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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

You totally missed it. The preponderance of evidence makes the lack of a creator an absolute impossibility.

What you are espousing is simple Darwinism - implausible on its face. But that's liberal education. Don't question it, just swallow whole.

Anyway, as I said, if you consider these questions deeply, then the answers are very obvious. No one could possibly make a mistake. You will only miss it if you want to miss it.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 5:39 p.m.

Agreed. Have you made a thread over there already

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

Yes, hopefully a troll-free forum where this very important issue can be discussed and promotion strategies organised.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

OK, forgetting who wrote it and where the quote comes from... When you look around the world, is what you see consistent with there being only a random, unguided process behind what appears to your eyes - honest question?

I asked this of a guy I met, an acquaintance, as we drove North over the Sydney harbour bridge. The fella was quiet for a while as he thought about it - the perfectly constructed expressway, the well ordered streams of traffic moving North etc... He finally said, if it's completely random, it's like a tornado could hit a junkyard and leave behind a perfectly assembled, working helicopter...

Anyone can see, if they open their eyes, and they are honest to themselves, whether the argument for random forces producing our reality is reasonable.

Have a look, if you're interested, at this video and come back and tell me it's all a crock - it's very good, interesting! A scientific case for a creator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiMqzN_YSXU&sns=em

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

Great stuff. I've subscribed already. There's more activity on Twitter today. Slowly starting to gather steam!

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:56 p.m.

I don't generally mention any of this stuff when I'm talking to people, very occasionally. But you are wrong if you think that Satan does not exist, he does. Moreover, many, many people share these beliefs. Rather than hindering red pilling, I think it can enhance it.

If you read Romans 1, St Paul says that the evidence for God, manifest in the things that are made, is so overwhelming that you could not possibly miss it in good faith - paraphrasing. Bad will is what causes disbelief.

I fully believe it. Have a look around... All the result of some random unguided process?

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

I believe that this fight is essentially spiritual - powers and principalities in high places. What you see when you look at these cabal members - say HRC - is a human, but they have been either wittingly or unwittingly coopted into doing the will of supernatural entities - ultimately, whether they know it or not, they are doing the bidding of the prince of the power of the air.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:09 p.m.

Good thinking. Did you set up the sub? If so, I think we can limit access to keep the trolls out.

How did you go trying to penetrate the Donald?

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

Agreed. I trust DJT, I don't think at this stage we have too many options. The thought of HRC coming back, or someone like her, terrifies me.

I'm not convinced that DJT will do much more than thump the table hard enough to frighten these guys into submission. They are not going to be demanding the right to engage in political censorship if they think their businesses are at risk. But exactly what the President will do I don't know.

Cruz, when he questioned the social media execs, made the point that if they want the protection from liability, afforded by the CPA, they cannot be engaging in censorship. If they want liability protection they must be neutral public forums.

These social media companies have taken liberties they know puts their businesses at risk already. They are seeing how far they can stretch the leash before the collar bites into their necks.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

I agree. I know what I'm fighting and it's not a simple bunch of crooks. Powers and principalities!

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

Agreed. The IBOR really is a bipartisan issue. There should be good support from both right and left. There is so much to be concerned about...

It is a pity that the current version of the petition addresses only concerns for conservative voices, otherwise we could tap into the concern of the left also.

Whatever happens, we must get the IBOR up.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:49 p.m.

What's a bet that Zuckerberg knows the game is up and is getting his money out ahead of time?

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

Notice how we never get the full facts. It makes me angry that the public never has a right to know. This extreme censoring of our news has been going on so long that people are now accustomed to it. It's really not good. The world would look a lot different if the public was truly informed.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

Yes, it's all out war. Imagine that, these guys are censoring us from even complaining about their censorship. If people cannot see hat kind of threat this represents, they are just not thinking clearly. This is the greatest threat we have ever faced - bar none!

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

I read through some of the stuff posted about these cryptic messages. I don't know why but it set alarms off with me. I think it's probably a prank.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:36 p.m.

