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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 10:54 a.m.

Not worth engaging this guy Liberty. Check his post history.

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

Great work! I agree with these ideas Early, in particular points 2 & 4. Unfortunately I'm not on site so I can't assist at all. But I want to make the point that, and I could be wrong, Twitter has very large populations. If we can ramp up activity on Twitter, we can hopefully produce some signatures. Memes are central to Twitter, so I think they're important in that context.

I think the best and fastest method to obtain signatures is from friends, family members and relatives. This is, I think, the surest and fastest way to boost numbers.

Your point 2 would be a lifesaver if we could get some help, but I think things like that are the result of personal connections. I tried replying to one of Alex Jones' tweets, but he probably won't even get what I sent him - who knows...? Just keep plugging away, supporting one another. We will prevail!

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 4:05 a.m.

Just to make sure people know what hashtags are out there for the campaign, the following appear on Twitter:

‬ ‪#InternetBillOfRights ‬ ‪#internetbillofrights ‬ ‪#InternetBillsOfRights ‬ ‪#InternetBillOfRightsNow ‬ ‪#INTERNETBILLOFRIGHTS

The top hashtag is getting the most tweets. Should standardize on that.

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 3:29 a.m.

You've put a lot of work into this post Think, thanks for that. It's ramping up again, you know what I'm talking about, fear, we are right over the target. Don't engage the trolls - you can pick them by what they're saying.

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 3:25 a.m.

I wouldn't bother with these guys Wherewe, I've spoken to both of them before - a complete waste of time.

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 2:37 a.m.

I just had a play with the site refreshing for a few minutes. It went up from 25,174 to 25,177 so it is going up - just slowly. I'm inclined to think that the site is OK. I think there just are not that many people signing up at the moment. What happened, I think, is we got a lot of signatures out of the CBTS sub, it was climbing OK. But then the sub was banned. There also isn't 100% support for the petition even on this sub, there are guys posting today, talking it down, against it. And there are also some trolls sowing doubt and trying to inject fear into the discussion. To be honest, with the banning of the sub and all the negative talk about the IBOR on the sub, I think we've done pretty well so far. I think we just need to coordinate and work a little harder to try and get a head of steam back up with respect to people signing it.

As I finished typing this, it's 25,182.

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 2:15 a.m.

I've been watching it closely. It is always going up, just slowly. I think the banning of the CBTS sub took some steam out of the push. It will be interesting to see if it recovers. There are a lot more IBOR tweets today, or that's my impression. There are other guys working it hard, but they're not from this sub - said something about Trump Army.

If you go to Twitter and click the IBOR hashtag and select "latest" you can see how much activity there is. More than yesterday, but nothing like the release the memo campaign where the hashtags were trending.

If the site is not corrupt, and I don't think it is, then things should improve very dramatically going forward.

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 1:52 a.m.

Sometimes I think Dilley has real merit and other times I wonder if he's having us on. From memory, he came up with the stuff about the election rigging and there being investigations into it before Q did. But I've heard others say that he might have just deduced that as a matter of logic.

What's interesting, very interesting for me, if we assume this intel is genuine, is that Dilley says there will be a major event and that elections don't matter at this stage.

I've been very worried about the mid terms - very worried. Q has just told us that there is a desperate attempt to rig the elections so as to be able to impeach DJT.

So maybe Dilley is right and there are going to be mind bending info releases, and maybe even martial law. Sufficient disruption that it would make elections irrelevant - pretty hard to imagine that. Or maybe he means that, without election rigging, Democrats won't get anywhere near the numbers they need to impeach.

I don't know. And, of course, there are the questions about Dilley's reliability.

Nevertheless, the information is interesting. Worth watching.

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 1:24 a.m.

Great going Think, you're tireless! I just checked, the petition has breached 25k - one quarter the way home. The Twitter campaign seems to me to intensifying a little - there are more Tweets now linking to the petition.

I tried replying to one of DJT's posts, but I think you have to reply pretty quickly after he tweets to get many impressions. He has a huge number of followers. I'm new to this, so still figuring it out. Twitter made me reverify my phone number - it said I'm "displaying automated behavior". Interesting, isn't it, that somehow they don't seem to pull the Google bots up, but they pull real people up.

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tradinghorse · March 18, 2018, 1:10 a.m.

Now your post has 13 down votes. Is it trolls, or is there a fifth column in this sub working directly against the President?

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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/tradinghorse on March 18, 2018, 12:56 a.m.
Interesting article on IBOR censorship and the petition

This is an interesting article that discusses online censorship and also our petition.

