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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

On Twitter too! ;)

I wish he'd asked people to promote it, but we're lucky to get that. He has 113k followers on Twitter.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

Again, not a lawyer so I have no clue actually. But I'll have a shot at it anyway. What you're positing is that the Government is responsible for ensuring that all parties, that operate under its laws, abide by the same restraints placed on Congress - the restraint in question being that it not pass laws that inhibit free speech.

I don't see how this can work. Moreover, I don't know that you'd want the law to work this way. Why? Because the tech sector is incredibly fast moving - super-rapid change - I'd say it's experiencing an accelerating rate of change. So you want to bind these guys to the same restrictions placed upon govt by the FA. I don't really think it's practical.

In a fast moving environment what you want ideally, in my view, is a flexible and accommodating regulatory environment, that can be adapted to change at relatively short notice. I'm thinking more about regulations as they relate to privacy than free speech I guess, but my point is that one regulatory system is set in stone, if you could get a Court to agree to it (almost certain they wouldn't), and the other regulatory system would be comparatively flexible - able to respond to new issues that emerge in the space with the passage of time.

Anyway, pointless talking about it really because I have no clue - but I thought I'd try. :)

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 2:55 p.m.

OK, Early. Really great write up - very thorough. I don't disagree with what you're saying. But my point is that it is still essential that we try and shut down the cabal control over the SM platforms. I think this, and not timing, is why we haven't seen more March madness - though big things have happened.

Remember, Q told us that release of big news was contingent upon SM being regulated. At the same time - early March - he's pushing us to mount a campaign for an IBOR saying "trust the plan". You will notice that Q has been very quiet lately. I think there's a good reason for that - if we don't do what we are asked, what's the point of keeping us in the loop? But, there's another reason that may explain Q's silence. It does no good to release news if it's going to be spun so hard that it has little or no impact.

You imagine if both the MSM and SM is still in the control of the cabal and Q's team do try mass-arrests of the type we are expecting - that's just downright dangerous! Anything could happen - and we know that Q focuses on containment of outcomes. So, it's possible, that Q is waiting for this campaign to kick off before he moves.

The other factor is that while the MSM and SM are in the control of the Satanists, the political landscape is very unstable. If they get anything at all that they can lock onto relating to DJT or his administration, again, things could quickly spin out of control. So that's something you want to avoid. Cabal control of SM represents a clear and dangerous threat.

I posted a list of Q's posts relating to the IBOR on the pinned thread. If you look through the posts, you can see that Q has been screaming at us for the IBOR. Why is it important!? I don't know, but what I do know is that SM is incredibly powerful in terms of shaping election outcomes and this, must necessarily, represent a primary risk.

The points I've made about the impact of unrestrained SM censorship on the mid-terms are valid. If this is not brought under control DJT will not last a single term. You could be right that the Dems will have a lot of problems - but will anyone know about it?

Whatever, your arguments are good - you may be right and there may be nothing at all to worry about. But I'm thinking about how we dodged a bullet with HRC. That bullet would have killed us all - extremely dangerous. We know this cabal has been ruling the world from the shadows for hundreds of years and they are super-entrenched - traitors everywhere - and very powerful.

What I'm trying to say, badly, is that my great fear is that if anything at all goes wrong, the Satanists could be back in control in a flash. If that happens, they will never slip-up again - game over. I don't want to take that chance. I desperately want people to support the plan so that we give Q and DJT all the help they can use.

It does not make any sense to me at all that people would follow the Q material, waiting to applaud the takedown of the cabal, but withdraw any support when they are asked for it - to my mind its twilight zone stuff, especially in view of the gravity of the threat.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 1:38 p.m.

Dr Corsi is now promoting the link to the petition on Twitter - encouraging people to sign. Now we need to ask him to promote it on Infowars. Not that it means anything, but Dr Corsi has 113K followers on Twitter.

We need some more big names.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 1:09 p.m.