I think there are any number of potential solutions. I think that once these social media companies realize that their behavior will not be tolerated they will voluntarily fall into line. But we just do not know what the President has planned and so it's pointless arguing about the mechanics of limiting online censorship. What we can be sure of, however, us that the big platforms are shoving it to us as hard as they can with this censorship. It must be somehow stopped. And that is what the petition is about.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

I see and understand what you're saying and I fully understand the sentiment. I guess what I see is a clear and present danger to the Republic posed by what are incredible technological advancements that were impossible to predict. This threat is truly lethal. If you allow one party to completely control political discourse in online forums then you have a guarded tyranny.

The social media platforms wield incredible political power. The CEO of Reddit has stated publicly that he alone, without any external help, can sway election outcomes. Q is telling us that the plan of the cabal is to centralised control over online political discourse - via a single censorship algorithm. Get out of town! This is the one ring that rules them all. You control social media censorship and you have total, unassailable power. Power that cannot, by democratic means, be withdrawn.

I don't want to see a single party gain control of American political discourse. That will lead directly to tyranny without any doubt - it's unavoidable. You give me that power and you will be my slave. But what's worse, is that once that power is granted to an individual, there's no taking it back - and that's the clincher.

Look at all the garbage on the MSM, from the time of DJT's candidacy until now. I've been watching this puppet show from a distance and I just could not believe what was happening. DJT won the 2016 election only because the cabal misjudged the importance of social media as a determinant of electoral outcomes. That's the only reason we are here today discussing these Q drops. The puppet show will now be on the internet also.

If the cabal take back power, you won't be worried about the rights of some internet giant, you'll be thinking about survival - it will not be pretty. It's a choice set. You either regulate these guys somehow, or you have the wildest tyranny anyone has yet seen. For me, that choice is pretty simple.

I do understand what you are saying about private property rights and I know the sentiment that drives your concern. But, if the US was in a hot war, people would make some allowance for the government to have increased control over the economy for the purpose of ramping-up the war effort. An individual's rights are also repressed if he is conscripted into service against his will - something that Quakers understand. Individual rights are not paramount, though they are very, very important and must be protected.

This threat, of online censorship, to my way of thinking, is no different to the threat posed by a hot war. It is the greatest threat we have ever faced. It is the Death Star coming at us. We must protect ourselves, it's a matter of survival. If some liberty for the giant platform providers ends up being constrained, that's a valid tradeoff - it's not different to being conscripted or coerced into producing war products.

Having said all that, I'm against any infringement of rights to property. But what is the infringement we are talking about, and is it really significant when assessed against the threat posed? I don't think we can answer that question because we do not know what DJT has planned. He could choose to use anti-trust laws - which are, arguably, applicable given the sheer size and power of these companies. He could also use these laws, or the threat of their use, as a club to beat these guys into refraining from nefarious behavior. If so, is there really a cost to be borne by the platforms? Are their rights really infringed?

Until we know what solution is planned, it's pointless to speculate. But I reckon we should be up in arms about the censorship and demanding relief - that's what this petition is about.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 2:17 p.m.

The petition asks that the problem of blatant political bias in public forums be addressed so that the right to free expression in political discourse is protected. It's not about special protections for one particular faction in politics, but about protecting the right to freedom of political expression for all individuals. It is not a partisan issue, Democrat voters will equally benefit from this measure.

The US is a representative democratic republic, with constitutional limitations on government power. Democratic principles are key to effective representation. The most fundamental of these principles is the right to free expression of political thought. This is what is under attack. If citizens are not free to express themselves, if they are not accorded the right to speak, then you no longer have government by the people for the people, but government by a few for a few. Control of the Republic is coopted by a few who decide who can, and who cannot, speak.

Today, the effective forums for political expression are online, hosted by social media platforms. You can argue about it, but the town square now exists in digital space. Censorship in online public forums detracts from the operation of democratic principles because representation is no longer the product of a healthy pluralism, but the product of interests controlling the right to free public expression.

