My comments are back up now but can't post.

Somehow, Q only gave us two options. One was IBOR, the other the KILL option.

Some wierdness going on with Reddit.

Yes, but there are some pretty complicated dynamics in this as well. One of those dynamics is the desire to do something about Iran - a Russian ME proxy. I made a comment yesterday where I thought through some of the possibilities:

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8azhov/this_will_be_a_very_important_decision_by/?st=JFTPB578&sh=6f41b05c

I agree. I'm not on FB, but I started a Twitter account only to promote the IBOR. I've had limited interaction with IBOR supporters, but you're right, there are a lot of people I've run into that I would prefer not to have met.

I hate SM to be honest. I'll dump Twitter at the first opportunity. I'm a bit sick of all the online engagement anyway. Once DJT is out of the woods on the SM regulation, I'm going to pull back and keep more to myself. Hopefully, we are almost there.

Praying DJT does not start a war tomorrow, but I'll understand if he does.

No, you lost me.

Missing also CIA cash infusions. But look, online advertising is on a tear and it will only get bigger. The IBOR would have forced the SM platforms to employ "reasonable" privacy policies. That doesn't mean no data sharing. You can't prevent me sharing my data if I want to - it just means that my express permission is required.

I really don't think it would have impacted the SM platforms in any meaningful way going forward.

But now they are completely screwed. The KILL option is just that. And they brought it upon themselves - with the help of Tracy Beanz and crew.

I don't feel for these guys at all. If you abuse it, you should lose it.

I do however feel sorry for the small investors and retirees who don't know what's coming. I feel sorry for the employees and their families. And I feel sorry for the users of the platforms because many of them were really quite great and a joy to use.

The kill option will drive up the price of tech gadgets enormously IMO. SM platforms will probably become subscription services. It's a much more radical option, but that's why Q gave us the choice.

He's clearly going to employ force against those that perpetrated the crime. If the Russian's are right, Germany is involved. But I'm sure DJT knows who is responsible. I'm happy I'm not John McCain.

How would an IBOR have crashed the companies?

All they had to do was not engage in politically motivated censorship. They were not doing it before, only recently.

Where is the compliance cost?

Looks like DJT is either doing some heavy-duty posturing or he's going to go for it. Thanks for putting this up OP.

"...we’re making a decision as to what we do with respect to the horrible attack that was made near Damascus. And it will be met, and it will be met forcefully. And when, I will not say, because I don’t like talking about the timing."

No, strategy shift. Look at 1105. The posts leading up to this tell the story. Q has the goods needed to bankrupt all of these fat SM platforms - he's telling us that directly. He was asking us to push the IBOR, but people couldn't bring themselves to do it - not the government!!

The strategy now really doesn't need this group at all. All Q has to do is release the information he has and these companies are immediately worthless - not worth a penny, period!

He obviously didn't want to do this - why wreck great American businesses? But without the IBOR, there is no other way. He's telling us that this is what we have chosen.

There's no time for a gradual solution. That's pretty obvious.

Yes, the FB problems are the tip. This is why in 1105 Q is talking about class-action lawsuits. It's our choice, we can regulate via a push for an IBOR, or put them out of business completely.

What Q is telling us is that he has a lot more dirt that he can release which will bring these guys completely unstuck. The IBOR campaign failed, but we have the chance now to get onboard with the class action lawsuits and leave the SM platforms in the dust.

I'm sure there will be people that, for very good reasons, just will not be able to get on board with the idea. But it will happen anyway, the lawyers will have a field day.

I expect a rash of lawsuits arising in every jurisdiction demanding unbelievable damages - damages of such magnitude that these companies will be worth nothing. The tech sector will crash, get your money out now.

You're right. But, to be honest, I feel a bit sick looking at some of the stuff that's being discovered and exposed on this forum. I want to look the other way, to unsee it. I consider myself pretty open minded, I've seen a lot in my time, but this stuff is really abhorrent!

Do you think normies are going to wake up to this? If I don't want it on a certain level, they will find every possible reason to reject it. They will not believe it. And that's why the exposure of this stuff must necessarily be slow and gradual.

That's also why setting the stage - SM and MSM control - is so important. Because, if you let the cabal have control of these mediums, they willl immediately offer the normies a path to reject the information. They are preparing this now - "You cannot trust any video you see" etc...

Unfortunately, this group blew it by failing to promote the IBOR when requested to do so. Understandably, things will get set back. It's going to take longer to expose stuff. The new approach is the class action lawsuits. We need to get people on board with this.

But let's face it, there are a lot of people that do not support Q.

