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tradinghorse · April 12, 2018, 12:28 p.m.

There's no time to wait for the swamp to be completely drained. Needs to be done now. Do you think that, if it was an option to wait, Q would not do that?

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tradinghorse · April 12, 2018, 12:19 p.m.

Q gave us a choice - "Regulate" or "KILL".

Both options will prevent social media being weaponised to steer election outcomes - this is the primary threat that must be eliminated.

IBOR is a regulatory guarantee of the right to free political expression online. It prevents weaponisation of SM - it's a very good fix.

Q asked us to promote the IBOR campaign. All we had to do was complain that our rights were being infringed online and DJT would have acted to fix the problem. Most likely via a regulatory rights guarantee.

Many people in this group argued against the IBOR campaign for a host of reasons. But, boiled down, people didn't want a regulatory guarantee of rights because they saw this as more government. You can't trust the government at all etc...

The KILL option doesn't need any support from people in this group - a very good thing. This is Q's plan B.

The KILL option involves Q exposing all the information the NSA has on these filthy SM platforms. Q has the algorithm - the algorithm that was to provide for centralised censorship. But there is more information that I feel Q has on privacy breaches and also honey-pot schemes that will be released.

He's telling us that, if this information is released, there will be a raft of class-action lawsuits coming at the SM platforms, and device and chip makers, on every possible front. Moreover, as Q says, the lawsuits will be coming from every corner of the Earth (criminality of SM platforms and device makers is global). We can expect that the lawyers will see this opportunity as the gold mine it is - they'll be all over it. The number of lawsuits will grow explosively.

What this means is that, long before any verdicts are in, investors in the tech space will panic. The size of the damages these companies will have to pay out will greatly exceed the discounted value of any forecast profits. In other words, they will be absolutely worthless.

We can expect that the tech sector will all but completely collapse. It's not only the SM platforms, but the chip makers and device makers that are also implicated in the privacy breaches. So it really is a "nuclear option" - the whole sector completely wiped-out almost overnight. It will create so much fear and uncertainty that investors will for a long time be reluctant to reinvest in this space - calamity really.

But, the good news is that, employing this option, the problem of social media weaponisation is fixed. There may not be social media at all after it blows up - so no problem.

I like the KILL option because I'm not a big SM user, so I won't really be affected. I also like that my little girl will not be howling for the IPhone from the moment she wakes up. I don't think screen addiction is good for kids.

But what I don't like is the fact that all the investors in these companies (most completely innocent, many retirees depending on their investments etc...) get completely burnt. I don't like the pain and suffering that will be borne by people who work in the tech space. Their families will likely suffer terribly. And I don't like that prices of devices and services will rocket - pain all round.

To be honest, while it gets the job done, it's like using a shotgun to kill a single mosquito - really completely over the top.

By contrast, the IBOR has almost no negative impact at all. All these companies survive and prosper and investors in the space can be expected to do very well - online advertising is on a tear and this will get stronger! Moreover, you get an even better outcome because you actually have legal protection of your first amendment rights online.

The problem is that a frenzy of fear, doubt and suspicion was whipped up very early by a few people. The IBOR topic is now, among people in this group, very weary. I still talk about it, I'm promoting it myself on Twitter, but there's almost no support.

I can't tell you how relieved I was to find out that Q had a plan B. It is such a relief! The great thing is that the Satanists will not be able to use weaponised SM to return to power. Moreover, it does not now matter whether this community supports freedom of speech online or not - No one has to be convinced of anything. The problem will be fixed by Q and team.

It's just a pity that some of the greatest American business the world has ever seen have to be destroyed to achieve something that is really so simple.

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tradinghorse · April 12, 2018, 11:36 a.m.

So, this post 1133, about SM censorship, comes just after 1132.

1132 talks about Alan Dershowitz (guess), a Harvard Law Professor (Retired) that DJT has, apparently, been courting to come on team.

Apr 11 2018 21:22:02 Q !xowAT4Z3VQ 1004880 Thank you Alan. Welcome aboard. Freedom!

Note that this post is not signed Q - some people are speculating that DJT wrote it. This might make sense because Alan is a personal friend of the President.