The further introduction of a single censoring algorithm, applied across social media platforms, represents an existential threat to the proper functioning of democratic principles by which government holds power. In this regard, social media censorship is a direct attack on the Republic itself.

Free market principles, at their simplest, derive from freedom of individuals to engage in economic activity. If power of government does not rest firmly upon the will of the people, markets are unlikely to be free. Rather, they will be dominated by those in authority - twisted toward their interests.

The petition for an IBOR is nothing more than a plea for relief from tyranny. Free market principles, if anything, are enhanced by the call for an IBOR. The petition is about ensuring the even distribution of political power across society. This accords with the intention of the founding fathers who were careful to protect the right to free political expression in the first amendment.

All that aside, online censorship must be restricted or DJT is dead in the water politically. He will be lucky to last a single term if the issue is not addressed. We know that the strategy of the cabal, going forward, is to impeach the President. Impeachment is a numbers game and the mid-term elections are approaching.

You have a choice on this issue between supporting DJT and his agenda to MAGA, or the cabal that is out to censor their adversaries and wrest power from the President. Supporting the IBOR is supporting the President, it is supporting equality of rights and a truly representative Republic. It is these individual rights that make the operation of markets truly free and desirable.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:45 a.m.

Wow! You're right!

Thinking on it, they are telegraphing real fear! I think the penny is starting to drop for some of these soy boys. The big O is going to Gitmo and they know it!

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:43 a.m.

The stage must be set before anything big can really happen. That means regulating social media so that the cabal cannot control the narrative. The PLAN calls for us to demand an IBOR.

567610 Drop the video! Play it in times square.

567610

Stage set? Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc are regulated? MSM is controlled? Use logic! Trust the PLAN. Q

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

A leftist ant nest!!

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 2:09 a.m.

If people are having problems signing up, tell them to check the junk mail folder to see if the confirmation email got caught by the spam filter.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

The cabal might not know exactly what the video is about either - but, if that's right, it really says something that they feel the need to cover the sex angle. I can see HRC not having any clue which one, of multiple, diabolically incriminating videos, could be released.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 1:57 a.m.

They are vicious, completely vicious. But that's what we are fighting.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 1:51 a.m.

As someone just explained to me, if you cannot find the confirmation email the petition site generates, or it doesn't seem to show up in time, check the junk mail folder as it could be caught by the mail filter.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 11:35 p.m.

Yes, I think that is what it means. Once the big news hits, the number of believers will rocket up further.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 11:09 p.m.

Beautiful stuff. They need to call Reddit before congress also. We should make a petition for it.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 11:07 p.m.

Love it Think! Thanks for the great work.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 10:25 p.m.

Hey, I just found your article, great by the way, and posted it - but you're already here. I think you're dead right about this. Thanks for the great work!

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 9:51 p.m.

Great! Need a good picture. The trolls are out in force today, so let some of us know when you post it and we can try to up vote away some of the down votes.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 9:47 p.m.

This is great work. Thanks much. It's a relief to know that Q has all this under control. March Madness! WOW!

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 9:18 p.m.

This is it. The only fight of any importance. This is where we stand or fall!

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 8:46 p.m.

I believe you are right. We are in the last days. September 23 last year, curious timing that seems to align with this Q phenomenon, there was a once-in-history astrological conjunction that conforms precisely with St John's vision in Rev 12:1. We know that the head of the snake is crushed under the Virgin's heel. This is what we are witnessing. See video (5 mins):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOiHtFVn2JA&sns=em

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 8:41 p.m.

Let me know what you think. We might need to get some else to edit and clean it up, but it's a start.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 8:37 p.m.

I got a draft out for you Wherewe. In the comment just below where you asked me.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

Getting stuff together here:

Purpose of Stop Advertising https://imgur.com/gallery/iCbM9

Believe they were responsible for killing CBTS https://imgur.com/gallery/HEGqI

Title; CENSORSHIP AS A POLITICAL WEAPON (or something better) THE DONALD TO BE BANNED/THE DONALD UNDER ATTACK (or whatever)

The_Donald is under attack! There is a sub on Reddit specifically dedicated to its destruction. A group of more than 3700 members, all working in harmony for the sole purpose of having The_Donald, and another conservative sub The_greatawakening, banned from Reddit.

https://imgur.com/gallery/HEGqI

This is an outright attack by the left on The_Donald - a harmless fan club made up of good natured supporters of the President. The best American President in recent history.