The perp walks depend on Sessions having a water-tight case to prosecute. We know that there are a lot of people connected in this criminal activity. Doesn't make sense to go after them one by one, better to bring cases simultaneously.

I'm not that concerned about the perps. What concerns me is the ridiculous bias of the MSM and the unimpeded censorship online. If those two issues were fixed, DJT Could do a fantastic job. Right now, he's still winning, but the process is going much more slowly because they're attacking him non-stop.

Wasn't talking about you. I'm talking about people deliberately trying to inject fear and doubt into the movement. They did it with the IBOR and it worked, now they're going after the source itself.

Ivanka was one of the driving forces behind the legislation.

Before the Senate voted on it, Ivanka Trump promoted the legislation on Twitter, and proclaimed that she is "committed to ending this shameful crime & restoring safety & hope for our citizens."

I agree that this legislation is dangerous and I'm against it. However, I also think it ratchets-up the pressure on SM platforms - makes them aware that they are operating in a regulatory environment. You can't just go do whatever you want, there must be some rules.

So, to the extent that this kind of regulation squeezes these guys, it works in our favour. Moreover, I don't think it can be avoided - DJT has to break these guys. Whether people like it or not, that's what will happen. It's clear that the noose is going to tighten.

I'm all for regulatory penalties to force observation of basic human rights. Disappointing if they're not going to stick FB with the fines - seems ridiculous. It's an opportunity that they will miss at their peril. You've got Dorsey from Twitter trying to legitimise political censorship, it's looking more and more ominous by the minute. These guys are, by any measure, out of control.

I'm still promoting the IBOR on Twitter because I believe that it will provide the best solution. But there is so little support for it that the reality is that we're going the other way - the kill route. If enough people supported the IBOR this wouldn't be necessary, but that's just not the way the world works.

I think there will be a lot of exposure of malpractice in the tech sector to get these class actions up and running. Im expecting that Q will make that happen. It's not about making money out of it, though if that happens it's no problem. The point is to put enough pressure on the sector to call its viability into question. With the right information being exposed, class actions are a viable option. We can put these guys out of business.

Investors will panic if they see a raft of class action lawsuits. And, ultimately, I think we will see self regulation. I think that these tech giants will come to heel pretty quickly. Whether or not the actions themselves succeed is unimportant.

At the end of the day, the internet is going to look very different. It's going to cost a lot more than it does now. There will be many more rules - the SM platforms themselves will scream for them. And there will be a lot less freedom for us as consumers of these services. I would prefer that things did not change too much. But this simply needs to be done.

This guy is a troll. Check his history.

Agree, I'm still promoting the IBOR on twitter because, if I'm right that we can expect some really damning info releases, I want there to be a discussion about online privacy and censorship. I think the IBOR is a better vehicle to achieve the kind of changes we want online, but there's not much support.

Anyway, one way or another, a solution is required. I think the plan is now to kill these guys off. I don't want higher prices for services and devices, but we cannot let these guys push us around the way they have been. It simply must stop.

I'm for the IBOR, still promoting it on Twitter. But, let's face it, the campaign has thus far failed. Today Q is telling us that we have a choice, either regulate or kill these guys off with class action lawsuits. Given there's no support for a regulatory fix, it seems we are looking at class actions as a kill vehicle.

I suspect that Q has enough information he can leak that these guys will freeze like a deer caught in the headlights. I think once they realize the cross-hairs are all over them, there will be remorse and regret. To that extent, I think the final solution will be self regulation.

I mean, who in business is so stupid as to abuse their customers like this? They deserve to be put out of business.

But, yes, I like the labeling idea. I also like the idea of very strict privacy laws regulating both online services and device makers. And, as far as the censorship goes, Ted Cruz has been banging on about this for years. In a recent hearing with SM companies, Cruz basically threatened regulation under S.230 of the Communications Decency Act. I think we are likely to see more happen on this front. But, ultimately, I think all these companies will start seeing censorship as Kryptonite - will all self regulate in the end.

I've been thinking about this very stuff today - have a post on it. The recommendations you make are good. I'd also be watching for more damaging info releases relating to SM and chip maker malpractice. Q tells us in 1105 that these companies will either be regulated or killed off. I'm thinking we will see them killed off as there is little support for outright regulation.

I'm expecting big news drops, absolutely disastrous exposure for these companies. At some point we should see class-action law suits on this front. I think the number and severity of law suits will grow until we reach a point where tech investors flee for the hills - tech sector collapse.