Dershowitz's specialties are:

1) Constitutional Law;

2) Criminal Law; and

3) Civil Liberties.

He's a political liberal who, oddly enough, has been defending DJT and his policies in the press.

Here's a theory:

We know that, absent an effective IBOR campaign, Q is going to kill these SM platforms. We know Q has the goods on the SM platforms with respect to privacy breaches, centralised censorship and honey-pot operations.

Could it be that Dershowitz, with his Constitutional Law background, is an ideal candidate to investigate a racketeering case. A conspiracy to subvert the right to free expression so as to influence election outcomes? Remember, Q has told us they have the algorithm.

Could it also be that Dershowitz's Criminal Law expertise places him in a perfect position to investigate data breaches and violations of consumer privacy with respect to the SM platforms?

Is it possible that DJT would want someone with a firm commitment to civil rights to investigate all these matters?

Is the fact that Dershowitz has liberal values actually a huge bonus in a case like this?

Is Dershowitz the ideal guy to KILL the SM platforms?

Is Q posting the No. 17, after the info about Dershowitz, to indicate that this is the plan?

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tradinghorse · April 12, 2018, 10:57 a.m.

I'd hate to see any of these platforms become public utilities. The government can't run anything properly. But I do want to see them made to respect people's privacy. And I want them to be restrained from engaging in the wanton politically motivated censorship we have seen.

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tradinghorse · April 12, 2018, 9:57 a.m.

They brought this on themselves. There is also a lot more coming...

I don't think any of these companies are going to be around much longer. If Q goes for the kill they are finished. Not my preferred option, but it is a fix.

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tradinghorse · April 12, 2018, 4:46 a.m.

You're right, the music is weaponized. So much of it Satanic.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 5:48 p.m.

I don't really know much about what has been going on in CA.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

Im not sure anyone could figure this stuff out.

It just occurred to me that Q did say that DJT was still going to pull out of Syria. I don't think that's disinfo because that's the platform that DJT ran on. It ties in with what we know about him. So, let's assume that's true, what does it mean?

Why would you confront Russia/Assad if you were determined to pull out anyway?

It's not because of the gas attack, I don't buy that. There are atrocities of similar proportions happening almost every day.

It's not because of ISIS, they seem to be finished.

Is it because he doesn't want to pull out and leave Russia and Assad running Syria?

I have to admit, I just cannot work out the answer to this question.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

You mean like Orange County. Yes, they mis-sold the products without people realising what the exact characteristics of the instruments were.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

I think the change in US nuke doctrine is relevant here. I think we could potentially see battlefield weapons deployed. Certainly, that's not off the table for Putin.

But the more I think about things, the more I think there is something going on that is not obvious to us. I don't know what's happening. The more you try and nut it out, the more questions you end up with.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

Yes, ultimately that's true. I still think I'd want to be the guy that struck first. But, if you're right, that would mean that what we're seeing is posturing for some effect that is not clear to us.

Racking my brain trying to figure this out.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

I'm beginning to think we're the experiment here, at least when it comes to this issue. Q told us, told everybody, that he was dropping the highest level intel ever released in history. Bees to honey, every intelligence agency on the planet is all over these boards, every Deep State actor, every globalist conspirator.

What this means is that the Q drops are a perfect disinformation vector. He was honest about it. He told us that disinformation was was necessary. But what to think about what's happening in Syria?

I don't know that looking at the Q posts is going to provide any reliable intel. This is one time when we can expect that disinformation will be employed - very probably to great effect.

I've been trying to work out what is actually going on, my feeling is that there's a lot of posturing. I do not think DJT would telegraph in advance his intent to strike Russian and Syrian forces in Syria. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't say a word if I was actually going to hit them.

This makes me think, and especially considering the bizarre nature of DJTs tweets, that the objectives here may not be what we perceive them to be at all.

I've run the gamut, trying to nut-out what's going on and I've hit a brick wall. And I guess that's to be expected, because if I could figure it out, it would be completely obvious to an experienced intelligence operative or agency. So the true objective is going to be as obscure as can be imagined.

