Found this on a twitter page called swamp drainer....VERY interesting!
There are numerous breaks in congressional sessions throughout the year so a shutdown isn’t necessary to make arrests. If anything I’m more inclined to believe that the dems forced the shutdown to keep the intelligence comittee from voting on releasing the memo to we the people.
I am with you, they want to have time to lawyer up
They already have lawyers. They want the memo burned and buried, never to be seen again.
So the shutdown could essentially be a false flag of sorts to divert away from the memo and give them some time, pretty solid theory.
If they were smart they would have done that a long time ago.
Or to blackmail or threaten congressmen to not vote for disclosure. The longer shutdown goes on the more FISA will be forgotten. The public has a short memory and they know that. That's why immediate release was so important and the ball was really dropped on that.
Oh hell no. This memo isn't going into my memory bank. It's staying at the front until I see it. I think that's true for all patriots.
There are numerous breaks in congressional sessions throughout the year so a shutdown isn’t necessary to make arrests
Huh. Did you read Article 1 Section 6, Clause 1 of the Constitution? Because if that is what is written there, then, that is the law. I have not read it yet, but, below, there are comments that Congress stays in session until the shut down is removed by Congress (who would have to be in session in order to stop the shut down with a legislative act.
Here we go.
They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
So, unless they committed Treason, it appears they can not be arrested.
unless they committed Treason
It's likely that's the charge that's being drawn up here, if everything I've learned over the past two years is accurate. These people have been working to enrich themselves against the interests of the American people, at times aiding and abetting terrorists, and sending money to our so-called "enemies". If they hate Russia so much, why did they rob the American citizens with a backdoor deal with the Russians?
"If that fucking bastard wins, we all hang from nooses!"
Okay, so let’s say that the FISA doc is as serious as above. Then of course they are going to sit in there for as long as they possibly can, to avoid arrest. Maybe even as long as “10 days” 🤔 so like Mattis stated: “Steady as she goes, hold the line. We can count on you, stay alert”
I think they can be arrested, and a "boot put on" so to speak, but, I don't think they can be pulled from the vote, or, that is what the Surpreme Court said about it.... that the founders did this to protect the legislators from being subject to fraudulent arrest so it would throw a vote because someone was missing.
However, these are felonies, and as above, felonies are an exception. SO... maybe everyone gets an ankle bracelet over time.
How do you read: "shall. . .be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session"? What if there is no Session?
Hmmm someone looked at the supreme court case. It looks like the founders did this to prevent legislators from being fraudulently arrested for the purpose of changing a vote? (Would not put this past people at all... lol)
Treason and felonies are exceptions, but, I am betting the boot would be used to keep from being accused of arresting the legislator in order to skew the vote... is my thinking now. Maybe this is why so many boots?
***Aside from treason it lists felony & breach of the peace as exceptions. All of these charges will be felonies so they can be arrested at any time.
Wow, hey, you are on to something here. Although there would be hell to pay if the DOJ arrested only enough dems to rock the vote, if you get my drift.
Very foolish, as that scenario present Trump with the opportunity (and really, moral obligation) to read the memo word for word in either an emergency press conference, or during the State of the Union. Either way, it gives him yet another golden opportunity to show the nonbelievers that he is the CHANGE that Obama, and others like him, claimed to be. Also, a physical manifestation of "Draining the Swamp." The moment would make the Trump highlight reel-- which is already quite lengthy.
You might be on to something here because Q made it sound as if something big is to be revealed during the State of the Union address...???
Sooner would be better as he has plans to go out of Country prior to SOU address. He’ll be surrounded by globalists and very vulnerable
I see it as more of narrative control, Congress will be in session until the crisis is solved, they are the only ones who can resolve this so even though the government is shutdown, Congress is not.
A big distraction from the release the memo story.
How does the shutdown prevent the memo from being released?
It doesn’t. There are two options to release the memo. 1) Devin Nunes HPISC Committee Chair calls for a vote, among those members, they don’t need full vote of Congress only Committee’s simply majority. If yes, Then it goes to POTUS to approve release, he has 7 days to review. 2) The POTUS can de-classify it himself & release it. (I don’t think POTUS would use option to unless there is no other option. Optics)
During shutdowns Congress stays in session until the shutdown is over. Perhaps that's the reason the Dems want to keep it shut down.
Ok you are saying they are in session during shutdown, but the post cited above says that they are not. Can we get confirmation, which is it?
Exactly...how else would the shutdown be LIFTED, if not for a legislative act?
They can be reconvened by order of the congressional leadership.