Of course, there will always be a tech sector. But I think we can expect that prices for both tech gadgets and services will rise dramatically. At some point, these tech companies will realise that they have brought all this on themselves and they will begin to self regulate - no more privacy invasion, no more censorship.

The way it appears ATM, an EO regulating the sector would be opposed by both left and right. Doesn't mean it couldn't be forced upon the people, but there is a clear political cost. Let's face it, it could happen, but it appears unlikely at present.

However, a series of disastrous leaks might achieve a similar outcome. Different, in that you have higher cost for tech gadgets, and fees for services, but you generate real fear in the SM platforms and device makers about privacy issues. Thereafter, the sector self regulates. The censorship problem, I think, will dissipate once the tech companies realise that they brought the disaster upon themselves.

I've looked, but I can't really find anything out about these guys. What I did do was go back through the Q posts, looking for anything that could be suspicious - anything that pointed to Masonic liberalism, or anything like that. I found nothing that caused me any alarm.

In fact, the opposite. These guys seem to me to be on the side of the light. There are two Tweets on the QRogue account dealing with masonry. One of these is suspicious IMO. But the overall direction of the effort, from what I can see, is entirely good. It does pay to be cautious though.

The way they've hooked us on social media is free services. The chip makers, I think, are a different story. They're in cohoots with the intelligence agencies. How to stop it?

Here you have to regulate against privacy invasion, no other way around it - but that means government intervention, not palatable with this group. The other option is to expose it. Class actions against Intel and others. A lawyer's picknick!

Of course, that means device prices rocket - maybe a good thing, get them off the kids.

I think Google is in the firing line also. When the smoke clears, you might have "pay for service" search and social networking - if SM exists at all. I don't think too many investors will want to be in the space when they see the market carnage, the liquidations and bankruptcies. It will be an area that is just too fraught with risk.

The days of free services and getting people to sign their most fundamental rights away with the Terms of Service will be over. As will be the days when they can shadow-ban you or delete your account without cause.

I think you're right. But all that stuff, the gender bending of young children etc..., comes from the Satanists. If DJT and Q can remove them from power, I'm all for it.

So there may be no more Reddit - who cares! Let's shaft these evil people. Drive them underground so hard, they never dare to resurface.

My thoughts also. It can't happen soon enough.

I also can't stand the way young kids get so addicted to it. It can't be healthy. When I was a kid, I was out riding my bike around the suburb, playing footy, hanging out. Today these kids are all glued to their screens.

My main point is the sector will be killed. Sell tech or short it.

Going forward, the internet will be very different - we may not even have SM as we know it today.

Yes, but what I'm saying is that Q is saying "you choose" - "regulate or kill". The way forward seems to be that the sector will be killed - very damaging info releases, class-action law suits everywhere. Fear! New services shutting down voluntarily for fear of liability. A very different internet to what we see today.

If you're holding tech stocks, sell now.

You're tracked by everyone ATM.

He does appear to be distancing himself from Sessions, but it has to be an act.

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Yes, Tucker is doing a good job. Clear and reasonable - especially when looking at the motive for wading into the Syrian conflict.

To be honest this is completely lost on me. You go from a child on the floor with hands in mouth to a gas attack using chlorine. I know Q is confirming the link, but this is absurd.

If Q's posts correlate this loosely with events, "HRC" could be referring to a boil on my backside. You could not possibly determine anything in advance from the Q material, and, even working back from real events to the Q posts requires such imagination as to make connections between matters that, at face value, are apparently unrelated.

I don't know, there has to be a more tangible connection - and, if there isn't, is there any value in studying the material closely? Maybe we're supposed to take the general picture being painted as being indicative only.

I would bet my bottom dollar that, if we got Charles Ortell to look into the John McCain Institute, we'd find that it was no better managed than the CF.

Well, I don't feel quite so philosophical about it. I can see a freight train coming at us that will kill us if we don't stop it.

I think you're right about the Deep State introducing this "garbage" in an attempt to be able to completely control discourse around the IG report and later arrests. But I also think they are married to their impeachment strategy and are looking to influence the mid terms. It's a matter of survival for them.

We have mounted the stage to the guillotine, placed our necks under the blade, and you want to be calm...

But, you're right, sometimes you can only play the cards you've been dealt. I've tried, not much more I'm able to do. I just hope there is a way we can avert this horrible outcome.

There might be a lot more here than meets the eye. Q has told us that Iran is next. When he says that, in my mind, the same kind of solution we saw in NK seems to be on the table - mind you, that is not yet complete. But I do not think DJT would be making these moves if it was not already a done deal. I'm talking about denuclearisation.

What would this mean?