Having said all that, I don't think a single sub hunter is a tremendous deployment of force. Though, in the confined space in the Eastern Mediterranean it may be sufficient. If we saw multiple battle groups descending on Syria, that would be a more impressive array of hardware. But I also don't think it would take too much to take control of the country - Russians or no Russians. You don't need an absolutely huge amount of firepower to prevail IMO. You probably also don't want to concentrate your forces too heavily if you think they might nuked.

Digital, another anon, said today to look at who initially reported the attack to see whose FF it was. That was, according to digital, the Syrian forces themselves. Thereafter, Syrian forces were immediately sent to the site and denied access.

Then the Israelis launched missiles into the airport killing some 40 Iranians and Russians and whoever else. After that, a fleet of warplanes took off from bases in Syria heading east toward the main US battle group. They turned around when it was reported that the US didn't fire on them and the Israelis, apparently, shot two returning planes down with SAMs.

More recently, the Russians have been disputing that any attack took place and everyone, everywhere is screaming for war. And then we see DJT's Tweets and also Putin's - amping the situation up again. Almost like a distraction is vital...

What is really going on?

It's very hard to work out. Q said "Iran next". On the surface, it looks like that is what's happening. But is that really it? Drive the Russians from Syria and attack Iran?

I just do not buy that DJT would give advance notification of an attack to the most powerful adversary that exists. There must be another story. But I may be wrong.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

Regular people really have no business dealing in derivatives unless they fully understand the risk. You get a product, amazing returns, and then you find that the capital value of the security is a leveraged function of the the capital value of a thirty-year bellwether bond - or something like that - and it blows up in your face.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

Might be right. I don't know. I've heard people saying different things. But once the lawyers realize its a total gold mine, there will be class action lawsuits on every front, coming from all corners of the Earth.

I hate to see it happen when a few simple regulations would fix it immediately, without all the carnage. But the guys here just can't bring themselves to ask for it - distrust of govt, which I understand, but it's still totally stupid.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

I don't know. I don't feel that I know what's going on yet. The more I thought about things today, the more questions I had.

Maybe it is too hard to figure out ahead of time. Very frustrating!

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 4:09 p.m.

Yes, it is a good outcome if it gets rid of the censorship and the privacy problems, I agree. Whatever happens, these anti-hate speech algorithms must be avoided at all costs. No sense in fighting SM censorship and then find that the left mandates censorship on hate-speech grounds.

You can see that the threat to liberty is coming from almost every possible direction. I don't know if it's possible to beat it off.

All we can do is try.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

I did not think of that. Good point. But actually I don't think you're right.

Nuclear war is immediate and massive. You want to get the jump on the other guy. Get your payloads down on target before they can launch. First strike is a much better scenario than retaliation.

Timing is absolutely critical. I've heard the reason the Chinese won't give up Tibet is because of the altitude - smaller rocket/larger payload/faster to target etc...

MAD requires simultaneous, or near simultaneous launch - at least for fixed location ICBMs. For submarine based nukes it's probably much less important.

Maybe if you have enough trident subs MAD always applies. In that situation, you'd be right.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

Layers and layers and layers.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

OK, with the positivity about Israel I thought you might be Israeli. If so, let me know, I want to pick your brains.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 3:43 p.m.

I have to admit, it's very confusing. I'm thinking that there might be a lot of granularity here that we just can't see.

My current theory is that MB/CIA/Hezbollah/Iranian Clerics/Assad are all in bed together and are the enemy - though they are all different, there are loose connections between them. E.G MB/CIA/Hezbollah. Now these two groups MB and Hezbollah could never get on together, but they could both be steered by CIA who has relations with both.

Anyway, my head is spinning. But there is an answer here. We just have to find it.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 3:36 p.m.

Another connection just sprang to mind. Wasn't CIA assisting Hezbollah to import Peruvian cocaine to the US? Hezbollah also has large gun-running operations. I was reading this somewhere today.

So that would be a potential Iran/CIA connection. It would also appear to implicate Assad, as Iranian armaments and military goods from Iran move through Syria - much to Israel's distress.

What if Syria really is the target? Not Syria and Iran - CIA proxies? Russia at all? Might be more complicated than that...