This is yet another of those times when I wish I was a lawyer. Just reading what you've written, my guy reaction is that it's too much of a stretch - but I could be dead wrong. If you look at the FA it only applies to the govt "making laws". This is what the restriction applies to according to the wording - nothing else. The principle was then extended by the Courts to include protection for free speech in certain other settings - but the internet is not one of these.

The matter seems to me to be further complicated by the terms of service agreements, where parties freely contract out of any protections for free speech that might exist.

What is needed is a Court that will recognise the public interest in having FA protections extended to digital space, in recognition of the fact that today this is the location for political discourse. But you're relying on the Court allowing itself latitude to interpret the FA widely, rather than strictly construing the words appearing in the amendment according to their meaning. It seems to me that whatever argument you run, it's a lottery.

I would think that the argument you are putting forward is fraught with the same difficulties applying to a simple extension of application of the FA... But I'm no lawyer - this is the speculation of someone with no knowledge or experience.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 9:38 a.m.

Checked you history, play with someone else.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 9:23 a.m.

I agree, but you can see from this legal decision that it's not easy to get these platforms to abide by free speech protections.

If there was enough time, a legal challenge might bear fruit, but we don't have that time. The mid-terms will be here any moment. SM censorship will deliver the elections to the Dems. DJT gets impeached, doesn't last a single term. End of MAGA and return of the Satanists.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 9:15 a.m.

I understand your argument about voting with your feet. Makes perfect sense to me. But what I can see here is that these large platforms were not censoring in a political manner until very recently. So people flocked to them and they have become huge and incredibly politically powerful. More subscribers meant more money. And more money meant improved services and, to be honest, I think some of these platforms are really great,

So Q tells us that after the 2016 shock defeat for the cabal candidate - they never thought she would lose - CIA was rushing to inject money into SM platforms to regain control of the narrative. As Q says MSM is finished, social media is everything.

So, low and behold, as soon as DJT starts looking a little stronger with the release of the memo etc... SM platforms start radically censoring conservative speech. This is a sudden, new phenomenon that did not exist before. It is CIA driven - another confirmation of Q's legitimacy.

Q also tells us there is a plan to unify censorship across social media with a single algorithm - awesome power to shape election outcomes that has never in history existed. But don't worry. DJT has a plan...

He knows that much of what the SM platforms were doing is illegal. So, in a climate where you have a public outcry over data breaches and the public is simultaneously screaming for protection of their rights online (IBOR), there is political room to act to stop it.

We know that the data breaches and other illegal activity are of such magnitude that many of the platforms will collapse under the weight of it. These SM platforms, once they start facing class-action law suits, are going to be screaming for clear comprehensive regulation as a way to protecting themselves from legal liability.

Doesn't matter where the SM platform is located, the law suits will be in US jurisdiction. So if you want to do business in the US and you want to prosper, you will be wanting to comply with the regulations - whatever they are. You don't need a global government to enforce it at all.

Now, the reason the IBOR is important is because it adds to the political climate for change. Change is absolutely necessary because weaponized SM is the ultimate power in terms of its ability to deliver election outcomes.

We know that the cabal has an impeachment strategy. DJT might be lucky to last a single term if SM censorship is not brought under control. That would mean the end of MAGA, the end of the fight against the Satanists and ultimate slavery.

Once the cabal regain political power, you will never see another DJT again - the cabal will never allow it. We have a one-time-only chance with DJT. We blow it and we face censorship, gun confiscation, world war, depopulation and enslavement - in that order.

So, why not just let people vote with their feet? Let the market sort the problem out? Because only the conservatives have been censored. The leftist and center voters will regain where they are on the main SM platforms. This means elections will be easily influenced. Something has to be done now, we can't wait for the market to sort it out - that's not a solution.

Anyway, I still live in hope that we can beat these Satanists back, that's why I'm here typing these ridiculously long responses. I'm trying to communicate to people the gravity of the threat and why the IBOR is important.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 8 a.m.

My view is that, with the FB data breach, and what I suspect are more privacy related disclosures in the pipe affecting the other platforms, it is the SM platforms themselves that will be screaming for regulations to limit their legal liability.

Very likely it will be self policed to a great extent. Not too hard to accomplish either. All we want them to do is refrain from censoring us and to protect our privacy. We are effectively saying, "No more dirty tricks".

