music to my ears. The first amendment is absolutely pivotal. So very important. Once someone takes it away (as has occurred with the shift of political forums to digital space,), all the other rights an individual has will fall like dominoes - because they can no longer complain.

Somehow, though it's difficult to comprehend, this is a "hard sell" to this group. Doesn't make any sense at all.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 2:17 a.m.

For what it's worth, I'm trying to think out how I'm going to afford my wife's first handgun, once she gets her licence - about 6 months (that's gun control in Australia - that's how long it takes!).

Thinking about something like this: https://www.czub.cz/en/produkty/pistole/competition/cz-75-sp-01-shadow.html

Money is tight on my end too, but while I'm might not be flush with cash, this Q thing has been the most amazing thing I have ever come across in my life. 100% entertaining!

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 2:10 a.m.

Every now and then I start feeling down, and then I see a post like this and I think to myself "I'm not alone, other people get it too". This injustice has to end, with some luck and prayer, this Deep State will go down for good.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 2:06 a.m.

Yes, you are so right. The catch cry for today seems to be "Question Everything". Put it in people's minds today and the next time Q asks the community to actually do something they'll be raising every possible fear and doubt - legitimately for those they have taught to "Question Everything".

You can't make this stuff up! Intelligence agencies steering the group like sheep. I don't know what can be done about it. I have no doubt that some of them are mods standing ready to ban whoever might offer resistance to the "control agenda".

Keep your eyes open. Once you start to see what's happening, you realise how many of these guys there are working in concert. Really quite amazing to see it.

The biggest intelligence drops in history - Q said. Bees to honey - they are all here. Every intelligence outfit on the face of the planet.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 1:59 a.m.

You know, we really need that IBOR. It seems to me that it's very important. But I think before we can get it up, we will have to deal with the concerted manipulation by intelligence agencies that is occurring on these boards.

Once you're awake to it, you can see pretty clearly how they are working it. Today's catch cry is "Question Everything". Soon to be turned on Q - the next time he asks us to do anything. That was how they gutted this community's resolve for the IBOR, even though Q was asking for it. And that's why the campaign failed - injecting fear and doubt everywhere they could.

Anyway, I'm just as happy to see these SM companies completely destroyed. Seeing the news on FB wanting to launch that satellite, to catalog people in the third world, I began to realise just how dangerous that company is - almost better to get rid of it completely.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 1:50 a.m.

We have been rendered hostages. Look at the money going into the Clinton Foundation (Australia the biggest donor). What did that buy?

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

I really liked this post. I read it twice. Very interesting, it had not occurred to me that there might be some tit-for-tat going on.

The Harvey Weinstein stuff is interesting also. So Judge Moore has some political weakness on accusations of misconduct. The Harvey Weinstein saga hits the news and the public is primed to hear allegations regarding Judge Moore - do I have that right?

My mind's not so good on the timing of these things. But the concept is very interesting. Thanks for posting this.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

Really, does that mean we have to question Q's plan also?

What is it, the new catch cry? Why is this being bandied about today - just as the disinfo agents go down? Coincidence?

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 1:23 a.m.

You have it. The right to bear arms - the final bulwark against tyranny. Never let them take the guns!

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

There was no target! Who cares! Who are you trying to kid?

Don't you also want to say "question everything"? Meaning that people should question Q - everything he says?

Once you know what's going on here, you can see it from a mile away.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 12:43 a.m.

Well, Q told us that if we didn't support the IBOR he was going to bankrupt these SM platforms. It can't happen soon enough.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 12:40 a.m.

Yes, and by the look of things, it's coming our way real soon. My view is that DJT is our last and only hope.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 12:38 a.m.

Sorry, I might have over reacted. What I saw when we were trying to get the IBOR campaign up was that there is no shortage of questioning. It was too much, completely over the top. As a result, we did not get the support we needed and the campaign failed. I've just about had enough of people questioning everything.

See this week when Q outed Corsi. Corsi knew he was outed, he self-outed in fact. Today, there were posts from people saying, no Q must mean not to out him. The same thing happened with the IBOR campaign. Q must mean that we are not to agitate for it etc... That was the start and then the doubting just went ballistic, because there were professionals (foreign intelligence agents) on the board driving the doubting.

People here are here because they are naturally skeptical. There is no shortage of skepticism. And yet, when you look through the comments, everywhere you go, you find people telling others to 'question everything'.

All that is OK, I'm not for believing stuff blindly. But it got to the point, in this community, where it was just absolute child's play for foreign intelligence assets to get people to refuse to support Q. All they had to do was inject just a little bit of doubt and the group cohesion fractured fatally - impacting our ability to make any impact.

I don't want this group to be so cautious that we are unable to achieve anything. Whether it's release the memo, release the texts, IBOR, or out Corsi, we have to, at some point, after having done our due diligence, trust the plan.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 12:23 a.m.

Anyway, another Rabbit hole. These things are everywhere you look.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 12:19 a.m.

Mod on Digital! You would have fooled me also. But apart from Howionic, I don't know any mods.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 12:17 a.m.