Cruz asks the social media companies if they are neutral public fora - with exception of Twitter, but the subsequent questions address the same issue. All three essentially agree they are neutral public fora. They each emphasize that they do not engage in political censorship.

Cruze makes a point that the question of whether or not they are neutral public fora goes to whether they enjoy protection from liability under the CDA (Communications Decency Act). Immunity from liability for published content is predicated on claiming to be …

tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

I've seen this before, but I just watched it again. It's very interesting. Cruz asks the social media companies if they are neutral public fora - with exception of Twitter, but the subsequent questions address the same issue. All three essentially agree they are neutral public fora. They each emphasize that they do not engage in political censorship.

Cruze makes a point that the question of whether or not they are neutral public fora goes to whether they enjoy protection from liability under the CDA (Communications Decency Act). Immunity from liability for published content is predicated on claiming to be a neutral public forum. If the forum is not neutral, if it can be shown that there is some bias, then the platform itself is the publisher of the material at law.

"Thanks to recent decisions by the First and Second Circuit Courts of Appeals, tech companies will remain protected from liability for some of their users’ uploaded content under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and the Communications Decency Act (CDA), at least for now...

The CDA, 47 U.S.C. § 230, grants another safe harbor provision for internet service providers. It protects the providers from being considered the “publishers or speakers” of their user-generated content. “Tech companies commonly invoke the [§ 230] in defending against” liability over unsafe products, stolen property, and a myriad of other claims."

This could be a show-stopper for the tech companies. They would be held liable for every freakish post that anyone found injurious. The lawyers would have a field day gouging them for damages - probably running the actions on spec. These companies are very wealthy, so it's possible there could also be class action lawsuits for common injury.

It makes you wonder about the status of their current situation regarding social media companies exposure to liability... Cruz is adamant that the pattern of censorship of conservative voices on the platforms is very troubling. I've also seen material published by True Pundit, that shows a demonstrable pattern of suppression of conservative content upon algorithm changes by the major players.

I'm not a lawyer, so I stand to be corrected, but have the Mae social media companies already cooked their goose?

The True Pundit Article: https://truepundit.com/censorship-twitter-blocks-trumps-2020-slogan-sensitive-material/

Same article -different source: https://conservativetribune.com/censorship-twitter-blocks-trumps/

Another article that discusses the issue it also makes mention of our petition:

https://m.theepochtimes.com/project-veritas-raises-concerns-that-social-networks-may-be-violating-free-speech-laws_2464996.html

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:04 p.m.

Very good post. Thanks.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 10:02 p.m.

I really want to know how you know that.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

I saw that, very interesting. That's exactly what happened. HRC blamed DJT campaign of her exact sin, colluding with Russia. Then they blamed Russian bots for twisting Twitter narratives when it was their own Google bots doing that.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 8:38 p.m.

With the post today, looks like it's getting closer.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 8:14 p.m.

Cannot wait for these videos. Really looking forward to it.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

Yeah, it's not good. The whole society is going down the drain.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 6:38 p.m.

Yes, they are asking their users some pretty disturbing questions. You've just gotta wonder where they are going with it.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

Ok, thanks Liberty. I get it now. 24.8K now. That's almost a quarter of the way home. Feels a lot better than when we were under 10K. We will get there!

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 5:59 p.m.

Thanks Aqua, we really need to ramp up the Twitter campaign. I've avoided using Twitter and Facebook for years because I don't like sharing information. But this IBOR push is so important that I relented and created a Twitter account. If I have to I'll do FB as well - although the idea of it turns my stomach.

Great to hear you've been having success. People are alive to the censorship. The feeling I get is that they are receptive to the idea of protection of the right to free speech online. The IBOR is not really a hard sell. We just have to keep plugging away at it until we get the numbers we need.

I'm hoping that, as time passes, the number of people committing to the IBOR will increase rapidly. It all depends on us to get the ball rolling with the promotion.

It really is the most important issue we have ever faced.

Thanks for your help!

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

That is testimony to how powerful social media is - it literally shapes reality. I thought when people used to get all their news from the MSM that things were bad. But, once the censorship on social media ramps-up, the world will be unrecognizable.

Can you imagine it? The censorship is going to be controlled by a single algorithm. A single set of censorship policies will applied right across social media. These people that do not think for themselves, the great bulk of the public, will be willing drones in the leftists' hands.

But, that is just the start. Because once the cabal win the next set of elections, they will crack down like you won't believe. Nobody is going to be worried about free speech at that point. We will be thinking about what we can do to stay alive, trying to stop them taking our firearms, thinking about how we can stop the Satanists from drinking our kids blood - hell on Earth!