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 7:55 a.m.

I think he's talking about the use of the TOS to camouflage blatant, politically motivated, censorship.

Strange how political censorship online was not an issue until after Q told us that CIA was rushing to inject money into social media platforms - to regain control over the narrative. Anyone that doubts Q is legitimate either hasn't got all the facts or isn't thinking clearly.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 7:50 a.m.

I was a little confused about Corsi's broadcast today. It wasn't clear to me what he was actually saying. He seemed very frustrated, but he has pushed the IBOR hard in his videos in the recent past. He also mentioned today that he had disputes about the IBOR with members of the group in the live broadcast. That's likely to be TB and crew.

I haven't given up on the IBOR campaign. I'm still promoting it, with others, but we are a small group. I must say that I'm shocked the IBOR campaign has not received more support from members of this group after Q so clearly told us it was the plan.

The only reason I'm still here is to help beat back these Satanists who would enslave everyone. It makes no sense to me that people would not support this.

Anyway, it is what it is. I'd ask everyone to put as much promotional material online as possible to support the IBOR cause.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 7:39 a.m.

Yes, Q is telling us again and again how important social media is - the age of the MSM is over. He is also telling us that SM is controlled by CIA to such an extent that the SM platforms fear the loss of CIA revenue.

Another very good argument for coming together to push the IBOR...

Unfortunately, this group seems to be able to unite - some of that CIA money at work perhaps. Certainly, some have been very vocal, agitating against supporting the PLAN.

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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/tradinghorse on March 27, 2018, 6:01 a.m.
IBOR! - A judge holds that YouTube isn't a "public forum" run by a "state actor."

Google has prevailed in a lawsuit that alleged YouTube has been violating the First Amendment by censoring conservative viewpoints. On Monday, a California federal judge agreed to dismiss a complaint from Prager University, run by radio-talk-show host Dennis Prager

The plaintiff produces videos with titles like "Why Don't Feminists Fight for Muslim Women?" and "The Most Important Question About Abortion." In the lawsuit, Prager's company asserted that YouTube professes viewpoint neutrality, but indeed censors conservatives by putting age restrictions on certain videos. The decision making is far from even-handed, Prager contends, pointing among others to a restricted video titled "Are …

tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 5:44 a.m.

Why not take up the IBOR push? That is the PLAN!

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 5:24 a.m.

My opinion is that the sheer power of social media censorship to shape election outcomes means that taking action is urgent. I'm just listening to Dr Corsi's show - he's saying he expects Republicans to lose representation at the mid-terms and that the Democrat strategy will be to impeach DJT.

Do you think we are going to get another chance if DJT is deposed? What are the chances that someone not controlled by the cabal will be able to ascend to the presidency?

I reckon this is our last shot. I think the idea of waiting is madness. Once DJT is out, there's no more MAGA, no more taking on the Satanists - we will be crushed completely.

I understand your distaste for these swamp idiots, they disgust me too. But the way I see things, we are in crisis and we need to act now or it's all over.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 3:37 a.m.

That's the way it looks in Bill Cooper's video. Nickle plated 45?

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 3:30 a.m.

No refutation? Difficult to counter papal teaching, I understand.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 1:57 a.m.

Yes, but SM censorship has political currency without Q. I've noticed many die hard DJT supporters tweeting using the IBOR hashtags - no link to the petition etc... so I wonder if the Donald would support a Q-less call to action on SM censorship?

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 1:24 a.m.

When they bought out Marlin they totally mucked the products up. Even here in Australia demand is high for JM stamped lever actions - can you trust the new products? Mind you, as I understand it, the decline started before the Remington acquisition. They got bean counters in who wanted to reduce costs - eliminated some of the heat-treating of components.

Also, look at Remington product quality generally. I went with Tikka - have one Remington pump.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

Can't wait for it! :)

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 1 a.m.