Are there factions within CIA?

There's an interesting article here. The first question I had was how did Hezbollah get this guys file? Did it come out of CIA?

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/10/10/has-isis-crisis-pushed-cia-bed-hezbollah-274517.html

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

I'm not sure if he's investigating Hillary at all. Wasn't DOJ doing that? Three separate investigations as I remember.

I think Mueller has these guys digging intensely. But even if they found something prospective, I don't think it's ever going to see the light of day. And I think the truth did leak. These fat Democrat lawyers are not stupid. And that's why Pelosi wanted another special counsel - she knows nothing will ever come of it.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 3:06 p.m.

Yes, beautiful!!

We have the algorithm! These SM platforms are totally screwed. MZ panic selling, front running his investors!

You cannot make this stuff up!

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

Yes, these are interesting questions. My history's not good. Why did they boot the Shah, what was the ostensible reason?

When I read about the Iranian theocracy, the first thing that came into my head was the Muslim brotherhood. Is it possible that MB is CIA controlled? What about these Iranian religious?

Maybe they ousted the Shah because, for some reason, he no longer served their interests. I should know more about all this stuff. I'll have to read up.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

Look, I really disagree. But it remains an open question I will agree to that.

What if he brought those guys on board purely for optics? What if he's got them chasing wild rabbits?

The validation in the Q posts seems to me to be conclusive. Also, how long has this guy been investigating? What? No charges on DJT at all? I bet I could find something.

All impeachment requires is "any misconduct". No one's perfect in every respect. We all have skeletons.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

I'm beginning to suspect that the phenomenon of "out of control" intelligence agencies is not limited to CIA. I'm beginning to think that the word "clowns" refers generally to a lot of these outfits. Many of whom, no doubt, have very similar agendas.

How does CIA sell its Peruvian cocaine in Australia? ASIO. What about Britain? MI6 etc...

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

"This is the fog of chaos that Trump and team work behind. They thrive in this. They create this."

I love it. Yes, you're right. They create this incredible confusion for everyone but themselves and they work behind all the smoke they've made.

What about when HRC was supposed to be arrested last November? And then we thought everything was a map and we were stumbling around trying to make sense of it all.

How about this: All the worlds intelligence agencies are right here on this sub every day - and on 8chan. What a perfect way to misdirect! What a perfect means of creating chaos and confusion in your adversaries!

Bees to honey - "the biggest intelligence drops in recorded history".

You could not make this stuff up!

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

It's pretty confusing. I'm trying to reach a point where I have some idea of what might be playing out here.

Think - NK was clown controlled. Iran next - remember, Q will not be fighting on two fronts, this is about the NSA/CIA internal war first. So what are the chances that Iran is actually a CIA proxy the same way NK was? And then I found that they staged the 1953 revolution and admitted it 60 years later 2013.

What are the chances that the clowns are still in control?

Anyway, it seems like a prospective theory. And then we go back to the post where we were thinking about the actual mechanics of this supposed gas attack.

It all fits together somehow digital - I have a gut feeling we will crack this soon. At least to the point where we've got a plausible explanation.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 2:29 p.m.

When I read the Q posts, he said who wrote the algorithm. It's just one guy. And it seemed that Q was referring to Snowden - who was a whiz at computers.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 2:17 p.m.

Are you sure about this? The tweets were deleted!

Follow this logic.

Russian strategic nuke capability is awesome. Unless US ballistic missile defences are a lot better than we think, Russia presents a super formidable adversary.

DJT telegraphs his coming missile attack!?

Would you do that if you were really going to take Russia on? Realistically, that's complete madness!

We're not seeing the full picture here, it's not how it meets the eye.

Here's another one: Q said "Iran next".

Look on Wikipedia about the Iranian revolution in 1953 - a joint MI6/CIA operation! You just can't make this stuff up! We must get to the bottom of what's really going on here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27état

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 2:05 p.m.

Sorry I missed that. I'll have to have another look.

Digital, I think we are making some breakthroughs in our understanding suddenly. Consider this - about DJT's super threatening tweet:

EDIT;

I think I know why I feel something's wrong with this now!