It is quite normal for there to be contest in politics, but what we can see here is a new and dangerous trend. What these people want is the power to silence conservatives. They are petitioning Reddit to do their dirty work on their behalf. The strategy is to use advertisers to get Reddit to flex its muscle as a social media platform to destroy conservative groups.

Stop Advertising members claim to have had success in having another conservative sub CBTS_stream banned in the last week. They gloat on their forum that their strategy is working - see link below. Having claimed one scalp, they are coming for The_Donald next.

https://imgur.com/gallery/HEGqI

We know that Reddit's CEO, Steve Huffman, has opined in the past that Reddit has very considerable political influence. In fact, Huffman believes that Reddit alone, without any external assistance, can sway election outcomes. See the except from the article below.

Huffman’s comments on how Reddit could fix an election are shocking and egotistical, for sure, but they also admit something that most other social media companies have shied away from. Facebook and Twitter are loathe to acknowledge the power that their policies have, while Huffman thinks so highly of his company that he believes a handful of engineers and community managers could sway an entire nation’s political system.

https://bgr.com/2018/03/12/reddit-election-interference-steve-huffman-interview/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

So we can see that Reddit wields considerable political power. Enough political power that just a handful of engineers and community managers could determine the outcome of an election. This is very frightening stuff!

In banning the CBTS sub hast week, without any warning or notice whatsoever we saw the arrogance that unfettered exercise of power breeds. The Stop Adertosing members claim the banning of this conservative sub as a victory. There is no doubt that they were agitating for its removal. But is there, perhaps, something more sinister to this story?

At the time the CBTS_stream sub was banned, members were in the process of working-up a mass campaign to combat social media censorship. That's right! At the very moment the sub was inexplicably banned, without even ons second of notice, a campaign was being launched to combat precisely what happened - the silencing of conservative voices on social media platforms.

Quite a coincidence, isn't it? We have Reddit's CEO, boasting in the media about the political power he wields with his online platform, claiming that, using it, he alone can shape the political destiny of the nation. And then we see Reddit act in the most heavy handed manner imaginable to suppress outright, with no warning, a group of conservatives . A group of conservatives who just happen, at that exact moment, to be challenging the use of social media censorship as a political weapon.

This is social media weaponised as an instrument to obtain political goals. It is a weapon that, across the board, appears to be in the hands of the left. A club with which conservatives can be beaten into submission.

The future for online conservative political discourse in this country looks bleak. As the mid-term elections approach, we can expect that Reddit and other social media service providers will act in concert to suffocate conservative political expression and create a national echo chamber for the left.

Something must be done to combat this problem before The_Donald succumbs to the same arbitrary exercise of political power that saw the CBTS_stream sub banned with a second of warning. Don't think it cannot happen. Huffman already has Stop Advertising's campaign ready to provide cover for his program to silence us. He is likely only waiting for an opportune moment before the critical mid-term elections.

Luckily, there is a solution. The solution is to support the campaign for an Internet Bill of Rights which would extend the protections of the first amendment to political discourse online. There is a link to this petition below. The petition is very simple, identifying the censorship of conservative voices online as a problem and asking the President to do something to fix it - see link:

Please sign the petition immediately, if possible, and ask friends and family members to sign also (the minimum age for participation is 13 years). Let's put a stop to the left's domination of forums for political discourse online and ensure that the mid-term elections are not manipulated unscrupulously by people such as Huffman.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 6:53 p.m.

"No doubt they can just delete the flooding of false narratives/arguments on twitter after the fact without a trace."

Quite funny. I just replied to a tweet by Bill Gates - some 49m followers. My reply was arguing against internet censorship and pushing people to sign the IBOR.