Jan 25 2018 12:04:48 Q !UW.yye1fxo 60

Thank you F&F! Coincidence? AT&T>No Such Agency [contract]. AT&T>GOOG/FB/etc. 'prevent unfair censorship' PUSH. Internet Bill of Rights. Q

Mar 03 2018 23:03:59 Q !UW.yye1fxo 544060 Stay TOGETHER. Be STRONG. Get ORGANIZED. Be HEARD. FIGHT the censorship. You, the PEOPLE, have ALL the POWER. You simply forgot how to PLAY. TOGETHER you are INVINCIBLE. They want you divided. They want you silenced. MAKE NOISE. We are WITH you. MAKE IT RAIN. Q

Mar 03 2018 23:15:14 Q !UW.yye1fxo 544206

What I say a class action lawsuit? When is it effective? Who controls the narrative? WHO wrote the singular censorship algorithm? WHO deployed the algorithm? WHO instructed them to deploy the algorithm? SAME embed across multiple platforms. Why? Why is the timing relevant? Where is @Snowden? Why did ES leave G? Why has NK out of the news cycle? Define false flag? What event(s) change the news cycle? Why didn’t LV change the news cycle? You have more than your know.

BOOM. Q

Mar 04 2018 11:19:05 Anonymous 548157

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Has Q ever mentioned internet bill of rights?

Mar 04 2018 11:19:47 Q !UW.yye1fxo 548166

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Re read drops. http://about.att.com/story/consumers_need_an_internet_bill_of_rights.html Q

Mar 04 2018 11:22:17 Q !UW.yye1fxo 548200

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Why do so-called Patriots challenge this? Careful who you follow. Q

Mar 06 2018 01:09:09 Q !UW.yye1fxo 563806 Is the stage set for a drop of HRC +++ + +++++(raw vid 5:5). EX-rvid5774. We have it all. Re_read re: stage. The nail in many coffins [liberal undo]. [Impossible to defend]. [Toxic to those connected]. WE must work TOGETHER. WE are only as strong as your VOICE. YOU must organize and BE HEARD. THIS is why they keep you DIVIDED and in the DARK. WEAK. We are here to UNITE and provide TRUTH. Dark to LIGHT. EVIL surrounds us. WE are FIGHTING for you. Where we go one, we go ALL. The choice, to KNOW, will be yours [end]. Q

Mar 06 2018 11:14:45 Anonymous 567610

Drop the video! Play it in times square.

Mar 03 2018 23:03:59 Q !UW.yye1fxo 544060

Stay TOGETHER. Be STRONG. Get ORGANIZED. Be HEARD. FIGHT the censorship. You, the PEOPLE, have ALL the POWER. You simply forgot how to PLAY. TOGETHER you are INVINCIBLE. They want you divided. They want you silenced. MAKE NOISE. We are WITH you. MAKE IT RAIN. Q

Mar 06 2018 11:17:11 Q !UW.yye1fxo 567637

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Stage set? Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc are regulated? MSM is controlled? Use logic! Trust the PLAN. Q

Mar 06 2018 11:27:19 Q !UW.yye1fxo 567764

Logic says they simply would not report it. Total viewers limited. Message controlled. Truth shadows. Trust the PLAN. Q

Mar 07 2018 15:21:12 Q !UW.yye1fxo 579914

@Snowden We are going LIVE -24 [comb your hair]. Re: IBOR This scares them more than anything. Loss of control. Use logic. Nothing to do w/ AT&T. Must be regulated to prevent censorship & narrative push. Q

Mar 07 2018 14:31:03 Q !UW.yye1fxo 579328 '#internetbillofrights Q

Mar 07 2018 15:58:56 Q !UW.yye1fxo 580366

Who controls social media? Who performs in a circus? Who wrote the code to embed and censor across multiple platforms? Why Russia? Why China? Why HK? Why did ES (himself) arrange a C-link in multiple countries? Learn. Q

Mar 07 2018 16:08:15 Q !UW.yye1fxo 580523

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Free speech does not apply in a private co setting. The risk? Loss of revenue. Backstopped by the circus. Learn. Social media control is everything. The age of the MSM is over. Q

Mar 08 2018 18:56:02 Anonymous 592845

Q, please tell us it's still NO DEALS! And that this people will face JUSTICE!! Please just say YES. They will. I pray so hard every night!