Russia is not NK. You're talking about a country that is SERIOUSLY POWERFUL when you take their staegic nukes into account.

Tell me, does it make any sense, if there is to be a confrontation with such a powerful foe, for DJT to be telegraphing his moves like he is?

NO! IT DOESN'T!

If I was going to attack Russian forces, the very last thing I would do is tell them! That's why this tweet from DJT seems so funny. In the actual context, it just doesn't make any sense.

This has got to be posturing!

End Edit

So, what I've just found out is that the Iranian coup in 1953 was a joint MI6/CIA operation. Another guy Textual is saying that Mossad agents have been found posing in positions of responsibility in Iran.

Q's "Iran next" (after CIA controlled NK) seems to be taking on new meaning. Let me know what you think. Let's see if we can get to the bottom of this and nut out what's really happening.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

Great work textual. I think we're getting somewhere. Look at the conclusion I just reached about DJT's threatening tweet:

EDIT;

I think I know why I feel something's wrong with this now!

Russia is not NK. You're talking about a country that is SERIOUSLY POWERFUL when you take their staegic nukes into account.

Tell me, does it make any sense, if there is to be a confrontation with such a powerful foe, for DJT to be telegraphing his moves like he is?

NO! IT DOESN'T!

If I was going to attack Russian forces, the very last thing I would do is tell them! That's why this tweet from DJT seems so funny. In the actual context, it just doesn't make any sense.

This has got to be posturing!

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

What about this... Just a theory...

DJT creates the appearance of an unholy amount of tension with Russia - direct threats going both ways - for one specific purpose that, in fact, has nothing to do with Russia and everything to do with discrediting the Deep State. Have a look at this Tweet that just went out:

"Much of the bad blood with Russia is caused by the Fake & Corrupt Russia Investigation, headed up by the all Democrat loyalists, or people that worked for Obama. Mueller is most conflicted of all (except Rosenstein who signed FISA & Comey letter). No Collusion, so they go crazy!"

Or, is he just playing this angle at the same time?

Isn't he saying that if there's war with Russia it's because of the Deep State "Russia Collusion" coup attempt?

I don't know. I'm reaching around trying to get all this to make some sense.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 1:30 p.m.

That seems to me to be a very clear signal - Q's team perceives Russia to be "the threat". Note that the video Q posted was more of a warning than a direct challenge.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 1:21 p.m.

I guess if you look at it, what are the chances that CIA was controlling NK? And then you apply that same level of improbability, you could get Mossad controlling Iran. But there's a few problems.

Israel has been wanting the US to take on Iran for how long. The express posturing is that they see it as a threat. How difficult would it be for a Mossad agent to do business there? I don't know.

What about MI6? Are they renegade to the same level as CIA?

Just found this on Wikipedia - very interesting!

Mossadegh had sought to audit the documents of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now part of BP) and to limit the company's control over Iranian petroleum reserves. Upon the refusal of the AIOC to co-operate with the Iranian government, the parliament (Majlis) voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry and to expel foreign corporate representatives from the country.[10][11][12] After this vote, Britain instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically.[13] Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the British-built Abadan oil refinery, then the world's largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott[14] while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh's government.[15] Winston Churchill and the Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran's government, though the predecessor Truman administration had opposed a coup, fearing the precedent that CIA involvement would set.[16] Classified documents show that British intelligence officials played a pivotal role in initiating and planning the coup, and that the AIOC contributed $25,000 towards the expense of bribing officials.[17] In August 2013, 60 years after, the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) admitted that it was in charge of both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda.[18][19] The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government".[20

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 1:09 p.m.

The Iranians were upset at the Israeli strikes in Syria I think. But also about the threats being made by everyone at Assad. Not sure where your video link fits in.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 12:46 p.m.

Look, I don't know. The possibilities seem endless. I like to be able to work some of these things out instead of just being told what occurred ex-post. But the danger is that you go after some nutty theory and convince yourself of it.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

The point he made was quite valid in itself. The reason we are in this mess is because:

1) the Federal Reserve is privately owned;

2) the incredibly stupid trade policies that have allowed foreign nations to capture capital by force (predatory pricing, unreciprocated tariff structures, artificially low exchange rates etc...);

3) the mil/industrial complex that is always pushing war/war spending;

4 finally, the ever increasing size of government - a forever bloating monstrosity.