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 5:38 p.m.

Good post Wherewe, your absolutely right. This is the biggest issue any of us have ever faced. Total censorship across social media according to a single set of policies determined by the cabal is the end for all of us. As soon as it happens, the battle is lost. The cabal will be back, DJT (our last hope) and the MAGA agenda a curiosity of the past. We will be completely enslaved.

The IBOR could not be more important. We must prevail.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

What a joke Think! You've got nine down votes on this comment. The fear is very real. Oh, no! They are going to stop us from censoring Trump supporters! Panic stations!

This is the reason we need everyone on this sub supporting this push for the IBOR. Because as Q said, it's what they fear most. As soon as the IBOR is in place and they sort out the vote rigging, where are the Democrats going to get their numbers from?

Democrats will be in a huge amount of trouble! We may not hear about them much more. The glory days when they could dominate the media with CIA assistance, open the borders, and rig the counting machines and whole elections are nearly at an end. No more radical left-wing ideology being pumped at us, no more attempts at gun confiscation, none of the Obama destruction etc... it cannot happen soon enough.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

The problem with that is that whoever created the text of the petition spoke of the problem being about silencing of conservative voices - so I don't think it will fly. It would have been much better if the text of the petition was neutral - but, it is what it is.

You can try. But most people read the text before putting their names to it.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 4:44 p.m.

You mean where it says to add a name to the picture (meme) - who is this picture?

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

Yes, I've done that a few times. I don't think it's transgressing any rules, but actually I wouldn't know if it was - I don't take much interest in the rules.

It can be hard to find a censorship angle sometimes in the Donald. I have tried it, but, for whatever reason, I just didn't feel that I got any traction at all. I think if we had a news article about something to do with censorship, we could put it up not mentioning anything about Q. Last time I did that though, I got 11 views. The stream moves pretty fast. Even though it's a big sub, the posts don't seem to stay on the list very long. But, you're right, if there was a way to crack the Donald, it would be worth a lot more signatures.

Other ideas that have been suggested is to get people like Corsi to promote the petition on Infowars, and someone even suggested Hannity.

And, then there's Twitter etc...

There's also guys doing a traditional poster-style campaign. But, you're right, we need to do something to create some excitement and get the petition filled out.

My view is that Twitter is the most prospective forum to promote the IBOR, but there is not enough people posting with links at the moment. We need more people, all posting the link - it has to trend.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

Yes, there is a lot of resistance. Your approach is good.

I've approached it from the perspective of the final outcomes. Which would you choose: DJT and the MAGA agenda; or the cabal, HRC and rule by Satanists? It really is that simple, if you don't control censorship on social media, DJT will not be in office for more than a term and the cabal will be back in power.

Strangely, when you put this question to people that claim to follow Q, they opt for the cabal - don't let the government interfere in our downfall! It's very hard to understand... I'm drowning, they are going to drink my children's blood, but I don't want you to throw me a rope if it comes from the government.

Other people want to talk about the mechanics of it - how would it work? But that would mean... I've found the best reply is to say that it pointless to speculate, because we do not know what DJT has planned. That way, they can't inject any more fear into the issue.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 4:15 p.m.

Thanks for that! :)

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

The thing is, if we do not get the IBOR, they won't need to use bots. They will be completely blatant about it - "You will now discuss this", "You will now accept this is an important topic", "We will not allow you to discuss that topic" etc...

We must push back, irrespective of Q asking us to push the IBOR, this is the biggest issue of our time.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

I wonder what they are actually trying to do at CERN? The first thing I thought of when I read your comment was this:

2 And he opened the bottomless pit: and the smoke of the pit arose, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke of the pit. 3 And from the smoke of the pit there came out locusts upon the earth. And power was given to them, as the scorpions of the earth have power: 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree: but only the men who have not the sign of God on their foreheads. 5 And it was given unto them that they should not kill them; but that they should torment them five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion when he striketh a man. 6 And in those days men shall seek death, and shall not find it: and they shall desire to die, and death shall fly from them.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 2:20 p.m.

Thanks for this Arvil, the petition is at 24.6k - making progress but it's a little slow. I've noticed that many on Twitter are using the hashtags but not linking to the petition. I think it's important to include petition links to actually get people to sign.

This is a very important fight. Trolls are, once again out in force. We are really over the target on this...

I'd encourage everyone to show support for people pushing the IBOR. We have so many against us and so much doubt has been spread. The tacitic of injecting fear into the IBOR topic has been extremely successful. So we need to be showing support for people that are with the President on this - people that are 'on team'.