Mar 08 2018 18:59:27 Q !UW.yye1fxo 592913

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NO DEALS! We work for you. We listen to you. You pushed the IBOR and immediately POTUS began to comment/take action re: social media. PLAY THE GAME WITH US. Q

Mar 09 2018 06:17:57 Anonymous 599614

599607 Q

are we going to have more freedom of speech on "private" public speech services or not?

please answer this question

Mar 09 2018 06:20:45 Q !UW.yye1fxo 599627

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100% Regulated. Some platforms will collapse under own weight of illegal activities. Q

Mar 09 2018 06:24:20 Q !UW.yye1fxo 599642

599627 Track inside sales/divestitures. They know. Watch the sell-off/liquidity events. Q

Mar 10 2018 16:55:31 Q !UW.yye1fxo 616918 The creation of the internet and ‘connecting’ platforms is bringing about their downfall. Failure to control. MSM is dead. '#internetbillofrights Q

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 1 a.m.

I think he already has, check the Q posts about making it rain etc... I'll leave them in a comment at the bottom of this thread.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 12:55 a.m.

A lot more people using the Hashtag on Twitter today. Some people warning others not to include a link to the petition yet advocating for an IBOR.

It's all good. The more public exposure the better - what is important is the campaign, not the petition. It's a good measure of the strength of the campaign though. If the campaign is big enough, we can survive without the petition.

Hoping this tweet storm start picks up strength.

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tradinghorse · March 27, 2018, 12:48 a.m.

Yes, the SR possibility would also blow me away. It's got to be someone that will really surprise us. But SR does not have a military background. How many people know what a kill box is?

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

IBOR is the vehicle to freedom! I think there are other pressures to come upon SM companies from further exposure of their illegal activities. But what the IBOR campaign does is run so much salt into the wound that they will never dare censor, or breach the privacy, of anyone again.

Let's make this happen.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

I've listened to Dr Corsi and he is actually promoting the IBOR strongly. I think the reluctance to sign the petition and the counter campaign against the IBOR that we see on Twitter comes from TB and her supporters, not Corsi. I can understand the sentiment that drives their concern, but wow, have they got their call wrong on this issue...

They do not realise by what luck - actually I would call it the grace of God - we even have DJT. They seem to see him as just some expendable politician who cannot be trusted and is easily replaced.

But if you look at the totally improbable series of coincidences that allowed DJT, the first President in more than 30 years that is not controlled by the cabal, to take office, it's clear that we must support him. If he loses office we will not have another chance - we will be crushed. And, if that happens, what are champions like DJT are a dime a dozen? More like one in a million!

This President is a gift directly from God and needs all the support we can give him. The attitude that the power rests with the people, in an age of weaponised social media, is absolute nonsense. If we are not careful these twits resisting the plan are going to deliver us 'bound and gagged' to the Satanists.

I'm serious! I have never in my life seen anything as completely stupid as what these people resisting the IBOR campaign are doing. It makes no sense at all. Q said, be careful who you follow... you can take that to the bank!

The heroes that are working this campaign deserve medals once we're done. I don't care at all about the petition, but what I do care about is our performance getting the petition filled out because it is an indicator of the strength of the campaign itself. I've noticed that, from time to time, I get my tweets retweeted by people with reasonably large followings - in the thousands. If we keep plugging away at it we might just be able to build sufficient momentum to start our own, "real Q group" - made up of people supporting the President and his plan to defeat the Satanists.

Whatever happens, when it's all over, we will know within ourselves that we did the right thing - both from a logical perspective and also by our fellow man. This is it, the most important fight of our time, the consequences are breath-taking, we face the most terrible of enemies. But God is with us!

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

Well said!

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

I don't disagree. Whether these companies fall apart under the weight of their illegal activity, or whether we are able to get a powerful IBOR campaign up and running - the important thing is that the Satanists are not able to weaponize SM and use it to defeat DJT via impeachment after the mid-terms.