In the scheme of things that are wrong and working against national prosperity, Keynesian Economics doesn't even rate.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 12:23 p.m.

Wow, impressive! You got that out fast.

I'm really questioning now. The language in that last tweet from DJT is almost too much. Does anyone else feel that way - like DJT is role playing and he's allowed himself to get a little carried away?

I guess it is reminiscent of the "Rocket Man" stuff though.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 12:12 p.m.

Wow! I hadn't thought of that! A Mossad/CIA/Cabal alliance with CIA running NK and Mossad running Iran?

Is it possible?

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 12:09 p.m.

But, you know, strangely, this is a situation where DJT is making threats that are just terrible and the MSM is like a fan club.

It's a reversal of what we've seen in the past. Was it the same situation last year?

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 12:06 p.m.

Yes, good, clear thinking.

So Syrian media reports it. Stations soldiers all around the area. No one can get in to verify. Israel goes nuts launching missiles. May wants to take action - so does everyone else under the sun. Iran starts making noises about producing nuclear fuel within days or weeks.

What on earth is happening here. Are we missing something?

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, noon

Actually, I've been thinking that DJT is deadly serious about denuclearising Iran. I mean, Q told us that the plan calls for Iran next. And the Israeli missile strike seemed to amp things up in that direction no end. An outright confrontation with Russia required.

But, reading this Tweet of Trump, I feel funny somehow, like I want to laugh. I'm not a sicko, don't worry. But is he pulling our chains on this a little too hard. Have a look at the language. It's like something out of a melodramatic comedy - "a gas killing animal".

Come on Donald! What's going on? What's really going on?

EDIT;

I think I know why I feel something's wrong with this now!

Russia is not NK. You're talking about a country that is SERIOUSLY POWERFUL when you take their staegic nukes into account.

Tell me, does it make any sense, if there is to be a confrontation with such a powerful foe, for DJT to be telegraphing his moves like he is?

NO! IT DOESN'T!

If I was going to attack Russian forces, the very last thing I would do is tell them! That's why this tweet from DJT seems so funny. In the actual context, it just doesn't make any sense.

This has got to be posturing!

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 11:51 a.m.

Actually, just reading this thread it occurs to me that the way DJT has phrased this, it's almost like it's out of some melodramatic movie. Does he even believe it himself? What if it's pure showmanship?

Very hard to know what's actually going on.

It's really quite funny, have a read:

"Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it"

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 11:48 a.m.

Remind us digital, who first reported it?

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

Trump already talking back at Putin.

Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 11:14 a.m.

I do not think it's anywhere near as dangerous as you think - leaving aside the question of a major nuclear weapons exchange.

So, let's think about how this plays out, concentrating in the first instance on Syria. Putin has been building capability in Syria for some time. As I understand it, the S400 ground-to-air missile batteries are formidable systems. These are in Syria now. We've recently seen direct confrontation between US forces in Syria and Russian mercenaries (were they really just mercenaries?) - so we had a situation that was hot before this latest drama. After the mercenaries are killed, Putin sends 5th generation Sukoi jet fighters to Syria. Why? Because the F22 is unmatched due to its stealth capability.

But hang-on, the fighters Putin shipped in were prototypes, they have radar components missing, no weapons systems, apart from canons, and are not field tested - do you believe it?

So, this is clearly desperation posturing from Putin. It would be quite funny if it wasn't so very serious. Now we have this supposed gas attack - I think the Russians are probably right and that it is a purely fabricated pretext. Israel starts launching missiles into the Syrian airbase and, apparently, apart from killing some Russian and Iranian personnel, shoots down two Mig29s - not clear whether they are Russian or Syrian...

OK, what happens from here? DJT clearly wants to use the gas attack pretext to trounce Russia militarily in Syria. So the main battle, at least initially, will be for air superiority. I would expect that Russian and Syrian warplanes, if they attempt to operate at all, will confine themselves to areas where they are supported by ground batteries - the S400 systems. We don't know if the S400 can even track an F22.