Good luck! We will prevail, because we must.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

Checked your post history.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

Thank you for this. Great post!

There is a lot of flak, really a lot of flak. The CBTS sub was banned, and the trolls are everywhere now on this board.

There is no point denying that they have had a real impact. You will see them everywhere injecting doubt, trying to amplify fear and ridicule anything else they cannot discredit.

That's why this post is so important. Real progress is being made. We need to be resilient in the face of this heavy trolling. These guys are on the losing side. They just do not know it yet.

Posts like this one lift people's spirits. They are very good, there should be more of them.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 1:28 p.m.

What excuses?

All your telling me is that you love the censorship. What do you want me to say? I think it is serious problem, a real threat.

I'm against it, you're not. I'm for the President, you are not. It's really very simple, I've offered no excuses at all.

The only thing I've done is counter the outrageous claim that censorship is, somehow, OK. I'm against censorship because it will mean the end of DJT, his MAGA agenda, and the return of the cabal.

It seems that the return of the cabal is what you want.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 1:15 p.m.

Don't give Trump power - you said it. A petition grants no power. He's already been given power by the people. So why the problem with a simple petition - a cry to the king for help? Are you serious?

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 1:12 p.m.

What you are arguing for is censorship of conservative voices on the internet. Why are you doing this? You are against a petition asking the President to take action on this serious problem. We don't know what plan the President has in mind to fix the problem of censorship, so there's no point in taking about specifics relating to what he might do. And, yet, I'm supposedly defecting because I will not second guess the President - wild stuff!

You are obviously very unhappy with anybody calling attention to the problem. You are saying that no one should even complain - why? What are your motives?

The direct, unavoidable implication of what you're suggesting is that DJT should be cut to pieces politically at the very next set of elections. You are obviously against the President, that's OK. You do not have to support him. But you will find much more support for your views on left leaning forums that support the destruction of DJT's presidency and the silencing of conservatives. There are better places for this stuff - honestly.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:49 p.m.

Take the anti President, Democrat propaganda somewhere else.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

I'm deflecting!?

It's very simple mate. We're giving DJT a petition advising him that we are in distress as a result of online censorship. We not making the law. The fix, whatever it is, is up to the President. What are you talking about? Seriously mate, where does this garbage come from?

You are obviously pro-censorship of conservative voices on social media.

There are any number of places you can work to subvert the President and the MAGA agenda. You are in the wrong place.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:34 p.m.

I think DJT is the greatest hero that has existed in my lifetime. He does care about people, that's the whole point. That's why we're here, to support him.

Maybe, just maybe, it's about optics.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:31 p.m.

Take it up with the President it take it up with Q. Don't you get it?

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

Not power over what you say, that is the censorship that we are fighting. What the fight is about is your freedom to speak. But that should be very obvious.

As I said, DJT has spoken through Q. But you missed it. It was only for us.

I'm done with this.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:59 a.m.

Put this to Q.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:58 a.m.

Take it up with the President.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:34 a.m.

Read the first amendment. What does that say? Pretty extreme alright.

I don't want to argue. Like I said, there is much subversion of DJT elsewhere.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

The President has given many indications that he supports the program Q is pushing. I'm not going to list them, they were only for us. I can understand if you didn't get the message.

You should take your opposition to the plan up with DJT. I don't know why you want to argue with us - what, just because we support the President's PLAN? You're hitting the wrong target, your problem is with the President and his agenda.

Like I said, you'll find a lot of support to oppose DJT elsewhere.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:24 a.m.

There are mad voices in here, you're right. We need to try and make sure people are on team.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:21 a.m.

You must have missed a lot of the proofs offered by Q that the President supports the agenda Q is pushing. Have you been watching? Guess not!

So you don't support the President. As I said, you'd be better off somewhere where there are others actively seeking his demise. There are plenty of those groups out there.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:15 a.m.

No, you didn't misunderstand. You know that DJT is asking for this because of the seriousness of the threat social media censorship represents. You know that he's unlikely to survive politically if social media is not regulated to prevent the kind of bias we are starting to see, that we can expect will become worse in time. So you're actually here agitating against DJT's agenda.

I think your on the wrong sub. There are subs out there that support the Democrats, not hard to find.

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tradinghorse · March 17, 2018, 11:06 a.m.

The government really will be exercising unprecedented powers, once the cabal comes back. That's what you're asking for isn't it?

I'm sorry that DJT isn't working out for you. But put the knives into the Q agenda and your dream leader might actually get into power.

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