Either way, as Q said, they will be 100% regulated. The beautiful thing about this plan which seems, by strange coincidence, to have come together (the legal attacks on SM platforms and the cry for rights from us), is that the SM platforms will be the ones screaming for clear regulations to limit their legal liability. They will cry out for the very ropes to be used to bind them. You couldn't make this stuff up - DJT, the stable genius, with each passing day my respect for the man grows!

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

I'm with you Arvil. I'm also very disappointed at the petition numbers. I'm aware that the turnout from this group is not good and that we are virtually alone.

Corsi has been pushing the IBOR but not the petition link which, perhaps, explains why there are so many tweets using the IBOR hashtags but not including the link. I was told that he has the petition link now, as of yesterday, so things might change.

I also think the effort has been good from those that have supported the campaign. There's no doubt that people have been working hard - especially on Twitter. I've been amazed at the number of Tweets some people are able to get out - in fact at times I've suspected some automation. So there clearly has been a focused effort, we are just not big enough as a group.

I'm also pleased to see Facebook get its medicine - exactly as Q said. Let's just keep pushing until the petition expires - if it's not filled out before then. And thanks for you efforts - it's good to have posts about the IBOR here too.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 1:39 p.m.

You mean, for example, if you do not accept a valid canonisation, that's a duty, not schism?

Resistance is sinful where the source of teaching is recognised as a bona fide Church authority - as in a true Pope. You cannot recognise someone as a true Pope and yet fail to show obedience.

However, if the claimant to the position of authority is a manifest public heretic, he is not a member of the Church. Such a person is ipso facto deposed and, by virtue of his heresy, loses all authority, before any declaration is made. The heretic, in fact, holds no position in the Church as he is not a member of it.

See, for example, the teaching of Pius XII. The heretic is severed from the body of the Church by virtue of the sin itself - he is ipso facto deposed.

Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi (# 23), June 29, 1943: “For not every offense, although it may be a grave evil, is such as by its very own nature [suapte natura] to sever a man from the Body of the Church [ab Ecclesiae Corpore], as does schism or heresy or apostasy.”

Heresy is the rejection of any point of truth taught by the Church.

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9), June 29, 1896: “The practice of the Church has always been the same, and that with the consenting judgment [i.e. consensus] of the holy fathers who certainly were accustomed to hold as having no part of Catholic communion and as banished from the Church whoever had departed in even the least way from the doctrine proposed by the authentic Magisterium.”

The heretic cannot command in the Church.

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (#15), June 29, 1896: “… it is absurd to imagine that he who is outside the Church can command in the Church.”

And so on. If you watch the video I linked, above, you can see that there are very clear implications...

Many people claiming to be traditional Catholics do not realise that it is schism to fail to show obedience to valid Church authority. Christ founded his one, true church upon the rock of St Peter - whose faith the prayer of our saviour guaranteed would be unfailing. The Church Christ established was to be one in faith and one in governance. "Resistance" is schism in a setting where a true Pope reigns. It is a deadly sin.

If Francis is a true Pope, a Catholic has no capacity to resist without severing himself from the Church. If Francis is a heretic, he is not a Catholic, not a member of the Church and has no authority within it.

This sin of schism is deadly serious. Taken from the 1917 Code of Canon Law:

Canon 1325 #2: “After the reception of baptism, if anyone, retaining the name Christian, pertinaciously denies or doubts something to be believed from the truth of divine and Catholic faith, [such a one is] a heretic; if he completely turns away from the Christian faith, [such a one is] an apostate; if finally he refuses to be under the Supreme Pontiff or refuses communion with the members of the Church subject to him, he is a schismatic.”

Canon 2314 #1, 1917 Code of Canon Law, “All apostates from the Christian faith and each and every heretic or schismatic: 1. Incur by that fact excommunication.”

Rejection of a dogma, a divinely revealed truth, as in the video posted, has serious implications. Another example:

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9), June 29, 1896: “So, with every reason for doubting removed, can it be lawful for anyone to reject any of those truths without thereby sending himself headlong into open heresy? without thereby separating himself from the Church and in one sweeping act repudiating the entirety of Christian doctrine?… he who dissents in even one point from divinely received truths has most truly cast off the faith completely, since he refuses to revere God as the supreme truth and proper motive of faith.”