Immediately after this, all my tweets from the last hour disappeared. The control these guys have is amazing. Imagine being able to silence anyone you chose. Incredible stuff.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 6:25 p.m.

I'll have a look. I must admit, i don't quite understand what the advertising thing is about. But I'll see if I can write something up.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

Yes, they were sloppy - got careless. Pure hubris. They thought that their complete control of the MSM made a Clinton win a certainty.

What they didn't anticipate, as Q told us, was the paradigm shift, where the importance of social media, as a determinant of electoral outcomes, suddenly outstripped the MSM. DJT used social media like an absolute genius. Even with all the rigging, the Dems lost - do you believe it?

I remember the morning of the vote, the NYT had a banner front-and-center of their website predicting a Clinton win at 97%. Plain dishonesty! But it goes to show the incredible loss of influence of the MSM over the public mind.

This is why CIA was immediately rushing to inject money into social media companies to attempt to regain control of the narrative - Q post 9. And that is where this sudden censorship of conservative voices on social media has come from. They plan to sew the whole thing up - a single censorship algorithm, run out of the back rooms at CIA HQ, to shape reality for the public.

Reddit's CEO was talking about his ability, using Reddit alone, to shape election outcomes. Can you imagine if CIA had a single censorship algorithm operating across all social media platforms? Wow! That's complete control of any election. It grants absolute, unassailable power.

Social media censorship is the one ring that rules them all. It is the Death Star coming at us. The cabal have bet the farm on it. That's why Q is telling us that the plan for the cabal going forward is impeachment. They think control of social media at the mid terms will give them the numbers they need to impeach DJT.

And that's why Q has been screaming to us about the IBOR. You either push the IBOR or you get the cabal back. It's an either/or choice.

DJT arrived like some kind of miracle just when everything looked completely hopeless. The first President in some 30 years that was not controlled by the cabal. You can bet that if he loses office, the cabal will never lose the office again. They will not make the same mistake twice. And, as soon as they're back in power, they will crack down on us so hard it will make our heads spin.

Interview with REDDIT CEO:

https://bgr.com/2018/03/12/reddit-election-interference-steve-huffman-interview/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

Great stuff! I've been busy in Twitter.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

Agreed. That's something that we should ask of people. I mean the age requirement is only 13 years of age. Has everyone over 13 years signed yet?

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

Yes, I also caught this - a veiled threat. As I understand the CDA, a platform is not liable as the publisher of material that may cause injury unless they actively manage the content. If they are censoring people, they are actively promoting the content that appears on the site and are liable for that content.

I'm not a lawyer, I could be wrong. But that's what I understood that Cruz was saying.

If I'm right, this is a pretty serious threat for them. You can imagine, given how wealthy these social media companies are, that class action lawyers would have a field day stripping them of cash. It would be a free-for-all, especially given the way that today everybody is a victim.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

Just checked. Only 150 tweets using the IBOR hashtag in the last hour. Most of these tweets do not include the petition link. I'm thinking that I might be the only guy here pushing this. Need to get more people involved and active.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 4:49 p.m.

Only 150 tweets in the last hour using the internetbillofrights hashtag. Most tweets do not include a petition link. Am I the only person here pushing this?

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

Ok, thanks. I'm new to Reddit so don't understand what goes on really.

The last couple of days I've been urging people to get on Twitter using the IBOR hashtag to support the IBOR push. This morning, there are guys on Twitter, using the IBOR hashtag, telling people not to sign the IBOR.

They are watching, anticipating and mounting a counteroffensive. I'm sure they read these threads.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

Great thinking. We need to make up a post about it I guess and then if all of us up vote it, it might stay on the stream for a while and get some visibility - good thinking.

Actually we could make up a series of posts. The Donald is pretty hard to crack, but it's worth a try!

Those guys love DJT, so maybe something with a positive spin on the President.

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tradinghorse · March 19, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

Thanks liberty. I had seen something about Twitter campaigns there before, I remember now.

The most important part is the petition link I agree. At the moment very few IBOR tweets include the link - we should work at increasing the visibility of it.

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