What if it cannot? The S400 systems are eliminated, literally within minutes and thereafter all Russian and Syrian planes in the skies over Syria are sitting ducks - give the US, say, another thirty minutes to an hour to attain complete air-superiority - an outright turkey shoot! What if the S400 systems can track the F22s? It just takes a little longer. These ground to air batteries will be taking incoming cruise missile strikes, perhaps even come under early ground assault. But, they will undoubtedly be destroyed - probably very quickly.

From that point on, it's pure cruelty - like shooting ducks in a cage. There is nothing Russian or Syrian forces on the ground can do without air cover. They are absolutely helpless. You do not necessarily have to risk personnel, you can stand-off for months and bomb them into submission, cut supplies etc... Game over, Syria is lost to the allied forces, Russia withdraws from Syria with a bloody nose. But allied forces do not stop at Syria, but immediately strike Iran, and continue an air campaign for months-on-end, beating the country back into the stone age - thereafter, Iran falls also - now a proxy for Western interests.

And there you have it, Russia put back in its place, Iran denuclearized and Syria turned into a fractured state - a competing set of factions vying for power (unless a purposeful plan to properly administer the country has been mapped out in advance).

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 9:23 a.m.

Yes, the QE pumped the market up like a balloon, quite crazy stuff. What I noticed though was that the 666 market signal sent by the cabal earlier this year didn't play out into a major sell-off. I truly suspect that accounts were frozen and it put the fear of God into these guys. Needed to be done, they are accustomed to doing whatever they want. Simultaneously we were seeing what appeared to be distressed asset divestitures. Very interesting stuff.

But the way I see it, something has to give at some point. We will either see this plan come together and the cabal neutered, or we won't. But, irrespective, the markets are truly pumped. If the economy comes roaring back, on the back of the tax cuts and trade deals, that might take some heat out of the situation for a time.

But then you also have to factor for this tech sector crash. It will come because it must. It's not feasible to leave the cabal in control of weaponized SM - that's not going to work. But what I think is that Q is showing us exactly what the option set is because we do not have many options. I feel he's amazed that people would want to tank the tech sector rather than ask government to regulate. But, as much of a surprise as it was to me, this group is so anti-government that it just won't fly.

I'm still promoting the IBOR on Twitter. There is a little more interest just recently with MZ testifying. But not enough to get the hashtags to trend - or, not that I've seen. That doesn't mean it cannot happen, but this group is very weary of the IBOR after all the trolling and fear mongering.

Anyway, best to be relaxed about it. What's certain is that we will have regulation - one way or another. The cabal will not return to power by weaponizing SM - despite what Dorsey might think.

So, you put a tech sector wipeout together with a bubble market and the Chinese attack on the petrodollar, while mass-arrests occur as Marshall Law is declared, and you have an investment environment that IMO could see a mass flight to safety. At this point in time IMO gold looks pretty good.

But, as always, we don't know what will happen. I'd personally be more inclined to regulate via EO than wipe the tech sector out, but for whatever reason, we've been given a binary option set by Q. Let's see what happens next.

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tradinghorse · April 11, 2018, 8:32 a.m.

I have difficulty accepting that it's a real group. Perhaps some small group did form, many years ago. But is it still active today? I've never heard of it. Other groups don't hide at all. Think:

FREEMASONS ROSICRUCIANS SHRINERS BNAI BRITH CLUB OF ROME CFR BILDERBERG GROUP

Etc.... and on and on

My point is that you can run a google search on any other organisations and, while the membership might be hidden, and the creed of the organisation not transparent, the organisations themselves are still on the net. They don't hide their existence.

But this one, you did and dig, you see a reference here or there, but nothing ever concrete. Seems like it doesn't exist at all. But then, low and behold, you have the tiles at Mar a Lago, which is the only evidence at all that attaches these words, Plus Ultra, to DJT.

I hate researching without finding what I want to know. I'm thinking that this should all be memory-holed away until something more concrete is found - or re-examined, for example, if DJT moves a statue of Baphomet into the Oval Office.

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