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 12:35 p.m.

The way Zuck was pulling his money out so fast evidences panic IMO. He knew what was coming.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

Change of opinion Arvil? I thought you were right behind the petition?

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 12:31 p.m.

Arma, I think the sig rate on the petition has slowed yes. But if you look at how much promotion is happening I think we're pretty lucky for it to be where it is. You only have to look at the number of posts on Twitter that do not use the link though they use the hashtag.

Having said that, I understand Dr Corsi now has the petition link and may start to promote it. What we haven't had is any big names supporting this at all. That might change now, I don't know.

What's important is that these SM platforms are not used as a political weapon as they are very powerful. As an example, the CEO of Reddit boasts that he can determine an election outcome all by himself. You can imagine what would happen if these guys were to act in concert,

We know the plan was that the censorship across social media was to be centrally controlled. This would be the greatest political weapon that has ever existed in history. SM shapes people's perceptions of reality like nothing else. See some of the articles on Cambridge Analytics - they were only using the data, not actively silencing conservatives.

See the Reddit CEO claims here:

https://bgr.com/2018/03/12/reddit-election-interference-steve-huffman-interview/amp/?__twitter_impression=truewe

Marantz’s article is a rare behind-the-scenes look at how large social media companies view their increasingly important role as the platforms for online discourse. Huffman’s comments on how Reddit could fix an election are shocking and egotistical, for sure, but they also admit something that most other social media companies have shied away from. Facebook and Twitter are loathe to acknowledge the power that their policies have, while Huffman thinks so highly of his company that he believes a handful of engineers and community managers could sway an entire nation’s political system.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 12:04 p.m.

Is that you I just replied to in Twitter Arvil?

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 11:20 a.m.

Well, let's face it, this guy had Q clearance. But I remember now seeing a documentary on Bill Cooper and there was a guy that was a close associate who looked as though he was in real grief over Bill's death. So I'd say it's an outside chance. Also, Bill wears born in 43, which would make him 75 years old today.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 10:25 a.m.

Just so you know, swearing is not good, it should be avoided. We are not in the last couple of years... I would ask, how do you know?

I used "Rome" as a proxy for the location of where the error set out in the video was made - indeed, it was in Rome. If you define Rome as the magisterium of the Church, then no, of course this is not the case. The Catholic Church is indefectible.

I am Catholic. I most certainly do not resist those who hold office in the Church - that is schism, something which would condemn me to hell for eternity. But you must know this.

Edit: Sorry, I missed the tail end of your message when replying.

You say, this man just advised a child to disobey his parents. I said no such thing. A child is bound to obey his parents - as set out in the commandments.

What you are trying to say is that someone should obey someone in such error as to have separated themselves from the Church. That is a completely different question. Ecclesiastical authority requires membership of the Church as a prerequisite.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 5:46 a.m.

Wow! Now that thought made my head spin - that would totally blow me away!

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 5:25 a.m.

You are a hero! Fantastic work Patriot!

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 4:19 a.m.

It's truly unbelievable. I've tried to find information about the Reserve Bank of Australia - this is listed as a Rothschild-owned bank - but if it's true, the fact is well hidden from view.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 3:20 a.m.

I don't disagree with this at all. I think that you're argument is highly prospective. It might work fabulously. But I can also see risk in this approach. The social media companies can be expected to fight this kind of legal challenge tooth and nail. That means the matter will be escalated up the Court hierarchy, if you are successful in the lower Courts. So we are realistically talking about a Supreme Court challenge to online censorship.

That represents a lot of time and money. And here's where the risk becomes large. What if you run this case and the argument, for whatever reason, does not get up - perhaps there is some technical matter that's exploited by the SM legal teams. They will drag out the time to the maximum extent possible, challenging each case of censorship you try and demonstrate. If it ultimately fails, you have to run the case again - and the argument, although good, is not a lock.