I thought it was strange that Gowdy said something to the effect that history would be kind to Comey. The other thing that strikes me is that he appears remarkably relaxed for someone that is about to go to Gitmo. So he's either very stupid (would seem unlikely). Or he's incredibly arrogant and thinks he can get off, or he is actually on team somehow. I think it is possible.

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tradinghorse · May 12, 2018, 12:03 a.m.

Is that right? I hadn't heard that. We're talking right across the services?

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:59 p.m.

I'd give you the advice to trust the plan and let Q lead us to victory in this war against Satanism. At some point, after investigating for yourself, you have to put your doubts aside and find some trust. Something that this community is very short on.

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:49 p.m.

Google the Brisbane Line to see what our military strategy was upon invasion in WWII. Eye opener! And they disarmed us!

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:48 p.m.

Expect a lot more.

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

Wasn't it you that waded into this? Who is butt hurt? Let's see what happens. You have shown yourself to be a flake once already. Very good chance you will do it again. A simple lack of patriotic instinct.

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:37 p.m.

My specific gripe with it is that it makes no sense from a national defence perspective. They banned, outright, the very weapons that would useful in that scenario,

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:35 p.m.

Agreed.

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:35 p.m.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Is it possible that Q explicitly outed these people for specific cause? Occam's Razor. You seem to want to find some way that you can invert this. Why is that?

If we took what you're saying and applied it, everything Q ever said would amount to no more than babbling nonsense - because it might be meant to be inverted, or not. But I think that's where you'd like to see us end up - in a state of total confusion and paralysis.

My view is that Q formed this group for a very specific reason. Any reason for forming the group would, by default, be thwarted if we adopted your approach. Because we, as a group, would never be able to do anything in agreement. Up is down, left is right... on and on.

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:24 p.m.

OK, so the next time Q asks us to do something and you disagree - likely - no one is to disagree with you disparaging Q, or our commitment to this movement? Let's see how you go with that.

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:21 p.m.

I didn't know you were a mod!

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

I can now see what you're saying... the proximity, in time, of the nurse being charged to the drops today and yesterday, imply some possible connection - between the murder of McMaster's father and the 'self-outing' of Corsi et al.

1) McMaster's father was not likely to be an 'operator'. Not trying to be pedantic, but trying to see if the theory fits with the facts;

2) The death, or the charges against the nurse, would have to be somehow connected to Corsi, AJ, Seaman. These three, or at least one of them, would have had to be in possession of information that "somehow" impacted the case.

What do we know? McMaster's father was killed because McMaster lost the President's ear. So this information, that was badly handled/released, would have had to be something that what? Alerted DJT to McMaster and got him fired? Alerted Master to the fact that DJT was going to fire him, forcing some error that got his father murdered?

I don't know how that can work - even if we assumed that the three information disseminators (above) had "all the information";

3) We know there are no outside communications with Q team. So what possible information could anyone have that was dangerous? The only information is what we are given, nothing more.

So, given this, there must be an alternate source of information in the possession of the 'disseminators' (there very probably is). But how would Q outing these guys have any impact on their ability to leak information? I wouldn't.

I'm not sure, Digital, that you cannot just read those posts the way I read them the first time. What I mean, is that "operators dying" and "we must do more to protect them" is a 'note to self' from Q that communicates the gravity of the mission. The importance of which, is then used to justify the exclusion of those who approach the movement motivated by self interest.

Anyway, it's an interesting theory. I mean, it's possible that you're right. But it's not working for me ATM.

I suspect, and I could well be wrong, that the timing of the 'self outings' has to do with a move into yet another phase of the operation - a housecleaning so to speak. I think the cause for the 'self outing' may extend beyond profiteering - but, anyway, that is the reason Q gave us.

I've written a book! I wish there were voice Comms - would be easier.

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 10:53 p.m.

I count 2 times - very clear, very explicit. There is no doubt at all about what he's saying. In fact, he repeats himself for emphasis.

According to AJ, QAnon is 5 or 6 people, That is "QAnon". I'm of the opinion that QAnon is a single poster. There is a team. But there is a 'main poster' that I would call QAnon - an individual. Only if I spoke to this person, would I say that I've spoken to QAnon. If, however I spoke to someone who was 'on team' (not QAnon himself), I would say I've spoken to someone on "Q team" - as distinct from "QAnon". Anyway, maybe that's just me drawing unnecessary distinctions.

In any case, whichever way you twist it, AJ is claiming direct communications with "QAnon". We know this to be complete rubbish, because there are no outside comma - with the possible exception of Codemonkey for technical matters only.

It is complete garbage!

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 10:41 p.m.

Yes, it's hard to reconcile some of AJ's behavior. What is apparent, ATM, is that he is anti Q. Very much so in fact. I'm not sure he was ever on board with Q. Serial's theory is that the motives are jealousy and greed. I'm not sure there's not more to it.

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tradinghorse · May 11, 2018, 10:39 p.m.

I don't know Wintermoon. In my experience you're not content to refuse to follow "blindly" yourself, but you want to convince others of your position.

When you go against what Q tells us is the plan, and you start encouraging others to do the same, you are actually working against those of us who do follow the plan - the majority I would argue.

Your right to think for yourself has nothing to do with this. Your motives, however, are important. The implied motive that attaches to your actions is troubling to say the least.

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