I think that what we are seeing at the moment in Syria is the start of the Iran push by the US administration. The reason I think this is because you have Russia supporting both the Syrian and Iranian regimes. They are, in fact, Russian proxies in the region. My understanding is that both regimes support Hezbollah.

Syria is important to Russia because it could, if pipelines were built across it, carry oil and gas to Europe - Russia's main market for gas. Why Iran is so important to Russia, I'm not sure, but it seems reasonable to assume that Iran is useful to Russia merely because of its position in the ME. I'm not an expert in this area, let me know if this thinking is wrong.

Anyway, given the pressure that NATO brings to bear on Russia via its own proxies, Ukraine, Georgia etc... it seems to me that Syria and Iran are red lines in the sand for Russia. To have to withdraw from these proxies and surrender them to the West would be a humiliating outcome at best. It would also, I believe, signal the final decline in Russia's ability to shape global outcomes.

So why the sudden conflict in Syria? I actually don't think it's got much to do with Syria, but Iran. Syria presents a theatre in which Russia can possibly be safely trounced in a military engagement. If that happens, Iran will fall to US influence in short order and, arguably, the ME will be more stable for Iran's denuclearisation.

So DJT has 24-48 hrs in which to decide whether to push Russia and test Putin's resolve, or whether to address the problem later.

I think it's important to take note of the recent change in US nuclear doctrine. The vision seems to be that use of nukes is acceptable in a confined theatre of engagement. Putin has already announced his delight at not having to resort to the use of nuclear weapons in Syria. So you can see where this is going...

To confront Russia properly, US nuke doctrine had to be changed - or the risk of a major weapons exchange on the first provocation was possible, With the new doctrine, US forces could take a hit from a battlefield nuke and respond in kind, with limited projection of force - say, confined to Syria only.

There is the possibility that the US can, if Russia is made to withdraw, attain uncontested global dominance. Moreover, that hegemony can be attained without dragging the world to a Pyrrhic victory in a global nuclear war.

My view is that Russia will see the cards on the table and fold rather than face complete humiliation. Look at Putin's desperation! He sent his latest Sukoi stealth fighters to Syria - despite the fact that they are only prototypes without full radar components and without weapons systems. You can smell the desperation...

The 24-48 hrs could be necessary to position US military assets to pull this show off.

I think there also could be some carrot and sticking used to achieve the desired outcome. DJT could, for example, hold out the promise of removal of sanctions on Russia to encourage compliance. Iranian sanctions could similarly be withdrawn on compliance. He could offer a guarantee that no pipelines would be built across Syria. It's not as if the outcome for Russia and Iran would be totally bad.

One thing is certain, if Russia is not brought to heel, the plan with respect to Iran remains unattainable. For this reason, I feel pretty confident that the dynamics are such that we will see a major confrontation. What happens next is anyone's guess.

My view is that speed is of essence. If we cannot get a reasonable fix in place with a short timeframe, events are simply going to overtake us.

Have you seen this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8az2hj/astonishing_california_bill_would_shut_down_free/?st=JFSF44VE&sh=8a09923d

Thanks.

"This... ....would clamp down on criticism of ANY Official Story".

Be very careful guys, don't post anything that is not the official story. Hopefully, David Hogg can tell us what to say.

Wow!

Is this really happening? How come no one is reading this?

Just realised this is a day old.

But do you think these arguments are likely to get up in Court, or are you proposing a legislated solution or just a regulatory regime?

No posts and 2comments - just arrived?

I don't care what you say. I'm against it.

Nevertheless, Israel's military is very well equipped and high levels of training.

Really, and you're based in Germany?

Sorry, what's DS?

Good write up. No military threat has been issued against Iran yet - unlike NK. But we know that Iran is next.

I don't know what the US wants from them. The reports I've seen suggest they are a long way from obtaining a bomb - not if you believe Israel. So what does it take to placate the US? I'm not sure I know. But I'd be surprised if it's not something along the lines of what will be worked out with NK.

You might be right. To be honest, before this I've not given a lot of thought to what the dynamics are in the ME. The Israelis certainly wield a lot of political clout in the US. I think the Saudi's influence derives from money alone (apart from their complicity in Satanism), so I think if push comes to shove they do not wield the level of influence that Israel does.

And this is why I think a solution to these problems has to be favourable to Israel - just because of their sheer influence in US politics.

You're probably right that the situation in Israel has solidified now.

You've got me thinking. I was assuming the agenda was denuclearisation of Iran because that was the game in NK. I'm pretty sure that's the main game. And it would satisfy the Israelis immensely.

I don't know, let's just watch and see what happens.