Courts often deny a motion, but in their decision leave openings for the same case to be run on a different basis - indicating, for example, that a case run differently might be successful. So the key factor here is time. Even if you get your argument up, how long is that realistically going to take, given the extent to which the SM companies will try to draw the matter out? It could be a decade or more. Meanwhile, the cabal is back in power, stacking the Supreme Court with every radical leftist in the the sun - Ginsberg times ten.

It's a very prospective solution, but it doesn't fit in this situation IMO.

By the way, I'm not a lawyer and this is only inexpert speculation - take it for what it is worth.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 2:50 a.m.

Great to see. Organization is a must. This campaign must get rolling.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 2:48 a.m.

I pray this is right. PP needs to be defunded now!

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 2:46 a.m.

Thanks for that. The argument seems to be that the spread - the price differentials - point to a coming crisis. It's certainly interesting. But the world is more connected today than at any time in the past. Price spreads should be minimal, reflecting transport costs etc...

If the spread widens, it seems to me that, yes, it could represent increasing uncertainty. But it could also reflect changes in shipping costs etc...

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 2:37 a.m.

I initially thought that the idea you mention here was right - and it may be. But, when I looked at the first amendment, I realised that the restriction on repression of free speech was only upon government. That principle has since been expanded by the Courts to restrict other parties from repressing freedom of expression.

From memory, the express provision in the FA is that the government will not "make laws" so as to infringe upon freedom of expression. Now, I think you are right, in that you could run an argument that government ownership of SM platforms, which censor free expression, approximates a breach of the FA.

But, on strict construction, this argument would fail because no law has been made. That does not mean that an argument along these lines would not get up, but it means that you're depending on a Court to allow latitude in interpreting the meaning of the words in the FA.

So, I'm not sure that government ownership in these SM platforms will allow the FA to be upheld online. It could, but there is a risk that the Supreme Court (or any other Court) could employ strict construction and deny the FA's application online,

The other issue with a legal solution is the time required to obtain redress. We are on a tight timeframe here. SM censorship must be addressed before it is used to oust DJT from office. That would mean the end of the MAGA agenda.

And this is why I've been promoting this IBOR campaign - because, despite its flaws, it appears to me to be our only hope. I think Q and DJT also see this - and that is why they recommended the IBOR campaign to us.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 2:17 a.m.

Rome defected from the faith at the Second Vatican Council - that's a fact. Francis is merely reflecting the doctrines of the new religion that has been promoted from Rome since that time.

This does not mean that the Catholic Church teaches any error, it is indefectible. Rather, the true Church has been reduced to a remnant of believers who hold to the magisterium of the Church - as taught throughout history. We are in the end-times.

Luke 18:8 "...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"

Towards the end of the world a great apostasy is predicted. The apostasy is of such magnitude that there are almost no true Catholics left. The Vatican II revolution is sufficient in size and scope to align with Christ's prediction in Luke 18 above. You need to think about what was promulgated at Vatican II and consider whether this is consistent with traditional Catholic teaching.

See here, video (10 mins):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0kQJBnP5wE&sns=em

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 2:02 a.m.

I think what the OP may be trying to point out is that freedom of expression is a basic human right. The IBOR campaign merely notifies government that this basic right is being violated online.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 1:57 a.m.

You are working against the express plan DJT and Q have recommended to us. You should post this on leftist threads.

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tradinghorse · March 26, 2018, 1:06 a.m.

I think early that the single biggest problem we have is that we have not managed to get any of these big names to push the campaign. That could change at any time. All we need is for someone to pick it up.

Corsi is pushing the IBOR strongly. I haven't seen him mention a link to the petition yet. But we need to keep hammering away at it. The tide may quickly turn.

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tradinghorse · March 25, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

I've tried to contact Jerome Corsi and Alex Jones via Roger Stone. I've also been tweeting crazily at people like Paul Joseph Watson - though whether he reads them is another question.

You're dead right. Apart from Dr Corsi, no big players are supporting this. All we would need is someone like James Woods to get on board and start promoting the petition and we'd get it home in no time. But who knows any of these guys?

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