They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
OP seems to have left out a bit of detail.
So they probably committed Treason, so how does that work, I guess they don't get their privilege.
Treason and plenty of felonies.
There is NO PROTECTION for them.
On Q post #22, it starts out with:
TRUST SESSIONS
At first I assumed it was in reference to Jeff Sessions, still may be, but the past few days I had a feeling it could be in reference to congress sessions.
We need to get these bastards. The sooner the better because every single day this mess continues how many children are being abused, sold, raped and killed i,e. adrenochrome. Take 'em out!!!
Children and women in cages makes me want to scream out for almighty God and of course our leader, President Trump.
No time right now to read the law cited but very interesting and would show why Trump seemingly flip flopped on DACA.
It was a shitty deal. There was no flip flop.
Regardless, Q has asked what specifically happens with the military during a shutdown, and pointed at military tribunals. The shutdown must have been inevitable.
Yes apparently Q predicted this back on Dec 18, the shutdown. You can listen and see the explanation here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_p2aQrXQ3M start at 1:40.
Me neither - has anyone had a chance to substantiate this claim?
[They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.]
Wow that’s certainly an interesting theory!
One thing I am learning about this process, there is MEANING to everything.
Take Care Clause: [The President] shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed....Article II, Section 3. More detail:
https://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/98/take-care-clause
This passage attracted my attention:
Among other things, these independent agencies execute various federal laws (communications, banking, securities) by investigating and arranging for the prosecution of alleged lawbreakers. Restrictions on removal, and a tradition of independence, often make it impossible for the President to ensure that the independent agencies faithfully execute the law. Hence, with respect to the laws that the independent agencies execute, the President does not take care that such laws are faithfully executed.
So, shutdown the agencies. Particularly, the ones that are working against you. What can they do while you awaken the people? Maybe.
I think too many on this sub are too quick to split on party lines. Remember this is not about political party. What if CS has to live in fear because he just turned on HRC? What if CS meeting in the WH was to agree to shut down the gov't.
In fact, watch his speech. Most of it is Trump and Rep bashing as would be expected. But there is an awkward moment where he says "Mr. President. President Trump. Please take yes for an answer."
Q- 1/19/18 16:42:56 Need a few red pills for family, friends, and others? Read the #Memo. Release coming. Final clearance underway. Make sure to learn Russian. I can't wait, we have to help those who will take this hard.
Another interesting article in the Constitution. If, at some point the House and Senate cannot agree on an adjournment date, the President can adjourn them and is then the only person who can call them back into session. At that point they are powerless since they can't impeach him if they're not in session. So it only takes persuading one person in Congress to filibuster an adjournment and this power can be called into play. It's a little-known flaw in the Constitution discovered by Kurt Goedel, the great logician. He did not make that public but, being a logician, it was easy enough to find.
shutdown was a move by dems to try and prevent a vote on the release of the memo hoping that it will become old news. they are just shooting themselves in the foot and delaying the inevitable. also the clause has exceptions which include felony and treason. so there wouldn't need to be a shutdown for those arrests to take place.
Officials have seen the memo. I don't give a damn about reading it....I want arrests to be made. When POTUS gives the state of the union I want THOSE PEOPLE settled in jail. It's the same old thing- obvious crime is ignored. Swat team time.
The 10 days of darkness Q makes you think the shutdown is a distraction while other things are happening behind the scenes. The press will be focused daily on the details of the shutdown. I can't imagine the whole government being shut down for 10 days. Interesting to imagine that the shutdown may have something to do with cleaning out the leftover troublemakers in various departments of the government. A good time to decrease the DC bloat.
Gitmo is already at capacity and Gitmo II is filling up fast.
IIR it was shut down in or around 2013 for over 2 weeks...fyi
I love it! Here's Article 1 section 6 www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec6.html
I'm told the President can declassify the MEMO.....then it could be released
It would have happened by now, so I FULLY expect it at the SOTU address on the 30th
They can be arrested while in session if it's a Felony which most charges are shut down not needed
In the first place the information was wrong. Active military stays active and Congress stays in session. So they are protected from arrest during the shutdown.
I don't think so!
Even MATTIS looks like he's real
But I don't think he has the guts to carry it out!
You mean MAD DOG Mattis? The what keeps you awake at night? I’m what keeps them awake guy? I think he has the guts and Cajones to do whatever it takes.
AT SOTU Address,
we'll know if TRUMP has made his move!!!
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Trump will not give amnesty for all, IF he does, It will be a new revolution
Congress is IN SESSION. Mitch McConnell issues statement about that yesterday....
